Short History of Ancient Greece

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  • Опубліковано 19 гру 2024

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  • @YD39222
    @YD39222 День тому +57

    Bro called an hour "Short". I love you Magistra Vitae

    • @Caligulashorse1453
      @Caligulashorse1453 22 години тому +5

      That’s because Greek history is extremely complicated. There were definitely parts that he reasonably would either brief over or not mention at all, for example the Greek kingdoms in India still probably one of the best historical brief videos I’ve* ever seen on the entirety of Greek history on UA-cam

    • @YD39222
      @YD39222 22 години тому +6

      Yeah that's fair but the pun is more on the fact that he calls a 52 minute video short although the short actually refers to it being a brief overview of greek history.

  • @allenthelion3196
    @allenthelion3196 День тому +56

    This is the best history-related content I've seen in a long time, maybe ever.
    Everyone, even if you're not into history, you need to watch this. Trust me. 52 "short" minutes later, I know more about Ancient Greece than 99% of people around me. Despite staring at my screen for an hour like a zombie, I feel no guilt or shame like I usually do. I feel enlightened.
    You're already a legendary channel, 15.000 or 150.000 subs. Can't wait to rewatch tonight.

    • @agrippa5643
      @agrippa5643 День тому +4

      Yes this was one of the best hours i ever spent.

  • @notaname1750
    @notaname1750 День тому +33

    47:15
    I like the fact that you can see a little red on the Italian peninsula growing.

    • @thekingofwar541
      @thekingofwar541 4 години тому +4

      Almost like an upcoming threat being ignored till it was to little to late

  • @MausOfTheHouse
    @MausOfTheHouse День тому +134

    I shudder to imagine how much time this took you to make

    • @MagistraVitae
      @MagistraVitae  День тому +41

      We don't talk about that 😅

    • @bassybgaming3388
      @bassybgaming3388 День тому +16

      An ungodly amount of time I bet 😂😂 worth it every time though. At this point he's gonna reach and finished Hannibal Barcas war before HistoryMarche and Kings and Generals

  • @gheddafiduck8239
    @gheddafiduck8239 День тому +17

    I have an exam on Greek history in few weeks, this feels like a Christmas gift

  • @genericnpc5669
    @genericnpc5669 12 годин тому +9

    It says a lot that a 50 minute video on the history of ancient Greece is "short". Now do a "long", full history.
    Also, thumbs up for Rome II campaign map soundtracks.

  • @LT_Cobra270
    @LT_Cobra270 21 годину тому +8

    I been looking for a simple overview of greek history without going into 5 hour long documentories! This is perfect thank you so much!

  • @firasahmed5743
    @firasahmed5743 День тому +30

    just 50 minutes
    short indeed
    liked

  • @JOGA_Wills
    @JOGA_Wills День тому +15

    Got that Imperator music going in the background

    • @MagistraVitae
      @MagistraVitae  День тому +8

      It was time to try out something new

    • @esttrox5881
      @esttrox5881 День тому +7

      @@MagistraVitae Funnily enough I was just getting back into Imperator so this video helped me understand much about post-Alexander Greece. Thank you and keep putting out bangers!

    • @JOGA_Wills
      @JOGA_Wills День тому +4

      ​@@MagistraVitae and Total War... beautiful

    • @JustinWaller-pj9jg
      @JustinWaller-pj9jg День тому +4

      I wish paradox had stuck with imperator. I still love to play it

    • @MagistraVitae
      @MagistraVitae  2 години тому +3

      I heard rumors they are reviving the game... They released a new update this year, but you can never be sure

  • @Theodoros_Kolokotronis
    @Theodoros_Kolokotronis 5 годин тому +3

    One of the most thrilling historical novels that follows the life of Alexander the Great during his legendary campaign to avenge the Persian invasions in Greece, is “The Virtues of War” by Steven Pressfield.
    Truly epic.

  • @Cronkna
    @Cronkna День тому +9

    Short history of Greece
    52 minutes long
    Hell yeah, I love it

  • @robertc8425
    @robertc8425 12 годин тому +5

    I love you chanell men, you can easly go with the big ones like King and Gerals, Armchair Historian, Bazz Battles and many more, you don t need 1 hour or history in detail to learn, I like what you do and keep up, in 1 year max 2 this chanell will blow even more.

  • @-TheDumbOne-
    @-TheDumbOne- День тому +14

    while watching the video i just now noticed the fact that this has got less than 2k views! your style and the quality of the video made me think that it would be at 100k or even more! keep up the good work man

  • @IllyrianTiger99
    @IllyrianTiger99 День тому +24

    *The Greeks could rule the world. Alexander did. He took a Greek army to the far Indus. There was nothing left to conquer; the world was his. But Alexander is dead. His empire is gone. And so we live in evil days; the free men of Greece have turned on each other, instead of their proper enemies: those who envy all the Greeks have done. Alexander must weep, if the dead weep. I will weep in his place, but I will also hope. The world turns; what was may come again.The Fates still spin the web of men's lives. So now, perhaps the gods wish Greeks to be great again. Perhaps a new Alexander will take up the sword, bring Order where there is Chaos, remake the world of men into a better place... perhaps.*

    • @Fokas-n8t
      @Fokas-n8t Годину тому +1

      Unexpected words coming from an Illyrian

  • @zyandruid5942
    @zyandruid5942 11 годин тому +4

    WOW THIS AMAZING!! I love how you make the map. What program did you useto make the maps?

  • @ThomasHall1000
    @ThomasHall1000 14 годин тому +3

    This channel is art and history of the highest degree and I am so happy it exists

  • @Theodoros_Kolokotronis
    @Theodoros_Kolokotronis 4 години тому +3

    A list with some notable history books by credible Scholars, regarding the legacy of the Ancient Greek Kingdom of Macedonia;
    “Alexander the Great. Man and God”, by Ian Worthington.
    “The Miracle that was Macedonia” by N. G. L. Hammond.
    “By the spear. Philip II, Alexander the Great, and the rise and fall of the Macedonian empire”, by Ian Worthington.
    “The Rise of the Greeks” by Michael Grant.
    “Alexander of Macedon, 356-323 B.C.: A Historical Biography” by Peter Green.
    Truly masterpieces. A historical and academic treasure.

  • @jangelbrich7056
    @jangelbrich7056 День тому +5

    The maps, animations, narration, and the chain of events, amazing. Subscribed!

  • @antiepix9555
    @antiepix9555 18 годин тому +4

    ABSOLUTE CINEMA!
    By the way after you finish all the other ancient stuff, are you going to dive into Eastern Roman History as a continuation of BOTH Roman AND Greek history? It would be perfect for your way of displaying history as well and a goldmine of content!

    • @MagistraVitae
      @MagistraVitae  16 годин тому +3

      First have to finish other ancient stuff 🤣

    • @antiepix9555
      @antiepix9555 8 годин тому

      @ yeah I said *after* you finish all the other ancient stuff lol

  • @Kingya12
    @Kingya12 21 годину тому +3

    First time I took my time to watch the whole video. It was really interesting and I learned much from it. I really enjoyed it.

  • @damianmenzel
    @damianmenzel День тому +6

    This is insane man, I've been following your channel for a while and I can't believe this doesn't get more views. Keep up the good work!!

  • @williamandethan6274
    @williamandethan6274 18 годин тому +6

    Wow, this is the first video I’ve seen this complete! Best use of 52 minutes of my life! This video is really complete, and I wish anything who’s interested in ancient greece or classical history for that matter, watch this video!
    Also, slight correction at 47:51, Lysimachus and Seleucus were 79 and 77 each respectively, so not quite over 80, but otherwise great video!

  • @chrisb4003
    @chrisb4003 14 годин тому +2

    Outstanding work bro, that was a great watch

  • @KarinAlbanian
    @KarinAlbanian День тому +5

    Talk about an early Christmas gift!

  • @noobzie8963
    @noobzie8963 День тому +5

    Your content is amazing! I'm also glad you dedicated a decent chunk of the video to the pre-classical age, as it is often overlooked, and imo it's even more interesting.

  • @bvillafuerte179
    @bvillafuerte179 8 годин тому +2

    Excellent video.

  • @mrgeorgeb0062
    @mrgeorgeb0062 День тому +3

    love your vids dude!

  • @Sirvalian
    @Sirvalian 13 годин тому +2

    "Short" - Still watched it all, great video.

  • @mattk3926
    @mattk3926 11 годин тому +2

    Incredible video

  • @d.6325
    @d.6325 День тому +3

    this was amazing, thank you. I was a bit exhausted after half an hour, it was dense. I see some people joking about it being long but it could have been so much longer, it's an amazing summary.

  • @StarterOffical-Jousha-lf6ig
    @StarterOffical-Jousha-lf6ig День тому +7

    The legend returns

  • @jacobbaker7763
    @jacobbaker7763 16 годин тому +4

    Imperator Rome soundtrack? Based

  • @francisgaherby3136
    @francisgaherby3136 День тому +3

    That intro went so hard! Thanks for another amazin vid Magistra!

  • @mdshaler
    @mdshaler 16 годин тому +3

    I hope one day in the future you will have the 100,000+ Subs that you deserve!

  • @themeerkat5157
    @themeerkat5157 День тому +6

    damn, only thing missing in this video was a brief mention of alexander being aristotle's disciple, other than that amazing video

  • @pyrrhusthegreat2103
    @pyrrhusthegreat2103 День тому +3

    I've watched a lot of videos on your channel, I am therefore always happy to see a new one pop up in my notifications! It's really amazing how much time, research, effort, editing was put into these videos !

  • @allstarlord9110
    @allstarlord9110 День тому +2

    That was very very good, good job

  • @ObeseMcDese
    @ObeseMcDese День тому +3

    Im always exited to see a new vid from you. Even if its something I studied extensively I still enjoys the vids you put out.

  • @scoringbox2176
    @scoringbox2176 2 години тому +1

    Great, now I have to binge watch all of your videos because they’re so interesting!

  • @TomAndersonn
    @TomAndersonn 19 годин тому +2

    Excellent video

  • @randomcommenter100
    @randomcommenter100 День тому +4

    Great set-up for the upcoming Roman-Macedonian and Roman-Seleucid wars

  • @wankawanka3053
    @wankawanka3053 День тому +4

    The fact that the short version is almost one hour is funny 😅

    • @MagistraVitae
      @MagistraVitae  16 годин тому +2

      The question is, how long is the long version 🤔

  • @theanimatedt8214
    @theanimatedt8214 5 годин тому +2

    This is great

  • @eliottlibert-do8ff
    @eliottlibert-do8ff 2 години тому +1

    0:40 putting the olympics was crazy

  • @michaelb5119
    @michaelb5119 День тому +5

    A surprise to be sure but a welcome one

  • @momoali007
    @momoali007 День тому +2

    I need to wake up for work soon, but i prefer this

  • @njb1126
    @njb1126 20 годин тому +3

    Good sources in the description, however I would advise against Everitt, he’s not a historian and makes a lot of errors. The Routledge history of the ancient world would be good sources along with the Cambridge ancient history second edition.

  • @rubidio2788
    @rubidio2788 День тому +5

    I have an important test tomorrow... I had. This is more important, sir

  • @lukasilskens2051
    @lukasilskens2051 День тому +2

    Love your work. And the StarWars references.
    Maybe in the Future a Video about it?.

  • @frankvandorp9732
    @frankvandorp9732 День тому +5

    The mythology section is hilarious, now I want you to illustrate the origin myth of every major religion.

  • @NoName-xc6cg
    @NoName-xc6cg День тому +5

    God I love this country ❤

  • @itrrii6582
    @itrrii6582 9 хвилин тому

    Best “short” animation I’ve seen😂. You’ve earned a new sub brother.

  • @woderick9465
    @woderick9465 2 години тому +1

    Thank you for the excellent basis in geography. Maybe the greatest force on Greek development.

  • @nicolausg7058
    @nicolausg7058 15 годин тому +4

    It may sound controversial, but:
    Byzantine Empire is not Roman Empire. It was a Greek Empire, where Greek culture emerged and dominated the roman part, vanishing it from presence, leaving the Basileus with only a title of the Emperor, but not Roman.

    • @nathac487
      @nathac487 15 годин тому +2

      Oh boy they're gonna come for you now

    • @nathac487
      @nathac487 15 годин тому +4

      But I somewhat agree with you. Byzantine empire was medieval, ethnically-culturally-linguistically Greek and religiously Orthodox. Compared to the ancient, Italian, Latin speaking, Pagan/Catholic Rome. However the "Byzantine" Empire is still the continuation of the same Roman state and even its inhabitants referred to themselves as Romans. Even the Turks when they came referred to them as "Rum"

    • @nicolausg7058
      @nicolausg7058 14 годин тому +1

      @@nathac487 Turks at the same time had own Sultanat of Rum, way before the rise of the Ottomans whose founder Osman I was one of the subjects of Rum

    • @nathac487
      @nathac487 14 годин тому +1

      ​@@nicolausg7058yes and Rum in that context means Rome/Romans

    • @leomarin193
      @leomarin193 8 годин тому +3

      "Byzantin Empire" didn't exist. The people of the empire called themselves "Romans" living in a land called "Romania". Name Byzantin was invented during the renaissance by the Italians.

  • @ducksongfans
    @ducksongfans 5 годин тому +1

    best history channel, this mist have been si muchw rom but i love long video

  • @marcussassan
    @marcussassan 20 годин тому +2

    really good

  • @Squareptune
    @Squareptune День тому +14

    We know that this video exists because he is trying to give oversimplified a chance to catch up in the Punic wars.😂

  • @scotandiamapping4549
    @scotandiamapping4549 День тому +6

    "Short history of Ancient Greece"
    *video is 52 minutes long*
    Ok I understand that for Ancient Greece that is still short but it's still a long video in general

    • @MagistraVitae
      @MagistraVitae  День тому +4

      Could be longer 🤣

    • @scotandiamapping4549
      @scotandiamapping4549 День тому +1

      ​@@MagistraVitaebtw I'm glad you've startes to branch out somewhat. Your Rome series is great of course but it's always nice to see other topics covered

    • @MagistraVitae
      @MagistraVitae  День тому +1

      That was always the plan, but there is only so much time in a day

  • @1_rma
    @1_rma День тому +5

    we are blessed we are blessed

    • @1_rma
      @1_rma День тому +1

      btw for the greco roman wars i made a map video about it and you can use those borders if you want(you dont have to because youre epic)

    • @MagistraVitae
      @MagistraVitae  День тому

      That could be helpful!

  • @dion4078
    @dion4078 20 годин тому +3

    fucking insane
    every video of yours is a miracle

  • @eliannevarez8993
    @eliannevarez8993 18 годин тому +1

    I had it in my head that Alexander's diodocchie where fellow Macedonian noble generals who grew up together and where tutored alongside him. Was that a tale?

    • @nathac487
      @nathac487 6 годин тому +1

      Perdiccas, Antipater, Polyperchon, Antigonus, Seleucus, Lysimachus etc are all the generation of Philip. Even Ptolemy who is often shown as a childhood friend of Alexander is 11 years older than him

  • @camatat1329
    @camatat1329 День тому +2

    I don't want spoilers about roman history in this video

    • @MagistraVitae
      @MagistraVitae  День тому +3

      By the time we get to Macedonian Wars, you will forget it 🤣

    • @camatat1329
      @camatat1329 День тому

      @MagistraVitae I'm thinking about starting a commenting streak this is day 1

  • @joecrosnoe2148
    @joecrosnoe2148 18 годин тому +3

    Bro made this whole video just to set up the Macedonian wars

  • @R4ndomWords
    @R4ndomWords 2 години тому +1

    Early iron weapons were not materially superior to bronze weapons (in fact, they were probably slightly inferior). Their big advantage lay in their mass producability due to a much larger and widespread availability of iron ore.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory День тому +3

    not so short but very impressive

  • @theragingnerdz1348
    @theragingnerdz1348 День тому +3

    Oh no he's commiting Civilis' folly and making more series before finishing one!

  • @domin817
    @domin817 День тому +4

    Svaka čast na trudu i na "kratkom" videu hahahhah

  • @stephengayton5246
    @stephengayton5246 День тому +1

    Isnt it Mark Antony?

    • @antiepix9555
      @antiepix9555 18 годин тому +1

      Yes, because his expanded name is Marcus Antonius lol

    • @MagistraVitae
      @MagistraVitae  16 годин тому +2

      Sadly, that's not the only mistake in the video 😅

  • @sillytrooper
    @sillytrooper День тому +3

    wow!

  • @GMKGoji01
    @GMKGoji01 5 годин тому

    Titans before Zeus… Wow… I’ve learned more about Greek Mythology today!
    [gasp] Will you do Norse Mythology next?!

  • @jaguarmemez
    @jaguarmemez 10 годин тому +1

    1:28 actually he did a vasectomy on Uranus and then he left to the sky and never came back to deal with olympus

  • @mustakman
    @mustakman 9 годин тому

    A great video! Here i want to say that many things of course have been overlooked and passed, but its reasonable as a long history that cant fit in books, cant be just told in a single video.
    However here are some of the most important things overlooked:
    1. In the map we can see that the greeks own like lands that stop in thessaly. In the reality they owned Epirus, Macedonia,Thrace, half of Today's albania and more. The reason why they cant be seen is probably that they didnt played much role in the rest of the hellenes this period, but in fact, not only epirus and macedonia had some of the most important religious sites, cities and tribes, but they also kept the illyrians and other tribes outside of hellas. Thye had a big population compared to the rest greek city states and some of the most important charactes in history were either macedonian or epirotic (like aristotele, pyrrhus of epirus etc.). Magna grecia and syracouse also played a role in hellenic things. Epirus and the rest of this areaa is considered the fatherland of all greeks by the ancient hellenes, as the first hellenes, pelasgoi were there since 3200 bc.
    2. Democracy wasnt invented in Athens, athens made it how it is. City states like ambracia(In epirus) had democracy before the democracy of clisthenes.
    3. Epigonoi. Epigonoi were like the diadochoi but a bit later. It was mostly pergamon and epirus. Epirus later played a big role in hellenic history, especially with pyrrhus of epirus, they had one of the best cities at the time with too much culture and stuff, while they were masters of engineearing and they were mostly the first ones to create big nice roads with a sidewalk out of marble,(some special ports)etc. Pergamon had one of the world's biggest libraries and it was a major city at its time. Pergamon is even mentioned in the bible and had one of the first chuirches there.
    4. Theuros and general millitary advancies.
    5. The improvement of many sciences (with the most important being math, physics and engeineering) and the creation of many others(like history, medicine etc. Medicine actually existed in a way diffrent form in ancient times, with egyptians using it mostly, but the greeks with the father of medicine, ippokratis advanced it too far for their time. Doctors actually take the oath of ippokratis)
    6. Greek inherritance and the ancestors of the greeks
    Those things arent even the most important. In fact there are too many things already in the video, but as we all know history, especially history of one of the greatest civilizations ever existed, cant fit in a video, so if you are really intrested in greek or any other history, buy some books. This in the video is actually the history we learn the 10year olds here, but it is an achievement for the guy who made the video to fit all these. Great job!

  • @mare1531
    @mare1531 21 годину тому +2

    For the algorithm!!

  • @gregoryturk1275
    @gregoryturk1275 16 годин тому +2

    GREECEEESS LETS GOOOOOO

  • @willlagergaming8089
    @willlagergaming8089 День тому +2

    short history. 52 minutes video 😳

  • @Greek.history.enthusiast
    @Greek.history.enthusiast 6 годин тому +3

    The ancient kingdom of Macedonia was the greatest Greek kingdom of the ancient times if you ask me

    • @Theodoros_Kolokotronis
      @Theodoros_Kolokotronis 5 годин тому +3

      Indeed mate. It was the only Greek Kingdom that managed to unite all Greek City States and Kingdoms in order to avenge the Persian invasions in Greece.

    • @Greek.history.enthusiast
      @Greek.history.enthusiast 4 години тому +3

      @Theodoros_Kolokotronis yes indeed even though it was done and achieved through military force

    • @Greek.history.enthusiast
      @Greek.history.enthusiast 4 години тому +1

      @Theodoros_Kolokotronis Greece undoubtedly has the best history in the entire world 🇬🇷

    • @Theodoros_Kolokotronis
      @Theodoros_Kolokotronis 4 години тому +1

      Something rather normal in the Ancient Greek world..

    • @Theodoros_Kolokotronis
      @Theodoros_Kolokotronis 4 години тому

      I totally agree my friend 🙌

  • @ariastatelu
    @ariastatelu День тому +1

    Where is Hannibal

  • @ZorroOfTheLaw
    @ZorroOfTheLaw День тому +2

    comment for the algorithm

  • @lucijakraljevic4393
    @lucijakraljevic4393 День тому +2

    Wooow!

  • @darrylerren8185
    @darrylerren8185 11 годин тому +2

    Only 52 minutes short 😂😂😂

  • @camatat1329
    @camatat1329 День тому

    I want to see a video animated like this about the yugoslav wars

  • @sorinlazarioan
    @sorinlazarioan День тому +2

    Comment for boost!🤝🏻

  • @dcanedemboyz7431
    @dcanedemboyz7431 День тому +5

    “Short history” *52min* 😂😂😂

  • @JasonKifner
    @JasonKifner День тому +1

    "The fate of Zeus's father bothered him. So, he decided to swallow Metis, his first wife." I'm sorry. What?

    • @MagistraVitae
      @MagistraVitae  23 години тому +3

      I guess they didn't have marriage counseling back then

    • @JasonKifner
      @JasonKifner 23 години тому

      @@MagistraVitae I get that. But how do you go from "I'm afraid one of my sons will kill me, like I did to my dad." to "I better swallow my wife." ? That's a big leap in logic.

    • @Κασσάνηρ
      @Κασσάνηρ 13 годин тому +3

      He had recieved a prophecy that Metis son would overthrow him.

    • @JasonKifner
      @JasonKifner 5 годин тому

      @ Φυσικά! Ευχαριστώ πολύ!

  • @daltonfarris
    @daltonfarris 7 годин тому +3

    Alexander was so based

    • @Greek.history.enthusiast
      @Greek.history.enthusiast 6 годин тому +2

      Alexander the Great was the greatest Greek military commander and leader of all time

    • @daltonfarris
      @daltonfarris 6 годин тому +1

      @Greek.history.enthusiast fact. At the time the greeks underestimated him and dismissed him as a Greek. Very sad. North Macedonia wishes they had his greatness

    • @Greek.history.enthusiast
      @Greek.history.enthusiast 5 годин тому

      @daltonfarris the fact that the ancient Macedonians had the right to participate in the ancient Olympic games which were only for the Greeks at the time says a lot by itself 🇬🇷

    • @Greek.history.enthusiast
      @Greek.history.enthusiast 5 годин тому

      @daltonfarris much appreciated

  • @camatat1329
    @camatat1329 13 годин тому

    Day 2 of asking for a video about the yugoslav war

  • @rafaelsodre_eachday
    @rafaelsodre_eachday День тому +1

    Nice video, great maps. A tip, if you allow me: try to make your speech less monochord, and more "musical". Variations in intonation and pace, expression of punctuation in the speech.
    It helps if you feel what you are saying, for example, if you are saying something funny or telling a little joke, smile while you speak; if you are telling something dire or game-changing, clasp your eyebrows together as if worried or angry, clench your fist.

  • @woderick9465
    @woderick9465 2 години тому

    Amazing that AI can't decipher Linear A. Makes you wonder about the AI menace...

  • @andresp1582
    @andresp1582 18 годин тому +1

    hi

  • @tangle2531
    @tangle2531 День тому +1

    4:54 Ultrakill reference!?!?!?! 🤯

  • @kellenlean2076
    @kellenlean2076 8 годин тому

    I have literally no dog in this fight but I do slightly favor the Northern Macedonian argument when Greeks start getting mad that Northern Macedonians claim one of the most famous people in history. The simple solution is for both of the countries to claim him and for “mostly the Greeks” to get over themselves and just allow other countries to claim their own history. Alexander was Macedonian. Which could be considered Greek today, but if you asked a Macedonian what he was back then there is absolutely no chance in hell that he would call himself “Greek”. Greek city states hated each other. A Greek nation state was completely inconceivable. That is until a certain Macedonian came along. I do not deny that Alexander was Greek. But I also cannot deny that he is Macedonian. Or at the very least had claim to the northern regions of Macedonia far longer and much earlier in his reign than he ever had control of Athens. To an American like me it appears that the Greeks are simply just mad one of their neighbor states have seniority in an empire that they desperately cling onto for relevance. If there’s any Greeks in here that think I’m missing something or just wanna defend the Greek point I’m all ears. But to me. The Greeks and northern Macedonians claims are about even. I see no reason why both countries can’t claim him.🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @leomarin193
      @leomarin193 8 годин тому +5

      Northern Macedonia is a slavic state. They came to the region with the rest of the Slavs around 700 AD.
      Modern Macedonians claiming "ownership" of Alexander is just ridiculous.
      Yes the ancient Macedonians didn't think of themselves as "Greeks", but none of the people in that time did. They were Athenians, Spartans, Thebans, Macedonians...
      When Philip II came to the throne, he "imported" many noble Greek families in order to "Greekafy" the Macedonian court. Most Macedonians didn't think of themselves as Greek, but the royal house of Arged did.
      To get back to your point, conection beteween ancient Macedonians and modern Macedonians is non existant. The ancient Slavs emigrated to the Byzantin province of Macedonia, taking the name in the process.

    • @kellenlean2076
      @kellenlean2076 8 годин тому

      I see what you’re saying but at the same time I still fail to see why Greeks are allowed to claim him when their current peoples are nothing like the ancient Macedonians either. Alexander himself was born near the border of northern Macedonia. But also your point about bringing in Greek families doesn’t really prove your point the way you think it does. The lands of Greece were very wealthy and had a lot of power. Of course Alexander would want some funding and assistance from them to build his empire. I don’t think that necessarily means he favored his Greek nationality (which didn’t exist at the time, mind you) over his Macedonian identity. Current day Greeks are full migrants from various immigration booms. So tell me why do those people whose families likely didn’t live there before 700 AD either, get claim over a him while the northern Macedonians don’t? I mean you yourself said that he had to bring in other Greeks so clearly the empire as a whole was started in Macedonia and was Macedonian in its origins (including those in northern Macedonia) Very confusing to me why Greeks cling so hard on this idea that because many modern northern Macedonians are of Slavic descent that somehow they are “less Macedonian” than their southern counterparts, when the Dorians migrated into Sparta from basically the same regions. Why are Spartans allowed claim in an Empire they were never truly apart of at all? Very puzzling to me why this is such a stubborn point for most Greeks when they themselves don’t really have a stable national identity.💀

    • @kellenlean2076
      @kellenlean2076 7 годин тому

      It just seems to me like that’s cutting corners a little bit. One group of people who descended from the balkans into Greece (the Spartans) get claim in an empire they were never apart of simply for being Greek. But northern Macedonians whose lands were literally the foundation for the great Macedonian empire somehow DONT get ANY claim. That to me seems illogical and entirely childish.🤷🏻‍♂️ So did the Greeks that were living up in the northern Macedonian part of the empire just pack up and leave when the Slavs came around or when the empire collapsed? I still fail to be swayed my friend.🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @leomarin193
      @leomarin193 7 годин тому +6

      Firstly, I just want to clarify, I am not Greek, but Slav. So I have no horse in this race either.
      The fact that he was born near a modern day Macedonia doesn't make him modern Macedonian. That's like claiming you are Iroquois (or any other tribe) simply becouse you are born in America near the ancient borders of the tribe.
      Or if you want an ancient example, emperor Diocletian was born in Dalmatia, but no normal Croatian would claim he was Croatian.
      Modern DNA analysis shows that modern Greeks are HIGHLY related to aancient ones found in numerous graves. The Macedonians spoke one of the Greek dialects showing they were at least related to the Greeks.

    • @Greek.history.enthusiast
      @Greek.history.enthusiast 6 годин тому +2

      The ancient Macedonians were genetically Greek 🇬🇷 and also the slavs immigrated into the balkans in the 6th century AD

  • @antjeengelmann4954
    @antjeengelmann4954 День тому +2

    8th

  • @tomgloyeski1391
    @tomgloyeski1391 День тому +1

    Jesus Christ

  • @michalschade7734
    @michalschade7734 14 годин тому +1

    BC(before Christ)

  • @nikoivanovski5579
    @nikoivanovski5579 15 годин тому +2

    Ancient greece is like Ancient USA never existed

    • @nathac487
      @nathac487 15 годин тому +9

      Least insane balkan nationalist 🤡

  • @way2tehdawn
    @way2tehdawn 12 годин тому

    I love that hyper scepticism…
    🤓: Who wrote the Greek epics?
    🇬🇷: Some guy called Homer.
    🤓: How do you know Homer existed?
    🇬🇷: I don’t know, why would they lie? Someone wrote them, someone with a name, why not Homer?

  • @vardekpetrovic9716
    @vardekpetrovic9716 11 годин тому

    It is VERY clear that you do not know greek, "form a nation" the greek nation already existed. A state is not a nation. nation and ethnos is ethnicity. Jews existed as a nation for a thousand years without a state, so did kurds and Sami.

  • @vardekpetrovic9716
    @vardekpetrovic9716 11 годин тому

    Big fail. Kyklops is not pronounced psyclops.

  • @jeliazkodimitrov3235
    @jeliazkodimitrov3235 4 години тому

    This is complete nonsense! Very bad!

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_5342 День тому

    Immediately wrong upon the start. Hellas didn't refer to the Greek city-states in southern Greece, it was a term used universally by Greeks throughout the Mediterranean, including the Macedonians