Back to Eden Organic Gardening 101 Method with Wood Chips - Leaves Composting G. Series # 11
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- This is Part 11 of 12 Part Series that will help you understand the PRO'S & CON'S of Back to Eden organic deep mulch gardening secrets 101 method with wood chips to composting just Fall leaves. Great start for beginners Tour our secrets for organic soil & growing gardening vegetables 101 documentary with pest control. Looking into soil food web & soil health in a no till organic garden. diy garden. Organic gardening and farming.
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Hands down one of the MOST important gardening videos I have seen. Thank you!
Thank You.. for your kind words and for watching too.
Best ever explanation and illustration ever!!! You are a natural born teacher! Thanks for this !
Glad it was helpful!
18 minutes flew by. Keep em coming Mark! Thanks for the free info as usual.
THANK YOU. I think the next could be 1 hour long. A review of everything..
I agree with what you are saying and I know it works after 35 years doing this every body used to laugh at my garden because of all the weeds ( that I would cut down now and then so my plants got enough light) but they didn't laugh when they sor the results of my vegtables
What I don't understand is why you don't grow perenul plants that can bring you a income like strawberrys and there are alot more as you know
very interesting vids that you bring and opening a lot of peoples eyes
I WILL.. It is not a time to get strawberries plants right how.. THANKS. In the spring i will replant a row of 300 on the east side of the bed..
Hey Mark, I just wanted to mention that I can't stop grazing on my baby winter pea shoots that are coming up. So tender and delicious!
GREAT, you get 2 things for the price of one...FOOD and BUILDING SOIL..THANKS for sharing.
Thanks for the great videos, you have taught me so much, can't wait to listen and learn more!
Thank you! I am just wondering, why not plant the cover on the whole field instead of a row? i.e. why not have roots in the soil on the whole field? I do see the benefit of using your row soil to raise your beds, but I'm just thinking having living roots on your whole field builds soil across the whole field.
I know this is an old post. Mark has previously spoken about how he has a special needs son that needs a wider aisle size to walk.
Opps and planted, my plants are so large and healthy and thick, the mushroom fertilizer was what really did the trick. Thanks for explaing all that.
GLAD to hear your success and sharing it with me. THANK YOU.
Really interesting, this makes me think I should start some plants in my lawn without clearing a large area but rather dig some small holes right in the lawn, perhaps pumpkins or melons or squash would really work out in such a situation. This is so different than most lawn to garden conversions where someone rips out the land and then rototills the soil makes rows, etc.
Hopefully that outlet is grounded.
Thanks, That just made my day better...
I love your analogies. Best videos i have ever seen. Thanks.
I literally cant wait for your videos to pop up on my subscribed list! There is so much to learn and I love watching your methods. Well done, well done, I am sure you are converting so many people and hopefully farmers too maybe even on large scales to change their minds about farming in this way. I thought I knew so much about growing with woodchips and mulches now it seems I knew hardly anything. You would make an excellent speaker at horticulrtal events - its so interesting, thank you thank you : )) x
I am really haveing FUN doing all this. And sharing all info from everyone writing in on my channel..THANK YOU
What I hear you describing is this - our current way of thinking (competition, extraction, deficit, replacement) has got us into trouble by depleting from the soil what only nature can replace. In nature, plants cooperate, contribute and produce a surplus that compounds and works to create diversity. That diversity creates stability.
I also hear echos of Hazelip, when she tried to mimic Fukuoka's method in the south of France. She had to adapt his methods using the principles he advocated in order to make it work in her climate. You are observing and interacting with your environment (permaculture principle) and adapting the BTE methodology to work there. You are not slavishly adhering to any prescription, but working with your natural systems to create abundance.
Keep the faith, brother!
There is only one method - NATURES WAY - No one person should claim a method of doing it better that nature. I am just showing how nature works -- no method. People are not smarter than nature, just leave it alone..and enjoy.. ITS FREE..THANK YOU
Another great video! I use a similar system, and one thing I found is I do need to mow my cover before planting in the spring. Sometimes even twice, the second mowing 3-5 days after the first. This sort of puts the cover in a dormant state for long enough for my seeds and seedlings to germinate and get up and into the sun, without actually killing my perennial cover or the AMF it supports. Just a caveat I found here in Oklahoma you may wish to consider, or trial. This would be roughly equivalent to the permaculture "chop and drop" since I use a mulching mower.
THANK YOU. Can you post pictures of that on your google page..?
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING posted a few photos
Thanks again Mark for sharing and educating us all on this method of gardening. The voice quality and video quality of these presentations are excellent. It is a superb course on a much needed topic. Hope you will continue to produce them.
THANK YOU, for your kind words... Still have lots of thing to cover fro years...
I’m starting to pick up what you’re putting down . Excellent video Tks
Awesome! Thank you!
I really enjoyed this series of videos. Thank you.
And THANK YOU so very much for watching.
Awesome series thank you Mark👍
I enjoy using the Back To Eden Method, just sharing...
Always fascinating! I'm going to try at least one bed as a perennial green manure, perhaps for next year's squashes.
That sounds GREAT.. It is not a false myth that clover shares nitrogen with other plants while growing. THANK YOU for watching.
Very interesting and thanks for the plant list
THANK YOU for watching..
Great video, THANKS!
THANK YOU for your kind words and watching too...
Thank you for your videos!
MY PLEASURE,, THANK YOU so much for watching and writing you kind words..Mark
Plants do need more water if they are in symbiosos with on of the 30 endomycorrhizal fungi, however they do have better access to it due to a larger root system and the fungis ability to absorb water in very dry conditions, it should be noted though, that some mycorrhizal fungi inhibit others, for example those of orchids and Ericaceae, and high levels of posphorus, nitrogen and damp soil severly limit the mycorrhizal fungi
Thanks for the info. I think there is over 300 endo types.
@@iamorganicgardening I meant the arbuscular mycorrhiza, which are the relevant ones, they are probably the most anicent and also the most wide spread in ~80% of plant species, however they consitst of little diversity in contrast to those fungi we know typically, it is a taxonomic inverse law, for fungi and plants.
Here is the article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbuscular_mycorrhiza
Another great video
THANK YOU so very much and for watching too.
Great info Mark. Have some beds of cover crops established already, as well as one with 2 rows of sunflowers with field peas between them. Re; Paul's trees, I don't think all mycorrhizal trees are that sharing . 2 huge silver maples in my yard seemed to suck the garden dry, with roots extending for beyond the drip line into beds that were well watered.
What is on top of all the roots from silver maples in your yard...? grass? Remember roots do not stop growing on trees. They are always searching.. In this bed did the plants ever suffer/ die from lack of water..? THANKS
Some people do call maples a "weed" type tree. Even worse are walnuts, that actively kill many plants in their root zone. Mark is sound with his advise, but always remember, there are always exceptions to the rule.
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There were beds of herbs, green, eggplants affected. But the most surprising dried out bed was the garlic that I planted last fall in an untilled, but straw mulched cucumber bed, and topped with at least 4 inches of shredded leaves. They were great looking in the spring, but there was no rain to speak of. By mid-June the soil was rock hard.
Maybe a video about all the enemies to mycorrhizal fungi that are sold or encouraged by modern cultivation techniques.... That would be a good topic, no?
I have to be very careful what I put in my videos.. YT is a business not a right..
New rules starting on YT to all that post videos.. They can take videos down if they feel it does not help to promote someone to advertise.. YT is a business and I respect there choice to generate income..THANKS
I can't thank you enough for the information that you have provided in your many videos. I have learned an awful lot, but I do have one quick question: Instead of planting winter rye in your wood chip gardens and elsewhere, why not simply buy mycorrhizae and spread that? It seems that then you would have the fungus that you need while not having to deal with the Winter Rye growth in your garden later in the season... I am a novice at this, so I am just looking for your expertise on this question. Thank you!
GREAT QUESTION..Thank you for asking.. Both endo and ecto Mycorrhizal fungi - needs a living root to grow in. THE spores invades the root of a growing plant in a good way and only then It can grow and live. If the spores never come into contact with a living root they will just stay spores and some will die over time. This way all those living perennials roots start growing the fungi and i can just plug in when I plant into them,,,Hopes this answer your question..If not please write back..THANK YOU
Because PLANTS feed soil (sugars & liquid carbon ) and build soil ( fungi ).. You need PLANTS not all wood chips..
So when I took down my pool to put a wood chip garden in it was all sand. We went down the road to a nursery a got black soil and put that down first and then we went and got mushroom fertizer and put that down. Then we went back to the nursery and good clean wood chips and put them down
Will the rye grow too tall and become a shading issue? I am working on my land right now trying to cut some swales on a slope. I am hoping to quickly get some clover established to over winter if I can move fast enough.
Can I stick with varieties of clover only? The white torch I've planted around my homestead two years ago is doing *amazing* I don't even need to manage/mow any green areas anymore because the clover has completely eradicated the weeds. Its just a green blanket.
I can imagine this clover is building a very good top-soil layer of nutrients. However, If I try to plant directly 'into' the clover in the spring time I'm afraid it will simply smother anything I try to plant with-in days. I was hoping to use your hog-panel over paper method right over the clover in the spring. Do you still recommend that method? Do you think that the paper would kill the clover and ruin the soil web? I don't mind removing the paper and replanting in the fall. I don't want to loose two years to making a mistake :)
Just STAY with the clover then...THANKS
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING would you paper mulch over it when you go to plant? Or would that cause too much damage? I'm just afraid it will suffocate anything I plant because its so aggressive.
Do you think not using the paper would be more productive?
YES and NO. Larger plants like tomatoes, squash, watermelon, corn..are the NO's - it will not hurt them, no paper. The YES at things that are small like carrots, beets, etc..Just try a smal strip a foot wide, Not the whole cattyle panel. It also depends on the time of the year you are planting them, early spring is slow growth. But all might be OK in early summer and fall - Faster growth for the small seeds. TRY and make NOTES.. THANKS
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING Thank you! I will be sure to video my progress and send it to you!
THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC... THANK YOU.
Thank you. I have learned a lot over the course of your videos. How would this work for small gardens? I garden intensively. Would this work in a greenhouse?
Small gardens.. YES. In a greenhouse..You would have to have nature be able to get in and out..except in winter.. THANK YOU for asking..
This may be a naive question but can I just let the weeds that grow naturally fill in and cut them back? Or will they just end up choke out my veggies
Hi Mark,
Great video as always. 2 questions: What are your thoughts regarding inoculating cover crop seeds? I've seen this done in other videos. Not necessary?
2nd: What are your plans for your beautiful sunflower field?
Inoculate the first time is OK. Then the soil should have it by then..living in the future. The sunflowers we harvest all the tops and sell them. They on average have 800 edible large seeds per top, THANKS
Exactly right! Inoculate is not wrong, but it is a cost. So learning to do it only once or twice then keeping a living root in the ground at all times so you never need to do it again is by far the best strategy.
Are you getting the extra soil needed for the raised beds from the area between the rows and pulling it into the raised beds?
YES, then just fill the hold with wood chips... THANKS.
I really want to try growing vegetables in a green patch next season! One thing I don't understand: I can find as many videos showing that weeded vegetables do better than unweeded. Is there a functional difference between the random weeds and your cover crops? Is it all about the nitrogen?
Let's solve this together. Great question. Can you direct me to a video that you look at for this. THANKS
Excellent videos. I also live in zone 6b. Would it be too late to plant ground cover you mention now?When would be the optimum time to plant ground cover? Thanks
You can still plant winter rye.for the next few weeks. The best person to ask is the seed company you buy from. Or download that book in my other video posted 2 weeks ago.. THANKS for watching.
Ok, we are converting our garden ( 30x200'). If I understand your "lessons learned", soil "raised beds" planted with clover/peas/sunflowers, with chips in between the rows? Too late for rye this year, I can get an early start in the spring with some hoops to get some My. Fungi in as early as possible.
THANKS, that sounds GREAT. Keep me updated and please ask anything of concern you may have..
thanks again for the lesson Mark. How tall will your cover crop get? Im trying to picture how I will use this in my garden. Why wouldn't i plant my entire garden in cover crop, place plates on the ground where i want to grow vegetables, and let it grow? Can you mow the cover crop if it gets too tall, or is that going to un do what you did? Thanks in advance.
THANKS. Each year is different height due to the weather but lets say on average it is a foot tall. Except winter rye can go to 6 feet. So I cut everything a 6 to 8 inch tall to get regrowth and to feed the soil. YES, you can plant the whole thing with cover crops like you said. NOT A THING wrong with that..
thanks for all the informations. Do you think I can use strawberries instead of winter ray?
It depend on the area ( weather ) you live in. It is better to use the winter rye if you have a long cold winter.THANKS
do you run your rows in a certain direction north/south, east/west
No, I do not, I run them for the best gravity drainage do to slopes. My Key to this is, plenty of spacing between the rows to reduce shading of veg crops over a foot tall. Thanks For asking.
also i am wondering if it is better to inoculate with myco fungus or let it find the garden naturally. I have no idea how many different myco there are, are there "native" varieties.
YES, there are native varieties and they are all around for free. You choice to buy if you wish..THANKS for asking.
How might one plant these perennial root crops in, say, a 4'x8' raised bed where I don't plant in rows but instead do something more like Square Foot Garden? It would be rather tough to keep these grasses and clover low when interspersed with the veggies.
In each corner of the square you can plant strawberries or at least 2 corners.I HOPE this is helpful, if not PLEASE WRITE BACK...Mark
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING Ah, good thinking, I'll give that a try, thanks!
THANK YOU for watching.. Plus you get more food too..ENJOY
Hi Mark, I love all your well explained videos, thank you for all your work!
I have a question about the brassica family and mycorrhiza fungi.
I found an article that said that the brassica family decrades the myccorhizal fungi. (Check google ‘the invasive plant: brassica degrades micorrhizas’)
I was wondering if you wanted to test this this year and wondering if it is a good idea to plant brassicas in an different part of the land so it won’t affect the other plants in the garden/ to help the garden food web?
Would be great to hear from you, thank you!
Kind regards, Elvire
Hello, You are correct. Please keep in mind that it is only in that small area where the brassic root zone is. I can plant clover or winter rye in the walking paths to keep it alive.. THANKS for asking.
That study refers only to Brassica Nigra (black mustard) not the entire family, though
Hi Mark, surely the roots of these cover crops will choke the roots of any crops you plant especially the grasses. They will also compete with your crop plants for moisture in dry periods?
That is what I was taught also.. BUT with new research by many USDA farmers this is not true. You will see this summer. I THANK YOU for watching and sharing your outlook..
Hi Mark, thanks for your prompt reply, I just don't see how this can be true, i'm pretty sure that if I were to dig a hole in amongst the grass in my lawn and put up a seedling, the seeding wouldn't do very well and that in dry weather the grass would take all the moisture and the plant would die. It's a survival of the fittest situation,
Please Watch Part 12.. This will answer that very question.. Click this link: ua-cam.com/video/Lwwo3EtQJSA/v-deo.html . THANK YOU
How do u fight pests?
Hi Mark, great video! I have many "weeds" as well as melons remaining in my 50' x50' garden. I still have mounds of woodchips I can put down. If I just cover the whole garden area with 6" of chips will I still be able to plant the cover crops? I'm not clear on how you are doing the raised beds. Thanks!
LETS say you and the 6" of chips on the whole garden. You have the raise the soil level wear you plant the melons to to the same level as the chips. Because you with cover it with cover crop. The green areas in the my video is raise to the level of the chips and is 2 feet wide and 300 feet long. LET ME KNOW if this answers for question..THANKS
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING So I just lay down the chips in say, 3' beds 6" deep, 2' apart and put new topsoil in between on top of the woodchips that are already there? So I've got to buy like 10 or 20 yard of new topsoil? Thank you.
NO.. Do not buy any top soil. If you can what a few days I will have a video on my NEW Back to Eden Melon Patch. This will answer your question..THANKS
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Thank you sir!
Sorry I am running late in making this that video. I POSTED 6 Steps on my google page. Just click on the RED BUTTON marked G above the subscribe button on the upper right hand side of my main page. That will OPEN it up - then look for a group of pictures named MELON PATCH on top.. THANKS, PLEASE let me know what you think...
Please keep in mind Paul uses straight wood chips in his orchard and composed wood chips from his chicken pin.
YES, I put Paul's video on that in my playlist ...THANKS for writing in.
I don't get it ⁉️ I have a field that grows grasses every year, I've never tilled it, and it never builds soil. Why do you think that is? The grass grows, I cut it down, and it is still pure clay
it seems to me a paradox, for example before you punted wood chips it was growing grass but you killed it intentional so you disturbed ore killed the mycorrhizal fungi now you are trying to get more weeds (perennials) is that that you wont mycorrhizal fungi only in wood chips ore i am missing the point.
YOU are CORRECT.. That is the reason I started this garden series is to show the pro & cons about wood chips vs fall leaves by themselves.. It does not work well.. and how to have a happy middle. THANK YOU or sharing your thoughts.
Wouldn't the fungus be able to live in the wood chips?
Sorry, No. It needs a living root to feed it sugar from the plant to stay alive. and in the wood chips or leaves there is to much air gaps, change in temperature and large amount of things that will eat it. It would have a slight chance in early winter and early spring but will die off quickly..
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING thanks. I am deeply confused on this point. I have been to Paul Gautschi's garden and he doesn't appear to use any over crops and his plants are off the charts. myco fungus appears to be the magic key to all of this but somehow Paul overcomes this problem of going fallow without a cover crop
Go back to the 15.32 minute mark on this video and you will see how Paul does it..THANKS.. Hope all is clear. He has the mycorrhizal fungi alive from his tree roots.
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING wow thanks I missed that. will have to think deeply on that, I'm wondering how much proximity is an issue. I will have berries in one section of my garden and the other there is a fruit tree close by but not sure if it is close enough. thanks for taking the time on this there are few people to talk to who garden this way with your level of knowledge. thank you
Here to HELP, anytime.. You can also plant clover to help the fungi..