This is why cycling clubs are awesome.
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- I came back to my club ride too hard after the crash and injured myself. I tried to quietly drop back so I didn't slow them down but they waited for me. The literally, at times, pushed me home. Absolute legends every single one of them. The North Tyneside Riders are a great club.
Been part of a shop ride for the past 5 weeks. I have not kept up with the group once. but they make sure that two or three out the group stay with me. So much support and encouragement from everyone. Makes me work harder to get into the group to pay these kind people back. So they can enjoy a the ride.
Yeah man. Totally cool. In my club, we have the motto, "We ride as one".
My cycling clubs motto is "every man for himself"
Tim Curry in our fixie bikes club the motto is "if you brakes you lose"
We're talking actual real bikes here, lad, not "fixies".
PuroYO I expect disagreement but imo, fixes / single-speeds are the real bikes - unaided, unassisted, pure cycling
Tim Curry is not a motto is a team. Not a solo rider.
We have what we call as "regroup ride". It means that we will stop at a certain check points to regroup. It doesn't matter whether you're a fast or slow. It's compulsory to stop and wait for others. Our motto "no one will be left behind". Our intention is to get as many cyclists as possible and enjoy the ride.
They are clearly total legends, every single one......!
Every single one of them :D
Gone Cycling - So I got my first GoPro this xmas and was researching videos today. I'm a Canadian from Barrie Ontario that married a lass from Morpeth. As I'm watching this I noticed the Grand Hotel which is where we got married 12 years ago. What's the chances of that happening? Anyway, good video and shout for your local club. I ride with the Barrie Cycling Club here in Canada. We come back every other year to Northumberland, would love to catch a ride sometime.
Racing clubs usually don't wait for a dropped rider, sport riding clubs will typically stop at each turn (or the like) on the ride and wait for any stragglers to get back on. If someone doesn't make it back, we'd go looking for them. It's up to the club to decide what type of riding they'll be doing. Now that I'm old, I like the "no drop" clubs. :)
Late to the party but had to comment. Joined a bicycle club earlier this spring. Had ridden a touring bike went on tours on that 3 years prior, purchased a roadbike a year before joining the club so was an ok cyclist to begin with. My progress after the summer training with them was immense. I shared my goals with them, two main goals for this summer which was to make myself fit enough to make a planned cycle tour a bit easier and finish an imperial century on my road bike. They welcomed me into the club and kept up the motivation towards me to achieve my goals. My tour was probably the easiest I have done even if it was the most difficult area to explore, plenty of elevation and long days in the saddle. Then it came to my imperial century target. A few wanted to make it into a group ride. I had planned two routes for the day, one as a backup. 3 guys showed up at the start for the ride to help me along the way. We worked together and when we were close to finishing all of us felt fine and had plenty of energy to add to the route. So we ended up doing a double metric century on the day. Finding an organized group to ride with is essential, especially when the team members support each other when one member is down or chasing his targets. Its also much more fun to ride in a group than solo....;)
This is one of the best things about being cyclist and joining a cycling club. Even in NYC most of the random cyclist I meet are so nice and helpful.
This is what cycling is all about
We've all been there. That's what good riders and clubs do for each other!
dthempel damn right. Actually, this is one of the things I love most about cycling. We tend to have each other's backs.
That's the club I'm proud to be a member of. We are 400 strong now with a wide range of skill levels. Get amongst it!!
Graham Stenning damn right! Love the club :D we must surely be the biggest club in the area by now. 400 members is pretty awesome like :D
I love my club. They helped me get started. They helped me find a bike. They're helping me develops into a racer. I'm so thankful for them.
Blessings to all those folks who had your heath and best interest. I can't wait to get good enough to find me a group to ride with
Someone should make a movie about these Legends
Excellent video! I agree, if you're with the right bike club, then things are great! Nobody should ever get left behind.
It's a beautiful thing when you need a good wheel to follow to make better progress and the whole group helps
mindciller haha when you are on the edge of failure that wheel really is a beautiful thing!
There are group rides that are "No Drop" and that makes it fun. If someone gets a flat the whole group stops.
Then there are rides that are hammer fests "but we will wait for you at a spot" if you get dropped and that makes you faster.
Its always nice to have the stronger riders help the slower ones. I recall getting cramps really bad once and riders in the group took turns pushing me up a hill so I could recover from the cramp.
A Surf see that is awesome. In those situations that hand on the back is a real help :D glad to hear others have good experiences like this
I was going to a spin class and kept improving and trying to keep up with the strongest one in the class, one day after class . One day after class that guy gave me a pair of clip-less shoes and told me how great I had been doing in class. Haven't had a blessing like that in a long time... 😀
Emilio0587 whats his name and the place where he works
We are in South Carolina, his name is Kevin and he works at sunbelt rentals.
Emilio0587 i bike myself and ot seems there are more nice guys like kevin in the biking community like can appreciate our efforts to improve..
Spinning is hard! Good job for keeping that up like. As for the clipless shoes, they are an absolute godsend ha!
The group I rode with when I was stationed overseas never left anyone behind. I would routinely stop and wait or go back to help others out. It's never fun to get dropped and left.
When I use to ride with a team , they were always there for each other, like the old saying goes "leave no man behind"
Riding together can be motivating. Whether it is competition amongst members or just fun rides.
I just started my cycling adventure very recently and decided to try joining a club. Hoping to do a short ride with them Sunday. I only hope they are as nice a bunch as the one you have here. I hope that they understand being new I'm not as knowledgeable but I wanted to join a group because I tend to do better with my training if with others. It was encouraging to see this video though.
One of the clubs I used to race for wouldn’t have even noticed if you’d shelled out the back.
Good stuff, good club, good riders, hope your back to full recovery now and pushing others up some hills
I'm trying to get back following a bi-level lumbar injury in 2010 (did it changing a tractor tire at work). I had surgery and two years of physical therapy, followed by chronic, debilitating pain. Figured I'd never ride again, so I got rid of my bikes and all my kit--except for my very first road bike, which I kept for sentimental reasons: an 80s-era Univega/Shimano/Mavic/Campagnolo Frankenstein's Monster (which I named "Frank" because everyone kept calling it "Frankenbike."
Now, having gained about 40 lbs and with my blood pressure raging, I've restored my bike and have been riding for about a week now. I'm only doing about 8 miles a ride, but it's actually lifted my mood and helped with my chronic back pain. I can't get into the aggressive positions anymore, but dammit, I'm riding again. :)
One day, I hope to find a club like yours. This video actually made me a little misty eyed because I miss the camaraderie. Hope you're doing well. :)
Ian Snyder I'm sorry to hear about your injury. I once destroyed my ankle rock climbing. It took over 3 years to recover so for what it is worth I understand a little of the pain (back pain is horrid even when it is minor, I can't imagine it with a "proper" injury like that).
I'm glad to hear you are on the bike again. I don't know if you are in the uk but if so a lot of place do "sky rides". They are gentle rides with people out for a fun ride rather than aggressive training ride. Might be worth a look to get back into it. I hope the riding goes well mate :)
Gone Cycling Thanks, man. I live in in the USA, in Arizona. I've been passively looking for some kind of group, mostly just to talk with at this point. my schedule is really irregular as I work two jobs and seven days a week (soon to be three jobs), so my rides tend to be in the middle of the afternoon when sane people are indoors. :)
Been making faster progress than expected. Still can't ride in the drops, but I've at least made it onto the big chain ring. :)
Surprisingly, cycling is helping my back pain, so I've become really hopeful about the future. Thanks for taking the time. Hope you and yours are well.
This is awesome.
I'm an 18 year old and have recently been cycling a lot more during lockdown on my trusty mountain bike I've used intermittently for 10 years. At the moment I'm "road touring" with my friends who are doing it to pass the time and get to a destination (normally the park). We've max-ed at 40km (25mi) so far. I've started to realise I'm not like them. I think I like cycling a lot more. I bought my first jersey a couple weeks ago so eliminated the need for a bag and it feels epic. Also bought a saddle bag and mounted a bottle cage. I would say my fitness level is above the average person, since I tend to run, cycle or work out a bit everyday. I want to get more serious about cycling, but don't really know where to start. Do I join a casual/"sports" club (level 1 or 2)? Do I get a road bike? I really want to keep training and pushing myself with like-minded people. Any guidance from anyone would be much appreciated.
Hey frosthopper Recently I got my first road bike after riding an old mtb for awhile and I can say it makes riding on those smooth roads a whole lot more fast and fun. Group riding also adds a whole other level to the sport, so if you can join a club then do, cuz it will help you improve and also some clubs can have some very competitive riders which can add some fun friendly competition to a ride win,win !! . I’m still a relatively new cyclist but I have got to a rather good standard quickly and something that’s gave me more motivation is Strava! Seriously Strava opens up a whole new world to your local roads!! Don’t let it take too much control of your rides but using its features can be interesting and just help You to push that little bit harder. Do some research on road bikes, get to know the sport, ride and have fun. It’s a Lifestyle not a hobby!! 😂😂 If ur buying a road bike get the best you can afford. A good entry level bike on a budget would be the new specialised Allez e5 or trek domane. But if u don’t mind buying second hand then you may be able to get a right good deal there, just learn about the bikes (groupsets, frame materials) and you’ll be able to make a good judgement. UA-cam can help with that.
@@sprightlyrandom1550 Awesome, thanks for your reply. I have Strava so it's giving me some route inspiration, but they put many of the leaderboard and other features behind a paywall recently which is quite annoying.
Anyway, do you plan to continue to mtb or do you like road cycling too?
I'll use the information you gave me to get a good road bike. Thanks.
@@frosthopper5762 I would say I enjoy both mtb and road. I guess i have a lot more roads than mtb trails near me so will definitely be focusing more on the road discipline.
@@sprightlyrandom1550 awesome
No one left behind...we go as a group...come back as a group!!
Very cool. Hope you are better now. Pay it forward!
That's a really cool club to not only wait but to help you out as well. My cycling club is the same too
thats the way to dee it like m8 bit of banter and being there for each other propa clears ya head of a hard days graft keep it up m8 👍
Pretty much my experience with my clubs and other club riders I have ridden. If the group see you struggle they will usually help to get you back. We have all been wrecked and all have needed help. So it does go round.
good club, If they have a no drop policy they followed it. Many clubs have that policy and take great pride in dropping riders.
Tuco Webster exactly. The only time I have ever been dropped was when I agreed with the fast lads to drop me so I could join a slower group. Otherwise on every ride they keep their word :)
+GoneCycling I have joined a cycle club n they are fantastic as they always wait if i drop to far behind n that is what I like about them also if i don't have money for a drink or food they will buy me it n not expect the money back which I find kind and I appreciate what they do
my club was more offensive but motivating :)
+Emmanuel Guzman LOL
Emir Emiroğlu Some light banter helps!
Club or group of casual buddies, go as a group finish as a group, July 2011 I did Edinburgh to London with 4 other guys, no records made but a local charity needed funds, we actually stopped at the same jct then up to the amusement before heading into Newcastle great scenery; we were varying levels but I was always back to front of group - being a road since my BSA javelin Xmas 1980 I was 11; group / club or alone I see another cyclist needs help I’m asking them “you need help?” & even when I’m alone & punctured get many the same offer & i live in West of London #we ain’t all that bad daaaaan sarf lol
That is so cool we do the same get a flat someone missing we wait or go find them
i love cycling but worried i would not be welcomed in a club and be left behind etc so i cycle on my own
Mulberry2000 I thought exactly the same thing before I joined but I was wrong. They are really accepting and most of the rides my club put on are no drop (except the few occasions where I have agreed with them to drop if I was too slow). Have a look at your local clubs. Find a one that specifically caters to all cyclists and you will be good. Some clubs are full on racing clubs and I think it is probable that there is a higher risk of getting dropped in those clubs than others :)
Just ease into one. If they don't come around to you soon they will eventually respect you as one of their own.
It depends on the group. If you join with a group of weekend warriors, the probably won't leave you behind ... but if you join with riders training for races, then they need to put in a certain amount of effort to get ready for their races.
Outstanding.
My first ride , got dropped, got lost. Very stressful, not nice! Club shall remain nameless. A Newcastle Club!
Marco Cyclismo same thing happened to me 😂
Marco Cyclismo ah man that sucks! Sorry to hear it. If you are looking for a good club NTR are worth a look :D
Always nice to help eachother when needed .... next time you'll can do it back
my cycling club once they droped me and left me behind and they said to me.. well train harder to catch up, and that was it for me.. seems to me that your buch are caring.
Fire Line1 that is a shame. Not everyone wants to kill themselves chasing watts. One of the reasons I like the club is for the laugh and good people you meet. Shame the club you joined didn't share that ethos :-/
Well there are more and less competitive clubs.
Can't blame them for leaving you behind if they want to go 50 kph and you go 30, without any injury.
Absolutely right
3 years ago when i used to cycling every weekend once i go cycling with a group of policemen and fire fighter, for me their paddle a little bit faster around 35kmh to 40kmh because them riding roadbike while i used downhill bike to cycling around 15kmh to 20kmh, i only catch them around 10 kilos before i start feel pain and muscle sore on my leg i getting slow down but yeahhh its fun when people understand im noobies and be the wind breaker
Cool folks, beautiful scenery!
Thats amazing man. Seem like lovely people, ive been told not all clubs are like that. Many are quite elitist
kidsofjokes they are good folk. Some clubs focus solely on racing. In one of those clubs I would have been dropped in an instant I reckon. Just a matter of finding a good one :)
Unfortunately that does not apply to all clubs 😔 A lot of clubs in my area seem to have an "everyone for themselves" attitude where even if you puncture.....your on your own. That does apply to road clubs by the way. Since starting mountain biking I have found its totally all for one cause.
Martin Preece it's a shame to hear that. As you can see my club wouldn't even leave me when asked. I think all clubs should have at least 1 no drop ride so that people feel welcomed and part of the team. Must have been annoying to be left even when you had a puncture :-/ Glad to hear you found a good bunch of cyclists though :)
Awesome 🙌 I agree
Nice video. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent
Hello, i have been seeing lot of cycling clubs in the South Korea(because i am a korean :) ), but their members mostly consist of old man and woman. It is difficult to find young cycling member in here. So, i would like to ask about cycling culture in overseas countries.
1. What advantages can people get from cycling clubs.?
2. Which donation events involve with cycling club's activity.?
props to them and to you
Great!!!!
You start together, you finish together :)
You say further down Mark that you are a Geordie . . . . . hmmmm, aye a canny posh one :-)
Mister P hahaha 😂 I guess I flip between semi posh and shouting "what ya deeing man" at random drivers lol
Wey had away man haha.
Back on topic, it is there for all to see that you ride with a good group of decent people. Most group rides I have been on the others seem to be interested in only one thing, getting from A to B as soon as possible then throwing it up on STRAVA and bragging about it.
I'm off STRAVA now, sick of it and at the end of the day the only one I'm interested in beating now is myself :-)
If it was me, I would have just gone on and told him to piss off :D
There are many cycling clubs like that, however i know the feeling you cant keep up and tell the guys to go ahead without you. Better idea is ride as a group then once you are reaching midway point or destination hammer it 3-5 miles so all the fas boys and girls can get their workout on.
rob7177 ha yeah, that is what I normally do when my fitness is down. Draft then blast it for the latter half. In this video injury made that impossible. I actually felt guilty for slowing them down but they never complained once. Good bunch :)
The bests friends I’ve ever had are cyclist.
Hi, do you have the new Hero5 camera? What might be happening is the built in wind reduction mode. Try keeping it on 'stereo only.'
This will prevent the camera from adding some sound filters which help reduce the wind noise. Unfortunately the wind filter can reduce the road noise (noise you want in this case).
Matthew Song thanks for the comment. I discovered what was happening after messing about for a month. The go pro editor has two types of video it converts to: MP4 and Avi. For some reason it isn't fully compatible with avi so I changed the output format to MP4 and it no longer cuts the sound off or has trouble converting videos.
usually clubs have different rides like this that have "no drop"policy? but glad you had a nice experience!
fantastic
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For my club they simply won't drop anyone on the flat, if it does happened we would put that person in the middle of the group so we won't miss him again
Qiuyuan Chen minus a few bad people, I reckon the global cycling community is pretty damn good. Pleased to hear other clubs have the same attitude :)
There are 2 kinds of clubs: Pack clubs which ride together or die. And then there is the speed egoist racing club. They drop you to die just to get KOM on strava.
If your group ride has no reservations about dropping you, it isn't a group ride.
To be fair, they didn’t expect it. I was injured and let them let them ride without alerting them I was off the back. Normally, they would slow if I mentioned I was off the back.
good people, nice to see!
Did you get any commission for this bad lad NORTH TYNESIDE RIDERS group ride
Daniel Thompson 97,000 views and 180 comments... free membership next year? Hahaha 😜 I’m gonna come back to the club soon so you might end up in a video mate :D
Gone Cycling I thought UA-cam may have gave you a little bit
Daniel Thompson nah. I don’t monetise my videos. Plus UA-cam just changed their rules. Pretty sure you need a thousand subscribers or something now.
I won't join a cycling club because I'm a strong believer that if we really want cycling to gain momentum in the UK, we need to both build an infrastructure for, and promote the Dutch/Danish/German attitude to cycling. Whilst a decent infrastructure is half of that, the other half is just making cycling look accessible. This means riding in regular clothes, with no need for a helmet. Cycling needs to, in general, be seen as a safe and relaxed mode of transportation that can be done on a casual basis without requiring any special equipment, clothing or a super light bike. This video is a good watch: ua-cam.com/video/zq28fU2AuMU/v-deo.html where Chris Boardman compares cycling in the UK and Holland.
Seems cycling here is more about going as fast as possible and setting good segment times while wearing sponsored clothing to prove you're part of a club or team, and less about just cruising along and enjoying the scenery.
Will Davis Each to their own. I think we all want a much better cycling experience in the uk. I half agree with you. They type of cycling I do isn’t for everyone and I can’t imagine many people wanting to get sweaty blasting to work. But then, when I see people commuting, most of them are in regular clothing. I fully disagree with the helmet statement, however. Helmets make your journey safer. Encouraging helmet-less cycling is something I would never get on board with. On that point I think Boardman couldn’t be more wrong. I also do not think Dutch style cycling will ever become a thing in the uk, sadly.
Also, my club has a range of active cycling styles. Yes there are racers with specialised equipment and light bikes. Yes there are those who push for speed but there are also other groups. Sunday’s, for example, are specifically for social rides. These rides head out into the country at an easy pace to explore nature and stop for coffee and cake. No racing there, just a bunch of social riders doing enjoying the scenery.
00:41 Maybe it needs a check for a newer version up-date? Or whatever it is called.
I will check again :-)
Great.
Everyone goes through hell at least once and helps our another rider some day. Club or not :)
Dennis too true man :)
No one left behind.
If only my dad let's me get a road bike
Nice bike of your mate tattooed!! This model garnet its sooo beautiful. Where buy it¡??
I don't get what this video is about, nothing seems to happen. the people you were out riding with waited for you to catch up? is that it?
y2keable yes and no. They stoped their ride to help an injured guy. A lot of cycling videos on UA-cam are pretty negative. Thought I would share a by of positivity.
whooooosh
Gone Cycling wankers
apologies!! I was feeling arrogant when I wrote that. Now I'm sheepish! Good effort
Great clubmates
Love to join this club i'm nee spring chicken but love to ride my bike
This is why I don't join a cycling club - I'm terribly out of shape and would slow everybody down.
The problem with your audio might be the speed of your SD Card. Perhaps try a different brand or try a different speed card.
Good stuff all around
Yep, genuinely appreciated the help :)
00:03 on your previous two or three videos you had mentioned that you got hit, I hadn't realised that it was a few weeks ago. I did not know that be cause up until this past Friday I have been away for a fortnight in the Philippines. I do hope that you recover soon.
Ah I bet the Philippines were spectacular. Would love to visit them. Hope you had a good time.
Yeah a few weeks ago, I didn't have my camera on me :-/ it was scary as hell and painful haha it made me angry for a while but yesterday I was feeling psychologically better
Gone Cycling Well, to be completely honest with you, of the six times I have been there, I have only enjoyed my self one or at the most two days per trip and only two of those trips, all of the rest of the time and trips it has only been to visit family that was near death... or just sitting around the house felling like a prisoner. But with that said, those very few days that there wasn't some thing major happening, the beaches were very nice.
Now that I have depressed you, I am glad that you are starting to feel better, if only psychologically.
Smash'n' lads & lasses
I want to join a club but im afraid of holding people behind
Daniel Moore Just do it, most clubs have different groups for all abilities. You'll be fine.
Daniel Moore just have to find the right club. In my club we have people who average at 10mph through to 24 mph plus. What we do is create specific rides for specific groups. Plus almost all of our rides are no drop. Combined the two principles mean that you are always pushing yourself to get better but are together with folk who similar in level so you don't have to worry about performance. Also, on no drop rides the back marker knows what to expect, you aren't slowing them as their job is to keep people accompanied :)
+Gone Cycling thanks alot :) I can pace 35 mile ride at 16.5 mph I'll join my local club and see what happens thanks again :)
What camera is this? great wide angle
Martin Zvarík the camera is a go pro hero 4 session on a k-edge mount that hangs below the bars. I highly recommend the camera and mount. They are really stable. I have the new go pro to and that one is great.
Thanks, I have an iBike Newton Combo holder, so my GoPro Hero 5 Session is at the bottom... Wide angle setting, but your camera seems to have also really good wide angle, but with no distortion..
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your lucky the groups I've gone out with are always shite, make you feel crap coz ya cant keep up, it's why i cycle on my an now
its the people that comprise the club, not the club itself. if i get dropped in my club, youre going home alone lol
When ya back out with the club
VERY AWSOME GUYS, LOVE IT !!!
how long a rides do you guys do
Hans 68 it varies. The "normal" ride is about 25 miles. At weekends we do rides between 40 and 100 miles. Then we have special events ranging up to 300 miles.
I'm filling uo here! 😭
i try cycling at mountain but that was exhausted
Mohd Amir Haziq haha I can barely manage a hill never mind a mountain 😂 thing with cycling is that the more you push the better you get :)
I wish i have this kind of group here. Everybody is just busy with chasing their average speed. Such a turn off for biking.
Waiting is part of cycling, shouldn't leave people behind tbh, it's seemingly creeping in with newbie clubs/riders (last 10 years or so) that seem to do this without thought so good on your club mates they didn't.
However and no disrespect meant but you all ride way too close to the kerb, that's gonna cost you some point down the line and on that type of road (long straight) two up would be far better/safer for all including motorists. it takes less time for motorists to overtake you, spending less time on the opposite side of the road. You shouldn't be singling out on narrow roads/bends either.
An interesting point. I actually agree with you to some extent (I do not think riding central reduces risk as both times I have been hit by a car I was central). I think our club position is to try in split into smaller groups to ease passing times and ride single file on smaller or busy roads and double file on quiet roads. The problem we have around here is a lot of drivers think riding double breast is illegal (it isn't) but that has the effect of increasing the confrontational attitudes of drivers. We are a pretty big club (300 plus members) so having this policy massively decreases the negative image of the club.
ynotnilknarf39 I was thinking the same thing. I'm no expert, and I don't mean to criticise - my observations....
when people ride single file close to the kerb, it makes them a lot less visible to other road users, especially those trying to emerge from a junction.
If you're riding single file, close to the kerb, to give other road users space to pass - you need to consider if it is safe for them pass and if you should be encouraging them. Typically, on our narrow roads, there is only enough room for a motorist to safely pass a cyclist if there is lane that is free of traffic - the position of the cyclist makes little difference to this.
All that said, I can't really tell easily what the roads are like, the wide angle lens on a GoPro is quite deceptive. Also, a few of the times I thought you were close to the kerb, watching the video again, I realize you are either riding two abreast, or being pushed :)
I've never known clubs to drop riders unless the specific ride has a rule because its a fast training ride. No-one gets dropped. No-one gets left behind.
You'll love a show on The Bke Channel called 'The Club': bikechannel.co.uk/the-club/
chriszanf my club officially also have "no one gets left behind. Ever" rule, but I get dropped most of the times, lol
chriszanf man I wish I had the bike channel, people keep recommending it. This looks like a good show! Thanks for sharing I will check it out.
You are right about no drop rides. I mainly shared this because it's nice to chuck in some positivity to cycling videos to break up the monotony of near misses ha!
tell me why i thought the title said cycling hubs?😂
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I would have let your tyres down haha. The juniors wouldn't have waited for you mind haha
Haha! Well then next time I'm out I may have to sabotage you bike before you get mine :-p
Mate, I couldn't have kept up with the juniors to have even been left behind. Yesterday they passed us at atleast 25 mph haha
Was ridiculous they didn't wait for me I averaged close to 19mph
Looks like a good bunch......which of course is how it should be, but seems like some people in clubs (from what I've read) can't help behaving like arseholes. As far as I'm concerned, if you want to ride faster than the group/club you're riding with then go and ride by yourself.
me too my friend waiting at me when im stock in uphill......so ride safe
I've raced against people with that kit