Chris Evert d. Arantxa Sanchez Vicario -1988 Eckerd Open Final
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2013
- One year from Chrissie's retirement but also one year before Sanchez Vicario won the French Open, an interesting view into the potential rivalry between these 2 players, in likely Sanchez-Vicario's first appearance on national TV in the United States.Just a month later, Chris would suffer a heel spur, which derailed her through most of May & June, including a 3rd round loss to Sanchez at the French. Sadly, those were the only 2 times these players met.
Barry McKay and Wendy Turnbull provide commentary, with footage provided by chris evert.net. - Спорт
Arantxa is a great champ. As for Chris, it amazes that people make the mistake of calling her a counter-puncher. The pace of the game in the 70s-80s was slower, certainly, but start to finish, Evert was a dictator from the baseline. Always. Highly aggressive tactician. And underrated all-courter, too.
Arantxa Sanchez - the greatest public park hacker who ever played tennis.
Michael Brennan why? I dont understand it, sorry
@@dmbunny8000 Arantxa beat Evert, Navratilova, Graf, Seles, Serena, Venus, Sabatini, Davenport and Hingis...she was not very powerful but she ran down every possible shot.
Vicario hits every ball with topspin right down the middle of the court tempting her opponent to make unforced errors trying to create angles that are not there and tiring them out . On clay with a in form Evert , this tactic didn’t work . Chris had more of an attacking game developed in her chase of Martina and takes calculated risks wisely changing the angles and depth of her shots to lull vicario in to errors .
Evert had already expressed frustration with the new line of young baseliners coming up. She stated she did not have the patience for a lot of that heavy topspin and loops anymore. This is exactly the kind of game she was talking about and clay was probably no longer her best surface despite a few more tournament wins on Har-tru. It did make her more willing to be bold, creative and hard-hitting to end points. Her net game was in fine form.
The off the ball (post strike) movement of Evert was brilliant.
Chris's stroke mechanics were classic, but you'd never teach anyone to hit the ball like that these days. It's notable on some of the points that one of Evert's weaknesses becomes apparent. She finds it very difficult to deal with very high bouncing, topspin shots. She grew up in the era of wooden racquets when nobody hit like that, and her game was based on letting the ball drop rather than moving in to take it early. You can see Evert really backing off behind the baseline to let some of Sanchez's high bouncing topspin shots drop into her hitting zone here. There was a famous point at the US open in 1989 when Monica Seles hit a heavy topspin moonball to Evert, and Evert backed up so much that she got stuck against the stands and the ball bounced right over her head. Modern players would have moved right in and tried to take the ball on the rise, or drive volley it.
You have some interesting points, but I disagree. A modern Evert would learn to adjust. The great ones always do. Heavy topspinners have gone the way of the dodo anyway. Everyone hits hard and flat now, which would fit right into Evert's strike zone. No one hits those crazy moonballs. You would get laughed right off the court. Girls did it against Chris because they knew it drove her crazy. She stated several times that she was tired of hitting against moonballs. That's like sending out an invitation to hit them. . Regarding the classic strokes. Martina Hingis did not hit any harder than Chris and she had tremendous records against the heavy hitters. Best records against the Williams sisters by far.
Evert still beat these moon ballers though. Sanchez here and Seles who moonballed her to death at US open. So your point is moot.
@@yussepig6629she lost to Sanchez Vicario in their next match at the French open and Chris said Arantxa "moon balled her to death". Chris lost matches to Gabriela Sabatini for similar reasons - and the Houston final to Monica Seles that way too
@@jm7804which is why I said of Chris's strokes that "you'd never teach anyone to hit like that now". Her whole stroke mechanics would be different if she'd been playing today. The point was that her stroke mechanics left her vulnerable to heavy topspin, because she developed them in an era when nobody hit with topspin. She herself has talked about how she used to let the ball drop. I can guarantee though that if she showed up on the tour these days playing with those strokes, you'd find players suddenly hitting with more topspin to her. They aren't stupid. They all know about weaknesses in the other players' games. I mean, even Steffi Graf started hitting some higher rollers to Chris in their later matches.
Chris is the best thinker strategist of ALL time. Also an underrated volleyer
If Chris played the Australian Open in the late 70's,...She missed because of Christmas in the US...she would easily own the record for the most Slams instead of Margaret Court....Back then, Grand Slams were not nearly as important as they are now.
and what's all this stuff that Chris Evert wasn't as good an athlete? Aerobically she could keep up with anyone…the long rallies…got to every ball. In my book…a terrific athlete.
Yes, very true mj, Chris was like a most naturally talented ballet dancer - just so fluid on the tennis court. Billie Jean (who absolutely liked and admired Chris) once wrote that she would (in a friendly way) chide Chris (1970's) and tell her how "athletic" she looked after any given match. Billie stated that Chris would look at her and say, "Really, do you think so?" Later, during her years of going against Martina, Chris would delve into that "athletic" side of hers - to some wonderful success.
Towards the end of Chris's career she truly had great technique and timing and a great net game... the trifecta of a great champion
She had some definite limitations in her stroke mechanics though, most notably when dealing with high, heavy topspin balls. She'd learned her tennis in the days of wooden racquets when nobody hit the ball like that. As a result, her game was based on letting the ball drop rather than moving in and taking the ball early. There was a famous point at the us open in 1983 when Monica Seles hit a high topspin moonball to Chris and Chris moved so far back to let the ball drop that she ended stuck up against the stands and the ball bounced right over her head
Chris the legend
Really enjoy watching Christie’s courtcraft. Arantxa’s endless loopy defence was cut through by Chris’s firm strokes, beautiful angles, placement and set up. Sadly powerplay destroyed the thought and tactics in tennis after Chris left.
It was caused heavily by there being no equipment regulations ever to be implemented.
Soon after, yes Graf hit hard and still had pretty good strategy and imo the goat. But The Williams dudes ruined women's tennis at least mostly. I can't even watch women now. It's just hut it as hard as u can til u miss. Putrid. No one ever constructed points better than Chrissie. That's why she had 18GS and could of had 1 or 2 more and retired a little early. And still has the most titles and could've kept playing for another yr or 2 and had 3 or 4 more titles.
Chris Evert was such a "clean hitter" of the ball.
Great ball striker.
Very precise. You'd never teach anyone to hit the ball like she did these days though. It would have been interesting to see how she would have hit the ball if she'd learned her strokes these days.
you would see a different player.same or better mental strength but different strokes@@th8257
Towards the end of Chris's career, you can see Chris did not want to play all day long, which made her hit out more and made her a better all around player. Great net game, Chris
Yep it's was an older player has to do to win. You won't win at 33 trying to outlast someone half your age. Chris though less consistent played some her very best matches in her final couple of years. She just went for it
Underrated volleyer. Rarely missed
Thanks for posting; all these Chris gems are so much fun to watch. So few players have made our sport look so efficient and effortless to play. The hands, the feet, the mind - they all came together and out pops Chris Evert.
Loved it.
Who Said Chrissie can't volley or has a mediocre overhead? I don't think I have seen her have such an all-court game as in this match!!! LOVE her!
These are two clay court specialist and they come to the net so often (Arantxa serve&volleying too!). Today's women players are only able to stick on the baseline and stroke the ball stronger and stronger
LOL...yeah you mean today rackets...which is why no on serves and volleys, and no one come to net unless their opponent is off the court.
That youth exuberance we see in the spaniard, running for shots most wouldn't and a playful attitude towards the match. Ya know that never really left her! A professional attitude to win, never translated into a personality that could not smile or laugh on court.
Sanchez puts up a fight sending every ball back with a wide safety margin ( staying clear of the lines ) forcing Evert to create points instead of responding to the problems her opponent presents . This drives evert nuts and why I believe toward the end of her career she no longer enjoyed long baseline rallies with gals half her age . She lost her last French match to Sanchez in 88 with a bone spur in her foot . Sanchez beat Graf in following French final 89 so although at the time it was considered a bad loss for Chris , it really wasn't . Even injured she almost pulled out that second set. This match Chris was drained but her pride came through and she was fatigued but not injured. Sanchez and Amanda Coeztner were the only two players that could chase down grass shots . Steffi had no patience for long rallies . Chris concentrated like a. Heart surgeon , probing for any glitches in her opponents strike zone ! Evert had great spatial capacity which over the years of practice became second nature like typing - your fingers know where the letters are before your brain consciously recalls wher on he keyboard where the letters are . Her instincts told her she was in for a little long day and no doubt knowing her heel spur And the human backboard Sanchez was played a role in losing to her at French. Sanchez had real talent physically but her true talent was her never give up fortitude. You never give up and your never a loser.
Sanchez in 89 was way better than 88. Had she played Graf at the 88 French, she probably gets only 1 or 2 games. Although Graf was also in better form at the 88 French than the 89 French, probably her poorest tournament form wise of the entire 89.
@ Leo Light ASV's forehand is not ugly at all. It's the typical top spin forehand used by clay court specialist
It is ugly - most clay courters do not jump a foot into the air when hitting in nor leave it until it is 2 inches from their arses before striking the ball. Still, S-V was a first class moonball hacker. Very little natural talent
' who said Chris cant volley ' -Bud Collins
Good timing for Arantxa that Chris was already that old... :) Chris was a bigger wall of error-free consistency than anyone, but she was already pretty impatient by 87-89 & didnt even prefer clay anymore, which really is quite something considering her clay court records!
Sanchez was 15 here and in her 1st or 2nd year on tour. Hardly anywhere near her prime either. In fact her prime was really 92-98 (minus 97 which was an awful year for her), with her peak being 94- mid 96, despite her shock RG win in 89.
Arantxa siempre dándolo todo!!!! La.mejor tenista española de todos los tiempos!!!! Arantxa llego a jugar 10 finales de Gram Slam, ganando 4. N1.....
Grandes las dos, pero me quedo con Evert. 23 años de diferencia
Great ground strokes of Chris Evert & counter punisher of the game.
I've been a huge ASV fan for over 20 years but even I find it funny when I hear a commentator talk about Arantxa's 'dangerous forehand'!!
+Jonny Jobes Yeah, nothing dangerous about it at all! lol
Jonny Jobes 😀
When she was tight, she pushed that forehand.
It's interesting isn't it how perceptions change over time. I think in the context of 1988, when there were very few players who could hit really hard and put consistent pressure on ASV's forehand, it meant that she had much more time and could get some great angles with that forehand. It was only really in later years when power hitters the likes of Monica Seles really broke through that ASV's forehand looked like a really consistent problem
Evert was injured.
que Jovencita Arantxa.,. Empezaba pegando Fuerte.,.¡¡¡
I think if they played this match a year later (1989), Evert would not have the stamina or strength to stop a charging Sanchez-Vicario. Good timing for Chris to play this match in 1988, when Arancha's game was still growing. Sanchez-Vicario's game would gain strength and speed throughout 1988 and 1989, when she won her first of three French Open titles. Her game is suited to clay. If this match went 3 sets, doubt Chris would have the stamina to hold up, so good for her she won in straights.
Evert never should have lost to Sanchez, this shows as much
Evert looks like Capriati here.
Evert's father taught Capriati for a short period of time.
Compere to players today or since 2000th, this is like slow motion.
Gran juego pero mejor Chris
I think you're right. Chrisse at the top of her game only really came to the net to shake hands, as she could command the way play went and grind her oppo down til they erred or spot if they were wrong-footed + go for stop volley,a shot she excelled at, but rarely used.
I'm not sure impatient is right word,she always liked to get wins under belt ASAP.She was thinking about Andy,+life after tennis for 1st time.She was,rightly angry @ "that" awful match point in W'don SF v Martina.
Rubbish, Chris came to net plenty most notably during her AO and Wimbledon matches.
But some days she wasn’t in the mood.
@@yussepig6629 It's weird to see this; it was 'penned' during an 11month hospital stay (I'm ex-forces, & was medically discharged).
Like most of my comments from those days (I was on a morphine pump & part sedated)I didn't convey my full point, well. 🤭🤪
There was a 'saying' more of a joke, that CME herself said: She preferred/was more comfortable coming to the net to shake hands(some said to collect prize), than to play.
Obviously, she could & did come to the net, as you say, particularly on grass.
She said she preferred commanding from the baseline. She was so dominant, her arsenal was working, so there was no real motivation to change, her winning formula.
Post retiral, she notes, that when some players tried to emulate her style, & the pace & athleticism required to be #1 increased, that she added to her strength by coming to the net, more often.
As I said, her passing shots & volleys (esp stop volleys), were amongst her great strengths that she's rarely credited.
I don't think any player could win 18 GS & maintained her consistency, if they had real gaps, in their game (like playing well @ the net).
I meant no ill will, & sought no controversy.
It's odd, that I can remember making a comment 8yrs ago, particularly, when I was so medicated.
lol.
Thanks for your reply @ KLM, nice to know you recovered from your hospital bed. Hope you are ok now.
I watch a lot of Chrissie matches where here net play has been critical even clay (remember her winning volley at FO match point 1986?). At AO 1982 she was at net half the time almost. I know Chris plays down her net prowess (she always plays herself down these days) but it was an important part of her game for certain opponents and moments.
@@yussepig6629 Thank you. I'm doing a lot better.
Yes, she's gracious, humble & funny. I love her. She's had a tough few years, but always got time to have a laugh.
If she'd been afraid of/weak @ the net, the h2h with Martina would've been very different.
I don't think the women's game was ever better. Obviously Serena is incredible, but it's a very different game now.
My 1st W memory, is her winning in '81. I was only 6, but Wimbledon was a *big* deal, in our house(my Dad had been a tennis coach).
Apart from Wimbledon, very few tournaments were televised, in UK(Scotland). We saw highlights of other GS, on TV, but I listened to USO on radio, during the night (usually school nights lol)& remember her winning there. Until internet, we could only read about other matches.
Thanks for your kind words. Hope you're having a nice Saturday! #ForerverEvert
I think my first was the 1980 (I think) Wimbledon where Evonne got her. I was a kid too but really upset she lost so when she won in 1981 I was made up😀🏆
This is patty-cake tennis.
Very different era. Let's not forget that someone like Chris would have learned her basic tennis in the 1960s and her fundamental game was based on the patterns of tennis player then. You'd never teach anyone now for example to use the stroke mechanics that Chris used, and very few people use the same grips. Arantxa's basic game has more of the early 80s about it - sort of a Mats Wilander style of play.
What a dumbass statement
I have seen both play live. They hit the ball very hard for their time and moved beautifully. Evert hit a very clean, precise ball. Sanchez Vicario has wins against Serena, Graf, and many of the greats, so to call this patty-cake tennis is questionable at best.
I think people just didnt like her playing style much mostly.
I'm not buying the Chrissie injury theory for her loss to Arantxa at Roland Garros. Sanchez simply outplayed Chrissie at Roland Garros, and that is what led Chrissie to not even try for the French Open the following year. She had lost a step and knew that a seri0ous newcomer could derail her.
Who cares whether your buying it or not.... she had to get a cortisone injection in her heel before the match. That how much pain she was in, and that numbs the feet, you could see during the match she wasn't able to step into her backhand.
I saw the match as well and didn't see what you claim you saw. The truth was that Chrissie was getting older and the young "buckettes" were nipping at her heels. She lost to Judith Wiesner in Lugano, and wisely chose to avoid Roland Garros the following year, so as to keep her winning % up. She is very statistic oriented.
Verbal Volley She was injured.
She was injured for 2 months. This comment is ridiculous.
Verbal Volley that’s total BS - Chris had a heel spur that hampered her movement and ability to drive the ball deep and hard. She did not play the French in 1989 because she wanted to concentrate on a final Wimbledon appearance but suffered an ear infection during eastbourne which she had to withdrawal , and couldn’t practice on the grass until after her first round win at W . Chris never avoided a tournament because of a player least of all vicario.