@@TheSandramae25 it was just weird and what man was sit back and said another man watch him have sex not only have sex have sex with the mother of your child and publicly talk about it on a worldwide website the website get the views that’s embarrassing to your baby mom and your child
R. Kelly doesn't even sound like Aaron Hall musically, but let's talk about how Aaron Hall completely stole Charlie Wilson's style from the Gap Band. 🤷♂
A 16 year old Gloria was standing with a Jamaican rapper we no longer know. Why isn't she calling him out? Why wasn't Gloria at home doing homework? She was bragging about being in the studio when a song was made. Her mother appeared present when the baby was born. She thought she was on the come up, but Aaron was not it, to her disappointment.
I ain't saying I condone his or Diddy's behavior but what about the white rock & roll counterparts ? Ranging from Elvis all the down to Clive Davis who has been doing the exact same thing for decades and never seen a day in jail. As well as these kids parents they should be locked up too. Bow Wow recently said his parents gave him to Snoop when he was 5years old. That shyt is insane.
@@MrMongoslade100here we go with the white ppl do it too excuse so just because white got away with so should the black man such a ridiculous take & excuse ew
I ran the streets in my day and did plenty of dirt but that never stopped me from being in my kids lives all their life so Aaron I don't buy all the "I didn't want my kids to see my street side" that's straight bullshit. ✌🏿
You are concerned more about why she was "allowed" to be there -then the fact that these predators most likely invited and preyed on her? People with money find ways to lure in victims.
@carmensaify Not more concerned about why, the fact that she was allowed to be there in the first place unsupervised is a valid concern. It's equivalent to letting a teen in a bar.
@hwelsh64 no, he isn't. This is old news that has been talked about for decades. Someone way more richer and more powerful took Sean Combs down. They don't care about low-level guys like Hall.
It’s who you prefer, but no. Aaron had the ‘Stevie/Charlie Wilson range and riffs with some Daryl Coley gospel runs. Kelly took his style and eventually got his own voice but never had as much of the extra. Kelly can still sing though, Aaron lost it!
I worked with Teddy, Aaron and Damion, and Aaron had asked me to pick up some photos and other items that he left in a Hotel, this was back in the early 80' late 90's. As in this interview Aaron bragged about his sexual exploits and how he gets down. Also, he called Teddy a square, well if you know Teddy, he is soft spoken, studious, deep thinker and does not have that street edge, he is a really nice dude. But everyone has their moments to be Grimy!
Hearing someone call you a square, should be a compliment. As it gives insight what and who they’ve chosen to be to make them stand out. Plus real grimy behavior doesn’t require said person to be “street” or whatever thug.
@@junglekutz5625low key...most street dudes would rather be squares. **Teddy produced Michael Jackson "dangerous" album. That's what a so called "square" did 🏆. Teddy is the inventer of the new jack swing sound/trend and era. I'd rather be a square ☝🏾.
@@junglekutz5625 Please speak on it 🙌🙌🙌 Black people’s thought process and conditioning is tragic. Any and everything low vibrational, destructive, etc., is associated with “blackness” and deviation from that, a person is a square or cornball. Sad. Well the proof is in the pudding as we see just watching this video.
R Kelly stealing from Aaron Hall: Is it steeling when you did it better than the original? 🤔 Gloria Velez: Luke of the 2Live Crew warned Aaron Hall about her. Apparently, was no innocent Angel herself. A roach may be dirtier than a rat but both are still nasty. Neither of them were innocent or blameless.
@ it does matter. Being a minor doesn’t give you a pass from stupidity and promiscuous behavior. Sorry but she is old enough to be accountable for her decisions. Not excusing his actions, and no excusing hers either. She was not 12 she was 16 and at an adult rap party with the 2 Live Crew of all people. She was there of her own free will. She certainly was no angel. No empathy for her here.
How you think Kobe got young ass Vanessa??! At 16, she too was all in the videos, at snoops video shoot dancing and carrying on. Some chicks especially those of that kind that be their MO...young as hell tryna trap a grown rich man like Vanessa cuz when she got pregnant her parents made Kobe marry her when she got legal age. Vanessa held on to Kobe for dear LIFE and never did anything but follow Kobe around and buss out his kids. I have more respect for Simone LL wife, she really been there for LL, shante snoop wife REALLY BEEN THERE FOR LL...she runs snoops business and manages him. Most Hollywood wives come up with some kind of business and job and not just live lavish off their rich man. Not Vanessa. Kobe shoulda stayed with brandy. At least brandy had and brought more to Kobe table than looks and being a "exotic" Hispanic. Vanessa KNEW what she was doing just like Gloria. Vanessa give me "Mrs. Debbie" from Addams family values. The gold digger that married uncle fester but NEVER loved him. Vanessa loved the lifestyle. She probably never knew the real Kobe. Damn smh
@Mone333Williams she was 17 and on the set a music video. Kobe was not much older than her. He was about 20 or 21. Aaron Hall was already in his 30s. Aaron Hall was already a creep. Kobe met Vanessa, married her and stayed with her until death. Let's not Compare Kobe to Aaron Hall. That's an insult to his character. And let's not compare Vanessa to Gloria. Gloria was a hoe. Vanessa has never been known to be a hoe.
He's such a dusty & a deadbeat dad. I've known about this story since the 90's. He should have left Gloria alone when he found out that she was 16. Disgusting & he can't sing live anymore! His voice is goneee!!!😮😂
I'm not excusing predatory behavior but I am giving a side eye to juvenile females being an adult situations without adult supervision and wondering how no one knew they were not juveniles. He did not pick her up at school or a girl scout function. He saw her at a hotel with another adult male
I'am a a true fan of "The King OF New Jack Swing B/K/A: Mr. Teddy Riley love you so much . Shout-out to the group Guy those were the days aint no music like the music from the 80s and 90s . 😊😊😊😊
The same Gloria Velez from the Big Pimpin video that was poppin p all over the industry? Where was all this moral footing back then??? She was with it all!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean she was a child when she started.. She doesn’t deserve respect though smh respectability Olympics is crazy …. Can’t grow up and have a past I guess
I don't think they sounded the same, but in my opinion Kelly copied Aaron's look, the bald head and shades, style and swag. Aaron does Sound like Charlie though.
Idk....😅 Between "groove me" and "she's got that vibe" it's the same uptempo new jack SWING. Honey love vs let's chill??? Idk 😅😅😅 But do I prefer r. Kelly over Aaron YES! (All the way around). Potato salad or tuna salad? Both salads taste GOODT ☺️but which one would you prefer? Potato salad of course ❤😂✊🏾. That 12 play, "R" album and "you are not alone" song period🤌🏾was a moment in history. Teddy produced Michael Jackson "Dangerous" album another super epic moments in music history...but HIStory album by MJ, r. Kelly just did one song. You think Russians, ppl in Indonesia..in Germany...in Nigeria..in Italy or Romania know "groove me, Teddy's jam, let's chill" by Aaron hall and GUY 😅... Hell no, but they damn sure know "you are not alone" written by r. Kelly for the king of pop. Even in 2024 MFS KNOW that MJ song..mostly by heart ..if you not from the 80s early 90s then GUY is a "who" to you compared to r.kelly.
Yo! People after reading most of your comments, y'all seem to forget Aaron Halls nickname from his days with Guy which was Aaron "NASTY MAN" Hall. Nasty by name, Nasty by nature. I'm just saying. Junior from London 😎🇬🇧🇬🇧🇯🇲🇯🇲
i saw an interview with Tim Gatling, the original 3rd member of Guy, He said Aaron Hall would only be a member of Guy if Teddy joined,...now he calls him a square and drops the Fuk you? Teddy Riley created a whole new genre of music. His sound influenced a new generation of producers. Aaron went solo and had it not been for the Bomb Squad , he would not have had those couple of hits that he has.
Teddy wanted Kelly to lead sing for guy and Aaron was a poor man version. Aaron could never hold a candle to Kelly and the careers prove it. No comparison at all not even close 😆
I never understood this story. I remember him beating that gurl back in the 90s. She was only 15 when they met. The police were involved when it came to domestic violence. But he never faced statutory rape charges!!! He lived in Florida, where the legal age of consent is 18. This girl gave birth at 16 or 17 to his child!!! HOW!?!?!?🤔🤨🤬
Y'all act as if this is so strange. This is more normal and even worldwide. They only go after you more so when you are wealthy and people hate you, jealous of you and want to take you down. Nothing to be shocked about.
I was a DJ back in the late 80s and 90s man they had this event called the (BRC) black radio convention this was a place to show your talent big artists would be there at them parties man i seen shit that made me turn away from the music business
Me too when I went to Cali back in 95'. I turned 21 and went out to the clubs where the celebrities were at , and all I saw was shady weirdo $#*+. Cutthroats, gangstaz, gangbangers, trannies, f@&&ots, super dikes and a whole evil vibe all over these certain venues. My Auntie's ex guy ( who played in Martin, Hoodlum, 100 kilos etc.) asked me now that I got to be exposed to the life do I still want to get into the music business? I said it loud as F--- "Heeelllllll Nawww!" SMH🤦
Yes, thank u . Everyone in the comments is just worried about who stole who's style. But no one, but u spoke about Aaron Hall being with a 16, 14, at his age back then. There is something wrong here. It's becoming the new norm.🫢🫢sad, 🌎 we live in.
It’s sad how much victim shaming goes on & that is why some victims wait years to tell or never tell! They were being abused exposed drugged violated and exploited.
Gloria Valdez was not a victim here. People really need to do some research for themselves. She was never a victim.She willingly made a conscious decision to do what she did. We have to stop acting like these women was unwillingly victims.
Both Arron Hall & Kels was fire......2 different voice but managed by the same dude yet fire......no matter who didn't like ie it.......but Kels took Arron's look & style even though his voice was smoother,Teddy Riley was part of it in a major way......yall check the history behind these cats.
Bull shit. Everyone keeps.making up all these stories about 2pac. Like 2pac was a saint. Pac was a talented man and a deep thinker at times, but bullshit. He didn't save her. She was no victim she was a more than willing participant. And these 2pac fairytales need to stop. Next people gonna say 2pac saved 30 people from a burning building. There's a new 2pac story made up everythat never happened when he was alive. That man was great as he was. There is no need to make up additional stories to tey and elevate him to Saint Status. Let him rest in peace and stopp the lies.
@@flashcardsthebeautifulj5632 Another made up story about 2 Pac. None of these stories were out when he was alive or shortly after his death. People make up stories about him all the time. Yes, he was a talented rapper and actor but people are trying to elevate him to Saint Status by making up these 2Pac Fairytales. 🧚 2Pac is already a great performer who made an enormous impact. There is no need to fluff his resume with fake stories.
You don't understand what he's saying. There was sex in both their eyes and there was no need to talk, they just went and did that thang. It's exactly what happens with one night stands and most people are acting so self righteous like he raped her. She could have said no. Yes she was 16 but she was old enough to hang with grown men alone? Looking for what? What happened to Liza Gardener and Gloria Velez is called statutory rape (sex with a minor). Laiza Gardner also experienced was a gang rape as she was drugged.
So no one is going to ask why 16 year old Gloria Velez was at an adult rap party? You go looking for trouble and you're going to find it. I don't wanna hear no excuses.
she was a video vixen back in the day at the age of 16... IDK why put back in the day all the rappers had nothing but 16 year olds as their main lady in their videos. I know off hand I was in class in high school with the girl in a usher and piddy video, then she was in another rap video with a rapper who was started in Love and hiphop realty show.
I think it’s a older man or older woman’s responsibility to find out how old the person is because they can sneak into a adult parties ( nothing knew) or they can have fake IDs and that’s why you shouldn’t be so rushed to take them to bed or relationships/ find out / extreme vetting the person ( pause) on anything there no excuses etc
@@MsBajanSensationthese older men aren’t stupid it’s their responsibility to ask questions and find out how old these young women are and if it’s extreme vetting so be it/ information technology or paid background checks etc
Why do parents allow a 16 year old a 21 and up party? Those parties are not made for a 16 year old. Her parents should be locked up. I feel so sorry for these girls
SIMPLE MONEY TALKS THESE PARENTS WERE OR GUARDIANS WERE GIVEN MONEY AND PROSITUTED THEIR OWN CHILDREN NOTHING NEW GREEDY MONSTERS LIKE CAR MIRROR CAUTION SAYS THEY MAY APPEAR CLOSER THAN YOU THINK YOUR ENEMY IS MOSTLY SOMEONE YOU KNOW😱😡😡😡 MAY THE VICTIMS OVERCOME THESE CHALLENGES AND LET THEIR ENEMIES NOT WIN!!!
You're looking at it in today's time. He met Gloria in his time with the group GUY.. so that would be in the late 80's.The World was different back then and before. I don't know how old you are but they didn't have parental advisory on anything untill 1988 so anytime before then kids would be around adults all the time.( I was 13, 14 in the 7th grade at a rap concert with adults and teenagers in 1986,87) It's no different from when your Great Great Parents got married. Those dudes were in their 20's marrying or messing with girls who were 14,15,16,. AND GUESS WHAT THOSE YOUNG GIRLS ARE YOUR GREAT GREAT GRANDMOTHERS!! That means your Great Great Grandfather's would be considered pedophiles and would have to register as sex offenders in today's World. It was just a different time 40 years and early ago. ** Lastly that was the 80's women were not as street savvy like they are now. So it was easy for dudes to take advantage of girls that didn't know anything .. parents can't teach a girl anything if they are square and have not been exposed to certain things... especially street life.
We've been knew about Aaron Hall and Gloria Valdez. So why bring all this up now. Their son is a grown ass man now. Nobody never considered his feelings.
Gene Griffin GUYS former manager ripped them off had all of them sign over most of their royalties and publishing except for Teddy Gatling who refused to sign and was kick out of the group since Gene owned the name GUY and replaced with Aaron's brother Damion Gene is also listed as a group member of GUY on the paperwork.
It is unfortunate that people, whether they're a mother or father and claim to love their children that they never spent any time getting to know their children. Just because you make children does not make anyone a mother or father. It takes responsibility to be a parent.
I BEEN Lost ALL Respect 4 Him once I found dis out Years Ago & After He was caught on tape 📼 Dissin' T. Riley 3:59 6:26 - 9:33 Somethin' Wrong wit Aaron 9:33 Hip Hop's Grim Reaper strikes AGAIN
@sandraford1107 - I Heard That Aaron Hall 👿 Another P. Diddy!! Things Been Said About Him To Messing With Underage Girls.. It's Going Around The Media 🎙️🎤.
He allegedly planned to sacrifice his child mother but Tupac saved her from her demise, and the song I miss you was dedicated to her, but his sinister plans went unsuccessful.
What! "Don't be afraid", ha! It's funny how i was so into the music i had no idea what was going on in the background. Because my own life was a TMZ Episode😂
So R. Kelly isn't the dude from Guy who went solo? 😮 But I believe Aaron when he says Gloria didn't want him in his son's life. I don't believe her abuse claims because she couldn't stop herself from bringing her son up when mentioning it.
Never spent a birthday or Christmas with my kids cause i was too street..?????THAT'S ABOUT THE STUPIDEST SHIT I EVER HEARD! THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE! WTF IS HE TALKING ABOUT????
R kelly put Charlie on later in life. Its really R Kelly and Charlie musically. Kelly just took Halls look which really isn't his look. We all have bald heads and goatees
The didn't steal any style , they were all influenced by the likes of Owen Wilson & Ron Isley . I'm not going to hate celebs for their personal beefs unless they commit serious crimes and not just allegations, I care about their music.
I’m sorry he just gives me crackhead uncle vibes 😂
He really does seem that way
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🎯 cuz that's what he is 😂
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Yep...i been known that...@@Dark0_Cl0ud
Love to hear Aaron Hall sing! Hearing him SPEAK? NO THANK YOU!
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Very well said.
You never know how ignorant someone is until they open their mouth !!
That part
@ thanks purelight
When someone opens their mouth, that is usually for confirmation. Vibes give way to way more that folk realize.
This is a fact
Aaron sounds real wild when he talks
I used to love that man until I found out how ignorant he is.
lol that was funny. I know that’s right
that'll do it every time😂
we know you all love Pookys and Ray-Rays, especially the vocally gifted ones
@@anticssmantics8446 Y'all ARE the Pookys and Ray Rays, so now what?
Criminally ignorant. Unfortunately he's far from alone.
I used to be a Guy fan, but after one of his interviews, it was over.
AARON IS GRIMMY AS HELLLLLLLLLLL I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR HIM
the f industry take to Diddy
Teddy Riley just as grimy
@@MR-TMX64 NOT LIKE AARON .
@@MR-TMX64 not so as Aaron
@@MR-TMX64 he worked with Mj
I never heard Aaron Hall speak until recently. I only know him from singing. Just horrible!
I think that's most people experience....sadly....loosing his stammer was probably the start of the groups break up....
@lenep9985 maybe he should have kept it. May have been nicer! 🤔
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Man for real
After that vlad interview I viewed him way different and this guy is weird.
Same.. it was so disappointing.
Same here. He's a creep.
Same!
@@TheSandramae25 it was just weird and what man was sit back and said another man watch him have sex not only have sex have sex with the mother of your child and publicly talk about it on a worldwide website the website get the views that’s embarrassing to your baby mom and your child
He was wildin!
R. Kelly doesn't even sound like Aaron Hall musically, but let's talk about how Aaron Hall completely stole Charlie Wilson's style from the Gap Band. 🤷♂
Thank you, cause it goes both was
I'm glad u bought that up. I was just saying that!.
Aaron jacked it from Charlie and R Kelly jacked it from Aaron
They all got it from stevie!@@coolb8545
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THAT part!
@coolb8545 And all of them got it from Stevie Wonder .
A 16 year old Gloria was standing with a Jamaican rapper we no longer know. Why isn't she calling him out? Why wasn't Gloria at home doing homework? She was bragging about being in the studio when a song was made. Her mother appeared present when the baby was born. She thought she was on the come up, but Aaron was not it, to her disappointment.
Who else heard him say 'dumb bish' at the beginning of "piece of my love"?! 😂
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Yes he did and shit was playing on the radio 😂😂😂
I put the lyrics on youtube music and it says "dun be" 😒 What even is that? We all know what he said 😂
I remember hearing it bc we said it. Don't Respect Him
My older cousin said that when I was young... from that point on, that's all I hear and I laugh every time I hear it to this day!
This dude is sick I'm surprised he hasn't been locked up for SA, he needs to be
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I ain't saying I condone his or Diddy's behavior but what about the white rock & roll counterparts ? Ranging from Elvis all the down to Clive Davis who has been doing the exact same thing for decades and never seen a day in jail. As well as these kids parents they should be locked up too. Bow Wow recently said his parents gave him to Snoop when he was 5years old. That shyt is insane.
@@MrMongoslade100here we go with the white ppl do it too excuse so just because white got away with so should the black man such a ridiculous take & excuse ew
@@MrMongoslade100 let's not forget Steven Tyler of Aerosmith.
He makes time for young girls but not his own kids
what 😂😂😂
@@djhollywoodlive6910 That's a lie. You're bearing false witness.
The way Diddy walk down the stairs had "No Good" writing all over his face 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I ran the streets in my day and did plenty of dirt but that never stopped me from being in my kids lives all their life so Aaron I don't buy all the "I didn't want my kids to see my street side" that's straight bullshit. ✌🏿
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Was thinking the same thing!
Mad Respect and Appreciation for Aaron Hall & R. Kelly's voices. Sad by the Men they are....
Once that child support era passes. Fathers like that get friendly again.
He really can sing but crazy as hell.
That’s why it’s important to exercise humility. When you have been graced with whatever gift, it can do a 360 and become a curse.
Gloria’s parents FAILED HER IN THE WORSE WAY, what the hell was she doing being a Luke dancer? Where was her parents?
He has a one of a kind voice.......the brother was fire
Yeah, but...
@@adamtroymcteer6998 Exactly..... but ...is an understatement
DMX voice but slower,
He was my favorite singer of all time...
He said I love my son but I have not see him in 15 years lol
its possible
I follow his son on IG. I can tell they're estranged.
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its possible, he wanted to kill Gloria for devil
its what l said the industry shade
Hall aside, why was a teenager allowed to attend an industry party, and not at least be chaperoned?
You are concerned more about why she was "allowed" to be there -then the fact that these predators most likely invited and preyed on her? People with money find ways to lure in victims.
@carmensaify Not more concerned about why, the fact that she was allowed to be there in the first place unsupervised is a valid concern.
It's equivalent to letting a teen in a bar.
Thats what I wanna know why was a youngn there n besides thats whats all the freaky wild stuff???
Why?, because most likely Aaron wasn't her 1st experience with a man in the industry.
They don’t check IDs at these parties. As long as these girls are pretty they get in. These dudes don’t care how old they are truthfully.
Looking at that hospital picture you can tell she’s young as hell
no one believes me, we are in the hell...
I believe you
Definitely close as possible to it. But Our Bible says Hell is unbearable.
R Kelly was teddy and Aaron hall put together. A true musical genius.
@@artyclay9874 no lie!
Facts
Never thought of it like that. But your right.
Facts 💯
Teddy Riley is a prodigy all on his own.
R Kelly has His own Style! Aaron Hall stole Charlie Wilson's Style. How about that?
R Kelly ain't got no style now.
They dont mean singing. His style as they stated he did shave his head similarly
Aaron is sad af.
I have a friend who was in a musical with Aaron. He said Aaron was late all the time, high most of the time and never knew his material.
Hold EVERYONE ACCOUNTABLE for allowing a 16 to hang out with adults like that
Look at her mother.. those women come from that
He is about to go down with Diddy!!!! 😂😂😂😂
@hwelsh64 no, he isn't. This is old news that has been talked about for decades. Someone way more richer and more powerful took Sean Combs down. They don't care about low-level guys like Hall.
What?!! 😮
In that same interview when he was wit bishop. He admitted to being part of diddy freak offs . Diddy use to watch him fuck all the time.
@@thablackkat9905 we will see
Facts! Make em cellies. They can reminisce about their partying.
Thank you for referring to the teen age victims as "child/ren"😢
R. Kelly is a better singer than Aaron Hall.
It’s who you prefer, but no. Aaron had the ‘Stevie/Charlie Wilson range and riffs with some Daryl Coley gospel runs. Kelly took his style and eventually got his own voice but never had as much of the extra. Kelly can still sing though, Aaron lost it!
R was Hall with an off-key, about to start crying kind of style 😂
Kelly is better. Facts
@@sonyat4191 Listen to Aaron Hall - Sorry and Tears In Heaven. R.Kelly doesn't hit those ranges and notes. Aaron Hall is one of the best.
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All these teenagers with no supervision hanging out with grown folks , and no accountability to ANY of the parents? 🤔
Welcome to the 90's. We raised our mf selves😢
I worked with Teddy, Aaron and Damion, and Aaron had asked me to pick up some photos and other items that he left in a Hotel, this was back in the early 80' late 90's. As in this interview Aaron bragged about his sexual exploits and how he gets down. Also, he called Teddy a square, well if you know Teddy, he is soft spoken, studious, deep thinker and does not have that street edge, he is a really nice dude. But everyone has their moments to be Grimy!
Hearing someone call you a square, should be a compliment. As it gives insight what and who they’ve chosen to be to make them stand out. Plus real grimy behavior doesn’t require said person to be “street” or whatever thug.
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@@junglekutz5625low key...most street dudes would rather be squares.
**Teddy produced Michael Jackson "dangerous" album. That's what a so called "square" did 🏆. Teddy is the inventer of the new jack swing sound/trend and era. I'd rather be a square ☝🏾.
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Please speak on it 🙌🙌🙌 Black people’s thought process and conditioning is tragic. Any and everything low vibrational, destructive, etc., is associated with “blackness” and deviation from that, a person is a square or cornball. Sad. Well the proof is in the pudding as we see just watching this video.
R Kelly stealing from Aaron Hall: Is it steeling when you did it better than the original? 🤔
Gloria Velez: Luke of the 2Live Crew warned Aaron Hall about her. Apparently, was no innocent Angel herself. A roach may be dirtier than a rat but both are still nasty. Neither of them were innocent or blameless.
Don’t matter she was a MINOR, wth 🤦🏽♀️
@ it does matter. Being a minor doesn’t give you a pass from stupidity and promiscuous behavior. Sorry but she is old enough to be accountable for her decisions. Not excusing his actions, and no excusing hers either. She was not 12 she was 16 and at an adult rap party with the 2 Live Crew of all people. She was there of her own free will. She certainly was no angel. No empathy for her here.
How you think Kobe got young ass Vanessa??! At 16, she too was all in the videos, at snoops video shoot dancing and carrying on. Some chicks especially those of that kind that be their MO...young as hell tryna trap a grown rich man like Vanessa cuz when she got pregnant her parents made Kobe marry her when she got legal age. Vanessa held on to Kobe for dear LIFE and never did anything but follow Kobe around and buss out his kids. I have more respect for Simone LL wife, she really been there for LL, shante snoop wife REALLY BEEN THERE FOR LL...she runs snoops business and manages him. Most Hollywood wives come up with some kind of business and job and not just live lavish off their rich man. Not Vanessa. Kobe shoulda stayed with brandy. At least brandy had and brought more to Kobe table than looks and being a "exotic" Hispanic. Vanessa KNEW what she was doing just like Gloria.
Vanessa give me "Mrs. Debbie" from Addams family values. The gold digger that married uncle fester but NEVER loved him. Vanessa loved the lifestyle. She probably never knew the real Kobe. Damn smh
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@Mone333Williams she was 17 and on the set a music video. Kobe was not much older than her. He was about 20 or 21. Aaron Hall was already in his 30s. Aaron Hall was already a creep. Kobe met Vanessa, married her and stayed with her until death.
Let's not Compare Kobe to Aaron Hall.
That's an insult to his character. And let's not compare Vanessa to Gloria.
Gloria was a hoe. Vanessa has never been known to be a hoe.
He's such a dusty & a deadbeat dad. I've known about this story since the 90's. He should have left Gloria alone when he found out that she was 16. Disgusting & he can't sing live anymore! His voice is goneee!!!😮😂
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Those drugs destroy their voices every time.
Disrespecting his son's mother is not cool.
Gloria said Aaron tried to have her sacrifice while she was still pregnant and Tupac had to come to her rescue.
Teddy: "Everytime he goes into that mode I just put my head down.." - how about speaking up? So he just kept quiet?
He looks like the character from Tales of the crypt
Back in the 90's, I immediately noticed that R. Kelly copied Aaron Hall.
Me too lol!
He LITERALLY sings about date rape in "Don't be afraid".
Ikr. Very very scary indeed! 😮😑
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Aaron Hall was influenced and atole Charlie Wilson style Mixed in with Stevie Wonder and Donny Hathaway
Indeed
I never liked Aaron Hall.
Me either…it was just something about him that didn’t sit right w/me…👀
The gall of ARROGANCE!!!!😊
Me either
Are you nuts he was that guy.. We just didnt know he was a rapist
Vocally he is a beast, just a shitty human
Aaron "no class or respect " diddys twin!
He has not aged well… Mentally, physically and emotionally ☹️
He should be locked up....
He won't be. GV has fallen for his "apology" to her.
I'm not excusing predatory behavior but I am giving a side eye to juvenile females being an adult situations without adult supervision and wondering how no one knew they were not juveniles. He did not pick her up at school or a girl scout function. He saw her at a hotel with another adult male
He had a speech impediment And said I don't.I don't Stutter anymore 😂
I'am a a true fan of "The King OF New Jack Swing B/K/A: Mr. Teddy Riley love you so much . Shout-out to the group Guy those were the days aint no music like the music from the 80s and 90s . 😊😊😊😊
The same Gloria Velez from the Big Pimpin video that was poppin p all over the industry? Where was all this moral footing back then??? She was with it all!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
THANK YOU
A lot of them were.
I mean she was a child when she started.. She doesn’t deserve respect though smh respectability Olympics is crazy …. Can’t grow up and have a past I guess
@@beeha8133once a 304 ALWAYS a 304 you know just like you are.
@ ohhhh you called me a 304🥴 my feelings are so hurt 😂🤣😂
R. Kelly and Aaron Hall has TWO DIFFERENT SOUNDS
Exactly 😊
I don't think they sounded the same, but in my opinion Kelly copied Aaron's look, the bald head and shades, style and swag. Aaron does Sound like Charlie though.
Idk....😅 Between "groove me" and "she's got that vibe" it's the same uptempo new jack SWING.
Honey love vs let's chill??? Idk 😅😅😅
But do I prefer r. Kelly over Aaron YES! (All the way around). Potato salad or tuna salad? Both salads taste GOODT ☺️but which one would you prefer? Potato salad of course ❤😂✊🏾. That 12 play, "R" album and "you are not alone" song period🤌🏾was a moment in history.
Teddy produced Michael Jackson "Dangerous" album another super epic moments in music history...but HIStory album by MJ, r. Kelly just did one song.
You think Russians, ppl in Indonesia..in Germany...in Nigeria..in Italy or Romania know "groove me, Teddy's jam, let's chill" by Aaron hall and GUY 😅... Hell no, but they damn sure know "you are not alone" written by r. Kelly for the king of pop. Even in 2024 MFS KNOW that MJ song..mostly by heart ..if you not from the 80s early 90s then GUY is a "who" to you compared to r.kelly.
I agree. I never got the comparison.
There was a rap song back in the day and I forget the rapper but dude said, "I'll make the people forget you like R. Kelly did to Aaron Hall." 😬
Jodeci ran Guy, Aaron Hall and all that up outta business!!
facts
Yo! People after reading most of your comments, y'all seem to forget Aaron Halls nickname from his days with Guy which was Aaron "NASTY MAN" Hall. Nasty by name, Nasty by nature. I'm just saying. Junior from London 😎🇬🇧🇬🇧🇯🇲🇯🇲
i saw an interview with Tim Gatling, the original 3rd member of Guy, He said Aaron Hall would only be a member of Guy if Teddy joined,...now he calls him a square and drops the Fuk you? Teddy Riley created a whole new genre of music. His sound influenced a new generation of producers. Aaron went solo and had it not been for the Bomb Squad , he would not have had those couple of hits that he has.
ACTUALLY FULL FORCE DID IT FIRST!
@@LORDJ-e9d full force did what first?
Right @OP
@maxsweet3000 THAT STYLE OF MUSIC!
@LORDJ-e9d full force...thier sound was not similar to new jack swing.
Teddy wanted Kelly to lead sing for guy and Aaron was a poor man version. Aaron could never hold a candle to Kelly and the careers prove it. No comparison at all not even close 😆
How is that possible when he put teddy in the group
Man she was performing with Luke eating women out on stage before she got with Aaron Hall
So that means rape her and not take care of your son? Weirdos
Right? Miss me with this victim mess.
Gardener??? seems you’re confused.
My mama said that’s how Teena Marie and Rick James were 😂😂
Seen the video it's so true
I never understood this story. I remember him beating that gurl back in the 90s. She was only 15 when they met. The police were involved when it came to domestic violence. But he never faced statutory rape charges!!! He lived in Florida, where the legal age of consent is 18. This girl gave birth at 16 or 17 to his child!!! HOW!?!?!?🤔🤨🤬
Y'all act as if this is so strange. This is more normal and even worldwide. They only go after you more so when you are wealthy and people hate you, jealous of you and want to take you down. Nothing to be shocked about.
I was a DJ back in the late 80s and 90s man they had this event called the (BRC) black radio convention this was a place to show your talent big artists would be there at them parties man i seen shit that made me turn away from the music business
What are some of the things you've witnessed?
Me too when I went to Cali back in 95'. I turned 21 and went out to the clubs where the celebrities were at , and all I saw was shady weirdo $#*+. Cutthroats, gangstaz, gangbangers, trannies, f@&&ots, super dikes and a whole evil vibe all over these certain venues. My Auntie's ex guy ( who played in Martin, Hoodlum, 100 kilos etc.) asked me now that I got to be exposed to the life do I still want to get into the music business? I said it loud as F--- "Heeelllllll Nawww!" SMH🤦
Yessssss tell me!!!😂😂😂😂
Tell it……
C’mon 2024 is almost over. This is the year of revealing. Don’t let your moment slip away.
He was a freak but R Kelly was freakier. To sum it it up, they were both very disturbing characters
Everybody copies other styles. We are the only ones who find ways to put eacher down.
There is more to this story that meet the eye. Very sad that a child ended up in that life and that Aaron didn't run when he found out her age.
Yes, thank u . Everyone in the comments is just worried about who stole who's style. But no one, but u spoke about Aaron Hall being with a 16, 14, at his age back then. There is something wrong here. It's becoming the new norm.🫢🫢sad, 🌎 we live in.
Big FACTZZZ 💯 this is truly disgusting and disturbing 😢
Exactly
It’s sad how much victim shaming goes on & that is why some victims wait years to tell or never tell! They were being abused exposed drugged violated and exploited.
Gloria Valdez was not a victim here. People really need to do some research for themselves. She was never a victim.She willingly made a conscious decision to do what she did. We have to stop acting like these women was unwillingly victims.
Aaron be on that coke lol
😂😂😂
GOOOTTTAAA BEE!!! A whole cocaine bear 🐻 🫠
Definitely 😂😂😂😂
U love ur son to death but u have the nerve to say on camera 📷 u aint ur son in 15yrs TeamTeddyRiley
Both Arron Hall & Kels was fire......2 different voice but managed by the same dude yet fire......no matter who didn't like ie it.......but Kels took Arron's look & style even though his voice was smoother,Teddy Riley was part of it in a major way......yall check the history behind these cats.
Aaron Hall is 60 years-old, why would you think it's such a big shock that he has a grandchild...🤦🏾♂️
As a artist a hall...u cant deny,but personally dude seem like he a trip.
As for Gloria, groupies get what groupies ask for.
Velez said he tried to sacrifice her but Tupac saved her
Yes i heard that
Bull shit. Everyone keeps.making up all these stories about 2pac. Like 2pac was a saint. Pac was a talented man and a deep thinker at times, but bullshit. He didn't save her. She was no victim she was a more than willing participant.
And these 2pac fairytales need to stop. Next people gonna say 2pac saved 30 people from a burning building.
There's a new 2pac story made up everythat never happened when he was alive.
That man was great as he was. There is no need to make up additional stories to tey and elevate him to Saint Status. Let him rest in peace and stopp the lies.
I saw that video about that
@@flashcardsthebeautifulj5632 Another made up story about 2 Pac.
None of these stories were out when he was alive or shortly after his death. People make up stories about him all the time.
Yes, he was a talented rapper and actor but people are trying to elevate him to Saint Status by making up these 2Pac Fairytales. 🧚
2Pac is already a great performer who made an enormous impact. There is no need to fluff his resume with fake stories.
This dude needs medication, and a therapist
You don't understand what he's saying. There was sex in both their eyes and there was no need to talk, they just went and did that thang. It's exactly what happens with one night stands and most people are acting so self righteous like he raped her. She could have said no. Yes she was 16 but she was old enough to hang with grown men alone? Looking for what? What happened to Liza Gardener and Gloria Velez is called statutory rape (sex with a minor). Laiza Gardner also experienced was a gang rape as she was drugged.
Damn, diddy was escorting minors even back as an intern at MCA. Did R Kelly copy that too?😢
So no one is going to ask why 16 year old Gloria Velez was at an adult rap party? You go looking for trouble and you're going to find it. I don't wanna hear no excuses.
And she had a baby by him!!!!!!!!
she was a video vixen back in the day at the age of 16... IDK why put back in the day all the rappers had nothing but 16 year olds as their main lady in their videos. I know off hand I was in class in high school with the girl in a usher and piddy video, then she was in another rap video with a rapper who was started in Love and hiphop realty show.
I think it’s a older man or older woman’s responsibility to find out how old the person is because they can sneak into a adult parties ( nothing knew) or they can have fake IDs and that’s why you shouldn’t be so rushed to take them to bed or relationships/ find out / extreme vetting the person ( pause) on anything there no excuses etc
@@MsBajanSensationthese older men aren’t stupid it’s their responsibility to ask questions and find out how old these young women are and if it’s extreme vetting so be it/ information technology or paid background checks etc
@MsBajanSensation that's a fact. Most of the video girls started out in videos by age 15+
STOP IT R KELLY'S PIN AND VOICE IS ON ANOTHER LEVEL.
Why do parents allow a 16 year old a 21 and up party? Those parties are not made for a 16 year old. Her parents should be locked up. I feel so sorry for these girls
SIMPLE MONEY TALKS THESE PARENTS WERE OR GUARDIANS WERE GIVEN MONEY AND PROSITUTED THEIR OWN CHILDREN NOTHING NEW GREEDY MONSTERS LIKE CAR MIRROR CAUTION SAYS THEY MAY APPEAR CLOSER THAN YOU THINK YOUR ENEMY IS MOSTLY SOMEONE YOU KNOW😱😡😡😡 MAY THE VICTIMS OVERCOME THESE CHALLENGES AND LET THEIR ENEMIES NOT WIN!!!
You're looking at it in today's time. He met Gloria in his time with the group GUY.. so that would be in the late 80's.The World was different back then and before.
I don't know how old you are but they didn't have parental advisory on anything untill 1988 so anytime before then kids would be around adults all the time.( I was 13, 14 in the 7th grade at a rap concert with adults and teenagers in 1986,87)
It's no different from when your Great Great Parents got married. Those dudes were in their 20's marrying or messing with girls who were 14,15,16,. AND GUESS WHAT THOSE YOUNG GIRLS ARE YOUR GREAT GREAT GRANDMOTHERS!! That means your Great Great Grandfather's would be considered pedophiles and would have to register as sex offenders in today's World. It was just a different time 40 years and early ago.
** Lastly that was the 80's women were not as street savvy like they are now. So it was easy for dudes to take advantage of girls that didn't know anything .. parents can't teach a girl anything if they are square and have not been exposed to certain things... especially street life.
We've been knew about Aaron Hall and Gloria Valdez. So why bring all this up now. Their son is a grown ass man now. Nobody never considered his feelings.
Once they came out w, Aaron Hall being in the diddy house/freak offs, he REALLY TOLD ON himself....
I have an issue with men with no facial hair👀
lol me too 😂
Agreed, my Dad always said don't trust a man w/no hair on his face!
Me three 😂 @@kristin8270
Lol😅😅😅😅😅
@@Ether9Empress MY father always said don't trust a man w/no facial hair!
Bad behavior can not be excused, but some of these young girls put themselves in dangerous situations.
They are young......... what's your point ? These are grown men. Yall find everyday to blame women and girls for everything.
Gene Griffin GUYS former manager ripped them off had all of them sign over most of their royalties and publishing except for Teddy Gatling who refused to sign and was kick out of the group since Gene owned the name GUY and replaced with Aaron's brother Damion Gene is also listed as a group member of GUY on the paperwork.
It is unfortunate that people, whether they're a mother or father and claim to love their children that they never spent any time getting to know their children. Just because you make children does not make anyone a mother or father. It takes responsibility to be a parent.
I BEEN Lost ALL Respect 4 Him once I found dis out Years Ago & After He was caught on tape 📼 Dissin' T. Riley 3:59
6:26 - 9:33 Somethin' Wrong wit Aaron
9:33 Hip Hop's Grim Reaper strikes AGAIN
He better hope he is not charged with SA.
@sandraford1107 - I Heard That Aaron Hall 👿 Another P. Diddy!! Things Been Said About Him To Messing With Underage Girls.. It's Going Around The Media 🎙️🎤.
Well if R. Kelly stole his style, he ran with it and blew it out the water.
🙄
Aaron Hall clearly has a type… 16yr olds 🤦🏻♂️
Sooo rkelly stole that too😅
He allegedly planned to sacrifice his child mother but Tupac saved her from her demise, and the song I miss you was dedicated to her, but his sinister plans went unsuccessful.
Yes I saw that shout-out to Pac
R Kelly’s vocal runs were definitely jacked from Aaron Halls style. I called it as soon as R Kellydropped 12 Play.
Why the @ Tagline “ got ole boy head looking like “Yakub” the mad scientist 😂
What! "Don't be afraid", ha! It's funny how i was so into
the music i had no idea what was going on in the background. Because my own life
was a TMZ Episode😂
He’s using the street as the reason to not be in his kids life street guys takes care of there kids and I didn’t know he was like this
So R. Kelly isn't the dude from Guy who went solo? 😮 But I believe Aaron when he says Gloria didn't want him in his son's life. I don't believe her abuse claims because she couldn't stop herself from bringing her son up when mentioning it.
Aaron Hall had some amazing!!! vocals. The drugs and alcohol destroyed his vocals and career. Praying that God will help him🙏🙏
Never spent a birthday or Christmas with my kids cause i was too street..?????THAT'S ABOUT THE STUPIDEST SHIT I EVER HEARD! THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE! WTF IS HE TALKING ABOUT????
R kelly put Charlie on later in life.
Its really R Kelly and Charlie musically. Kelly just took Halls look which really isn't his look. We all have bald heads and goatees
🤦🏿
Charley Wilson ➡️Aaron Hall ➡️R.Kelly.
They both owe uncle Charley
We always said R kelly took his style... But Aaron jacked Charlie Wilson... It goes both ways
The didn't steal any style , they were all influenced by the likes of Owen Wilson & Ron Isley . I'm not going to hate celebs for their personal beefs unless they commit serious crimes and not just allegations, I care about their music.
Looking like Stevie Wonder with them prescription windshield glasses.
IM NOT GONE LIE HIS BABY MAMA LOOKED GROWN AF ND PROBABLY LIED ABOUT HER AGE..I FEEL LIKE THEY BOTH WERE WRONG
Uncle Charlie of the GAP band can shut Aron and RKelly down . Wait a minute! Stevie Wonder 💭 can tell all of them yall jacked my style. 😂😂😂❤
Someone who understands they all came from the Stevie tree
I NEVER thought I'd hear someone talk and sound as ignorant Bishop Don Juan.. But ...
I havent seen my soj in 15 years..... but i luv him.... MIC DROPPED Dad of the year candidate.