OVERWATCH vs TF2: Is Newer Always Better? - Deadlock
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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Today it’s a battle royale between the incumbant team shooter: Team Fortress 2, who’s made a name for itself and maintained a hardcore loyal following for nearly a decade, and the new guy on the block: Overwatch, which has been EVERYBODY’S obsession this summer! Is the new guy on the block always better, or are some games classics for a reason? The fight goes down TODAY.
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Im now 100% convinced that neither of these guys have played TF2 for more than 5 minutes.
You don't wear the dragonborn helm on scout??? It's a god tier all-class dude
I feel generous max 100 hours about 3 major updates ago scratch that I give the guy that is vouching for tf2 about 30 min max because he brought up the SERVER BROWSER!
His excellency just arrived!
Agreed.
THANK YOU
"No mobility in tf2"
Valve: we nerfed the sticky jumper because it was so powerfull that could make demoman fly so fast and pass trough the skybox.
some demos really miss placing 8 stickies
Looks like someone is salty they can’t rocket jump properly to be honest
He said the TF2 cast is less mobile
@GL Dave demoknight tf2
demoknight with 4 heads is quite mobile
Really? “Nerf this” is overwatches punchline? And also, “kaboom indeed you drunken wretch” is said by the spy not the demoman
EDIT: i fixed the wretch part. thanks for pointing it out
*Wretch
THANK YOU
Ytf would demoman say that in the first place anyways...
w r e n c h
Henry Gallagher I mean Demoman is canonically pretty rich he has like 60 jobs or somethin.
“No mobility in TF2”
-Demoman sticky jumping
-Soldier rocket jumping
-Pyro’s jetpack
-Demoknight’s trimping
-Scout’s double jump
-Medic’s Overdose perk
-Pyro’s Powerjack
-Pyro flare jumping
-Pyro airblast
-Scout’s Force A’ Nature
-Rocket surfing
-Engineer’s teleporters
-Scout Bonk Atomic Soda
-Scout Sodapopper’s old hype
-Scout Sodapopper’s new hype
-Soldier’s Disciplinary Action
-Engineer’s rocket jump
-Scout’s Atomiser
-Wrangler jumping
-Damage Surfing
-Demoman’s Loose Cannon
-Medic’s Quick-Fix
-Heavy’s GRU
Also Wrangler/damage surfing
Don't forget Scout's Babyface Blaster charge and Spy's Big Earner backstab kill
Don’t forget engie short circuit jumping
can someone give me the timestamp I did not understand a thing on this video
@@Tap11283 6:22
Mattpat: quality over quantity, more maps is not always better.
Mattpat: overwatch has more classes than your measly nine.
@Robert Barry yeah man and it takes so much time to master them literally i know people with thousands of hours on certain classes. when you are given too much choice as well its hard to be satisfied with an option i don't know much about overwatch but surely if you have that many classes they are no way near in depth as tf2 classes
Ah yes the hypocrisy...
@Dion you can even change weapons and it really changes the gameplay. Tired of sniping people with sniper? give him a bow & arrow and now he is a hunter or tired bombing people with demomen give him a sword and now he is a warrior that can charge into enemies. For me its more than just 9 heros.
@Robert Barry watching meet the team would make you like TF2 more than Overwatch tho
A big sign of hypocrisy. Good note.
no mobility:
you have an American patriot flying around at mach 5 with a shovel
@UwU i don't think I'll be seeing a heavy flying at mach 5 anytime soon, but I'm not against it.
@@rooklovesmost9716 *Laughs in randomizer*
@Rafael Suprayogi he lives in merasmus' castle so he technically he isnt homeless
@Rafael Suprayogi Merasmus moved out tho
You got a knight in the air with stickies
“We wanted to keep this as neutral and unbiased as possible”
*”You failed!, Boooooooooo”*
Epic!
"You were always a disappointment"
I know it was very biased towards overwatch
"You failed, the enemy has captured our intelligence."
*clap clap* amazing my man
This aged like teleported bread
It has tumors
I did nothing but teleport bread for the last 5 days
@@StanleyyACK "WHERE?!? WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN SENDING IT?!?!"
@@dog_e8539 RAARGH
Lmao
"No mobility in TF2"
Solarlight: lol
Demoknight tf2
ua-cam.com/video/NYma6tXnQQs/v-deo.html demoknight hihg speed
soldier tf2
Every character of TF2 except Sniper : ahah
Soundamith : excuse me wtf
OW: "Heroes never die"
TF2: "That was an amazing killing spree, BY THE OTHER TEAM!"
MAGGOTS
@@aids7733 Sun Tzu said that and I’d say he knows a little more about war than YOU DO pal, ’cause he INVENTED IT.
@@SpringODc2melapela and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor!
@Duc Minh Do and from then on, if multiple animals were in a certain place, it would be called a farm!
Gentlemen, synchronize your death watches.
"But there are currently 22 characters in Overwatch with more on the way, compared to your 9." Let us just forget the hundreds of weapons for each class allowing you to mix and match to make either deadly or meme load outs (trolldier).
yeah there's literally thousands of different combinations, each of which drastically mixes up your play style.
there is approximately 5800 weapon combinations in tf2
Dude, the guy who builds sentries in Overwatch can, get this, be only effectively played in one, or possibly two situations. The guy who builds sentries in TF2 can be defensive, mobile offensive, sentry jump, use the gunslinger to be able to focus on his other buildings while not being confined to his sentries, for gods sake he has the Pompson.
@@Bareezio you forgot the funny sentry
@Creeper Freak so? there's still like 5800 weapon combos in tf2
It's not about how diverse your characters is, it's about how memorable they are.
I only know overwatch characters from porn
@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 source? (asking for a friend)
so tf2 wins?
it already won :)
@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 facts! The only reason the characters are remembered is cause of that
Can confirm this. I've played OW1 and OW2 and I still call them generic stuff like "oh yeah the ice woman what's her face" and "Magilla Gorilla".
"That there's just a sad display, boy"
"That just ain't right!"
"DAMNIT DAMNIT DAMNIT, IT JUST AIN'T RIGHT!"
cough cough* "why don't we just give up pardner"
@@Ahmadabdal_ THAT ENGINEER'S A SPY!
@@Ahmadabdal_ SPAH !!
"Overwatch have a higher skill celling"
"Tf2 have no mobility"
Me having 400 hours and still can't properly rocket jump and watching "how it feels to play soldier": hahahahaha wait What?
me having over 2000 hours and still can't trickstab properly as spy... took me months to master pyro by far the most satisfying class to play feels so good to airblast a huntsman sniper and headshot him with his own arrow. you also know you can airblast crossbows and HEAL YOUR OWN TEAMMATES. literally the best thing i've ever done in a game. that's the thing i don't see myself spending so long to master a class i've played for so long and there's still so much to do. i haven't even played soldier with rocket launcher and gun boats yet like most pros do...
I think he either got paid or it was a joke
@@Straeger my god yes, I once reflected a jarate AND the arrow at the sniper, I felt like god in that moment
@@staringgasmask I see we meet again
@@tehzhixiang9452 probably, I don't keep track of where I comment
“Overwatch players can teleport”
*Laughs in engineer*
"Overwatch can use grappling hooks" *laughs in mann power*
Torbjorn cant he level up his sentries? And build a dispenser?
@@geckoplasm7394 also laughs in community servers
@@guythatjustwanttosayhi8731 He can level up his sentries but I don't think he can make a dispenser
NOPE.EXE
"overwatch is the tf2 killer"
Tf2: Are you really in charge here?
I think "Do you know who you're talkin to here" would have been the better line
Well. OW and OW2 are both dead
"Um... I-I don't even know where to start with you. I mean, do you even know who you're talkin' to?"
@@Drebolaskan Do y- do you have any idea, any idea who I am?
They probably just downloaded tf2, played 2fort for 3 minutes and went "yep that's enough research"
And they jsut stayed in the Intel room as engi
@Duc Minh Do to defend the intelligence even tho a heavy-medic pair can charge right through
That is just what they did
ya
Agree
I heard that their research on TF2 were 2 gameplay videos from 2009 and they played Overwatch for 20 minutes. That was enough research for MatPat.
i heard that was 100% true
I remember when MatPat used to care about science, but he's been long just a showman.
Listen to the points the guy (representing tf2) made about tf2, then read the tf2 description on steam.
too true
They should really do some more damn research before they do something like this
"Medics don't get kills, therefore nobody want to play him"
*Laughs in assists and übers*
Battle medic be like
OH YEA! Isn't it weird that I played as a medic and do VERY good using him, and somehow I almost am at the top of my team's scoreboard? Isn't it strange guys??
Syringe gun medics in x10 mode: haha melting entire team in 5 seconds go brrrrrrrrrrrr
"I healed zuh man who vill kill you!"
@@glennhooker2762 laughs in crusaders crossbow and medic is most powerful class
It's official. Team Fortress 2 has outlasted Overwatch. MatPat, eat your heart out
Pump these likes up on this comment.
overwatch ran fast and died a virgin with porn addiction
Tf2 died 8 years ago overwatch and overwatch 2 are the same game overwatch outlasted tf2 already now
@@hunterculpepper1973 tf2 never dies
@@hunterculpepper1973 "Wa, My game died that I pumped hundreds of dollars into for terrible skins and didn't get refunded, Wa, my game was better, your's has been dead so long, only dino remember it, Wa."
Cry Some More!
"...that healer classes just keep dying and can't get on the scoreboard..."
*Pulls out ubersaw with malicious intent*
Also gets : 20 ast and 3 domination top 3 in leaderboard
you can get to the top of the leaderboard with only healing, there's even an achievement for it
@@presidentbruh401 I got that achievement from a friendly server and dancing on the cart
Deadass top fragged as a passive aggressive medic, since i am too violent and dont like playing medic, i went for a lot of combative plays, and it...worked. Really well.
@@lordsickomode For some reason, Medic mains are the most confident players of TF2. They would run into battle without a second thought.
“If you wanna play as the scout wearing the dovaking helmet bringing a giant fish into battle, you can do that.”
Uh yes, the Russian scunt.
Dohvhacking
Haha
The big scout
bread
"Tf2 has more modes, that includes team deathmatch"
Team....deathmatch..? Seriously? This just goes to show that neither one of these idiots has played Tf2 for more than 12 seconds.
+Gachi Player (Gachimuchi gamer HD) your right man. both sides were complete and utter idiots
pd_ maps are basically TDM maps, so...
The only TDM map is Hightower
Noteven
+Nebula _ true
Looks like TF2 won after all.
yessir
AFFIRMATIVE!
Jahwol
tf2 forever
TF2 didn't win nor lose, we're stuck in eternal limbo between both result.
Matpat forgot one thing about TF2.
We actually like the characters, they are funny and they have their own Individual Backstories and even Meet the Team videos. They have Personalities that we like and Enjoy. The characters aren't basic references to other games like Matpat said about Overwatch, The Classes of TF2 are literally Stereotypes. Such as Crazy German doctor in the Medic or Big Russian Guy with Big Gun in the Heavy, even though they are Stereotypes the way Valve made the characters is so likable.
So many jokes like Pootis or Nope.avi that made us love the characters. Channels like Winglet and Hoovytube keep the comedy and character alive with very impressive videos. That’s why Rick May’s death hurt so much because we realise that they’re real people voicing these lovable characters
I mean the heavy is dead alone has more of a story the ow
@@hackergaming6372 yes
They are stereotypes done right
@@hackergaming6372 personally I’m more of a demo Mesa person
"you can play as a russian bodybuilder"
Heavy:how could this happen?!
Heavy: "Am I a joke to you?"
the attention i need.
Are they saying heavy is fat? 🤬
PHD IN LITERATURE GOD DAMN IT
@@erdenebattayanamjil5356 No,it's worse than that
"playing medic isn't fun"
*Laughs in Uber*
Laughs in Quick-fix rocket jumping
@@magnetiteeagle2.025 I was playing soldy, and bro I had a medic in comp the other day that was running quickfix and he was so fukin good at jumping with me, I did an entire foundry rollout to 4th and he didn't disconnect once.
Wait no, medic isn't fun I forgot
I remember one time I ubered my friend pyro with phlog crits and we killed all 12 of them so fast they even began to question if uber was balanced
*Laughs in MvM shield Medic*
Laughs in 0 kills 3 dominations
matpat casually making points that can be contradicted via using at minimum, 5 braincells:
this video has aged so poorly it's like the kid who said TF2 will fall on march 15th
you have done nothing but praise overwatch for being new and do no research at all on TF2. I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard sponsored this.
I don't think Blizzard's gonna be that much of an asshole and support misinformation.
He has hardly done any research for overwatch as well, if anything he is just cashing in on the stupid arguments about tf2 and overwatch
+Fun overwatch supports porn.
yeah both sides felt a little weak a fixated heck I felt like U learned more about overwatch Gaijin Goombah videos xD
regardless looks great but I won't be paying for a game to play it, I prefer micro payment games like LoL skins
+Dinmuhamed Alimbayev actually blizzard is actively Pershing overwatch porn and having it removed
I just gonna explain all the things that wrong about this video
1. When Todd said “Kaboom indeed you drunken ranch” he made sound like the demo said that when the spy said that
2. “Team fortress add death ratios and dominating and reaping the same main objective is killing the enemy team over and over” you know the medic or a enige dispenser can heal hurt people and get points for that right?
3. When Todd said tf2 last for 9 years why didn’t decrease matpat health?
4. Tf2 has no mobility? dude the rocket jump and sticky jump exist in tf2 and also tf2 has grappling hooks in mannpower and enige can build a teleporter
5. “Overwatch players are already cosplaying as overwatch characters” tf2 has that too
6. “Tf2 has deathmatch” HA this guy hasn’t even play this game for a second
7. “Overwatch has to healers tf2 doesn’t” dude tf2 has the medic enige and heavy when he has food to give
8. “Overwatch characters are more unique” Um nah didn’t u watch the meet the team videos of tf2? They also unique in there own way
9. “There a grandmother that snipe medicine into your body” tf2 medic has a freaken crossbow
10. “Overwatch has lower player base in each match” um competitive mode exist in Tf2 and community servers
That all I think that what these 2 got wrong tell me in reply what I miss
11. Pulling the race card
12. Tf2 taunts can bring people together while overwatch is just mad beef
13. ) over watch keeps track of your eliminations making his KDR point useless
14. There are way more ways to play medic, then as any of the overwatch healers, making medic more entertaining
15. U guys are just tf2 addicts
This is a joke, right?
Have they never played either of the games?
Probably.
what did he do wrong? because its people like you that complain that these types of comments are getting deleted even though the lack of any logic means they SHOULD be deleted...
+Zack_Moneys yea, because tf2 has a death match mode...
+Zack_Moneys Well for one, they used the fact overwatch only has 6 players per team as an argument point, when competative TF2 is the same. Its either 6v6, or 9v9.
JHenry is the competitive mode even good?
"the game has achievments for killing players repeadly, so no one is going to play medic"
also tf2:has a achievment of gettin top 1 whitouth direcctly killing as a medic
Most decent medics will top the scoreboard multiple times without even trying
@@Drebolaskan fr, literally just do your job right as a medic and it's extremely likely that you'll be atleast top 3 in the match
love it when matpat has to literally rely on the race card for a game set in the 1960's he cant even look into the lore of the game let alone the game itself its just sad.
Ikr?
Its funny because me and many other non-whites prefer tf2 waaaaaaaaaay over overwatch.
@Liam Bracken yeah its just a cherry on top, you can take it out and we won't even notice, is anyone like ever yelling because there's not enough people from different races
Bread says you imposter
No commas this is the comment section not a English school
"Maybe there's a reason donkeys shouldn't be able to talk."
-Shrek
e g g
A p p l y i c e t o t h e b u r n t w o u n d
@@demoman4335 N A H B R I N G O U T T H E I C E B E R G.
Wait I hope you are talking about MatPat Being the donkey or if not, IM GONNA BURRY WHATS LEFT OF YOU IN A SOUP CAN
Mercy is an dummkopfs
Don't listen to them. Both sides made terrible and wrong points.
kill em
They always do. I wonder always wonder if they played the games in this show.
It's a shame you even have to question whether they've played the games since they claim to be avid gamers. I totally agree that neither of these two have probably never played the game.
There are still 38000 Matpat fanboys mindlessly liking the video.
But one chose the right side...
(Spoiler alert: TF2)
I like how half of MatPat's points can be applied to TF2
I'm late, but TBH most of the points here can be applied to both games. It's clear neither of them made any attempt to do even the most basic amount of research on the games.
"TF2 isn't objective based, it's killing based!"
TF2: "WHY IS THE CART NOT MOVING!?"
*screams in Spy*
@@deadnotbigsuprise9869 aaAAAAAAAAAH
This is the same video that said one of the game modes of tf2 was team death match
Ze carht is zuppohsed to move FOHRWARD!
TELEPORT THE BREAD!
I'm now 100% convinced that neither of these guys have played TF2 for more than 5 minutes."
-Muselk's comment on this video that was deleted
(my comment=what muselks comment was)
wtf matshat
They haven't bought either of the games.
Moose Tits can read peoples mind :) he knows they played less then 5 mins of TF2
huh explain what did muselk say??????????????????????/
that's muselk's comment.
"TF2 player numbers have been on the decline since august 2014"
Well look who aged well
Don't act like those player numbers aren't 90%bots
Am guessing you have a 1,000 hours in tf2 right water?
@@wurraymayel1945 3000
@@PuppygirlTrans if all lf them are bot than why tf i saw like 10 jose.gonzas in a single match
@@PuppygirlTrans theres only 1000-5000 bots lol
Watching this in retrospect is so surreal, lots of the points for overwatch dont even exist anymore lol, while tf2 has basically only lost its updates
"The characters in TF2 are all white men" listed as a mark against TF2
Imagine If someone had said; "Overwatch has more black people in it, so it's worse."
The irony is people defend statements like this on the ground that the general cultural zeitgeist is skewed towards the "Straight white man" But the fact that so many people think this isn't an example of outright, blatant, disgusting racism would indicate the exact opposite. If the cultural dialogue was "Safe" and "Biased" for/towards straight white men, it wouldn't be okay to be openly racist towards them.
Matpat? More like, SJWPat
He forgot Demoman. That Scottish pill spammer.
Oh well that's that weird little thing these people do where when they see a person who is black with people who are evil Hwhite oppressors, that person who is black doesn't count anymore because reasons.
Yes because he totally meant that in a derogatory or "racist" way.......
he said it's a negative about the game, how isn't that derogatory
Blows my mind that a bell pepper with a snickers and gourmet cake explains these two games better than these guys did
you watch doug doug
Doug Doug: in depth analysis that's easy to understand and entertaining
These guys: Here's a durian
E
fellow sub sub, we make sure this doesn't drag on
@@1nf1nity30 Come on man, dont be a troll, after you said that im gonna need a band-aid
Overwatch: Reported for saying “jdgsysmanhegsvdhfufhrvehducj”
TF2: Achievement for making someone rage quit
What's jdgsyman?
BarbeQueQ, amirite?
@@LordTerias you be right
Don’t forget the line “ I dare ya to ragequit, make us both happy”.
Theres an achievement that the game gives you if you dominate someone and he leaves
Overwatch: Has loads of classes for loads of jobs
TF2 Engineers: *I AM THE DEFENSE*
Ah yes, my favorite TF2 gamemode, team deathmatch.
Toaster Bath Water I’m the best team death match player in tf2 bro don’t mess with me
Hmmm, yes team deathmatch AKA casual mode AKA friendliess AKA tryhards AKA trollers AKA god players AKA the comp players who actually go back to casual mode
ah i see a man of culture
@@buffcat1399 pootis
@@imbored7579 Pootis POW.
Someone’s probably already said this, when he makes the point of the medic class not being able to get as many kill as other classes is really stupid because he says it himself it is A SUPPORT class the medic is not meant to go on kill ramapages he is meant to heal. And SUPPORT his team.
Medic is also the class that helps break stalemates, if you consider übercharging
And doesn't this contradict someone, like Mercy?
Youd be surprised to see how fast a blutsauger can melt a scout
@@tommytenpin And how fast a Scattergun/Soda Popper/FAN can melt a medic
Yeah the mercy class is kinda like medic they both don’t go on kill rampages(at least I don’t think) but he compares medic to the other classes when medic is not built to kill
*We wanted to keep this as neutral and unbiased as possible*
You failed miserably
Rickmix I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT... BEING A HAPPY TF2 PLAYER
*Plays the race card.*
Insert laughing Peter parkers boss meme herw
@@jamesmcevoy74 agreed
?????????\TF\2\KILL\OVERWATCH
Why did every single argument from Matpat do like 9 while Todd's did 5. They really needed to give Overwatch crit hacks for them to have a chance 💀💀💀
Nah thats mini crits
they drank crit-a-cola
maybe overwatch had like 5 medics constantly charging it with kritzkrieg LOL
@@SkinnyScoutsillies whats the mini-crit damage increase?
@@grimmsoul3096 like 30 or 35% more damage, its only noticeable with explosive class like soldier or demoman
I never played TF2 but I do play overwatch and tbh... I couldn't care less about this debate, however, I'm disappointed on one thing about the arguments. Mattpat, you seriously used the "it's all white males" argument to claim that overwatch it's better? That is just disappointing. Variety in playstyle it's a valid argument, and yes, 22 characters will have more variety than 9, but claiming that the color of the 22 characters make them better than the 9 it's just a poor strawman and a strawman I was not expecting from you.
great comment
also nearly all of the arguments were inaccurate, and they didnt even mention the fact that you can have thousands of different weapon combinations in tf2
Well,claiming that overwatch has more variaiety becouse it has more heroes,is a lie.Sure,it has more heroes but MatPat,and this god of cringe that is supposed to represent the TF2 community forgot that there are sub classes in TF2(subclasses are combinations of weapons,that when equipped,change the way you play the class),and there is around 30-40 of them,andcommunity is producing more and more of them.
Bekon6Piasek like market gardener, demoknight, huntsman sniper, ninjaneer
shut up you white cis male
just a prank brah
"overwatch is less crowded with only 6v6"
Tf2: *laughs in 6v6 competitive mode*
cries in 6v6 competitive mode
Let's be honest no one plays competitive
Sorry, but we don’t laugh at 6v6 Competitive Mode of TF2, we cry and get mad over it.
In fact, TF2’s competitive mode is MUCH less crowded than overwatch, because no one plays it :(
Don't get me wrong I perfer tf2 to overwatch. But isn't tf2 comp. Trash?
I love the fact that people still are commenting on how bad this video is
Because it's a fact
i hope they never stop
It is
They continue to leave it up, so...
Awwwww man ooooohhhhh man ooooohh boy
I love the part where tf2 outlived Overwatch
Twice
same
are you daft or something. overwatch is still very much alive
In the game of overwatch vs tf2, both lost to their own developers
"Overwatch charecters can grapple"
*LAUGHS IN MANNPOWER*
Good point but whoever plays Mannpower you know
@@toast4681 but grappling hook is fun, so there would be players who plays mannpower
@@toast4681 it just got updated this month
Do you ever feel, like a plastic bag
Lazy purple 2020
@@sayori3016 LOL
"No molibity"
Soundsmith wants to know hour location
And shovel bashing
h o u r
@@dariouskilgore9598
*OUR*
soviet national anthem plays
Also Solar
No mobility
lmao ua-cam.com/video/NYma6tXnQQs/v-deo.html
Scout is way hotter than Tracer Nuff said.
But the Administrator is hotter than both of them. Though Grey Mann kinda comes close.
ThePlasmeticBrother Demoman got a sexy eye patch so he has that badboy edge that make my knees weak.
Good point, He also has good aim even when drunk so I know my kids are in good hands when they do something wrong. The bottle isn't called the Abusive Step Father for nothing and boy does it make me wet.
***** What does being gay have to do with anything?
Torbjorn gets to look at dem asses
I was here 4 months ago. But TODAY MARKS THE DAY not only YOU were WRONG,
*TF2 OUTLASTED OVERWATCH.*
Overwatch lasted longer then I thought it would, but we all knew tf2 would win.
And OW2 now
Tf2 has outlasted Overwatch...
Twice!
‘tf2 has no mobility’
TF2: *laughs in rocket jumping, trimping , scout especially with baby face blaster, thermal thruster and detonator pyro, soldier hitting teamates with disciplinary action, pyro rocket airblast jump, sentry jumping, sewer surfing pyro, sticky jumping, grenade launcher jumping, loose canon jumping*
b-hopping, grappling hooks, teleporting, soda popper, force-a-nature, boston basher, atomizer, parachute, airblast jumps, mantreads, and surfing damage
*pressing w*
@@gibbous_silver pressing space
This is underrated and I contributed in likes and Comments to make its place
The surprising things about your comment is that u did not edit to, and I had to use a million’s of edits in my comments, like rn
To be honest I think both communities didn’t really like this video much, pretty poor research, etc etc.
I would like to see one of these made by people who actually have played both games thoroughly and have picked a side they prefer.
@Marius Grimmel yeah that’s an actual comparison
Closest I can do is some pepper that can only describe things in terms of food
@Marius Grimmel Snickers dance party
@@what_d1245 its time to play the best damn tf2 of our lives
I have played both, and I prefer tf2 because of it's more simple gameplay and not taking itself seriously
9:16 He didn't even consider that in tf2 you can do the exact same thing, you get the kritzkrieg/medigun if you want to focus a single person, and you pick the quickfix if you would rather heal your teammates equally
POV: Amputator
"Overwatch is just more mobile" Yeah tell that to solarlight
demoknight tf2
@Soldier [TF2] or the black Scottish cyclops with sticky bombs
Tell that to soundsmith
Matpat is calling Solarlight a disabled person.
Demoknight gaming
I’m not one to hate on you, Mat, but please... play the game and learn about the community before doing stuff like this
Oof reality
8:28 WOW I SURE DO LOVE PLAYING TEAM DEATHMATCH IN TEAM FORTRESS 2
well they didn’t even open the game soooo......
Nah they are to lazy to EVEN DOWNLOAD the game and played some time...
Well mge does exist right
@@valleyFITONY I thought it was just 1v1
@@geckoplasm7394 isnt that deathmatch?
Anyone else gonna point out how they unintentionally predicted the title of valve's next multiplayer game would be Deadlock?
Wow even Tracers rewind can't fix that shitty like to dislike ratio.
Justin Leonard where's the BBQ sauce cuz sOMEONE GOT ROASTED
Plz stop being a 7 YR. Old
I need a Medic. Someone recieved a terminal burn.
Justin Leonard LOL
+flying scotsman Ill play mercy ill heal
Mercy is basically a glorified Quick-fix
Ah yes, hello
Ah yes, enslaved quick fix
as a medic main i agree
U tell him
MEDIC!
The biggist difference between overwatch and tf2 is that in 10 years people wont be playing overwatch
yES
That such a good roast I can feel it through my screen
No one is playing overwatch now
Semes legit
Bruh nobody is playing OW rn
Tf2 casual aimbots has more backstory and and personality than any overwatch characters combined
The truth is that tf2 character don't need the back story to carry them, they are just 9 guys that only tolarate each other, and that is what make them fun
This has not aged well. Overwatch 2 is incoming while TF2 is still alive and kicking. Full of bots and cheaters maybe, but still alive nonetheless.
Now he will say that overwatch 2 is ok because tf2 has also a 2 on it
I like your enthusiasm
From the user reports on steam and the website one. Tf2 is alive and still kicking and probably will be for a long time.
its like, a body living with a tapeworm. we just need surgery, valve
Overwatch 2 is just tf2's mvm
I like how mat almost never took damage after a good argument
And how todd took damage just because Matpat finished his sentence sarcastically for him. The truth is Jimbo, the game was rigged from the start.
@@inciniumz4671 todd: makes a good argument about maps and how many and the quality and does 5 damage
matt: makes a complete lie and gets 5 health and does 12 damage
@@aids7733 What a good video
@@aids7733 How it feels to be the main character
@underpaidJanitor5179 todd: fires a bullet of objectively true arguements and deals five damage
Matpat: stumbles, then pulls out a sarcastic joke with the bullet lodged in it "I guess it was worth holding on to this after all"
Matpat: lies and deals 27 damage
please remake the video with actual facts
Joel Weston yes i agree
i say we just force him to make an apology
Beanie Boy73 Yep
Joel Weston please do this remake this video with real evidence and about the gameplay instead of just an opinion
Am I late for this war?
This aged like horribly in the most hilarious way possible.
as someone else said "this aged like teleported bread"
Hey look, buddy, I'm an Engineer. That means I solve problems. Not problems like 'what is beauty?', because that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of philosophy. I solve practical problems. For instance, how am I gonna stop some big mean mother hubbard from tearing me a structurally superfluous new behind? The answer: Use a gun. And if that don't work? Use more gun. Like this heavy-caliber tripod-mounted little old number designed by me, built by me, and you best hope... not pointed at you
"MY ARMM!!!"
what is this.. it's so cryptic I cant tell what you're saying... what does meet the engineer have to do with this... help I'm not advanced enough to understand what this means
and this is why tf2 engineer is the best
That hank hill profile picture makes this golden.
**MORE GUN INTENSIFIES**
This video was so poorly researched....
Elaborate please
Trying to elaborate would take a huge list
There were so many arguments that MatPat didnt use, such as how you can easily counter 3 roadhog with 1 reaper, or how tracer was nothing like scout. Like actually compare them, tracers movement speed isn't fast, she just has a dash. She doesn't use a shotgun, she uses auto pistols.
i dont even think you can call them auto pistols, they are basically spam guns, and they arent even that accurate
agree
"Increases the likelihood that players will go rogue"
Thats... kind of the point
Why do you think the most popular maps are CTF 2 fort and Hightower
Me: oh you want team sticking together!
*procides to pick dust bowl
Not minding the fact that sometimes players go rogue in order to distract the enemy.
Let’s say a red scout goes on his lonesome to fight the blu team on dust bowl after they capped the first objective. Even if it is for selfish reasons like racking up kills it’s still very much a team thing because at least he’s distracting the blu team in a match that requires such distractions to win as the red team.
Not only that it could also convince other players to do the same. I’ve seen engies put up teleporters for this exact reason because the blu team will find it more difficult defending themselves from a full on ambush than taking the last objective.
Matpat is just wrong here as always and usually I’d be fine with that but he says it in such a cocksure and malicious way because Overwatch was popular back then.
@@matthewmason7792 isn't the timer for 2nd point on dustbowl hella long though
@@LurkyBoio well yes but the point stands that even if someone went rogue it’s helping the team by distracting the enemy.
Mercy: heroes never die!
Medic: ZE HEALING IS NOT AS REWARDING AS ZE H U R T I N G
Spy: Gentlemen synchronize your death watches
Matpat: "Overwatch has 12 maps vs TF2's 100. Quality over quantity."
Later....... Matpat:"Overwatch has 22 classes with more coming compared to your lousy 9"
Great logic matpat 10/10. Okay lets be serious. Overwatch's heroes are stuck at their normal weapons and they have a playstyle or 2. Comparte that to Team fortress 2 Which has probably over a hundred weapons. You can have so many playstyles. That just shows how much Research theese 2 guys did.
Hey, it’s like those fricken mechanical pencils that doesn’t even let you refill, so you have to go buy more of it
It’s around 8000+ weapon combinations for every possible load out
I know right
But I still overwatch better :)))))
Later overwach wall hacks with a ult
It's insane how someone explained the same topic *WITH FOODS* and still did a better job than this
Hears a durian
Day 756: my hand trembles... I try to grab the mouse... I really tried... and I did. I clicked on Overwatch. But before I could click it again... I asked myself: is this worth it? I mean... I'm risking my life.. and for what? A videogame? I turned the chair around to think. But... I didn't have time to explain myself. I saw them... spiky, foul, but menacing little creatures surrounding me... Durians. SO... SO MANY DURIANS. I escaped, but I near passed out and died from the smell of stepping on them.
I know right I thought the exact same thing
A fellow Doug Doug fan i see
Good ol' DougDoug
You're related to keemstar, aren't you?
Omg
This guy has figured it all out
Matpat is keemstar's gay cousin
LET'S GET ROIGHHT INTO THE "DEBATE"
this comment made my day
Tf2: Has seal
Overwatch: dosent have seal
🦭🦭🦭🦭🦭🦭🦭🦭🦭🦭
Seal gaming
Matpat: Tf2 is full of white males
Demoman: *Intense Anger in Scottish*
And mrs pauling and the announcer
AYE!
THATS RACIST
**charges at him**
i see... i found one of my comrads.
Pyro: hunuhunu
What struck me as weird was that he said males, not men, not guys, no, MALES, like it makes him seem smarter or something.
„TF2 has too many players on one match“
*Laughts in Competetive mode*
Comp is a joke
Comp is useless XD
@Jaydn Boulton Correct. The more players the more blood spilt on the playing-field. And more trolldiers, of course
>Overwatch has an active Cosplay community and it's porn is policed
>Tf2 entire cast is White males
Mat Pat is cringe king confirmed
Baguette Faguette Demo man?
So it's now a good thing that people's innocent hard work is getting policed, because it's pornographic? That's a terrible thing
all these replies are really silly. obviously demo man isn't white.
Baguette Faguette Love dat picture bro, U like mine
Ja Crispy Barry B Benson Makes me horny
Man, this video has no dislikes, seems like everyone enjoyed it!
just use a dislike extension
@@Tap11283there still aren't
This definitely proves that this video was well researched and definitely not biased at all
as someone else said in the comment section "this aged like teleported bread"
The most offensive video
who would win?
"no mobility"
or
"man with shovel"
My money is on some crazy random man weilding a shovel.
@@OliverTeLouie yeah
The eagle has landed
@@thebloodyj7407 on your head
@@sydssolanumsamsys *eats eagle*
Mattpatt, Kindly do RESEARCH on both games, King raja Did a way better research on both games than both of you.
ikr
yep
True
Yup
yasssd
I REALLY don't like that MatPat tried to bring the characters' races into this, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Also pretends Demoman is nonexistent
@@thexylophone Maybe Matpat is Scotishist.
Entire enemy team is BABIES!!!
Aren't mercenarys also generally not allowed to be female?
his explanation is stupidly horrible. I dunno how he play's tf2 he is dumb as a box of rocks.
6:23 ah yes, because pressing shift to be anywhere on the map is funnier and more challenging than something that requires actual mechanical skill
Video: * is made *
Both communities involved:
*_Y O U H A V E A L E R T E D T H E H O R D E_*
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA
TAAAAAANNNNNKKK!!!
@@jakebolls3420 remember dont alert zhe vitch
"I think i hear one of those back humpers."
Smokers got me
"Tf2 updates multiple times a year" he says................this didnt age well
"valve. can we have new updates please. PLEASE"
technically, it does, the updates are small tho
@@jankkhvej434 and almost do nothing the last 2 things that changed where to stop a bot issue
@@jankkhvej434 I probably should've specified major updates
Didn't even make sense back when it was first uploaded.
Matpat says that support classes can't get good scores:
Swipez wants to know your location.
That how every support class you tubers will do
Swipez, arrayseven, mrpaladin, stabby, etc would like to know his location
Swipez already knows his location
PiZzA FlAvOrEd H2o aaaand your teams gone
Jesus I forgot about swipez... his spy is scary though man
this aged like milk, its about which game is better. when TF2 has out lasted Overwatch twice and TF2 hasn't gotten an update since 2017.
I've only been playing TF2 for about a month and even I can spot the inaccuracies in this video. C'mon man, if a newb can spot your flaws, that's saying something.
Bruh I havent even played tf2 before and I know some flaws from my friends like no mobility in tf2 I'm pretty sure soldier has mobility
Three months
3 months as well
I just watch gmod animations and know more
Wow I’m glad people are still playing tf2 i still play it and I’ve been playing for 7 years it’s so nice to hear new players are still joining the fun!
You know they haven't played either games when they bring up porn and cosplay as a valid reason for Overwatch being better than Team fortress 2
they're implying tf2 doesn't have good porn and cosplay? they should do their research :^)
Tfw quality of game is determined by rule34 availability
agreed
I have 1,200ish hours on overwatch and 2,500ish on tf2.
I can say this:
TF2 kept me on longer.
+A Bottle Of Scrumpy Oh but Tf2 doesnt have females... Gay much?
ms.Pauling
"Overwatch's gameplay is better"
His explanation:
Anything is possible you dont explain it
Along with this video too
His explanation: rule34 and cosplay ez gg
Not only did it TF2 outlasted Overwatch, it outlasted Overwatch 2!
*_LOOK WHOS LAUGHING NOW MAT!_*
Overwatch and overwatch 2 are the same games lolol
"It may be sold as a new game, buts that because, it is"
Ah yes, the floor here is made of floor
Also, does he tried to call tf2 an "Incomplete" game with that line?
13 maps IS NOT A FULL GAME
“As neutral and unbiased as possible” nice try shatpat
SHATPAT?!?!? AHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You are the funniest man I know.
@@sylviabuzantian3307 ik right? Hallarious
@@theultimaterich6302 indaad
Make it a hashtag
@Rafael Suprayogi screw you, I'm gonna go play minecraft!
"No mobility in tf2"
*Laughs in rocket jump*
yeah, not to forget that every class (except the sniper) benefits from skillfully using their movement. how's Isabelle doing btw.
Laughs in Scout Speed and Double Jump
Laughs in Demo Sticky Jumper
Laughs in Pyro Jetpack
Laughs in Medic Medigun (when you have a beam on lets say, a Scout, your speed increases to the Scout's speed to catch up to him, but you can't decrease speed when healing Heavy)
Laughs in Heavy Gloves of running
Laughs in Engie Wrangler
Laughs in Sniper Rocket Riding
Laughs in Spy Big Earner
Laughs in Soldier Rocket Jumper
Dont forget sticky jumping
Laughs in Sticky Jump
laughs in trimping
Man, hindsight can be sooooooo hilarious sometimes