Worst Jury Decisions: America Edition

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  • @brainblaze6526
    @brainblaze6526  2 роки тому +33

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    • @stuffhappensdownsouth9899
      @stuffhappensdownsouth9899 2 роки тому

      yeah I knew this was gona be a euro trash big brain tryin to shit on what freedom mercans got left you know why we need a jury ? cuz no matter what Fd up law some elected official manages to bribe or blackmail through the 12 random common people can enol and strike down injustice so freedom can prevail the real problem is WHO selects the juries' THATS where the problem is!

    • @theCidisIn
      @theCidisIn 2 роки тому

      You can also wanna you're right you a jury trial to have the judge decide.

    • @tim6788
      @tim6788 2 роки тому

      Merry Christmas Blaze Boy!

    • @StfuFFS
      @StfuFFS 2 роки тому

      The McMichaels were found guilty. So... a white jury found 3 white men guilty of the murder of a black man... how does this prove America is racist? I feel like it proves the opposite, right?

    • @CAP198462
      @CAP198462 2 роки тому +1

      🤔 playing sudoku is a big brain activity fakt Boi.

  • @astralshore
    @astralshore 2 роки тому +94

    Simon saying “she did get a murderer off though” with a straight face.

    • @Feszy_
      @Feszy_ 2 роки тому +9

      23:03 He didn't realize the double entendre there

    • @utility63
      @utility63 2 роки тому +6

      *ba-dum tiss*

    • @kalebnolan8343
      @kalebnolan8343 2 роки тому +6

      It sounds like she got him off in more than one way..
      AM I RIGHT PETER?!?

    • @omniunown
      @omniunown 10 місяців тому

      Yeah she did

  • @maledictionwolf
    @maledictionwolf 2 роки тому +317

    Simon completley missing all the sarcasm in the last entry is beautiful.

    • @thelegalliam
      @thelegalliam 2 роки тому +21

      Tell me about it!

    • @tubensalat1453
      @tubensalat1453 2 роки тому

      Maybe stuff relating to Black Lives Matter were not reported in Prague?

    • @astralshore
      @astralshore 2 роки тому +34

      I think Simon was having an off day. I laughed my ass off at Liam’s sarcasm 😂

    • @jacquelynsmith2351
      @jacquelynsmith2351 2 роки тому +3

      @@astralshore ditto. Loved it

    • @old_man_fran
      @old_man_fran 2 роки тому +5

      Yep, he sold Liam short

  • @RHCole
    @RHCole 2 роки тому +185

    CHRISTMAS BLAZE, BOIS!

  • @jenniferhof9448
    @jenniferhof9448 2 роки тому +362

    I've had to serve on a jury before, and I didn't try to get out of it. Mainly because if I ever happen to be on trial myself, I would hope that the "jury of my peers" actually includes my peers and not just "the people who couldn't figure out how to get out of it." Some of us crazy people actually want to do our civic duty. I know, crazy. lol

    • @AnonEyeMouse
      @AnonEyeMouse 2 роки тому

      Simon's too small brained to comprehend civic duty. Or, indeed, tell names apart if they start with the same letter.

    • @vickiewallace415
      @vickiewallace415 2 роки тому +14

      Good job!!

    • @Istandby666
      @Istandby666 2 роки тому

      Your mental illness is showing

    • @NavneetRao
      @NavneetRao 2 роки тому +29

      Thank you for doing your duty. I feel the same way.
      I understand that it's an inconvenience, but it's a person's life and fate that's being judged! It's definitely not something to joke about, IMHO.

    • @Istandby666
      @Istandby666 2 роки тому +2

      @@NavneetRao
      The law is a joke and so are all those who practice it.
      You should really feel bad about yourself.

  • @SoLongAndThanksForAllTheFish.
    @SoLongAndThanksForAllTheFish. 2 роки тому +102

    My dad was once being considered for jury duty and the Defense lawyer asked him if he believed in “street justice”. He replied “the law is the law” and they immediately requested that he be replaced. 😂

    • @RHCole
      @RHCole 2 роки тому +45

      Oh, their client was guilty as FUCK! LMAO

    • @discgolfcasaus
      @discgolfcasaus 2 роки тому +9

      Wow...

  • @evilwelshman
    @evilwelshman 2 роки тому +81

    8:26 Not sure if Simon realised this in post, but it sounds like it was more than just the juror needing to get married a little later and at a venue different from their original choice. From the sounds of it, jury duty straight up cost the juror their marriage - as in they didn't get married and the relationship fell apart - due to their serving jury duty and the disruption is caused in their life and relationships. That's why it got lumped together with the people who lost their jobs and placement in university.

    • @ceeno9042
      @ceeno9042 2 роки тому +32

      Honestly if a marriage can't handle a delay and the messyness from that, probably best it didn't go through

    • @lanfae9353
      @lanfae9353 2 роки тому +17

      @@ceeno9042 Do you know how expensive weddings are? Depending on how many reservations were nonrefundable, the couple could've been out $20,000 or more. That kind of financial stress can kill a relationship, even if it was previously solid. Imagine pouring your savings into this and losing all of it. Even if it's not the woman's fault, I can imagine why her fiance might've felt some resentment

    • @Jaccep
      @Jaccep 2 роки тому +18

      @@lanfae9353 I'm of the opinion that if you're setting up *non-refundable* weddings, well ahead of time, and you're not able to weather any potential financial problems that could result from it, you're not planning responsibly to begin with.
      Weddings CAN be expensive, but they are not de-facto expensive.

    • @lanfae9353
      @lanfae9353 2 роки тому +15

      @@Jaccep Yeah, I mean, ideally you'd communicate with your fiance to work things out, and if some money was lost along the way, plan a cheaper wedding for the reschedule, but don't forget, they probably couldn't even talk to each other for most of the time she was gone. Depending on how high-profile the case is, they can force the jury to stay in hotels and have only limited contact with family. So that would make it hard to communicate and sort out any misunderstandings or resentment about the whole situation. I don't think the fiance was in the right for leaving her, but I'm just saying I can understand what sort of position this put them both in, and the court should've been forced to pay out compensation for the losses all those jurors experienced.

    • @comettamer
      @comettamer Рік тому +2

      That's precisely it.

  • @adamcavanaugh4940
    @adamcavanaugh4940 2 роки тому +42

    I honestly was excited to be on a Jury. I was hoping to nullify if there was a victimless crime. But it ended up being a violent felony, and the guy admitted to the requirements on the stand. We convicted him in about 5 minutes on the first charge.

    • @apriljk6557
      @apriljk6557 Рік тому +2

      Legend.

    • @Kitsudote
      @Kitsudote 8 місяців тому +2

      Careful now. You used a very naughty word...
      nullify

  • @DarkSnideoftheRainbow
    @DarkSnideoftheRainbow 2 роки тому +101

    Poor Liam is going to get extra lashes tonight after Simon got confused by the script so many times.

    • @thelegalliam
      @thelegalliam 2 роки тому +13

      Tis the christmas gift

    • @eliharper6616
      @eliharper6616 2 роки тому +6

      @@thelegalliam oooo. Sign me up Santa

    • @keithv708
      @keithv708 2 роки тому +1

      No he will be in THE DUNGEON.

    • @Gos1234567
      @Gos1234567 Рік тому

      It was written pretty badly.Simon is correct for once

  • @Noah_E
    @Noah_E 2 роки тому +46

    I've gotten jury duty notices a few times and got dismissed as soon as I tell them I do securities litigation consulting. They don't want people in a jury that have knowledge of the legal system. The dumber/easier to sway the better

    • @matthewgeorge234
      @matthewgeorge234 2 роки тому +5

      I've seen several lawyers get jury duty. Not sure what that says about the lawyers.

    • @tiryaclearsong421
      @tiryaclearsong421 2 роки тому +10

      @@matthewgeorge234 I've only seen a handful of academics get jury duty. Most of us would happily serve but if they can get rid of anyone knowledgeable about anything, they try to. My PhD advisor ended up serving on a case once and it is one of the only times I have ever seen it happen. He's a genius and I wonder if they just asssumed he would be a fish out of water in a murder trial since he researches physics. While it is true that being an expert on a niche physics topic makes you an expert in nothing else, being smart and hard working enough to get a PhD tends to come with the ability to listen to biased arguments, consider your own biases, take decent notes on boring subjects, and make some level of hypothesis about where your vote should lie based on the jury instructions the counsel will basically spoon feed you.

  • @mrfloppylxix9810
    @mrfloppylxix9810 2 роки тому +29

    I was always a little on edge with the whole "just tell them how you're an asshole" line of thought when it comes to getting out of jury duty, and now when I get called to jury duty I tell them im really excited to sit on a jury and cant wait to do my civic duty! I've still never never sat on a jury.

  • @msdaphne
    @msdaphne 2 роки тому +77

    Simon not getting the sarcasm. Oh dear. I have never felt more for a writer. This is me, all the time. I'm sarcastic and it just falls flat.

    • @PFMediaServices
      @PFMediaServices 2 роки тому +2

      Same. Often in comments online, but it's also happened in my real life which can be rather unfortunate.... 😜🍍

    • @msdaphne
      @msdaphne 2 роки тому +1

      @@PFMediaServices yes with the online comments! (And yes with real life) But it is so annoying when I make truly amazing comments and there is zero response and other people say the most inane things and it's all thumbs up and responses.

    • @MrVanWildest
      @MrVanWildest 2 роки тому +4

      @@msdaphne stop flattering yourself, toots.

    • @Ajee02
      @Ajee02 2 роки тому +1

      mf really said toots in the year of our lord 2023

    • @msdaphne
      @msdaphne 2 роки тому

      @@Ajee02 right?? So weird. Did we fall down a time portal? Like, please find a more modern way of name calling me, if that's your go-to, "toots" guy.

  • @PunknPixels
    @PunknPixels Рік тому +4

    Simon unintentionally recapping WKUK's Jury Duty skit was a good highlight

  • @Fanney47
    @Fanney47 2 роки тому +1

    Simon, lol. Omg. The sarcasm is just flying over your head constantly in that last one. 🙈🙈🙈🙈🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @kyleleeson4498
    @kyleleeson4498 2 роки тому +15

    Simon singing makes me feel better about my own voice. This was a gift that just kept giving.

    • @swedishmeatball4382
      @swedishmeatball4382 2 роки тому +2

      Maybe I can cheer you up further with a little anecdote.
      A couple of years ago I was pet sitting at my brother's and his girl cat informed me that it was dinner time. As I was opening the tin I decided to entertain her, and began to sing for her.
      She was stunned; she went stiff and folded her ears back as a look of horror was plastered over her little face, with eyes staring in the distance and her mouth agape due to the audial torture.
      After a minute or so she regained her composure and set off, far away from the horrors in the kitchen.
      I promised her to never ever sing for her again, but I have considered making mix tapes of me singing and selling theseto people who do not want the neighbours' cats loitering on the property. Any time a cat approaches, the neighbourhood is filled with my "singing" but the cat would run away ASAP. Of course the human neighbours might find this a tad annoying too, but, oh well. The best thing that I wouldn't really have to care about holding a tune or knowing the lyrics as long as it sounds godawful.

  • @malcolmduncan
    @malcolmduncan 2 роки тому +6

    'Did get a murderer off' might the funniest unintentional, i think, line given context in brain blaze history.

  • @cynthiasimpson931
    @cynthiasimpson931 2 роки тому +174

    I've sat on quite a few juries. I find it fascinating, even though it's a lot of "hurry up and wait," but I worked for the military for 22 years so I'm used to that. One of them was a murder/arson trial, and the prosecution absolutely didn't prove their case. This was decades ago, so I can talk about it now. Also, don't knock us grannies (and us ladies who are granny-aged but not grannies) because a lot of us have learned how to spot nonsense from light years away. Since I'm retired I'm a good bet for juries, unless they don't want someone smart on the jury. A good way to not fall asleep while on a jury is to take very copious notes. Oh, and Simon - my husband plays Sudoku. He's a big brain.

    • @mangosteen4230
      @mangosteen4230 2 роки тому +8

      Why shouldn't people knock up grannies?

    • @michaelpipkin9942
      @michaelpipkin9942 2 роки тому +10

      @@mangosteen4230 Grannies need love too...

    • @K0h4ku42
      @K0h4ku42 2 роки тому +11

      Props to a badass granny! Thanks for sharing!

    • @ScottGrammer
      @ScottGrammer 2 роки тому +5

      Some jurisdictions (in America) forbid jurors from taking notes.

    • @chlorineismyperfume
      @chlorineismyperfume 2 роки тому +6

      Too right about our oldies. My ma is still working in antenatal clinic at 72 and is valued so much by all her student nurse and midwife students. A mind sharp as a tack with 50 years of active nursing experience goes a long way.
      Yes they slow down and the generation now that age didn't have the exercise and health advice my GenX generation started getting so they're slow and stiff but not the mind.

  • @wolfvontyr2266
    @wolfvontyr2266 2 роки тому +7

    I served on a jury once, I rather enjoyed it.
    Everyone knew what they were there to do and got down to it, everyone took it seriously and approached it professionally, plus the jury members got to know each other a little and that was fun. Different people from different walks of life. People you may otherwise never have met. Its one of those times where you see people pull together with a communal understanding, knowing that what we're doing in that room matters and has someone else's future in our hands. Seeing the other side of the law system that you never see... not even in court dramas!
    Talking to the Tipstaff (the judge's right hand man, he handles the jury among other things) and he mentioned that you need 20 years military experience to be a Tipstaff! He served as a peacekeeper in Eat Timor! Also, that the longest case he'd been on... 18 months!!
    Despite the case we had, it was a great experience. Learning something new, seeing something new, and certainly something I'd do again.
    The case was... drumroll please.... multiple sexual assault and rape of a 12 year old girl.

    • @butcheredalive
      @butcheredalive Рік тому

      I’d try to get out of anything involving children but otherwise I’d be up for it

  • @SpectrumAnalysis
    @SpectrumAnalysis 2 роки тому +13

    23:04 "She did get a murderer off"
    IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE!
    Missed a golden opportunity, Whistle.

    • @MrTim2031
      @MrTim2031 Рік тому +1

      Are we seriously not doing phrasing anymore?

  • @aethergasm
    @aethergasm 2 роки тому +10

    I got called for jury duty this year. On the reply I just checked off a box that asks if I have a mental or physical condition that would affect my ability to do my duty. I just checked the box "yes" and they move on. It says they may check up on this but usually just take your word for it. They do make accommodations for disabilities to fit your needs, but I am a homebound agoraphobic and I was mid medication change, so suddenly having an emotional meltdown for no reason would have been not great. This is Canada, btw. I thought they would need my doctor's note for proof, but it seems like they changed that requirement during the pandemic.

  • @Cameron655
    @Cameron655 2 роки тому +54

    Heh, back in the 90s, I was on jury duty and there was a panel who'd been hearing a fraud case for more than 18 months. I don't know what the verdict was, but the 12 of them did establish a great deal of camaraderie and rapport. They all sat together for lunch, and not one of them talked about the case outside being sequestered in the jury room.

    • @cmaden78
      @cmaden78 2 роки тому +9

      Yeah I've done it too just for the experience, also cuz I thought it important to " be a peer" cuz the person on trial was in my age group and nobody else selected for the jury was so I thought I owed it to the person and also as my civic duty if I was ever in their position I'd want to see someone my own age it was really interesting and by the way I graduated top of my class some of us actually do feel duty-bound it's the right thing to do 🤓

    • @obscureorca
      @obscureorca 2 роки тому +3

      @@cmaden78 that's a pretty admirable thing!

  • @jaeboogie2786
    @jaeboogie2786 Рік тому +1

    Me: awesome a Simon video I missed somehow 4 months ago, clicked on video with speed of light.
    Me 7 minutes in: Damn Simon certainly was all over the place with this one.

  • @toriladybird511
    @toriladybird511 2 роки тому +8

    My reason for avoiding duty was so great a judge had to meet me.. they ACTUALLY wanted a 36 week pregnant woman to sit Dury duty.
    The judge was a little astounded I said I was willing as long as when I went into labour they allowed me to come back and breastfeed on demand...
    I got released.

  • @Nisus_Wettus
    @Nisus_Wettus 2 роки тому +27

    I once fell asleep in class and nobody bothered to wake me up not even the teacher. I woke up to an empty class and rushed to the next class.
    The teacher thought it was so hilarious she didnt give me detention

  • @CTA12356
    @CTA12356 2 роки тому +5

    Simon that was the most Nigel Thornberry Laugh at 2:53 😂

  • @giancarlomartinez5630
    @giancarlomartinez5630 2 роки тому +39

    I got out of jury duty by telling them about my PTSD. I grew up in an abusive household and every time the cops were called, they sided with my parents. I don't trust law enforcement anymore.

    • @aliciahowell9617
      @aliciahowell9617 2 роки тому +7

      I get rejected because I was victim of crime as a child. It’s an automatic dismissal despite that I am very open minded. Working as an ER RN exploded me to all kinds of people from all walks of life. You wouldn’t believe some of the stories and totally hard to believe experiences they come in with.

    • @giancarlomartinez5630
      @giancarlomartinez5630 2 роки тому +5

      @@aliciahowell9617 sorry you went through that

    • @aliciahowell9617
      @aliciahowell9617 2 роки тому +7

      @@giancarlomartinez5630 Thank you. That’s kind of you to say. I ended up working in the same Childrens ER that took care of me and helped me get better. It wasn’t a happy time but helped me discover that I wanted to work in pediatrics which I really enjoy.

    • @giancarlomartinez5630
      @giancarlomartinez5630 2 роки тому +4

      @@aliciahowell9617 that's amazing how you were able to take something harrowing and turn it into something positive!!!

  • @kwisin1337
    @kwisin1337 2 роки тому +4

    I feel like i can see the next email being sent to liam now... If it would please the king, do not fire this poor man. His intellect is bigger than we can process at this very moment.....
    Great work man, keep up the superb work.

  • @8D2BFREE
    @8D2BFREE 2 роки тому +8

    I have a working theory all of Simons collaborator don't exist and this is just Simon talking to himself.

    • @fishingwithkar4871
      @fishingwithkar4871 2 роки тому +1

      Does that mean Simon's locked in the basement is this whole office in the basement?

    • @8D2BFREE
      @8D2BFREE 2 роки тому +1

      @@fishingwithkar4871 sure.... and Simon has been dead the hole time, in the basement where he killed his collaborators ...

    • @jeroendebruyne2165
      @jeroendebruyne2165 2 роки тому +2

      @@fishingwithkar4871 No. We are all in his basement and are being kept as viewing cattle. Slowly Simon is showing his true colours as our supreme devine puppet master. His beard is growing and his behaviour and expressions are becoming more irratic every week. We all thought is was Joseph Smith to show us the way, but no ...

    • @fishingwithkar4871
      @fishingwithkar4871 2 роки тому +1

      @@jeroendebruyne2165 lol

  • @TheDieselDaddy
    @TheDieselDaddy 2 роки тому +5

    Whistle Boy you've done it again.

  • @squmplezs9993
    @squmplezs9993 2 роки тому +1

    I started dying laughing when the tangent about sodoku being for old people while I’m currently doing my sodoku puzzle book at 18

  • @variaxi935
    @variaxi935 Рік тому +5

    It is SO incredibly easy to "get out of" jury duty in America that EVERY person I've spoken/listened to discuss their attempts at making it onto the jury after a summons has been unsuccessful in doing so... I can't imagine what the criteria could possibly be, given that the folks in reference tend to be bright enough to understand how to appear unbiased... but maybe those working in the court system are so bigbrained that they can see through that and are looking for something different

  • @BabyMakR
    @BabyMakR 2 роки тому +6

    Just recently in Australia we had a rape trial get dismissed because one of the jurors did their own research at home, printed it out and brought it in for the other jurors to read. As a result, the victim faced the prospect of having to go through all the stress again, with MSM (it was a political staffer raped by another political staffer so was high profile) constantly attacking the victim.
    I'd like to know how much the guilty juror was paid to force the trial to be abandoned (Allegedly).

  • @Yesthatsmyfirstname
    @Yesthatsmyfirstname 2 роки тому +2

    I like how Simon's initially upset that Liam said. Sudoku is for old people, because he plays it...then gets upset that Liam says he plays it 🤣 the whole tangent rant went full circle.

  • @dictatorofthecheese
    @dictatorofthecheese 2 роки тому +25

    I'd really like to see more of Liam. I really enjoyed this and laughed so much it hurts. Time to lock him in the basement with Danny! Merry Christmas to Simon...and the basement dwellers.

    • @thelegalliam
      @thelegalliam 2 роки тому +17

      Thank you!! I shall be sure to do as much more as possible.
      I shall also order much cheese dictator person.

    • @Phoenixash-delfuego
      @Phoenixash-delfuego Рік тому

      @@thelegalliam Thele Galliam is an unusual name, is that Scottish?

  • @MorgaineRiddlePrince
    @MorgaineRiddlePrince 2 роки тому +3

    Liam, being big-brain by using his homework in his workplace so he gets paid for it.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto 2 роки тому +15

    "Guess did get an accused double murderer off" is both an apt and an unfortunate turn of phrase. 🥒🍑😂

  • @JootjeJ
    @JootjeJ 2 роки тому +1

    Merry Christmas one and all!
    As for Suduku: I don't feel particularly old (52) and my children still live at home but I regularly play. As does one of my teens.

  • @jonathanwilliams7436
    @jonathanwilliams7436 2 роки тому +11

    This must be a record for just how high the sarcasm flew above Simon's head. Take a break buddy, have a good Christmas and let's get crackin in the new year

  • @robsquared2
    @robsquared2 2 роки тому +12

    It's fun watching Simon completely miss the writer's sarcasm.

  • @WhitneyAllisonGG
    @WhitneyAllisonGG 2 роки тому +6

    I remember the Jury duty I couldn't get out of. Normally this is the only time I used disability to get out it's 90% effective. Apparently there was someone who was worse than me and it was coin toss. My own mom got a jury duty and I had to go to the jury selection office to explain why she couldn't make it. Well being dead was the first reason why and second she was cremated ash. The office person asked me if I was sure she was dead even with a death certificates.

  • @brendakrieger7000
    @brendakrieger7000 2 роки тому +2

    Merry Christmas 2022🦌🎄🚂💚❤🎀

  • @HellsFurby
    @HellsFurby 2 роки тому

    Liam and Simon gave me the best Christmas gift with this I love Liam give him extra spam. Like this is the most I’ve laughed since my house burned down a week ago 💀💀

  • @Snowdawg2020
    @Snowdawg2020 2 роки тому +4

    Roast and a Blaze!! 👌

  • @DerptyDerptyDUM
    @DerptyDerptyDUM 2 роки тому +5

    "Simon bless us, every one." 🎄

  • @PalmersPhotos
    @PalmersPhotos 10 місяців тому

    12:30 - or, you could play sudoku whilst watching Brain Blaze, like I do. It makes Simon's tangential ranting just melt away

  • @notaspy1227
    @notaspy1227 2 роки тому +3

    Ah Fact Boy with the best gift that can’t be returned. Brain Blaze baby!

  • @sophiam1545
    @sophiam1545 2 роки тому +14

    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all. Simon, writers, memeologists, I have enjoyed your videos all year and look forward to your content in the next year. Be safe, be kind to one another. I hope all those living in Simon’s basement might get out in 2023. Blaze On guys!

    • @stevedaenginerd
      @stevedaenginerd 2 роки тому +3

      You got a funny way of spelling "Blazement" (tm)! 🤣

    • @Istandby666
      @Istandby666 2 роки тому

      Your mental illness is showing

  • @RemlapL99
    @RemlapL99 2 роки тому +2

    Merry Christmas all

  • @Fruitflyonyourwall
    @Fruitflyonyourwall 2 роки тому +3

    An episode about controversial US rulings that the public thinks we’re given the wrong verdict would be super interesting (or court system messed up bad)!! (Maybe more than just the big ones like OJ & Casey Anthony?)

  • @davejones5705
    @davejones5705 2 роки тому +1

    "She got a murderer off." Surely that is worthy of ba dum tsch!

  • @allyshaburns1576
    @allyshaburns1576 Рік тому

    Simon's technical difficulties 🤣 I feel ya lol

  • @mrgummage
    @mrgummage 2 роки тому +1

    Simon: "she did get a murderer off"
    The Joker: "very poor choice of words"

  • @yaroslavpanych2067
    @yaroslavpanych2067 2 роки тому +10

    Even if jury decides something, it doesn't make that legally right. Jury decision doesn't make into precedent.

    • @jimmyjon9970
      @jimmyjon9970 2 роки тому +1

      You genuinely do /not/ know what you're talking about.
      Any trial requiring a jury does indeed have the verdict set by the jury. They have parameters based on what charges are being pressed, so they can't just randomly pick a sentence.
      Is it comforting to /not/ know how stupid you are?

  • @zepher664
    @zepher664 2 роки тому +6

    The writing was great, and dripping with snark. It's unfortunate that the names of Gillian Guess and Peter Gill are easy to get confused with each other, which kinda derails the story a bit, but the trial against Guess afterwards was a pretty big deal and set legal precedents in multiple areas of Canadian law.

    • @thelegalliam
      @thelegalliam 2 роки тому +2

      Thank you for the comment! Seeing people enjoy the writing always brings my day up.
      Yeah, originally this was meant to be just an American one but I couldn't leave the Gill debacle out.

    • @diogeneslantern18
      @diogeneslantern18 2 роки тому +1

      @@thelegalliam I thought the script was excellent Liam, and I truly thought Simon was rather unfair in his comments towards you.

  • @AvB.83
    @AvB.83 2 роки тому

    17:00 Depends on the degree of over-explaining. But then again, you can just fast forward through those bits, I wish we had that back in school...

  • @the-chillian
    @the-chillian 2 роки тому +2

    2:10 -- The jury serves as a finder of fact in the case. When the jury "gets it wrong" then that's indeed the legal outcome of the case, but it doesn't change the actual facts behind the case. When they "get it wrong" it means they came out with a verdict not supported by, well, reality.
    It happens all the time, and it's not terribly amusing when it's a criminal case and they find an innocent defendant guilty. Sometimes it's due to police or prosecutorial malfeasance (incompetent investigation, lying on the stand -- cops do this literally all the time, and everyone knows it -- or concealing exculpatory evidence) but sometimes the jury is just stupid or bigoted.

  • @Emily65888
    @Emily65888 Рік тому +1

    I got invited to do jury duty (UK) but was on my year abroad! Actually devastated 20 yr old me, thought it’d be really cool (I also play sudoku on my phone when I’m on the underground 😅)

  • @abzzeus
    @abzzeus 2 роки тому +28

    The easiest way to get out jury duty is to say you believe in Jury Nullification

    • @noodlelynoodle.
      @noodlelynoodle. 2 роки тому

      I feel like telling them you need to hold your asshole open and on display to render a verdict would work pretty well too

    • @josephrobinson6171
      @josephrobinson6171 2 роки тому +2

      It should be illegal to take someone off the jury for that. It's ridiculous

    • @TheLithp
      @TheLithp Рік тому

      @@josephrobinson6171 Kind of weird it's totally legal to do, but you can't actually admit it.

  • @somethingclever8916
    @somethingclever8916 2 роки тому +5

    Fraud trials are longer than murder trials because money is more important than people

    • @SkuLLetjaH
      @SkuLLetjaH 2 роки тому +4

      Only the money of the rich.

  • @MrJjones543
    @MrJjones543 2 роки тому +17

    I'm pretty sure if you're trying to get out of jury duty, and it's obvious you're trying to get out of jury duty, You can actually be held in contempt

    • @matthewgeorge234
      @matthewgeorge234 2 роки тому +2

      Eh, too much trouble in my experience. Unless you're flagrantly avoiding showing up for selection, in which case, yes, they will drag you to court and threaten you with contempt if it continues.

  • @craigh5236
    @craigh5236 2 роки тому +5

    Being in a relationship with a juror could be considered jury tampering.

  • @AlaskanCam
    @AlaskanCam 2 роки тому +1

    My husband has jury duty coming up… luckily it’s for off season at work. Some states pay $50 a day for jury duty, but that’s $300 less than what he makes in a day at work. He’s my 24/7 carer right now since I had major knee surgery that’s left me basically completely immobile. But he’s going to try to go, it’s better now than during the summer.

    • @kylejacobson9587
      @kylejacobson9587 2 роки тому

      $50? I got paid $10 a day when I did jury duty

  • @Cuorion
    @Cuorion 2 роки тому

    "GILL being found not GUILTY by GILLIAN" was my favorite part of the video. 😅

  • @Phoenixash-delfuego
    @Phoenixash-delfuego Рік тому +1

    "Gil was guilty but Gillian had gills so Gil's guilt wasn't more important than Gillian's gaps." I think that's what he said.

  • @listondavis
    @listondavis 2 роки тому

    At 23:05 'she did get a murderer off essentially'. Gold.

  • @tarajh
    @tarajh 2 роки тому +4

    My sweetie is a Superior Court Judge and he's got some absolutely outrageous stories about the lengths people will go to trying to avoid jury duty. One person claimed a hardship exemption because of their chronic & severe flatulence 🤣

  • @lodgelawyer
    @lodgelawyer 2 роки тому +2

    Re; preemptory challenges, you overstate that a lawyer is "hand picking the jury." He's choosing a finite number of those who will NOT serve on the jury.

    • @AlKohaiMusic
      @AlKohaiMusic 2 роки тому

      Each lawyer is unilaterally curating who may not serve on the jury based on a presumption of a jurors bias. A presumption that does not need to be remotely substantiated. Causes of Challenge are unquestionably vital, you provide a foundation for why you think juror x is biased, and a judge makes the call. It's wild that it's accepted practice to toss a potential juror over what amount to a vibe check. In good-faith even it still feels like pageantry, and in bad-faith it smells a little too conviently of BS.

    • @lodgelawyer
      @lodgelawyer 2 роки тому

      @@AlKohaiMusic It's a nice thought, in a world of a perfect jury pool. That world doesn't exist. Over 30 years, most of my pre-emptory challenges (in civil cases, each side only got 3) were based upon body language, attitude and resume. We all meet people every day who take an instant disliking to us for any number of reasons: it was my job to avoid prejudice against my clients from a potential juror who appeared to take such a disliking to their lawyer. (And if used racially, it could be challenged before the judge, where reasons must be given.).

    • @Vaeldarg
      @Vaeldarg 2 роки тому

      @@lodgelawyer Pretty sure your argument goes out the window with the one in the video where they used all 8 of their challenges to actively craft the jury pool into a favorable one.

    • @lodgelawyer
      @lodgelawyer 2 роки тому

      @@Vaeldarg Anecdotal. I'm sure there are instances where mistaken or empty preemptery challenges might have saved an equally objectionable result. Incidentally, in those courtrooms where they had to be written down and not exchanged, I often struck one or more of the same jurors as my opponent.

    • @Vaeldarg
      @Vaeldarg 2 роки тому

      @@lodgelawyer You realise it was mentioned in the video, and there's of course record of it? Meanwhle your "I'm sure there are.." and "might have" don't have nearly the same weight. And your actual anecdote doesn't say anything as someone doesn't have to interact face-to-face to racially discriminate. (and it probably wasn't just with names on paper: it would've been unlikely for them to pull off removing all 8 black jurors that way)

  • @Danjjkea
    @Danjjkea 2 роки тому +1

    I started a live stream Simon with a lettuce to see what will last longer. Liam or the Lettuce

  • @AnimeShinigami13
    @AnimeShinigami13 2 роки тому +5

    Simon I have to just protest on the matter of Pink Floyd, the Wall, which you were singing. Its about the British school system crushing the individuality of children. That's why the chorus you were singing drones the way it does. Its an artistic choice. Its not representative of the artist's work himself.
    Another crimeshow meme I wholeheartedly approve of, Criminal Minds is good at first, but it gradually becomes more and more focused on plots involving the characters rather than the criminal psychology. And there went a perfectly good series that fit your casual criminalist rule "CSI not Saw" even more than CSI does. Mandy Potimpkin (sp?) the actor you showed, was also of Princess Bride fame. And I was so upset when his character Gideon left the show. :( Gideon's faith was broken by an asshole serial killer named Frank. Though he was also traumatized by killers repeatedly using God or the Devil to justify their crimes. Criminal minds is getting a reboot, and the plot is going to be that a network of serial killers formed to work together during COVID. Can't wait.
    Simon... simon... homie... simon... listen to me... I have a little secret. AMERICA'S JUSTICE SYSTEM IS RACIST! Its like Austin Powers with his coffee IT IS SHIT AUSTIN! There are all these little rules to both the legislative and judicial branches that allow for extremely racist decisions and laws that can still persist to this DAY. If you want an example of this haunting American politics in the 21st century still look no further than a little rule in our Senate called "The Filibuster." There's a reason why I tweet "Fuck your feelings and your Filibuster" to republican senators so much. Its because it was originally meant to prevent laws that were racially just from getting out there and it became a way for scared old white men to air their grievances that nobody else cares about. I desperately want to see it gone and to laugh in Mitch McConnell's turtly face when his platform for being a whiney little manbitch is taken away. And he IS a whiny manbitch. Him and that turncoat Joe Manchin need an attitude adjustment and because of their social standings neither are likely to get it. The filibuster requires that most forms of legislation (and you get a few exceptions per year), get a 60/40 vote instead of a majority vote. Environmental and social justice related bills do not qualify. Which means just about any bill that could make things easier in the United States for poor people like me is nearly impossible.
    What bills are allowed, such as spending, Build Back Better or the Inflation Reduction Act, you only need one or two people to decide they don't want to work with the rest to completely tank it. In this case Joe Manchin (West Virginia, but not a mountain mama) and Kristen Sinema (a big pharma shill) tanked some of the most important parts of the bill. Now we can't stop drilling for oil in ANWAR, which will destroy its ecosystem, and big pharma can charge medicare whatever the fuck they want for insulin. Do yourself a huge favor, if you move to the USA, take extra care of your body because if you or a loved one get diabetes and need insulin, there goes your disposible income. Or don't move here, that would be the safest bet. Kristen Sinema was so reviled because she paid lipservice to Progressive Democrats to get into office and then turned around and did Big Pharma's billing instead. She openly LIED to her constituents to get into office. Her recent move to go Independant is a last minute play to save her neck now that democrats have a slim majority in the Senate. Either she or Joe Manchin no longer have bargaining power. So she's going to have to either give in to the progressives she pissed off and lied to or move camp. In the Mexican Standoff, she blinked, and in the American political system, third party candidates never win. Instead they take votes away from a side causing the other one to win. Which means she is now a professional wrench thrower. She can't do anything else.
    Aaaah Arbury, peremptory challenges couldn't save these three dicks from serious hard time.

  • @Mokster43
    @Mokster43 2 роки тому

    SAM always serving up the freshest of memes, chef kiss💋

  • @dangreen7282
    @dangreen7282 2 роки тому

    Haven't laughed this hard at technical difficulties in ever 😂😂😂

  • @QBCPerdition
    @QBCPerdition 2 роки тому +4

    I actually want to be on a jury, it sounds interesting to see it from that side of things. The only time I was sent a jury notice, however, I was still only 17, so I had to tell them I was not actually eligible. My wife is currently "on call" for jury duty, but I believe her term is up at the end of the year, so I don't think she's going to get called.

  • @Violetcloud80
    @Violetcloud80 2 роки тому

    I've sat on a few jury's... it's so interesting. I never try to get out of it.

  • @noey4560
    @noey4560 2 роки тому

    How far you’ve come, fact boy. Who would have thought that when I saw my first Today I Found Out vid back in the day, that I was looking at the JP Morgan of UA-cam shitposting.

  • @patriciamoppin9404
    @patriciamoppin9404 2 роки тому

    “she got a murderer off”. 👀🤣

  • @ElicBehexan
    @ElicBehexan 2 роки тому +1

    I have been called (and dismissed) from a couple of big cases. Well, one was a change of venue from Tarrant County (Texas) that was a rape/murder case. I was dismissed because I knew too much about certain parts of sentencing. The defense was going to try for an insanity plea and I knew what that meant. The JUDGE leaned over and asked me how I knew so much. Well, I have an interest in serial killers... don't judge, so did my wife. The other was a retrial that actually lead to a change in explaining sentencing in Texas, explaining what lengths of time would be associated with the sentence. However, because the first trial was so public and the State agency I worked for at the time was partly involved (not in the actual trial) I had read everything that the clipping service had given the agency. I was dismissed because I knew too much.

  • @druggafly2511
    @druggafly2511 8 місяців тому

    Pertaining to the bit about over explaining. You made a reference about "NumberWang" being like the stock market and I'm 95% sure nobody in America has heard of "That Mitchell and Web Look". Thank God I know of it because that was a brilliant show.

  • @Vikanuck
    @Vikanuck 2 роки тому

    6:20 “MARGARET THATCHER NAKED ON A COLD DAY!! MARGARET THATCHER NAKED ON A COLD DAY!! 😭”

  • @ridleyroid9060
    @ridleyroid9060 2 роки тому

    The fact that Sam is already using the Ye Jones interview to meme it up is just beautiful.

  • @acronus
    @acronus 2 роки тому +8

    Sweet Christmas gift.
    Thank you Simon, and happy ho ho.

  • @edwardburns3781
    @edwardburns3781 2 роки тому +1

    Get out of jury duty without looking like a bit of a racist: "I will not convict anyone of a crime that I did not watch them commit" got me out pretty quick.

  • @SkunkApe407
    @SkunkApe407 2 роки тому +3

    "He's a bit shouty."
    Yes, Simon. The Clash is "shouty." Welcome to punk rock. Lol.

  • @Hillbilly001
    @Hillbilly001 2 роки тому +4

    Merry Blaze ChristmasBoi! Cheers from Tennessee

  • @stanleymarkley8172
    @stanleymarkley8172 2 роки тому

    First time commenter, long time watcher. Seems obligatory to state this.
    Good advice whistle boi!
    Once told a court room during the questioning that "I subscribed to playboy, for the articles of course"
    The court erupted, all but the lawyers. The judge gave me a chuckle though. Needles to say I was not selected for duty.

  • @Kevindaly382
    @Kevindaly382 11 місяців тому

    I was watching the show "Lock Up" once and they had this old guy on it, whose wife was in for 6 years for a Ponzi scheme and her 70's and he had plead out to probation and he said "I knew I was innocent, but I was not going to leave it up to 12 ppl to stupid to figure out how to get out of jury duty!"😂 LMAO

  • @clairefortier9738
    @clairefortier9738 2 роки тому

    Thank you Simon for thinking about my feelings by making me feel smart 😊

  • @MichaelWarman
    @MichaelWarman 2 роки тому

    Answering Fact Boi's questions:
    1:51 The jury are "finders of fact"; they're the final word on what happened. Appellate courts can reverse verdicts only on the grounds that the law was applied wrongly.
    6:40 Sam Bankman Fried
    9:16 There aren't plea bargains, but there are what are called Goodyear directions, where the defendant can ask (without the jury finding out, and without prejudice to their defence) during the trial what sentence they would get if they changed their plea to guilty there and then, the judge gives a rough sentence, and then has to (approximately) stick to that if D does then plead guilty.
    10:57 Jurors aren't under oath in the same way as witnesses, but do have to take one of various pledges to assess the case diligently, fairly, honestly, etc.

    • @thelegalliam
      @thelegalliam 2 роки тому

      It is worth mentioning though that recently goodyear directions have faced a lot of scruitny in the Court of Appeal. Plus due to how we sentence here it is fairly easy for most offences to just work out what the maximun semtence is likely to be.

  • @amberly0317
    @amberly0317 2 роки тому +1

    Simon: She did get a murderer off…
    Me: BA DA BA DUM TSSS

    • @alexthorold3496
      @alexthorold3496 2 роки тому +1

      Ba da ba dum = they are not turning, thanks google translate 👍

    • @amberly0317
      @amberly0317 2 роки тому +1

      @@alexthorold3496 Google translate always coming in handy

  • @wolfwoodphreak
    @wolfwoodphreak 2 роки тому

    it's a good day, another dank blaze lol!
    big brains unite lol

  • @pixylips
    @pixylips 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve been down such a long term casual criminalist hole I forgot how much I enjoyed a good blaze.

  • @matthewhodgson7388
    @matthewhodgson7388 2 роки тому

    Merry Christmas simon

  • @CoalMnrsDotr
    @CoalMnrsDotr 2 роки тому

    Merry Christmas blaze bois!

  • @arthurdotson9579
    @arthurdotson9579 2 роки тому +2

    I got called for Jury Duty once.
    Me: "I knew this person in high school"
    Court People: "Do you think this would affect your judgement of the def-"
    Me: "He's an asshole, and he did it, I don't care what the evidence says".
    Court People (Later): "You are dismissed."

  • @stmonkeydoom
    @stmonkeydoom 2 роки тому +1

    "She did get a murderer off..."
    In more ways than one, it sounds like

  • @Atomicweasel666
    @Atomicweasel666 2 роки тому +1

    I can't stop looking at the white piece of fluff on your lapel

  • @matselm
    @matselm 2 роки тому

    You have a comment... Sam nails it. It's the circle of Blaze

  • @JadenNeko
    @JadenNeko 2 роки тому

    When he said, "How old are you?" The bloodhound gang song popped in my head: like on the discovery channel.

  • @xamper7543
    @xamper7543 2 роки тому

    I’ve been playing sudoku while watching this video 🤣🤣🤣
    I might also be pooping….
    Who said men can’t multitask lol

  • @marymorgan8067
    @marymorgan8067 2 роки тому

    Me- following all of the Simon Whistler channels.

  • @KristiContemplates
    @KristiContemplates 2 роки тому

    I've been called to Jury Duty, and have never been able to be available.
    1st. Had moved away for uni,
    2nd. Uni exam period, and
    3rd. Was single parent to child still in primary school