I remember watching A_seagull vids on youtube back when I was in Kindergarten. Now I have a wife, 3 kids, and back pain. Thanks for the memories Mr. Gull.
I remember when I was a single celled organism and I heard about the name Seagull from half life 2 deathmatch and now I'm a human being, been a fan for 3.7 billion years. Thank you bird man, very cool.
supports getting to stay alive is strong? so when none of you are helping us in the back, that is balanced? lol "supports should be suffering or the game isn't balanced" embarrassing
Healer class having easier access to their core value than the other two classes is always going to be a problem. Easy access to many heals is a red flag. Though it's the only thing propping up some of the tanks right now tbh. This 3 strategist stuff is the price that is paid for all these things.
They need to add more tanks. Tweak some tanks so they feel more rewarding to play. Not necessarily buff them but make them less clunky. Then games might not devolve into steamrolls
Maybe if Luna ult wasn’t 12 sec and only a handful of characters can ult through her healing on top of being up every 5 minutes, they just need to have them less often
Loki is I think crucial for the teamup. I also find when luna is banned, adam mantis loki on defense is so so strong having loki clones and 2 supports with res is just insane
Seagull !! Glad to see one of your videos on youtube brother. When OW1 came out, your streams taught me the game when I was silver. Hope you can squeeze some good content out of Rivals for a while and keep on having fun on the game so that I can have fun watching said content. GLHF Mr. Streamer
I thought the visual clutter in OW was bad, this is just another level! Especially since you see your own character and its visuals all in the middle of the screen all the time. Just the 1st vs 3rd person view makes the games feel so different IMO
If you think OW was bad then ofc you would find this equally bad cus its new. As someone who has played overwatch for long periods of time, theres only certain times you dont know what is happening and that is when Luna is ulting and cant see the red circles on the floor.
Tried this yesterday...I switch to Loki and it worked... 3rd Support if used right can just be a poke DPS that focus heals on other healers to keep them alive, and with Loki you can or Warlock you can put out some good dmg....With any character actually. I wonder what the best combo is.
Seagull, so glad you're back uploading! I had never played hero shooters when OW came out and you we're the first channel i started watching to improve. I remember the 1 minute Genji game as if it was yesterday. I've been grinding Rivals recently since it reminded me so much of early OW and was wondering what you we're up to. Couple days later i see you upload stuff after... 5-6 years? Wich is when i left overwatch aftter getting top 500. Anyway, like many other people you helped get better with your input and positivity, extremly glad you're back.
Please bro just one round bro just go goats bro one round bro i need my sr bro please bro just one round bro im desperate bro im almost top 500 bro please just one round of goats (time is a circle)
So I was queuing yesterday and I ran into my first “Goats Comp” from a stack of GMs trying to climb after reset and it was the most frustrated I’ve been in this game so far. Hulk Cap Thor with Luna Sue Storm and Mantis. They had multiple sustain/counter ults every fight, and the tanks ran over the backline before we could peel or do anything. Tried burst stuff like iron man and scarlet witch ult but it was just impossible
@@MicDubTV More importantly, they don't do enough damage in Rivals to sub in for Damage. Thor would definitely be in the GOAT herd tho. I could see Fist in there too as he's pretty tanky and plays to that style.
I concede that your miles better than me, but I noticed a lot in the game that you rarely gave out dmg boost buffs during you or your Luna's ult. In general, if you have 3 heals comp, shouldn't mantis be getting away with a lot more damage buffs?
When the supports (Mantis & Luna) have damage output that can sometimes compete or even out damage a DPS while pumping out crazy amount of heal with the BEST ult in the game. Why even bother pick DPS?
According to match data, 123 and 213 comps have a higher winrate than 312 So if you ever feel like you aren't doing enough on your team always swap to a third support and never to a third tank
@@apple8580 it pretty much is that + some supports output so much healing with ults specifically that it takes burst damage nuking in order to stop them. Luna Snow being the most obvious culprit and example.
Technically it does, but only on Strange as he builds up charge for his aoe ability. Once it hits peak charge, he gets an anti heal debuff and has to use the aoe ability to cleanse the debuff. So I assume at some point targeted anti heal abilities will show up on later heroes, being that it is a thing in game already.
They had a wolverine (Because of course) and a simple swap to Mr Fantastic to sub in for tank was a better experience than just running it down on tank over and over again.
I have never won a game with three supports, and I keep hearing its meta it seems to heavily put a lot of pressure on 2 tanks and on dps perform? Could someone give me explanation
I have been thinking recently about this game and Storm and I came to a terrifying conclusion: Goats is viable in this game. Storm has a Lucio speedboost so you run either 3 tank or 3 support and 2 of the other with a storm then just speedboost into the enemy team and win. I apologize for bringing this to your attention, but the horror I felt from this fact must be shared.
You can’t run 3 tank when wolverine exists. They’ll mirror your support number and run you down. It’s not worth it lol. Triple support is as far as it gets
storm is dps goats is 3/3 do you have anything valid to say? overwatch players make loose connections to their shit game then proclaim it the same. overwatch is feces, this is literally not overwatch kapish?
It's the opposite. Storm stops the 3 support nonsense by running down the backline with her entire team. It requires actually comming up though, and people don't really com until GM level and above. But I can see it being a problem at the lower levels where people have way more mechanical skill than game sense.
Thriple support is so stupid if the players are good it hard to put any pressure cause they heal each other dr strange ult mantis ult happens,do it agian luna ult,do it again cloak and dagger ult it so dumb it so hard to bait ultimate when they heal each other and never die normally.
called the triple support meta before this game even came out, putting healers in these hero shooters is always a mistake. Always meta at least on certain points if not all the time
This is the stupidest s*** I had so no healing in a hero shooter that doesn't make it a hero shooter. It just makes it a shooter. The real issue is just finding counterplay that's it and also stop listening to streamers. They're the people who ruin these type of games and turn it into OverWatch 2 and then f*** off cuz they have no loyalty
Tell me how this gameplay looks the same as bronze??? Just have a bunchh of brain dead randos you keep joining that keeps you rank locked.... and I'm too lazy to keep joining LFG posts
I remember watching A_seagull vids on youtube back when I was in Kindergarten. Now I have a wife, 3 kids, and back pain. Thanks for the memories Mr. Gull.
Same as me but i only have backpain. No wife no kid.
@@MrFaceMan
Same
How young are you?!
Guy is 16 years old with back pain 3 kids and a wife
@@billmarley7767
That's pretty funny
I remember when I was a single celled organism and I heard about the name Seagull from half life 2 deathmatch and now I'm a human being, been a fan for 3.7 billion years. Thank you bird man, very cool.
i dont think ive ever actually lost a game with triple support that shit is unfortunately so strong
About to be stronger with Invisible woman I think
supports getting to stay alive is strong? so when none of you are helping us in the back, that is balanced? lol "supports should be suffering or the game isn't balanced"
embarrassing
@@AndrewPastnow it’s even more annoying then it was before
Almost at top 500 and Luna still just randomly dropping irrelevant ults...
Man, this game has some low standards and Im all here for it!
0:40-0:50 Was not expecting that instant gratification, but thank you for that.
Uh oh I've seen an entire game start to fall apart once the meta shifted to 3 supps 👀
Winter is coming🥶
Healer class having easier access to their core value than the other two classes is always going to be a problem. Easy access to many heals is a red flag.
Though it's the only thing propping up some of the tanks right now tbh. This 3 strategist stuff is the price that is paid for all these things.
Brigitte 2: electric boogaloo
This feels like it's going to be like the ow shield meta but instead of a wall of shields its a wall of hp.
goats all over again
They need to add more tanks. Tweak some tanks so they feel more rewarding to play. Not necessarily buff them but make them less clunky. Then games might not devolve into steamrolls
Thing is coming. Very slowly. Hard to move when you're a rock.
This game needs some purple if triple support owns this much
yeah some form of heal cut would be nice. and thats as a support main. they deff feel too strong
honestly that introduces a whole new problem, the issue is more support ults lasting a little too long.
just make supports heals less, problem solved
@@teikl3434 people already bitch about no heals in every game, reducing healing isn't the answer, just the ults are the problem.
Maybe if Luna ult wasn’t 12 sec and only a handful of characters can ult through her healing on top of being up every 5 minutes, they just need to have them less often
Loki is I think crucial for the teamup. I also find when luna is banned, adam mantis loki on defense is so so strong having loki clones and 2 supports with res is just insane
MACE just getting shit on all game for the first point "EZ" typing LMAO
Seagull !! Glad to see one of your videos on youtube brother. When OW1 came out, your streams taught me the game when I was silver. Hope you can squeeze some good content out of Rivals for a while and keep on having fun on the game so that I can have fun watching said content. GLHF Mr. Streamer
I thought the visual clutter in OW was bad, this is just another level! Especially since you see your own character and its visuals all in the middle of the screen all the time. Just the 1st vs 3rd person view makes the games feel so different IMO
If you think OW was bad then ofc you would find this equally bad cus its new. As someone who has played overwatch for long periods of time, theres only certain times you dont know what is happening and that is when Luna is ulting and cant see the red circles on the floor.
Triple support is just getting more obnoxious. With invis girl you just get rotates of luna, invis, dagger over and over and over
where's MACE at? "Free point. Ez."
game has been barely out for a month and we've already got basically goats
Tried this yesterday...I switch to Loki and it worked... 3rd Support if used right can just be a poke DPS that focus heals on other healers to keep them alive, and with Loki you can or Warlock you can put out some good dmg....With any character actually.
I wonder what the best combo is.
Glad to see you posting again Seagull!
strange portals need to be destructible
Seagull, so glad you're back uploading! I had never played hero shooters when OW came out and you we're the first channel i started watching to improve. I remember the 1 minute Genji game as if it was yesterday. I've been grinding Rivals recently since it reminded me so much of early OW and was wondering what you we're up to. Couple days later i see you upload stuff after... 5-6 years? Wich is when i left overwatch aftter getting top 500. Anyway, like many other people you helped get better with your input and positivity, extremly glad you're back.
So glad to see Seagull back and having a good time.
Recently I lost Fauna due to her graduation but now that Seagull is posting again. Close enough. Welcome back my GOAT.
Please bro just one round bro just go goats bro one round bro i need my sr bro please bro just one round bro im desperate bro im almost top 500 bro please just one round of goats (time is a circle)
So I was queuing yesterday and I ran into my first “Goats Comp” from a stack of GMs trying to climb after reset and it was the most frustrated I’ve been in this game so far. Hulk Cap Thor with Luna Sue Storm and Mantis. They had multiple sustain/counter ults every fight, and the tanks ran over the backline before we could peel or do anything. Tried burst stuff like iron man and scarlet witch ult but it was just impossible
Glad to see gameplay on this channel again
Rivals GOATS incoming? Maybe the game wont last as long as we thought
wont happen bc bans exist
Nah, because tanks aren’t how they were in OW GOATS. Much easier to kill imo.
overwatch isn't marvel rivals little timmy no brains lol
@@MicDubTV More importantly, they don't do enough damage in Rivals to sub in for Damage. Thor would definitely be in the GOAT herd tho. I could see Fist in there too as he's pretty tanky and plays to that style.
no?
Love seeing you again brother
When chat said it was a toober, mr Streamer listened... FeelsStrongMan
There is nostalgia in this one.
close enough. welcome back GOATS.
Damn how do you stop 3 supports
3 uploads in a row. The game must be good
I concede that your miles better than me, but I noticed a lot in the game that you rarely gave out dmg boost buffs during you or your Luna's ult. In general, if you have 3 heals comp, shouldn't mantis be getting away with a lot more damage buffs?
When the supports (Mantis & Luna) have damage output that can sometimes compete or even out damage a DPS while pumping out crazy amount of heal with the BEST ult in the game. Why even bother pick DPS?
According to match data, 123 and 213 comps have a higher winrate than 312
So if you ever feel like you aren't doing enough on your team always swap to a third support and never to a third tank
In this game, the tanks don’t do enough damage to do OW GOATS. But 1/2/3 with a main tank is insane, and the tank is less of an ult battery.
Whoops we invented goats again
i am just happy that Seagull seam to be happy
GOATS IS COMING BACK!!!
Why is triple support good anyways? Could someone explain?
Not sure, but maybe the game has no antiheal yet.
@apple8580 no it doesn't.
@@apple8580 it pretty much is that + some supports output so much healing with ults specifically that it takes burst damage nuking in order to stop them. Luna Snow being the most obvious culprit and example.
Technically it does, but only on Strange as he builds up charge for his aoe ability. Once it hits peak charge, he gets an anti heal debuff and has to use the aoe ability to cleanse the debuff. So I assume at some point targeted anti heal abilities will show up on later heroes, being that it is a thing in game already.
three is more than 2
The reason why we dont need role que. This is the reason why
Yeah, Ive had so many games where people switched roles to grab the W.
They had a wolverine (Because of course) and a simple swap to Mr Fantastic to sub in for tank was a better experience than just running it down on tank over and over again.
I have never won a game with three supports, and I keep hearing its meta it seems to heavily put a lot of pressure on 2 tanks and on dps perform? Could someone give me explanation
Missed you seagull!
Didn’t u say u were not gonna play this game during beta ?
Triple support is so strong
it's a shame that so many people don't even want to try it and will just play bad characters.
I get flammed for mentioning triple support, I'm stuck in gold 3 silver 1
You can win with most comps in gold/silver
Welcome back
does the enemy team know that their are other comps than double shield ?
Mace just abuses strange to the top and plays with a stack, I doubt hes aware there are other tanks in the game.
Other team also running triple support
I have been thinking recently about this game and Storm and I came to a terrifying conclusion: Goats is viable in this game. Storm has a Lucio speedboost so you run either 3 tank or 3 support and 2 of the other with a storm then just speedboost into the enemy team and win. I apologize for bringing this to your attention, but the horror I felt from this fact must be shared.
You can’t run 3 tank when wolverine exists. They’ll mirror your support number and run you down. It’s not worth it lol.
Triple support is as far as it gets
storm is dps
goats is 3/3
do you have anything valid to say? overwatch players make loose connections to their shit game then proclaim it the same. overwatch is feces, this is literally not overwatch
kapish?
@@kal_delet wanda is also percent health damage
It's the opposite. Storm stops the 3 support nonsense by running down the backline with her entire team. It requires actually comming up though, and people don't really com until GM level and above. But I can see it being a problem at the lower levels where people have way more mechanical skill than game sense.
A Seagull vid!!!!
isn't that just GOATS COMP?
What is next? That people realize that goats dive is op?
The meta will be mantis, luna, adam with wolverine and strange magneto
B_Seagull on feed when?;
Thanks for ruining the game, knew someone posted about this bs the way ive had at least 6 triple support games
Blame the devs
Gm support here. This meta is atrocious.
222 incoming?
Life uhhh finds a way
Insane
Thriple support is so stupid if the players are good it hard to put any pressure cause they heal each other dr strange ult mantis ult happens,do it agian luna ult,do it again cloak and dagger ult it so dumb it so hard to bait ultimate when they heal each other and never die normally.
It wll returns to goats
Yessss
seems the aim didn't transfer from ow
Supports are so broken they outdps dps because their healing rates are too high :)
Boring to watch not gone lie
This game needs anti heal
just play iron man or groot combo #triplesupportisbad
called the triple support meta before this game even came out, putting healers in these hero shooters is always a mistake. Always meta at least on certain points if not all the time
Youre playing a completely different genre if you take healers out of hero shooters. Theyre a defining feature.
This is the stupidest s*** I had so no healing in a hero shooter that doesn't make it a hero shooter. It just makes it a shooter. The real issue is just finding counterplay that's it and also stop listening to streamers. They're the people who ruin these type of games and turn it into OverWatch 2 and then f*** off cuz they have no loyalty
triple support is so good! But too many people like dps!
i hate triple support adam , mantis BS
Tell me how this gameplay looks the same as bronze??? Just have a bunchh of brain dead randos you keep joining that keeps you rank locked.... and I'm too lazy to keep joining LFG posts
pleasse go goats bro just one game til top 500 please bro i'll be brig plz
mantis seems like the worst strategist
what happened? i thought you dont support this game lol
So 2,2,2 becomes 3,0,3 when everybody gets the damage output, mobility, survivability and whatever goodies of the DPS class? Something like that?
How do I deal with spiderman? 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠
Be Namor. The squid turrets chip him, your spear hurts him, and if he starts to combo you you bubble up.