Back to Eden Gardening Method Soil 101 with Wood Chips vs Leaves Composting G. Series # 12
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- This is Part 12 of 12 Part Series that will help you understand the PRO'S & CON'S of Back to Eden organic deep mulch gardening soil improvement 101 method with wood chips to composting just Fall leaves. Great start for beginners Tour our secrets for organic soil & growing gardening vegetables 101 documentary with pest control. Looking into soil food web & soil health in a no till organic garden. diy garden. Organic gardening and farming.
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Mark, each video I have been revisiting lately makes me more appreciative of your dedication to make sense of soil and plant science for ordinary people! Your channel is the one I come to so I may better understand many of the
concepts and practices in growing in even residential gardening!
I have been watching David the Good’s Survival Gardening Channel and I believe you are both brothers from different mothers! He does a grocery row gardening method in which he grows all manner of plants, trees, fruit bearing bushes together. His concept shares the same ideas you are clarifying in this video! If weeds show up he just cuts the tops off and uses that material as a mulch! In short , everything is utilized with minimal to no disturbance to the soil.
Seeing your video again just further reinforces my understanding!!!
Again thank you for your shared knowledge and contributions to UA-cam land!!! I hope you and your son are well and many blessings to you both!
Looking forward to more of your videos! A fan from zone 6B Indiana🥰
What I have been missing... learning from the ground up!! (PUN INTENDED). Mark you are a natural teacher and it is a blessing to be learning from you.
YES, nature teaches us from the ground up.. Just trying to make gardening easy & fun.. THANK YOU.
Thank you 'Professor Mark'...another great explanation of "growing soil"!
THANK YOU for saying growing soil..
Thank you very much Mark. You answered my question, and many more things i never even thought of. I really appreciate the work you do. I believe you're making the world a better place via education :)
THANK YOU.. Just helping to show how really easy it is.. Nature does all the work...
I've been binge watching this series of 12. I had heard of Permaculture farming, and still don't know what that is. And I'd heard of Back to Eden gardening and didn't know what that was. Now I have a much better idea. Thank you so much. I finally realized I should probably just subscribe already, so I did. D'uh
I had been doing it wrong all along. When I had a house I wanted to buy a compost bin. Husband said no. I asked if we could build one then, he said no. "We'll just buy compost". I tried to get him to get the lawn to grow longer so the roots would grow deeper, in a drought area it made sense to me. But he insisted on cutting it short. I planted strawberries one year, 6 plants. I got about 3 berries the first year, BUT the plants sent out runners and made more plants. By year 2 I had at least 24 plants and while they were in season, I picked a pound of strawberries every single morning. My family was getting sick of strawberries. Year 3 he ripped up my strawberry plants and rototilled the ground. I was so upset.
I would cut dead leaves off tomatoes and zucchinis and leave them on the ground, he'd get mad at me for not cleaning up. We aren't married anymore. He kills everything he touches.
THANK YOU for sharing.. ENJOY GROWING in every way in your amazing future ahead.
@@iamorganicgardening Thank you for teaching. So I think from what I have seen so far, that plants grown in hydroponics won't have the same nutrition as plants grown in soil, right?
@@recoveringsoul755 You would have to keep all the minerals in soil soluble in the water. I am not sure you can do that at a hydroponic level even with pumps moving the water alot.. Plus the water never stores carbon for the plants . And will not let mycorrhizal grow in water that is 50 times better getting nutrients. Plus Nature never grows lettuce in water anywhere on this planet. THANKS
Hey! I was there 15 years ago, now I have a farm :) hang in there!
Blessings to you dear sister. Enjoy your garden as God heals you heart. Sincerely.
Thank you so much. Wow I never realised Alfafa went so deep. I have loved watching these and learning from you. Much appreciated
And I Appreciated your kind words. THANK YOU.
Thank you so much for this much needed info. I tired a garden last year and it was a epic fail. First year being a homesteader learning through it all. Love your videos, subscribed and will be watching more
That is very kind of you to SAY. I also just subscribe to your FANTASTIC channel and looking forward to your next video...
Just saying the truth! Cant wait to try again this year with the garden. Have much better info this time around ;) Did you get a chance to look at other videos we did?
Watching the video of the farm sales scores now..THanks
This series has been extremely helpful. Can't thank you enough.
THANK YOU, I am glad you enjoyed the series.. Looking forward already to plant in a few months..
Hey Mark. I've been binge watching your videos for a week, and I'm nowhere near done yet. Thank you for such amazing content - I've learned a ton.
Such an exciting future for the world of agriculture.! Truly "tikkun ha olam" (The restoration of all things) thanks Mark!
GREAT OUTLOOK.. Nature is here to help us.. We should be kind and respect this gift. THANK YOU.
Amazing Mark. So we’ll explained and shown. Love your stuff!!!
THANK YOU so very Much...
You did a great job explaining so much. I shared it in my garden group on FB.
Thanks.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.. That is a great Christmas gift.. What can I give to you..?
Some home made fudge. LOL. I am fine really. Your friendship is enough of a gift. Merry Christmas. :)
Thanks for making this series. Really interesting!
My pleasure to share and help. THANK YOU.
Always interesting and good to come back for another listen.
THANK YOU for watching..
good video Mark! I'm ready to try out my soil that I'm growing thanks to you.
MERRY CHRISTMAS to you ant the loved ones..
Thanks Mark,
Your vids on why not to go monoculture are even more important in regards to the root biome.
Merry Christmas
THANK YOU and a very Merry Christmas to you and all your loved ones..
So helpfull. Getting more and more grounded in better coexisting with true nature. Thanks so much.
Nature is a best friend.. THANK YOU.
thank you - great series
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And a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and your loved ones..THANK YOU.
great, thanks for all the information.
THANK YOU for watching and your kind words..
Awesome 👌teaching video 👌
Thanks,very informative.
I am very glad to hear that and it was informative to you.. THANK YOU so much, and for watching too.
Great presentation!
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Very well explained!
THANK YOU, and thanks for watching too.
Merry Christmas Mark and to all your family.
THANK YOU and a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Years to you and all dear to you..
Thank you.
Very nice!!
Always THANK YOU so very much for all your comments.
Thank you for follow up.
My pleasure to share. Thanks.
Grerat series of videos
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THANK YOU for subscribing. And you kind words too.
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING My pleasure dear friend, Please check out my channel if YOU have time
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Mark, I assume that after a point weeds do compete by shading out the crop. Perhaps you could address with a video how that is controlled when allowing them to subsist. Once again thanks for all that you do. Mike
From my understanding, even the leaves are "Back to Eden" gardening. All that this method is, is placing a covering over the soil. Heavy mulching. Paul utilizes wood chips because they're in abundance in his area. He mentions to use whatever you have in your area. Be it leaves, rocks, wood chips, etc.
So, in reality you've already been doing the same method with the leaves.
CORRECT, on the upper layer of the soil. But you need to grow soil with roots so you can let air a water in and keep the soil food web alive,. THANKS.
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING hi there, but I think I heard Paul G say to start with woodchips and dwarf fruit trees. I think that the fruit trees would go deeper than some of those plants no? But you're right it's all built up over time. Love how channel breaks it down and explains the reasons why it all works. Thankful for your work!
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How does mycorrhizal fungi survive times of plant dormancy, when there's no or very low levels of photosynthesis? Like under a heavy snow pack. Do dormant plants continue to send sugars to their root systems stored somewhere or are sugars stored in the roots themselves? How long can a fungus survive in the root system of an annual, like say a corn stock, after the plant has died back? Great channel, by the way. It's extremely informative!
Great question. If can make spores to live in the soil...like seeds. They will stay there until a living root is near by again the host it. Second : They is always plants in nature the stays green a winter to feed them.. Like winter rye as a cover crop can be used. THANK YOU.
Thanks Mark! My vegetable garden is getting its cover crop seeds this weekend; winter rye + legumes
This is such a great video. So I'm making a new garden area and just yesterday I put cardboard over a poke weed. I should uncover it and let it grow? Sandy Florida soil.
Thank you for all your research and scholarship in this investigation. I am only at the first year with my "eden like garden' . My plot isn't large it is about 30ft by 25ft. I covered it with construction paper and wood chips . prior to that I put legumes that I let go fallow and I put in fall leaves that has now wintered under the paper and wood chips. I am wondering if I should forgo this year's planting and put in a semi cover crop and start planting the 2nd year?
You can plant anything in the brassica family ( like kale, etc ). Because it does not need mycorrhizal fungi to help grow so you can get a crop you r first year to eat. Then still plant a perennial living root also to support the growth of soil food web that includes mycorrhizal. Hopes this answer your question, if not PLEASE write back. THANKS
Hello Mark, I’m new to gardening so I have been researching various methods on the internet and ran across your channel and I am most impressed with the effort you have put into your videos. My property is covered with pine trees that are scheduled to be thinned this year and I plan to clear an acre for an orchard/vegetable garden. I have been collecting wood chips and horse manure in preparation for making compost, any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you David
Hi, Do not use a lot of horse manure. Even aged.. Rabbit is best, The horse or and animals today use lots of add meds and poor feed the will cause damage later on. UNLESS it is from your own supply.. THANKS
In case a video not made. Looking forward to see what happens to the rye cover crop.... still connecting the dots. Thanks again.
I will be showing it at every level this year and how I maintain it. I just showed some in my raised beds and doing a trail test on it... THANK YOU..
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Fantastic answer...lol
I just watched all you videos this weekend! Wow! Changed my thought process with gardening. Ty! I've been fighting clover in garden for years lol. I have a home garden 30x50ft. If I understand you, I should plant winter rye and clover, like a lawn, then "break" it over in a path or row and plant beans, tomatoes, cukes, etc in the broken path with putty knife. This will not compete but rather feed the plants to grow. Right? Do I plant winter rye now or fall?
Also, I would prefer rye grass 1-2 feet high, how often would I need to trim with hedge trimmer lol?
Reminds me of a linear version of Masanobu Fukuoka's methods. Have you ever read "One Straw Revolution"?
Thanks Mark.I am still confused, however. I have planted cover crops of winter rye and red clover in my BTE backyard garden. Are you saying NOT to terminate the rye in the spring, but to add perrenials to the mix? Pokeweed is a nightmare here in Virginia and are you actually planting it?
I have planted my entire garden w the cover crops, nit just in rows. I am looking to naturalize the garden in a manner like permaculture, with no rows, but groups of plants, how would that best be accomplished? My thought is to possibly clear paths in the cover crops in a random way, add suitable endomycohryzal perrenials such as grasses, herbs etc and also my vegetables and sunflowers in groups. Could you give me your thoughts?
Let me help.. Just send a private message though my home page and I will send My phone # so we can talk to reduce the confusion. THANKS, Mark
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING thanks Mark. With the holidays I am pretty busy, can we do this shortly after new years?
YES, that would be PERFECT.. ENJOY.
Love your info and teaching method.
Employing no till with diverse cover crops for the first time starting last fall. Im in wester NC growing zone 7B. I get that leaving cover crop taller will develop deeper roots and feed soil food web. But we also have fire ants that LOVE to hide and nest in deep cover and under mulches. Know you don’t have fire ants, but wondering if anyone watching has found a good solution. Thanks!
Fantastic! Great to hear. I do not have fire ants. I know they are a pain. I know year ago someone would fill up coffee cans or old small pots with sand and have a handle on it to pick up. It would be trap to lure them in. Them them would move them to a safe spot and add gas a burn them,
Kudos, bro!
I see that plants aren't competing in the soil .. but aren't they actually competing for sunlight? I think some strategy might be employed in space planning if only to allow for light, no?
YES..light/root is key. So many options we have to choose from. THANKS
Hi Mark, thanks a lot for your work.I watched all the 12 videos in this series and they are really helpful to me in understanding soil and how to build it over time. However, I have a question: I do not have much land space and the little that is available has a lot of stones in it. It is actually too stony. Can I use raised beds to do the Back to Eden gardening? Thanks a lot for creating these videos.
Yes, you can. It will work very well for you. THANK YOU for watching.
Thanks for your response. it is helpful.
Sorry I'm so confused - I've got the cover crop growing but the roots are so huge and take up so much of my garden bed that I can barely plant anything into it. Even when I cut the stems down, when I part the soil all I see is roots, roots and more roots. Not anywhere near enough space for my beets our potato to grow - what should I do? Help!! I know you've mentioned in your other video never to pull roots out....
You are doing good... Just cut down to the soil level like you did and the roots will die with in a week so you can plant.. If you need to plant today just lay the seeds on top and cover with soil compost.. Hope all is clear . If not write back . THANK YOU.
ditto thanks. Does the type of woodchips matter, I am trying to do something similar, it will be christmas trees chipped - will that leave a too acidic humus?
No, all is good. ENJOY. Thanks for asking.
When you plant alfalfa do you water it or no so that the roots go deeper to get the water.
Just for the first few weeks to start it heathly. THANKS
Hi Mark, this next year I think it would be a big help if you showed more of your havesting plants amongst your soil-building plants at various times throughout the year. It's hard for me to understand how you manage the growth of these together. Also, since this is fall leaves versus back to eden, you should show more of the fall leaves angle so we can see the comparisons.
YES, I fully AGREE. I am trying to come up with a name for it that will show planting , harvesting and how to run a organic farm & business. Maybe ... Learn how to Become an Organic Farmer ( my farm story )
Hi Mark, where can I find your list of cover crop possibilities . Thanks
On my Facebook page. Click on the icon in the lower top corner on the home page with the sunflower top bar. Thanks
Dear Mark, Thank you for all your efforts. This is huge. I learned a lot from these videos. Keep on keeping on this great education. I have subscribed as well.
I watched this series and I understand that woodchips and roots are key to begin growing great soil. But what is the starting point if you are going from scratch? For example, you have a piece of land. And you have watched The Back to Eden Method and your in depth how-to's. You understand the process. But how do you start. Is it in year one: lay down the wood chips and in year two: sow the clover, the sunflowers, the winter rye and in year three: the vegetables and legumes? And with laying down the wood chips (and/or leaves) how much do you lay down? You do first 5 inches, wait for a month to start the composting-process, and lay another 5 or 7 inches? Or do you lay down 10-12 inches of fresh wood chip at once? So, how-to-build the foundation? You get just the wood chips or as well a good deal of composted material? What is your opinion about this?
How do you prune and how do you harvest? Have you special techniques? I am curious about your methods as well in this.
In advance thank you very much. A lot of questions, but thank you (perhaps the answers are in other videos I haven't seen yet).
God bless you and your son and in everything you lay your hand on.
All the love from The Netherlands
THANK YOU for the sub.. Where are you in the Netherlands. Are you in the north with clay soil? Or near the airport with sandy soil?
I am in the province of Flevoland, that is a new poldered land (for about 100 years now). Living on the cultivated seabottom. So it will be clay soil. Thank you.
+Jorma Krenning, +I AM ORGANIC GARDENING
Great questions! Are there answers to these that we could have privy too? Would love to know. Thanks.
Mark, it amazes me the stuff that you know. This is all so interesting and helpful. I’m in the same boat. Not knowing where to begin. So I’m just going for it with raised beds on extremely rocky earth, little to no topsoil. Making a ton of compost and leaf mould. Waiting to see how things look by spring. From temperamental, rocky, no soil Nova Scotia! Blessings!!
Hoping to catch the answer to this one too
can u summerize briefly in a couple sentance which was superior? leaves only or woodchips only?
Paul confuses people in that he distinctly once stated nothing will gro in sawdust or woodchips only and that it's th needles and leaves where immediate input 2 soil really exists. Paul uses entire trees disentegrated so he has balance.
meanwhile, which grew stuff better? woodchips or leaves?
They are both the same..Just putting wood chips with leaves a small branches chopped up will not help grow soil. IS this a good first STEP.. Yes. Just like a foundation is to a house. First step Only but needed. Now their is more to build the house or to grow soil. NOW, You need a living root in the ground that you do not till of remove. This will support a key thing called mycorrhizal fungi. Which needs a living root in the ground as a host to live in ( Must Have ). Paul has this done buy many living fruit trees. strawberries, asparagus, raspberries, etc. I do this by plant a living cover crop in green strips in my raised beds with wood chips next to them. Wood chips is ONLY covering to walk on and to keep the soil covered reduce soil temp in summer and to hold moisture in. Now the key is again mycorrhizal fungi ( 2 types ) that 95% of plants on this beautiful planet need to grow better/well. Hope this answers you question.. If not PLEASE write back. Thanks, Mark
Hi ive spent the last few days watching all your leaves vs eden videos. Which are GREAT btw but i do have two questions. Q1 i have 3 raised bed (6x3 ft) height about 7inch which i filled with compost early this year, as youve explained compost does not build soil, how can i transition from no dig gardening to back to eden gardening. I do grow things in the winter like broad beans, garlic/onions, carrots and lettuce. Q2 is it possible to use a combination of leaves and woodchips? Eg put leaves down first and then put woodchips on top? Or would that be to excessive. . Thanks in advance :)
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING Thanks so much for replying. In response to Q1 would buying and adding topsoil be the same as using my local soil? Im based in the uk and we have very heavy clay soil. Many Thanks
Yes, use your local harden clay it is filed with minerals/nutrients. This will be fine because the soil food web will start to work in time and eat and release those minerals from the clay. Like they have been doing from day one when this beautiful planet was made. THANK YOU. There is no soil on this planet lacking minerals... it is lacking life of the soil food web
for the non mycorrhizal.. what do they respond to if anything at all? is it to say that endo and ecto don't help overall health of non mycorrhizal? thank you for your post Sir.
The non mycorrhizal plants serve a big role. They are the ones that grow first and loosen up the soil ( we call most of the weeds ). That is why most of them have many roots or large deep roots that grow fast and set a lot of seeds for next year..THANKS
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING simple enough. I know what you mean when it comes to understanding, "weeds." I love Dandies and Stinging Nettles. My perception of weeds has changed along my studies of agriculture.
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I AM ORGANIC GARDENING which is better in your opinion, fall leaves or wood chips?
I need to "feed" my apple and peach trees. What would you recommend that I plant? I was thinking clover and some veggie around them. TY
Also what would be synergistic with blueberry bushes.
Fine the best 3 types of Legumes . They will grow better with a little rye grass seed planted at the same time.. Until the cover gets establish you can use worm casting and use coffee grounds to help to now if needed. THANK YOU for asking and watching too.
Same thing . They DO NOT use mycorrhizal fungi at all .. But they need open a healthy soil to grow in that that is why the clover and rye will grow soil for them.. THANKS
If all the plants share and do not compete for nutrients, is there a need to do any weeding at all?
Correct. you can cut them to control the height and shading affect if you wish..
Do you plow the ryegrass under?
That great thing is you do not do anything to the soil. You crimp it : this video link will so what I did: ua-cam.com/video/XC3cDxdLkPw/v-deo.html . Thanks for asking
What if I leave my lawn to grow tall for just a month out of the year? Would the roots stay deep?
It would help. the tall or more green a plant has the stronger it feeds the soil. Thanks.
I don't know where the story started that elephant garlic isn't a garlic. Some people say it's a leek and others claim it's a shallot. It is a garlic although it may have originated as a garlic cross with some other unidentified plant. Just trying to right a long standing too often repeated inaccuracy.
Hi Mark, Please tell me what is your winter temperature range.
Great channel thank you
We have the craziest winter range lately Nov, Dec, Jan Highs 35 lows 20 F. Then FEB HIGH 20, LOW 5 the whole month. March Highs 40 low 20. The wind chill at any time can drop us 20 degrees. THANKS
I AM ORGANIC GARDENING thanks useful.
I'm trying to figure out my Gauteng Johannesburg South Africa winter garden. I have this crazy day time winter temperature of 22°c and -10°c at night with the most savage DRY FROST....half of my roses die in winter. But I'm trying to keep living roots in my winter vegetable garden....any advice??
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YES, what other types of thing do you see around you that say green, Like shrubs or other types of plants?
So what’s the verdict ? Wood chips versus leaves? Watch the whole series and you never did say. I’m disappointed. Lots of good info though.
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THANK YOU.
hii Sir,
I also theoretically know there is no such thing as mono culture in nature.. but why is that when i weeded my vege bed, and those vege grow faster and bigger after the grass were removed ?
because i experienced it myself, when the grass is removed from among the vege bed, the vege obviously seems to grow faster and bigger in that "instant" .
theoritically, what you said are all right, but why is that to achieve it, it is so difficult and different ?
when grass were grown among plants, it also become hidden place for snail that comes out to eat my vege...
Adam and Eve disobedient causes us to be in the curse that we have to toil and labour and the ground is not working for us..
i am a Christian, i believe return back to nature is our only way to be safe or turn from the path of earth disaster.
my pasture has told us to plant legume trees all around our crop bed.. but here in Germany, the sun is so little, that shade of the legume trees causes low vege yield.. very low.. especially when it is past summer.. the sun is so low on angle, that the trimmed legume tree cast shade of my low vege..
i tried many years ago using legume cover crop.. such as white clover.. apparently the are so fast grower and dense and talk that drown my veges... and they attract snail and behind breeding ground for it..
When you pull a plant out ( weed Etc ) what you do not see is the soil is reacts 10 times more to this. All that extra air will make the soil microbes eat each other giving of nitrogen to maybe a week.. But this comes with a huge cost.. It will take 2 months to repair..to rebuild the soil. Now your plants look good but they need more water. food..and even pest will go after them.