How Ukraine exposed Putin's greatest weakness | Sean Bell
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
- "Russia has played its hand and exposed to the world just how relatively inept it is."
Putin's invasion of Ukraine has forced Russia into exposing it's weaknesses to the world and the Kremlin might not forgive him, Sean Bell tells Frontline on #timesradio
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I think Sean forgot to mention that a huge part of why the Ukrainian Spring/Summer offensive failed was because the West sat on their hands arguing about sending tanks, planes and long-range weapons whilst Russia spent all that time building three lines of defence. Ukraine was then expected to break through all that without air support, which is something no Western armed forces would even contemplate. And here we are, still arguing about sending longer-range weapons. The F16s still have not arrived and the European nations cannot even organise the manufacture and supply of artillery shells. What is Ukraine supposed to defend itself with, harsh words?
Lack of air support was telling. Russian attack choppers ran freely. F16s still not flying.
I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment, all of this slow slog sending of weapons along with the ridiculous arguing about which ones to provide has basically been a disgrace! It makes me so angry to know it's STILL going on! The lack of air support too, yes an offensive without it is nothing a Western force would even consider. It's insane to see WWl trench warfare in 2024. Drones have made a difference but they aren't enough. Ukraine needs real aid NOW!
@@jeremyb4590amazing what daaaa you think f16 will operate freely Russia choppers they don't operate freely they are operate in harshest conditions ever posed on helicopters
This gentleman does not want to admit that the West was afraid of Putin’s nuclear blackmail and therefore deliberately did not arm Ukraine enough to prevent the Ukrainians from advancing on Crimea, otherwise Putin threatened to use tactical nuclear weapons and the West does not know how to respond to this. It’s easier for them to come to terms with the seizure of part of the territory of Ukraine, as long as Putin doesn’t show their weakness in the matter of nuclear blackmail.
Exactly, the west has betrayed Ukraine 🇺🇦.
You are forgetting the weapons didn't get to Ukraine until after Russia had time to fortify
You forgot that Ukraine lost most of its ability as a result of the first offensive and had to wait until new troops were trained. Yet Russian weapon production was soon greater than whole collective west production.
Amazing what daa you are forgetting Russia is using shovels
@@rouz0 Oh wow, RuZZia are so amazing 🙄
@@Matt1975ism I don't know about Russia. But safely can be said that we are dealing with some int""-"e"ll''e"c"-tually i°n°°"f-"e"•--rior s°"°p""e"c°)"°ies which involved in frui""t""less activities and ""w°""-i""p""°e themselves out. Otherwise, no m"ea"ning in such an o""p""e-""ra-""-tion💁🏻
Since 2014 the West was arming Ukraine. Even Merkel admitted this, she said they wanted to buy time with the Minsk agreement, in reality they never wanted to honor it.
I beg to differ. We did not give them all the shells they needed. Nor did we give them enough long range missiles and were late to give them when we gave them. Aircraft which are necessary for any combined arms battle are not there yet. Attack helicopters and F-16 were not delivered for the 2023 offensive. We been given them are old stocks of weapons from the 80's and 90's. So we could do more. The US and its allies spent $2 trillion in Afghanistan and Iraq using the most modern equipment. So we could do more especially with antimining equipment.
You can't give what you don't have or what they cannot use. 😄
Ma cosa pensi , missili a lunga gettata ,forza aerea ,carri armati di nuova generazione.
Che vuoi la guerra nucleare .
2 miliardi dati in AFGASTAN ,non mi risulta che con tanti soldi avete vinto la guerra .Siete scappati ,lasciandoli come cani .
Preghiamo per la PACE ,È MEGLIO .
All NATO armies are now depleted of ammunition and equipment as a result of what they delivered.
"We"? Who the heck is "we"?
It is American policy to dump you when things are bad. They have never won any battle in their history. From Vietnam to Afghanistan, and now Ukraine. They are simply making money for military industrial complex.
Ukraine got 50 % of the land that Russia took from them, isn't that good comparing the size of Russia's military to Ukraine's military without a Navy, or Air Force. I hope Ukraine can get back what is rightfully there's. Ukraine didn't start this Special Military Operation they want nothing to do with Russia isn't that obvious. Ukraine needs help, help them, please. Slava Ukraini and Slava the Free World !!!!
Don't you know, anything less than perfection is a failure.
The other extreme the west loves is the "Oh, you showed up, that's like putting in the effort, here is your gold star and you pass like everyone else - including the people who put in extra time to do an amazing job. Yep, that's right - everyone gets the same gold star".
And this is why the West has so many bloody problems right now - everything is black and white, and the amount of pushing for radical equality is absolutely destructive. There are so many narratives that are pushed, continue to be pushed, but have been debunked so bloody hard it's not even funny: And yet we still see the media giving them the time of day - because it aligns with the agenda.
Ya, Ukraine needs help.
David
Calm down
OK once Ukraine gets back their land l will keep calm OK.@@coasteyscoasteys4150
@@coasteyscoasteys4150 OK l will calm down once Ukraine gets its land back from the thieves that stole it. OK.
David, go and volunteer into the Uke army. They need you.
As a former Air Force General officer I am surprised by his lack of explanation to such an obvious lack? West's utter failure to provide an effective air force to Ukraine was not one of the main reasons for such an ineffective Sunner offensive. plus we have given so few serious tanks and long-range missiles what do you expect to happen?
What you're really saying is that Ukraine had insufficient materiel to ensure a successful counteroffensive but went ahead anyway.
I somehow doubt that was a military decision.
NATO has given Ukraine over 3000 tanks and 5000 APCs in total. That's more than most armies have. More jets for Ukraine will mean Russia will focus more strikes vs airfield hangars. It's not a fight Ukraine can win due to Russia's long range assets inside Russia that can hit anywhere in Ukraine.
@SilverforceX dont explain it to them dude. These people think that ukraine is fighting talibans. Russia is so weak that's why ukraine needs help or putin will not stop in ukraine. This is their ironic logic.
No. But it was a political decision. Imagine what the West would say had they not started an offensive. LOL And, the pols in Ukraine need to worry about the opinion of folks in the west, now don't they.@@cheztaylor8
@@SilverforceXEuropean Union itself has 5 times the gdp of Russia. Ukraine can definitely defeat Russia. Intelligence defeats brawn eventually. Russians do not actually want to be the way Putin insists, but more like Europeans twenty years ago.
Ukraine was never a county of the USSR. Instead, Ukraine was one of the 15 republics of the USSR. According to the constitution of the former USSR, each republic had a right to exit USSR. Ukraine had exercised her right to exit the USSR back in 1991 by a form a referendum. Slava Ukraine!
The point is that Ukraine had only ever been a region within Russia - until the Bolsheviks turned it into a constituent republic of the USSR.
Putin's the master of Vranyo, which describes a story told that both sides know is untrue but nonetheless is responded to as if it were the truth. ( Ukraine is his greatest Vranyo attempt?) 🇺🇦💙🚀🛢️💥=☮️
@@CrankCase08 That is definitely not true
Wrong information, Ukraine dit NOT received the weapons promised. Your argument fail.
Yeah, they need to bring on people with a much more honest appraisal of the West's response- especially the U. S.,. but ALL of NATO was far too little, too late to be decisive, instead of waffling apologists for our losing strategies.
But you are being honest, Mr Bell is not.
Compared to the initially promised equipment, it was a mere pittance. So, don't go around and tell they did not make good use of what they received - This is merely parroting Russian propaganda.
@@ticthak I think you'll find that NATO is not a party to this conflict as Jens Stoltenberg repeatedly reminds us.
exactly, thats what some western experts repeat misleading people
This guy is a defeatist. How is Russia going to fight in Crimea when the Kerch Bridge falls into the ocean and the Black Sea fleet can't operate in the Black Sea?
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easily
This guy is a high skilled military professional…not a journalist.
There are brand new road and rail links via the "land bridge" which Ukraine spectacularly failed to break last year.
@@nunopinho6231 so what? He used to be a highly skilled military professional and that was a long time ago. His opinion differs greatly from the analysis of other military professionals, real ones.
I doubt there's a navy anywhere, including the U.S. navy, that was prepared to fight drones the way Ukraine has deployed them. Thar's a whole lotta larnin' goin' on by navies around the world.
Air Vice-marshal Bell makes the point that Russia cannot seem to co-ordinate forces in order to minimize losses. They have been concentrating on the bling (superior armaments?) while failing on how to most effectively use those assets. This is not a situation which can be corrected anytime soon.
"They gave him (Zelensky) the weapons. He was not able to finish the job." WRONG!!! They gave Ukraine a lot of weapons with a lot of strings attached. They did NOT give enough weapons or enough (any?) advanced weapons to allow Ukraine to even have a chance of succeeding. Damn Republicans.
"Thar's a whole lotta larnin' goin' on by navies around the world." Absolutely! The Ukrainians are probably getting visits from navy representatives from all its allies.
None of those weapons would exist without Republicans. The Democrat party has been pushing for reduced forces and disarmament for generations in the US. I would caution people to not believe anything they’re seeing in mainstream media.
What way has Ukraine deployed them that is so special? Without the intel and resources of NATO, Ukraine couldn't deploy a kite.
@@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv "Without the intel and resources of NATO, Ukraine couldn't deploy a kite." Unquestionably Ukraine is getting NATO intel, particularly US satellite intel. Love it! Highly effective in honing in on Russian command signals. Then -- BOOM! Say goodnight invaders! As for "couldn't deploy a kite" that's a good line for a comedy routine. Might play well in Moscow with an audience of Putinistas. Meanwhile, Russia is having trouble deploying ships. Gosh, it's because of Ukrainians who can't "deploy a kite." 😆😆 😆
The "innovation" in using these drone assets by Ukraine has not only been in the military sphere. It has been in using the intelligence and security services to target and deploy air and sea drones to the best advantage. The sea drones have been hard to counter because they are (relatively) small, and they use a lot of plastics and composite materials that surface search radar have a hard time spotting and tracking to counter, plus you can use several from different directions to target one vessel.
Why did he state that the Russian Black Sea commander Admiral Sokolov was fired recently when he was killed by Ukrainian missiles September 25th? Just mind blowing how detached he is from the war.
Pure speculations USA and others have had a hand in all this!!!!
But we never gave Ukraine the weapons? We gave them NATO doctrine, tactics and advice, which requires air superiority in order to move large formations unobserved, as I understand it? Which today would require drone suppresion as well, and no one has that capability yet? We did not even give Ukraine the planes, and now we are failing to supply the basics like artillery ammunition. This can only embolden Iran, North Korea and others, which will ultimately only make everything so much more expensive for us, already the Houthis are forcing the container ships, which global trade are so entirely dependent on, to take longer routes. I do not understand the arguments here?
Well, I’m afraid the UK military is also a much diminished force. Europe has let its guard down.
Sean Bell consistently reveals a lack of understanding of a ground war; no doubting his experience in the air, but he just doesn't 'get' how it works on the ground. He also displays an astonishing ignorance of historical facts; Russian oblasts went to Ukraine, and Ukrainian ones to Russia.
He's reading a script of CIA/77th Brigade talking points that's all.
@@s0ycapitanHim and his loser cronies never managed to do anything, so how can a country like ukraine possibly succeed.
Territory recaptured is not the only measure of Ukrainian success or failure. Ukraine has taken the war into Russia, quite effectively.! Russia does not control the skies or the sea. This is a crucial point that Bell ignores. Given adequate resources Ukraine could drive Russian aggressors out of Ukraine entirely.
How do you figure that? Who controls the skies and the sea then? Ukraine? With non-existent air force and non-existent navy? What Ukraine is engaged in is generating PR-level pinpricks that have virtually no effect on anything on the ground but do get the media salivating.
You are right and he is a liability.
Holy f you delusional mate. Being delusional is the real danger here as you and the likes of you are condemning Ukraine to a much greater loss and suffering than they already are subjected to.
You're either deluded or misinformed. Russia has absolute dominance of the skies and Black Sea.
what is he smoking? " We gave Ukraine everything and there was no breakthrough", you gave like pretty much nothing of what you should of, no planes no helicopters, small amount of air defense, very few tanks, no ATACMS no TAURUS very little support vehicles be it demining or striker/bushmaster/bradley/cv40, basically no artillery shells, pathetic amount of rifles, and even ammo for these, like wake up and start providing real help, instead of just sending a few bits and bobs and saying "oh we are helping, look at us"
Putin's the master of Vranyo, which describes a story told that both sides know is untrue but nonetheless is responded to as if it were the truth. ( Ukraine is his greatest Vranyo attempt?) 🇺🇦💙🚀🛢️💥=☮️
Ukraine wasn't a county in Soviet union, it was a seperate soviet republic with its own parliament etc.
But ultimately subject to Moscow. It was a semi-autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic.
The term "semi-autonomous" sort of gives it away.
russia 2nd army in ukraine etc
It was NOT a semi-autonomous SSR. It was a co-founder of the United Nations on 26th July 1945. @@dalecrocker3213
And seat in the UN….
Same with Ruzzia, so what.
When did any Western/NATO country last win a major battle without air superiority? Sometime in the 1950's I understand, wish Bell would stop conviently ignoring this fact when he harps on about Ukraine being unable to use ALL the masses of weapons it received to mount a successful counter offensive!
Falklands War 1980's,
It's funny how people think that having jets and tanks would make you a guaranteed win against an enemy who has the same. Lol. Not to mention that if putin use nukes on kyiv people think biden or there are such leaders who would initiate a nuclear exchange lol.
A better way of saying it is : The West and it's militaries have not won any battle since WWII, when the opponent had air superiority. The U S had "air superiority" over most of Vietnam, but did not "win" there due to politics and Hanoi harbor was defended by massive amounts of SAMs... and thus supplies could always be brought in and supply the "guerilla army" operating through the Republic of South Vietnam. Which, now that the Black Sea is not under Russia's control, brings an interesting question of how Ukraine can continue to hold out - if we can ever get enough military supplies together at one time for shipment to Ukraine...
His background is the airforce as well, it’s infuriating every time he glosses over it.
Sean give it a rest!! Nothing you have said has come to pass in Ukraine.
Mr. Bell completely lost me with his ridiculous comment that "Ukraine was a county in the former USSR."
A "county" larger than France? A "county" that (same as Poland) was recognized as a separate nation under the treaty of Brest-Litovsk? A "county" with its own seat in the UN? A "county" with its own language, customs and 1170 year history? If that's the extent of his knowledge about Ukrainian history, I'm not interested in any of his other blatherings.
AGREED! he's an idiot!.
What did he get wrong in your view? The Ukrainian SSR was a separate state in USSR, and 79% of its people speak a different language than Russian. What am I missing?
@@LRRPFco52 well the point…if you didn’t quite get it was that Ukraine has been around long before it was ever invaded by russia & is it’s own identity well apart from russia…it is NOT a former Soviet state as if it was a possession…
The point the russia tries make…
The Slavic word is "oblast" (област in Cyrillic) which doesn't translate directly into English. "County" implies quite a small piece of land to an Englishman or an American; in the case of Ukraine maybe "territory" would be more appropriate, but the translation is never going to be exact.
Just got to the part that triggered you, I think. At about 10:30 he talks about Crimea and how it was given to Ukraine and says it was a county of Russia. He was talking about Crimea being a county, not Ukraine, which becomes clear because he continues the sentence by saying how it (Crimea) was supplied with water and electricity from Ukraine.
But the Lukoil refinery hit caused global oil futures to spike 1% today because the oil industry knows that to build a mega refinery catalytic cracking unit is years, not months of work. What is the scale of this one refinery? Reuters: “Industry sources told Reuters on condition of anonymity that the main crude distillation unit (AVT-6) at NORSI was damaged in the attack, which means that at least half of the refinery's production is halted. Lukoil declined to comment.
NORSI refines about 15.8 million tonnes of Russian crude a year, or 5.8% of total refined crude, according to industry sources.
It also refines about 4.9 million tonnes of gasoline, 11% of Russia's total, 6.4% of diesel fuel, 5.6% of fuel oil and 7.4% of the country's aviation fuel, according to industry sources”.
Ukraine is only now rolling out the new long distance drones it designed and worked on for the last year or so. As of last week 50% of Russia’s mega refineries were within drone range, now the newer ones will have lifted that. If one drone took out nearly 6% of russias refinery capacity… how many drones need to strike lucky before the one thing Russia has that is easily fungible, oil, and raises over 33% of ALL tax receipts is offline. You can access all Russia’s economic data in English and online on the government website. Its own data showed oil & oil products exports down between 30-40%… watch this space… their reporting has been getting delayed over last 6 months (Dec just out) with significant increase in redacted info. I predict reporting will end soon.
If you haven’t watched Joe Bloggs, he does excellent in depth work on the effects of the War on the Russian economy, often using Russia’s own figures against them…
Wow, this is potentially catastrophic for russia. No idea what they could do against this.
Really valuable post here, thanks! So very helpful to have factual information in the discussions!
@@mickdundee2642 I'd caution that Joe Blogs does take a rather tabloid-esque sensationalist approach with his analysis, but yes, he does find some very interesting data.
Thank you for your interesting reply. It's worth noting that Russia has a history of regime failure, it did twice in the last century due to either war or economically when global oil prices collapsed. Having said that the loss of Russian oil capacity that is currently happening could have the opposite effect with prices!
A lot of speculation and unnecessary conjectures. This is the kind of talks that empties morale and create shadows that should not be brought. There are only a few partially good analysis. His assessment of the current situation in the war is poor. He did not remember that Russia does not care about sacrificing hundreds of thousands of men and many thousands of the tanks and vehicles.
The Russians think they have endless political support and endless human and financial resources to throw everything into the fire. Ukraine is not only holding on such waves but biting them up and winning in localized struggles. The war in the end is about whose back is going to break first, Putin’s and his gang or the Western leaders. The sacrifices Putin is imposing on the Russian population is progressively bringing him to breaking point. The dissatisfaction is growing strongly under the appearance of normality. A few millions of destroyed families (with the dead, the seriously handicapped and those who left the country) is a formidable volume of discontent.
@@JoaoCosta-pn9im blablabla
This kind of talk serves no purpose other then to support Russia.
You would rather hear fantasy's would you ?
Another retired UK military leader looking at the war from an antiquated viewpoint with an almost pro-rus attitude. They weren't able to defeat russia during the cold war, so there is no way that a country like ukraine will possibly succeed with anything. Enough of these defeatist boomer losers.
@@lauriew3517 russian talking points aren’t fact…
@@mickdundee2642 Neither are Ukrainian's
@@lauriew3517 in the west where you have freedom of speech, freedom of press, free & open elections, where your political opponents aren’t killed or jailed, where you have the right to protest without fear of being jailed…I’d say I’m taking the word of the West against the tyranny that is putler…you don’t have a leg to stand on…wave your red flag but russia isn’t communism or even socialism…those ideals died long ago…you only now have a dictator in Russia…there is no socialist fairytale…
Living in a free society like I do in Australia I know the difference between good & evil & right & wrong…& putler both is both wrong & evil
Slava Ukraini 🇦🇺🇺🇦🌻
Saint Petersburg trolls out in force again; clearly waiting for the next Times Radio report to drop, yawn!
"Saint Petersburg trolls out in force again" Exactly! Every time! The funny thing is, they think their pro-Putin, pro-war posts aren't dead giveaways.
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The Russian Computer Warfare Institute has a priority list. First, Putin. Second, Ukraine. Third, Zelenskiy. Fourth, Trump.
And they say tinfoil hat wearers are paranoid 😅😅😂, yeah, just like in china 99.9% agree with the regime , well sorry mate we don't all think the same and some may disagree that doesn't make them st petersgrad trolls and why are you scared that people don't agree with the current thing , seen as safe and effective is working out so well
@@thinkerly1The Russian troll farms not only have daily quotas of posts, they also assign propaganda subject matter as you point out.
I believe too many "experts" are focusing on the military experts opinions and fail to recognize the economic impact this war is having on Russia. For example, each time Ukraine strikes a refinery, those parts that were destroyed will need to be rationed as only a few can get through the black market....the list goes on and on. Russia cannot replace its missiles without our technology, they can't replace refinery parts, and in a year or so, both sanitation and clean water will be issues. Russia fooled the West for many years but within in year or two, Russia can either give up and go home or just let the masses starve.
Expat
China supports Russia so no problems
Never tempt Russia to starve its own masses lol
But. Has Hungary forgotten about 1956. The UPRISING Against Russia?
THEY VOTED FOR A DICTATOR HES NOT GOING TO BE OUT OF POWER FOR A LONG TIME
Apparently they like being subjects of Vladimir Putin.
What Orban hasnt forgotten is the balance in his Cayman Islands account deposited by Putin ...
Talking to Hungarians, it seems to be a fault line between Orban and the population.
If there were general elections now we may get rid of Orban. But I still would prefer Russian troops leaving Ukraine before these elections.
YES
I think Democracies must support Ukraine, even if sometime in the future there are talks between Ukraine and Russia, Ukraine must receive a security guarantee with either NATO membership or a mini NATO for Ukraine to prevent Russia from commencing any future war against Ukraine. However I believe Ukraine must be supported to push Russia back to the early 90’s line.
Sean Bell, pretty sure this guy has hand in both camps...pretty hard to launch a successful offensive when you're drip fed weapons & munitions. An offensive that no western army would undertake without combined arms support...meaning having air support/superiority.
What a win looks like is the orcs back out of Ukrainian lands back to 2014.
saying the west gave Ukraine the weapons & did nothing is disingenuous at best.
The West should pull its finger out & give Ukraine what it needs to WIN don't make the mistakes of the past - "Peace in our Times"
Slava Ukraini
Totally disagree with this expert’s analysis! Crimea is the key element of weakening Russia ability both economically and militarily.
This gentleman is very persuasive but don't be persuaded. Only 100,000 Russian troops killed. No one else believes that. What about Ukrainians trapped by Russian forces , the children stolen. He takes the view that Russia is too big to beat. He does not mention Americans departure, not at all. He does not mention slow delivery of weapons. He puts down all Ukraine's efforts like the motions of a fly. Is that true?
You would rather a fantasy then the truth
Pregozhin said there were at least 150,000 Russian forces KIA already last year (he made these comments during the battle for Bakhmut), and there were 22,000 KIA at Bakhmut just from Wagner alone. Prigozhin said there were 50,000 KIA from Russian forces in the Battle for Bakhmut. Wounded in Action just for Bakhmut was at least 60,000 troops fighting on the Russian side.
@@lauriew3517Not quite sure what you are saying? Everybody, Britain, US, Ukraine, and some of the posts gathering evidence, support the greater figure.
I will point out that he feels in ten years time Russia will again be a real threat to Europe-it has a population of 140 million and a degraded economy. No. It will attempt to boast that it is a threat. He claims drone attacks don't amount to much, but isn't that his age as we have already heard that they are striking Russian resources. He claims that Ukraine is losing land again but does not point out that this is only since American support was withdrawn. His fantasy: your truth. I will remind he said similar things before Kerson was taken. He does it at every opportunity. He sees, like you, Russia being more powerful than it is.
@@LRRPFco52 Everyone supports this not this gentleman. I will point out he has been doing this from the beginning. The first attack on Kyiv? Ukraine will not last two weeks. The Ukrainian success before Kyiv. This won't last long. Check it out!
@@lauriew3517 orc talking points aren’t fact only in your delusional putler fanboy mind
Yeah, Russia is toast and rebuild in 5 years, how? No one in the West wants to deal with them, their economy has tanked, their tanks destroyed in the thousands as you say, the 1st Russian tank army is no more, and exemplifies Russia's armored capabilities. which have fallen greatly over the last two, years and that failure is accelerating, to say nothing of their losses at sea and in the air, and their horrific losses in manpower, which are legion.
A rotten economy, citizenry in unrest, attacks into Russia itself, with almost daily destruction of oil, rail, and other war related assets, Russia is reeling.
They done, son.
Btw. their sunken ships are at the bottom of the Black Sea, which is not an ocean. I know that's quibbling.
And also almost every country that buys weapons from them is not putting in orders anymore 😂
Amazing what daaaa
If that were true ukraine's pitiful army...whatever is left of it wouldnt be in a state of constant retreat for months desperate for manpower
Crimea is Ukraine they voted in 1991 for independence that’s the end of it.
@@noyb-gi7nfNot the same people? Another Russian war crime of dispossession of the population and ethnic cleaning of the conquered land.
Irrelevant referundum in Crimea. Russia did an ethnic cleansing before the vote and tricked the vote. Also not indépendant supervision in Crimea for this vote.
Yes - and what people fail to metion that some Ukrainian territories, namely around Taganrog, were given to Russia in exchange for Crimea.
@@noyb-gi7nf Crimea is Ukraine, not because someone "voted" for it, and not because "I said so". Crimea is Ukraine because the people living there see themselves as Ukrainian. Looking deep into the history books, there is hardly any countries in the world who actually exist in their current form. Actually I could argue, that Russia is not a country (which it is) looking into history. But I won't make such a claim as we have come to acknowledge Russia as a Sovereign state. Just like Ukraine. Better?
@@noyb-gi7nf perhaps it’s you that need to check your facts : there was never any public referendum for Crimea to go to Ukraine, the Soviets simply handed it over. You’re an idiot if you didn’t know that.
If Ukraine had been given the weapons it asked for at the beginning of the war and the west hadn’t persistently procrastinated and played political games Ukraine would be a very different situation and the war by now could be coming to an end to a greater degree in Ukraine’s favour.
Ukraine in USSR was not like a county, it was more like a state, and an occupied country.
I don’t wholly agree with Bell’s assessments but he is worth listening to. If we don’t listen to people who disagree with us then we end up like Putin with his three day war. Argue with his analysis not the man.
I must agree, as General George Patton once said. " If we're all thinking alike then somebody's not thinking."
That would be true we’re this fellow less clueless . Others have done a good job listing his many shortcomings, I’ll not repeat them ; this fellow got so much wrong that his opinions only further muddy the waters.
@@yurilytviak9066 I personally really rate Mike Kofman, Mike Clarke and Mike Martin. The Mike drop of the best analysis on Ukraine. Mark Galeotti is great on Russian and Putin.
It feels a bit wrong here, partly Ukraine did not get all the weapons and partly they came far too late and time was very crucial, not least for the time to train with the weapons before they were deployed.
I also don't know if it is a lot to send, for example, 31 Abraham's tanks when you have 8000 of them?
Another thing is exactly that with mass. Some weeks Russia has been shooting 20 thousand schells for two years shooting 5 thousand a week. It should be a wake-up call for countries in Europe that have almost all gotten rid of quantity, expensive tip skills is probably very good if a war lasts a few weeks, but then?
A third thing is that of the countries in Europe, it is about half of them that give very, very little. There is absolutely a point in that every country in Europe should give at least what the USA gives in relation to its GDP, but actually more.
Then if the US stops giving weapons to Ukraine, there is nothing that says we can't buy weapons from them and give them to Ukraine.
I was really expecting a question at 11:40 : "yet Ukraine has never provided any confirmation of shooting down even a single one. Do you think any of this is true?". :D I guess that is too much to ask of Times Radio.
The real problem with losing 2 A-50s is that the Russians have lost 2 highly trained crews. The remaining crew will be needed to train replacements and will therefore not be able to fly combat missions until that is done. They will be out of action for months.
The little boy in the body of this grown up man tells it how he sees it
It is fascinating to hear Sean being all over the place. At one point he is talking about how inept Russian army is, how poor their equipment is. How 'encouraged' his buddies are after seeing all this ineptitude on display. A couple of minutes later he is talking Russia having state of the art equipment and how the West "emptied its war chest" and yet that achieved nothing. Getting mixed signals here! :D
He is an idiot.
Did this guy just say Wales was a county?
lock up trump with putin
😂😂 putin 4 Trump forever 😅😅❤
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Their love child is t-rumpootin.
1000 % with you !!!!
Yes sir
Sean always talks about "the masses of weapons given to Ukraine". Lots of ammunition to be sure, but not enough, not at the right time and not with reliability of supply that you'd need for an offensive campaign. In fact unreliability of supply of ammunition was self-evident from before the Ukrainian counter-offensive began in 2023. Which was the very reason stated for the delay in launching it.
Where was Sean? Because even I remember that like it was yesterday.
Same with weapons. They were delivered within days of the planned start of the offensive with absolutely no time to be incorporated into larger military formations and for joint training and exercises to take place. Many armoured vehicles (e.g. tanks) were non-functional and were sent back. All the things that the Ukrainian's asked for the year before were eventually supplied. But not in sufficient quantities. And usually far too late for the phase of the war that was being conducted.
With the best will in the world, weapon and ammunition supply has been inadequate. Inadequate. But to pretend, as Sean does, that Ukraine had everything they needed that they asked for is disingenuous, to say the least. And I'm being very polite here.
Ukraine asked for HIMARS (which arrived late), ATACMS (which arrived late an only in short range variants unsuitable for attacking the strategic Kerch Bridge), Taurus (not on the horizon), Tanks (1 year late and in the case of Abrams nearly 2 years late and even then only a couple of dozen, while 5000 sit in storage), GLSDB (a year late) and so on. Ukraine wants to use western long range fires to take out supply lines in Russia. Western countries apparently decline permission to do this. While Russia fires Iranian weapons from insider Russa to all parts of Ukraine.
What cheeses me off about Sean is that he makes it sound as if we've been incredibly generous and superficially these seems to be the case. But that's simply not true when you stand back and look under the hood. There clearly has been an attempt to calibrate and drip fired the supply of capabilities to Ukraine in order that Russia doesn't lose this war (and presumably fulfil the fear that it will do something silly). Sean certainly knows his stuff when it comes to all things air force. But in terms of land warfare he's totally out of his depth and, apparently, is at odds with all the army generals in NATO that take a very different view to his.
Sean..mm Jury's out Ukraine we are all with you Respect..
The statement 'Crimea has withstood many world wars' is factually incorrect.
Crimea fell to the Germans in WW2 and fell to the Soviets in WW2.
Today has been a good day!
21:14 “It’s money, not weapons.”
WHAT?? Most of the money we’ve “given” to Ukraine has been in the form of credits ar US defense contractors - yes, we’ve sent SOME cash, but MOST of that aid has been in hardware.
Didn't give the proper equipment when it mattered. Ukraine had russia on the back foot, but stalled so long it allowed russians to create Surovikin line etc., and prolonged the war. Expected Ukraine to fight with Nato tactics, and Didn't supply proper equipment e.g. planes for air superiority!!!!
non toutes les armes n'ont pas été données a temps et certaines a réparés il faut dire la vérité, ensuite aucune armées du monde entier n'auraient attaquer sans aviation
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I will never forget an old Ukrainian guy saying at the start of this in 2022 saying. "I do not want to be Russian, I am Ukrainian". This has stuck with me as a British person for all these months and now years of this horrendous and needless war! All because Vladimir Putin has wardrobe monster, nightmares about NATO? He probably wets the bed in his sleep! Stalin placed Russian families all around the old Soviet borders to ensure he had some kind of, teddy bear comfort of protection. Ask yourselves, does the modern world need Russia stuck in the past, or does Russia need the modern world?
That man doesn't know what he's talking about. He is out cycling
"When you have seen the horrors of war... your role in the military is to be a good deterrent, in other words be so good at your role"... Yep. This is a guy who isn't talking out of his backside. Insight from people like this is absolutely fantastic. I love also the point that militaries are not supposed to be there to fight. They are there to make the fight unnecessary.
Holy, it's frightening to think that people Sean Bell were part of our MoD. This man is ready to throw in the towel at the merest hint of discomfort - a real appeaser.
Russia even five or ten years from now will not be able to recoup its loss of military age manpower. Demographic trends are not easy to change. Additionally, old, Cold War era tanks and artillery will no longer be available to recondition to make good losses. Plus, it’s not as if it will be easy for Russia to get advance technical goods easily.
EU in late 2022: "We will send Ukraine 1 million artillery shells in the next 12 months"
EU in late 2023: "We only managed to give Ukraine under 400,000 shells, sorry"
Sean Bell: "We gave Ukraine all the weapons and money and they didn't finish the job"
It feels like the standards of Russian 'failure' get shifted every time it becomes apparent they aren't going away
Listening to this little fellow talk is like listening to a primary school child explaining to Napoleon how he could easily defeat Russia.
Ukraine should move its weapon factories to neighbouring countries like Poland and Czech republic saving them from Russia destructive capabilities.
neither country would allow it
Inept? You don't say.
This was fun! A weird sensation of Sean occasionally saying some of right things but as if almost by accident as he quickly follows up with a bit of complete nonsense. Still, a slightly more balanced interview than what Times Radio usually features.
"prolonging a war that needs to be stopped" the only person that would benefit as things stand would be Putin himself.
What a goof. the way he pronounced Navalny as "Alexandra" was ridiculous. His name is Alexei.
Disappointing analysis, simply not understanding the war is not won by trading territory.
This may be Putin’s weakness, but we also need to consider Ukraine’s weakness. Mostly that is its reliance on NATO to provide effective support. NATO, especially the USA has never provided the weapons as required to defeat Russia. Arrogance and fear by NATO has underestimated the capacity and determination of Russia and its meat wave attacks.
The individual republics which made up the USSR was not "counties" - I found much of what was said in this interview quite misleading.
British media 🤢🤮🤮
Yeah, RIA Novosti and TASS is much better.😂😂😂
thats why you're hear and not on rutube
Can't describe Russian media they keep telling the truth 😆😆😆😆😆
Ukraine has the backing of the whole of NATO no???
no
What and who does R rebuild with ?
Listening to this gentleman leads one yo believe we've won.
52s in and I feel like I've seen the highlights. Moving on.
Great! You don't need to announce it to the world,
@@heycidskyja4668But neither do you!
Neither do you!
There can be no deals done with Russia. Putin has a track record and guys like this don't realise that Putin won't stop unless we stop him. This is every good mans responsibility now. He'll sing a different song when they're on his own doorstep.
Watched Sean Bell on Sky News where he just gets a few minutes so its great to gear him when he is given much more time. Sean is always balanced - we all want Ukraine to win but we do need to take a realistic long view!
Excellent interview but didn't address the global threat of authoritarianism by trump, putin, orban, etc. Also, that any pause is helpful for putin to rearm.
The only issue I have is you can't trust a thing they say as they did the same in Chechnya agreed to a ceasefire saying they had achieved their aims then soon as they built their stocks back up absolutely levelled the place.
It is also a bit disingenuous to say we gave you all these weapons what have you done when most weren't given in time for the offensive allowing Russia to still field helicopters to attack Ukranian troops and armour while giving no true constant supply of arms. The governments often talk of the threat posed by North Korea and Iran and yet don't step up to make an example of Russia especially where they are trading weapons and knowledge with countries like North Korea.
There is talk of China a country that even Trump has had issue with invading Taiwan yet all this make it seem as though The West is half hearted and wishy-washy in their support.
We have fertiliser and chemical plants that are sat mothballed and a steel industry in need of help if Ukraine need shells why can't the government step in and adapt these to produce the products needed while cutting down on unemployment and securing the jobs in areas that are in need of them.
I thought it idiocy of Republican Senators moaning and whining about the aid being given to Ukraine, the unaccounablity and lack of following the money when the majority is spent in their states employing their electorate to produce new up to date weapons and munitions for themselves while selling the older stock to Ukraine as aid which would cost more to decomission than it does to send it to Ukraine to be used.
During the Second World War while isolated and struggling to keep Germany at bay we improvised and worked at producing our own arms and came up with new ways to adapt and improve on designs now it seems we have given up most of that ingenuity instead just throwing money at foreign companies or selling our own off. We spend millions developing expensive systems to shoot down cheap drones while they look at producing cheaper ways of doing so allowing them to spend less than Russia to deal with them.
It is all well and good stating that Russia's miltary is just all show but Ukraine have shown with their drones and the new artifical reefs in the Black Sea and their long range drone attacks that their expertise is not and if we leave them abandoned we are handing Russia those very same engineers and developers while leaving them a sense of betrayal.
Perhaps rather than just finger wagging at Trump they should remind him of recent history as the only country to invoke Article 5 is America when the Republican did so and it was those countries he defecated on with his speech that answered their call and stood shoulder to shoulder with them sacificing their own people so that America could feel safe once more and to show that when you attack one you attack all. It is nice to know the Republicans as a party have stooped to such lows that they spit on the sacrifice of those who answered their call and gave their lives for them to avenge those who died on 9/11 especially those who themselves have served with so few speaking out against it.
Not that it seems as though our own government seems to remember that it wasn't that many decades ago that we were on the cusp of being in Ukraine's position but was only by the aid and sacrifice of others who heeded our call.
why you are saying you gave Ukraine all the weapons for their counteroffensive? What exactly you gave them? Anybody knows? I do not !
He has no idea what he is talking about.
That's because you are lazy to look it up. Approximately 50 HIMARS launchers, 300 tanks and exactly 186 Bradleys were given to Ukraine for the counteroffensive, plus their ageing airforce has been equipped with long range missiles Storm Shadow and Scalp. There was a very naive belief in the West that the Russian troops would run away upon seeing superior NATO weapons. Unfortunately the Russians just destroyed them instead.
@@Nick_S0 even if that was true and its not... thats funny numbers for a counteroffensive. 50 himmars only in your dreams, more like... no himmars at all, 1/5 of the artillery shells they needed and few tanks just for the show. Also there was no such belief in the west, that is your personal beliefe
It is quite depressing hear this things in Ukraine...
At first glance I thought the MoD guy was Michael Barrymore 😂
Who he? I don’t think I like him 🇺🇦
He's an idiot
Have sean bell heard what was said when trump meet orban?? as a a expert sean have realy little knowlege about the Russian mind set..
Or much of anything actually.
Excellent commentary giving hope and explaining things to me.
There's no cure for arrogance or narcissism....
Wow… This kind of arrogant thinking is what causes us to be so helpless to actually help Ukraine out!
The UK wouldn’t last a month against Russia! We don’t have the amount of weapons and surely the amount of munitions.
Not to speak about the fear of losing soldiers.
As long as we keep ignoring our mistakes we will surprised by the pain Russia, even now, is able to inflict on the West. Yes we overestimated the strength of the Russian army. But don’t underestimate the power of the Russian state that switched to a war economy 1,5 years ago . The West, in the meantime is mostly still discussing if we might up our Defence spending from 2% to 2.001%. Might I suggest upping that to at least 3-4% the coming decade…
Ukraine was a republic in the Soviet Union, not a "county"....
Really? And before that?
Just like Russia. Iit was not a country until 1991.
And crimea is not county but one of Ukraine regions
There's a recurring thing with this radio/podcast where i hear phrases at one point in the video, then towards the end ihear it all over again. Whats this? It doesnt sound like the clip is on repeat either
Good lord.... every time Bell makes me question if hes backed by Russia 🤦♀️
Question. What's happened to Gerasimov? We've seen or heard nothing for weeks
He's in a meeting with Solokov and Prigohzin.
There was video of him lately but what does it matter anyway? Whether its Gerasimov or Mickey Mouse.
@@peterflohr7827 I guess that they're both part of Disney world.
It was catherine the great that conquered Crimea
Catherine took the credit. The Cossacks did the work.
It's Catherine the Great with capital letters. Let's not forget that Catherine pushed the Ottoman turks out of Crimea - not some historical Ukrainian inhabitants lol.
I wonder if anyone from the MOD is listening. Without the troops, trained to the standard the UK has always trained its troops, we are sunk.
Russian Bear’s got its head stuck in the honey jar!
And, if Russia wins, what happens to the rest of Eastern Europe? Especially Poland. Latvia, Lithuania, etc?
Nothing. With the exception of Moldova and Belarus, they're all members of NATO. How long do you think Russia's depleted resources would last against retaliation from The UK, USA, Germany, Finland and Sweden?
🤡 man again! Same bloke that said in 2022 that Ukraine should negotiate with Russia!
and if they had they would be in a much better state than they are now
In february 2024, Germany hit 2% gdp in nato contribution, france is still less. Bit france is nuclear armed so they feel braver
Fascinating to listen to Sean Bell and Michael Clarke discussing the war in Ukraine. That being said, I do look forward to the day when we don’t hear from these guys though…. i say that respectfully
when has a megalomaniac been adept?
Is that true? Russia hits Ukraine factories, but Ukraine can’t hit the Russian factories?
Ukraine can hit Russia with their own weapons. However Nato does not want Ukraine to do that with the the weapons from the west.
Marvellous programme,host and guest Absolutely top drawer,..007,..
what he conveniently leaves out is that 2% nato money that was agreed in 2014 was only scheduled to be in place by the end of 2024!
Slava Ukraine!❤❤❤
For God's sake, he west needs to give Ukraine what they need, now!
Why?
There doing deals under the table it's all lies 😂
@@davidjames4057 Duh, why do you think?
@@willkerslake8820 For myself, I am fed up paying for wars that either we are causing, backing the wrong side or both. If you think that is a view held by a small minority, given that all political parties are keen on the war as is the media, I do not blame you. I respect view and your right to have it. However, I would disagree that support for Ukraine is a no-brainer, which might be your position?
So the Commander is a war criminal? Nice
The political system in UK is rotten 😂😂😂😂😂