Depending on WHO’S telling the lie. Don’t put much stock into certain people that gift you with advice, but be patient with certain ones that find the time to gift it.
Terry, Slave Lewie and Fu Griffen are probley 3 of the coolest looking Angels in my opinion. And you George are the definition of the ideal leader...level-headed, willing to think before acting and the type to be in the trenches right along with those you led. I could listen to your stories all day. Would have loved to live that lifestyle, but it would have had to have been in the 60s when it was all about having a good time and living life on your own terms, before all the politics got in the way.
Thank you, George. The Hells Angels are an important and unique part of American culture. Someday they will be gone. All good things must come to an end eventually. Your writings and videos are an essential part of their history.
George, you have a gift for communication. I think you are really hitting your stride here. I am happy to subscribe and have high hopes for your continued contributions. Good on ya!
Enjoyed the added info. Thks. I met Sonny after he came to AZ & got to “ know “ him thru the yrs. His “ word” was law to almost all MC & Recovering Club. He wanted everyone to wear “ support HA “ patches. I use to get invited to all the events & got to many members!! I knew Jaybird & talked with him at some events but didn’t like him at all. What I noticed as an outsider, that every charter seemed to be different from the other. I live in Tucson but spent 3 yrs in Phx. So I was around them lots of times. I attended every Prison Run & they were so much fun. I got to ride with them many times as they would come to Tuc & escort diff Clubs there. I will say, I have NEVER been so excited & impressed with any 1% Clubs riding style ‼️. I always tell ppl on other sites that it was of my best memories. I would be curious to know how all u guy’s learn how to ride so fast & so tight?? I asked S one time & he just laughed & said smart ass remark. 😂. Hearing your story & info has me thinking about a lot of stuff I observed & heard. I’m a therapist with a MSW degree from U of WA. So by nature I’m curious & observe ppls behavior. Also grew up on the streets beginning in 64 when I was 12 yrs old. I had to survive & reading ppl was my way of life. I’m going to keep on listening to your podcasts. I’m glad you’re happy & doing well ‼️. MLHR Always.
Terry was awesome in angels 69, cool ass dance scene and the ending when tramp dumps the canteen and takes the keys ha Magoo was cool as shit in that movie too another legend 81 guy
I read a comment from someone else regarding the previous video where Terry's death was described. That person used the old saying, "with friends like Sonny, who needs enemies." Seems like Sonny might fit the personality profile describing a narcissistic psychopath. Intelligent, goal oriented, manipulative, ruthless and calculating.
Thank you George for your personal accounts - interesting. Does it ever blow your mind that you are alive and well - living a good life and able to tell your life stories on a thing such as the internet.
Wonderful to see you my friend, I look forward to each video. I agree, jealousy and instead of working things out among brothers, some choose to bring each other down. Blessings, stay safe❤
Thank you George for telling the stories. My dad Whitey was brothers with all of them so that made them my uncles and they were all very wonderful.♥️ very much love, including Terry, the❤ tramp
*_I can't believe all the drama that exists with the tough, hard core outlaw bikers. Seems like ALL the Southern Ca charters should have broke off and gave sonny the finger. Go back to the betty patch, put the So Cal rocker back on and go on without Oakland._* 👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣
That was your true bother looking out for you by filling you in. There's that bond that can't be broken when you go to school/grow up together. A whole crew of my classmates were hired at GM and they tried 10ways to Sunday to break us up. The Union even got nervous and couldn't figure the bond out .
You imagine all the old Bikers with these same feelings but they aren't in the position to talk about it or get out. Locked away or broke will keep you a member in good standing in most circles, not just the Biker world
In 73 I was in the Bay area and got to talk to someone that had been at Altamont.He told me from what he could see the and hear was Hippies calling HA's "Pigs" for being security and then knocking over some bikes.Before bikes got knocked over he said a member got on a microphone and explained to the crowd they were only trying to keep people off the stage and away from other equipment and enjoy the show,not trying to be "Pigs". The name calling didn't stop and things escalated,getting even worse after bikes got knocked over.I think it's suspicious that if the members announcement to the crowd was filmed,it is omitted from any footage I've seen.
Makes perfect sense when you consider most dudes who join a club feel like outcasts / misfits so they naturally have a chip on their shoulder for popular folks...
good stuff george keep it comin i think it would be cool to show clips of altamont and have you do some commentary not sure if the other charters would be cool with it or not just my 2 cents thanks
I was at Altamont and was behind the stage area on the opposite side of the HA bus. When Marty Balin jumped off the stage to interfere with some members or prospects, he got knocked out. That's when I decided it was time to go back up the hill to the racetrack where our limo was parked. It was nothing but chaos fueled by too much alcohol, LSD, and other drugs. People were crazy and that's why the Angels were beating on them to keep them away from the stage which was way too low. On the way back up the hill, I saw Mich Jagger being escorted down by two big, uniformed security guys. He was muttering something like "Don't let them get to me'. I guess he had been punched by someone after landing by helicopter at the race track. In my opinion, the Stones caused a lot of the turmoil at the end by refusing to come out and play for almost an hour and people were getting pissed off. You can see it when Bob Roberts threw that guy that was making all the weird faces off the stage.
Love your stories,as a old time sacramento guy,would like to hear your thoughts about Lonesome , and the. N.Sacto fellas, thanks for all the old stories,sacto Jim....
I have almost read Georges book Exile on Front Street im not a biker but i respect the HAs always have and always will God Bless The Fallen Angels from England .
Many conflate envy with jealousy. Jealousy is actually a biblical concept, as God is a jealous and wrathful God. Jealousy is a feeling when somebody messes with something that belongs to you, envy, is a feeling that you get when you want something that belongs to someone else. Just figured I’d clarify that
I was at Altamont. The stage was really low and there was no way the people weren't going to surge onto the stage. I went to many outdoor concerts in NorCal and none of them turned out like that. There was a lot of destruction, and it was a complete mess. People crapping and pissing everywhere. Nothing was ever the same
I was a senior in high school in 1967 and Hunter Thomson's book talked about Terry the tramp. I think his brother was a priest. We wore the pages out of that book
Glad I found your channel George. I just watched the other video on Terry and have to say, if true, I find it shocking. From your point of view of course it probably isn't but I never had any inkling that level of treachery was going on with HA and Sonny.
The Angels were put in an impossible position that day. I’ve always believed that a lot of the blame lies with The Stones due to the shambolic way the show was handled. And yes, Meredith Hunter,as sad and as tragic as it was played a huge part in that. He pulled a gun and pointed at the stage…what did he really think was going to happen? Of course I wasn’t there and it’s easy to have an opinion on something that you didn’t experience yourself. But I’ve read a lot about Altamont, and I have no doubt that a lot of people were to blame for what happened that day, but the Angels did nothing wrong!
Hunter. S.Thompson would sometimes use a tape recorder when interviewing people for his books. Here's a link to his interview with Terry the tramp part 1 . Part 2 should be close by. ua-cam.com/video/9Vupr7p5EwA/v-deo.htmlsi=xfNBFNTBSLgw6E_y
i stopped tripping at altamont. i'll never forget that fox hat; hilarious that he wore that to be anonymous! i had no idea who he was, other than he was an angel. not till i saw the previous video of yours. a bunch of angels sitting on a bus, "distributing" cans of beer at a high rate of speed...
I sure would like to know who some of the HA members were in "Gimme Shelter" like the guys with the pool cues and the guy that threw that big wasted hippie off the stage during "under my thumb" around 1:22 and any others.
@@albertmedel6130 from what I remember it was a sportster with the rear frame struts & swingarm removed, cut and a rigid hardtail welded on, with extended front forks.
A true story.. Auckland were the first charter outside the USA.and in the very early 1970s they went to Napier nz where there was an m.c. called the outlaws,held them at gunpoint at a local river...tutaekuri The outlaws were not associated with the American outlaws but it was scary stuff.l.o.l. There's a story George.. it's true too.
@@Chris-m8e NZ was earlier than any other international chapter..I didn't say they started in the early 70 s just that was when they visited Napier. They started a chapter in Auckland in the 60 s.
do you have any insights on the quebec biker war with rock machine and dark circle and on the laval north chapters elimination .. in a book i read by crime reporter yves lavigne he stated the new york chapters representative went up to montreal and was shocked bout what happened to north chapter
Bear told me Tramp was his roommate for awhile and maybe Tiny and another Angel and handling distribution for him because he figured anyone would have to be nuts that'd double cross them. He also told me there was a gun battle at his house and I assume they were probably involved..
I have always thought the HAs were the last of the free men. Listen to the stories, I’m surprised at the politics. I met some of the members when I live in LA in the 1980s. I have always respected the HA.
Hey George. Thank you so much for your insight on the history of the Angels. I have a question about Sonny and the importance of him being in Oakland during the counter culture movement and specifically Altamont. If he was a president in say SFV then would it matter or would have he still have been the man?
The website find- a- grave, shows the name and location of his grave. It also has many great photos of him and a picture of his headstone that multiple people have shared.
I'm sorry, I take what you say with a grain of salt, members of your own charter's account of things differ greatly from your own on social media interviews.
Brotherhood the greatest lie ever told 🙏🏼
Depending on WHO’S telling the lie. Don’t put much stock into certain people that gift you with advice, but be patient with certain ones that find the time to gift it.
Brother usually means "you have something and I don't
Great book by Pee Wee
I think this comment went over a lot of these guys heads lol
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Thank you, George for the history lessons.
As a lifelong rider I really enjoy your videos. Including photos would make them so much better. Thanks for doing them.
Would love to hear some stories of big Vinny from NY. God bless you George. You are a good man.
Always interesting to here from you.
Thank You, George !!
To where from him?
Terry, Slave Lewie and Fu Griffen are probley 3 of the coolest looking Angels in my opinion. And you George are the definition of the ideal leader...level-headed, willing to think before acting and the type to be in the trenches right along with those you led. I could listen to your stories all day. Would have loved to live that lifestyle, but it would have had to have been in the 60s when it was all about having a good time and living life on your own terms, before all the politics got in the way.
Always good to hear from you George
Good morning George! I've been enjoying the shows!
Thank you, George. The Hells Angels are an important and unique part of American culture. Someday they will be gone. All good things must come to an end eventually. Your writings and videos are an essential part of their history.
Great job George. Your content definitely is the greatest of all biker channels out there.
Thanks so much for
Keep it coming George,Keep it coming!!! P.B., Mass.
George, you have a gift for communication. I think you are really hitting your stride here. I am happy to subscribe and have high hopes for your continued contributions. Good on ya!
Enjoyed the added info. Thks. I met Sonny after he came to AZ & got to “ know “ him thru the yrs. His “ word” was law to almost all MC & Recovering Club. He wanted everyone to wear “ support HA “ patches. I use to get invited to all the events & got to many members!! I knew Jaybird & talked with him at some events but didn’t like him at all. What I noticed as an outsider, that every charter seemed to be different from the other. I live in Tucson but spent 3 yrs in Phx. So I was around them lots of times. I attended every Prison Run & they were so much fun. I got to ride with them many times as they would come to Tuc & escort diff Clubs there. I will say, I have NEVER been so excited & impressed with any 1% Clubs riding style ‼️. I always tell ppl on other sites that it was of my best memories. I would be curious to know how all u guy’s learn how to ride so fast & so tight?? I asked S one time & he just laughed & said smart ass remark. 😂. Hearing your story & info has me thinking about a lot of stuff I observed & heard. I’m a therapist with a MSW degree from U of WA. So by nature I’m curious & observe ppls behavior. Also grew up on the streets beginning in 64 when I was 12 yrs old. I had to survive & reading ppl was my way of life. I’m going to keep on listening to your podcasts. I’m glad you’re happy & doing well ‼️. MLHR Always.
I enjoy listening to you George
ThankYou 👍✊️
Terry was awesome in angels 69, cool ass dance scene and the ending when tramp dumps the canteen and takes the keys ha Magoo was cool as shit in that movie too another legend 81 guy
Rest in Peace: Terry the Tramp.
I read a comment from someone else regarding the previous video where Terry's death was described. That person used the old saying, "with friends like Sonny, who needs enemies." Seems like Sonny might fit the personality profile describing a narcissistic psychopath. Intelligent, goal oriented, manipulative, ruthless and calculating.
You think In 13 minutes you know all about Sonny Barger?
@@onazram1 13 minutes? No...... but being in the life and following someone for 50+ years, a person gets to know a little bit.
Wow
Sonny did what he thought was best,we know nothing about what really happened
Good stuff as usual George 👍
Informative and fascinating as always 👍👍👍
Thank you George for your personal accounts - interesting. Does it ever blow your mind that you are alive and well - living a good life and able to tell your life stories on a thing such as the internet.
Wonderful to see you my friend, I look forward to each video. I agree, jealousy and instead of working things out among brothers, some choose to bring each other down. Blessings, stay safe❤
Hi George, I would like to hear some stories about Doug "The Thug" Orr when he was in Oakland, how he ended up in San Quentin, etc.
Would love for you to talk about Big Vinny , Sandy and reception of Hells Angels Forever Documentary
I think he's wanting to hang out with K R
Thank you George for telling the stories. My dad Whitey was brothers with all of them so that made them my uncles and they were all very wonderful.♥️ very much love, including Terry, the❤ tramp
Hi George!! Hope you're doing well!! Best wishes to you!! 81 FOREVER!!
*_I can't believe all the drama that exists with the tough, hard core outlaw bikers. Seems like ALL the Southern Ca charters should have broke off and gave sonny the finger. Go back to the betty patch, put the So Cal rocker back on and go on without Oakland._* 👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣
@@opieshomeshop man out In bad standing Mr perfect Christie stories are to be taken with a pinch of salt
Yep
That was your true bother looking out for you by filling you in. There's that bond that can't be broken when you go to school/grow up together. A whole crew of my classmates were hired at GM and they tried 10ways to Sunday to break us up. The Union even got nervous and couldn't figure the bond out .
Very good! ❤️👍
Great show
You imagine all the old Bikers with these same feelings but they aren't in the position to talk about it or get out. Locked away or broke will keep you a member in good standing in most circles, not just the Biker world
In 73 I was in the Bay area and got to talk to someone that had been at Altamont.He told me from what he could see the and hear was Hippies calling HA's "Pigs" for being security and then knocking over some bikes.Before bikes got knocked over he said a member got on a microphone and explained to the crowd they were only trying to keep people off the stage and away from other equipment and enjoy the show,not trying to be "Pigs". The name calling didn't stop and things escalated,getting even worse after bikes got knocked over.I think it's suspicious that if the members announcement to the crowd was filmed,it is omitted from any footage I've seen.
Makes perfect sense when you consider most dudes who join a club feel like outcasts / misfits so they naturally have a chip on their shoulder for popular folks...
good stuff george keep it comin i think it would be cool to show clips of altamont and have you do some commentary not sure if the other charters would be cool with it or not just my 2 cents thanks
Image partying with Jack Nicholson and Terry on Hells Angels 69. Had to be a wild ride.
I was at Altamont and was behind the stage area on the opposite side of the HA bus. When Marty Balin jumped off the stage to interfere with some members or prospects, he got knocked out. That's when I decided it was time to go back up the hill to the racetrack where our limo was parked. It was nothing but chaos fueled by too much alcohol, LSD, and other drugs. People were crazy and that's why the Angels were beating on them to keep them away from the stage which was way too low. On the way back up the hill, I saw Mich Jagger being escorted down by two big, uniformed security guys. He was muttering something like "Don't let them get to me'. I guess he had been punched by someone after landing by helicopter at the race track. In my opinion, the Stones caused a lot of the turmoil at the end by refusing to come out and play for almost an hour and people were getting pissed off. You can see it when Bob Roberts threw that guy that was making all the weird faces off the stage.
May god bless terry and his memory live loud!
Love your stories,as a old time sacramento guy,would like to hear your thoughts about Lonesome , and the. N.Sacto fellas, thanks for all the old stories,sacto Jim....
Envy is one of the 7 deadly sins.
Christie would know he is eaten up by it.
I have almost read Georges book Exile on Front Street im not a biker but i respect the HAs always have and always will God Bless The Fallen Angels from England .
I would like to hear about Tiny and what happened with him.
GOTTA LOVE THE TRAMP FOREVER
George,Thanks for mentioning George werthen.he was a big dude.the book was quite the ride.
what was the book thanks in advance
@@az0970449 it is titled "an awayward angel" George Werthen.--my spelling?
@@az0970449A Wayward Angel.
Many conflate envy with jealousy. Jealousy is actually a biblical concept, as God is a jealous and wrathful God.
Jealousy is a feeling when somebody messes with something that belongs to you, envy, is a feeling that you get when you want something that belongs to someone else.
Just figured I’d clarify that
Did Terry have that Red panhand??? In the move???
Much respect George
I was at Altamont. The stage was really low and there was no way the people weren't going to surge onto the stage. I went to many outdoor concerts in NorCal and none of them turned out like that. There was a lot of destruction, and it was a complete mess. People crapping and pissing everywhere. Nothing was ever the same
I was a senior in high school in 1967 and Hunter Thomson's book talked about Terry the tramp. I think his brother was a priest. We wore the pages out of that book
Hey George! I believe you were trying to say jealousy was a motivator! I can’t get my words accurate all of the time, I feel that fits though
Thanks
Glad I found your channel George. I just watched the other video on Terry and have to say, if true, I find it shocking. From your point of view of course it probably isn't but I never had any inkling that level of treachery was going on with HA and Sonny.
there's psychopaths ...at every level of the criminal underworld.
The Angels were put in an impossible position that day. I’ve always believed that a lot of the blame lies with The Stones due to the shambolic way the show was handled. And yes, Meredith Hunter,as sad and as tragic as it was played a huge part in that. He pulled a gun and pointed at the stage…what did he really think was going to happen? Of course I wasn’t there and it’s easy to have an opinion on something that you didn’t experience yourself. But I’ve read a lot about Altamont, and I have no doubt that a lot of people were to blame for what happened that day, but the Angels did nothing wrong!
Thanks George
Hey george,would like to hear about Big Armand😎
Thanks for sharing all the good and bad of outlaw culture. I’ve learned a lot from your interviews and going to follow you some good stuff
Hunter. S.Thompson would sometimes use a tape recorder when interviewing people for his books. Here's a link to his interview with Terry the tramp part 1 . Part 2 should be close by. ua-cam.com/video/9Vupr7p5EwA/v-deo.htmlsi=xfNBFNTBSLgw6E_y
Here's part 2 . Terry talks about being stomped by a club called the Diablos . ua-cam.com/video/mLaSSo18rzk/v-deo.htmlsi=qXmNNNeUdOUTVWFA
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Terry did stand out in that movie and kinda outdid Sunny in acting.
i stopped tripping at altamont. i'll never forget that fox hat; hilarious that he wore that to be anonymous! i had no idea who he was, other than he was an angel. not till i saw the previous video of yours. a bunch of angels sitting on a bus, "distributing" cans of beer at a high rate of speed...
I sure would like to know who some of the HA members were in "Gimme Shelter" like the guys with the pool cues and the guy that threw that big wasted hippie off the stage during "under my thumb" around 1:22 and any others.
Animal was the guy with the fur hat.
GREAT CHAT GEORGE. {M.G}orig TORONTO, CANADA.
George, did you ever see Big Vinny on a motorcycle ?? Have never seen any pictures of him on a motorcycle.
In the Hells Angels Forever movie he is shown riding a "welded on hardtail" sporty during the Laconia N.H. scenes..
@@jenniferanne4143 "A hardtail sporty "?
@@albertmedel6130 from what I remember it was a sportster with the rear frame struts & swingarm removed, cut and a rigid hardtail welded on, with extended front forks.
A true story.. Auckland were the first charter outside the USA.and in the very early 1970s they went to Napier nz where there was an m.c. called the outlaws,held them at gunpoint at a local river...tutaekuri
The outlaws were not associated with the American outlaws but it was scary stuff.l.o.l. There's a story George.. it's true too.
Can't be first outside USA early 70s 1969 London England charter started
@@Chris-m8e NZ was earlier than any other international chapter..I didn't say they started in the early 70 s just that was when they visited Napier. They started a chapter in Auckland in the 60 s.
Flash, gives a very detailed account of what transpired at Altamont in an interview on the Soft White Underbelly YT channel.
do you have any insights on the quebec biker war with rock machine and dark circle and on the laval north chapters elimination .. in a book i read by crime reporter yves lavigne he stated the new york chapters representative went up to montreal and was shocked bout what happened to north chapter
DO THE RIGHT THING AND GIVE THE ASHES BACK!!! You know they're snooping...
Would have been a better presentation if there were some photos of Terry the Tramp.
I doubt Kieth wants to relive Altamont. The HA’s didn’t look like they messed around back then.
its that old male ego its a headbanger thanks for all yr insights yr a handsome man by the way lol
The Lady &
Terry The Tramp….!
Class
Bear told me Tramp was his roommate for awhile and maybe Tiny and another Angel and handling distribution for him because he figured anyone would have to be nuts that'd double cross them. He also told me there was a gun battle at his house and I assume they were probably involved..
I have always thought the HAs were the last of the free men. Listen to the stories, I’m surprised at the politics. I met some of the members when I live in LA in the 1980s. I have always respected the HA.
Any stories about Canada 81. Like the Ontario clubs patchover in 99/00 new years in Montreal?
By god sonny must have been a jelous bum.that he was.one on 1 guys bring it on your best day when your feelinf your best.
George, what bike you riding these days?
George, can you do an analysis of Wethern's book "Wayward Angel" (1978)? You mention it here. How authentic is it? How much BS? Thank you.
George 💪💪💪
Hey George. Thank you so much for your insight on the history of the Angels. I have a question about Sonny and the importance of him being in Oakland during the counter culture movement and specifically Altamont. If he was a president in say SFV then would it matter or would have he still have been the man?
Thanks George. It's an honor to get to hear your words.
Jealousy. Everybody wants to see you doing well. Until you do well
YOU ONLY KNOW WHAT YOU DONT KNOW KEEP THE UNKNOWN AND KNOWN UNDER THE DONT NEED TO KNOW. DAMN YA KNOW
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I have a question, since sonny is dead, how many people do u think he had clipped?? How many did he do himself??
What about a brother name Kirby ???? In that time frame???
Where is Terry buried? Find a grave tells me St Mary’s Cemetery in Oakland but many people say Calvary Catholic Cemetery in Sacramento County?
The website find- a- grave, shows the name and location of his grave.
It also has many great photos of him and a picture of his headstone that multiple people have shared.
Do a episode on zoro thanks man
You gotta hand it to the club members who where involved in the altamont stabbing, they brought a knife to a gunfight and won.
Was Blind Bob also taken out this way?
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Interview FLASH !!!!!!!
George Big Vinny and Irish ???
Karma got the "voice" I love karma!!! Its real 😮
wonder if terry is taking care of business now him and sonny back together
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Hells angels 69 is on here 😊
Reach out
Hey George, can you do a video on the satan slaves?And why are they not around anymore
I'm sorry, I take what you say with a grain of salt, members of your own charter's account of things differ greatly from your own on social media interviews.
Guyzilla is my Uncle