Ray West is killer with Spread Eagle. This was only his second time playing with the band. No rehearsals, fist time he played with them was the night before. Hard situation to succeed in.
yeah Michael.....he got fired after 2 shows....how the fuck is he supposed to know the words????...Lynch is such an asshole....didn't give the dude a chance
Lol, Jimmy D and his Boyle Heights T Shirt, thought I was the only one who has heard of that city in So.Cal,,, LOL, Great job once again Mr.Scary,,, Thanks for the Awesome Guitar sound, and Thanks for sharing your video, Great job.
He did a record with Dino Jelusic. Hands down the best young melodic metal singer today. On record AND live. George couldn't keep that going so...maybe its him thats the dickflap not the singers.
@@careful...Icarus He was good but I’m talking a virtuoso that can handle lots of style as well as Halford could in his prime. Sad wings of destiny. Era. The kind of singer that he would like to be teamed up with He was asked when George did his Sacred Groove but he was not available.
George used Charvel, Kramer (Mr Scary guitar was the skull Kramer) ESP made him a offer and signed with them. And yes, Kramer never "made" guitars, the sourced parts from builders, ESP being one of them for a long time, and Kramer put them together.
@@motorman512 Which tiger? His original yellow one, as you can see in Breaking the Chains video, was made by Grover Jackson, when it was still Charvel, I think in 82
Jacob Glanton from Dallas, TX was in a Dokken tribute band until recently called Without Warning and he has so much power, range and tone that I can honestly say he sounds better than Don Dokken in his prime. Young guy too. Looks pretty cool as well. Somebody ought to hit him up and introduce them for an audition. Not kidding. George would thank me.
I was at show #1 the night before.. I knew it was Rays first show & it was way better than this . Tooth & Nail was skipped both nights because Ray couldn’t read the lyrics off the monitor he keeps looking at , Hell who needs a monitor to know the Words to DOKKEN SONGS
Saw Ray West sing with Spread Eagle recently for a weekend of gigs in PA/NYC/NJ end of July. He can barely sing Switchblade Serenade. It's over when a singer let's the crowd sing for them. Was quite disappointing.
I think that whole system is stupid,paying people to rehearse your songs,what if they don't show up for the show,or worse freeze up before you hit the stage,I think that whole concept should change,I saw it happen in my bands,mann get the drugs quick,we got a show to do!!!😲 All that rehearsal and you dry up on show night...😬
In professional bands you get an annual salary for playing all shows and rehearsals. When it's a bar band you get paid at the occasional gig and paid for rehearsals.This is obviously the latter.
That singer 1) has/had major pitch issues the whole set 2) is not cool at all 3) the person doing monitors was not helping matters on the singer hearing himself and 4) the front of house sound tech was pretty much deaf. Not a good combo. Glad people showed up to support and it is still more fulfilling to be a has-been than a never-was so there is that. Glad George is out there doing it when not making guitars nowadays. The bass players tone was all wrong in the house and that drummer should have one of his feet nailed to the stage so he doesn't try that out-of-time double bass stuff.
George looks like he's always fighting the guitar, i dont see harmony between him and his instrument. EVH looked effortless, and so did his hands. George Looks like he's getting electrocuted
@@earld158 i set up,his gear at musicians institute, and all he did was play voodoo chile, and complain the amp didnt have enough effects.. I'll take jake, zack, and ritchie kotzen everyday of the week over poor george, he is still fighting the instrument and looks wanky. Yes i play
That’s George’s style when bending and changing left hand positions. It’s his own style of stage show while he’s playing his own style of guitar. He’s easily in the top 10 of 80s hard rock guitarists And still becomes a better player every day much like Jeff Beck does. He is in my top 5 guitarists of all time. A self-employed original musician for 40 years. Builds and sells original guitars also. He’s not sitting around typing stuff on your UA-cam video or my UA-cam video :)
don't really know what I'm watching....It's like George is caught in a nightmare with 3 loser wannabe's......Come on, George....you're much too good for this
WTF was the first song? Can't tell at all. Ray West in Spread Eagle is fantastic. Ray West in this cover/ bar band with the overhyped guitar player...not so fantastic.
Jesus i would have fired him at sound check if he couldn't even practice the songs to at least know them yikes hope he didn't get paid and it was a party jam sessions . no wonder George had his cap on and his head down or he would have shown his disappointment and embarrassment
I don’t see an issue with his performance, if this was only his second performance playing live, I’m sure he’s nervous and not confident with the material yet, it’s not easy to front a band, there are also ZERO WOMEN there in the front row. You’re performing in front of a bunch of old dudes who either play guitar or wish they played guitar. Kind of hard to get a vibe going, So there are a lot of layers to this. George wasn’t playing all that great either, tried to embarrass him as well with blaming him for knocking over one of the drum attachments. Unprofessional passive aggressive BS. It takes time to gel live without rehearsing. George should know this. As you’re gigs are your rehearsals.
LOVE this drummer, the dude is so ALIVE it's FUCKING phenomenal!!
yeah...Jimmy D'Anda.... Bullet Boys ex drummer
Ray West is killer with Spread Eagle. This was only his second time playing with the band. No rehearsals, fist time he played with them was the night before. Hard situation to succeed in.
Yeah, rock and roll isnt for everyone.
He fired him . Fact
@@Bloomcycle Ray himself says it. But I have seen Spread Eagle a bunch of times and Ray kicks ass. This just wasn’t his bag I guess.
Some actual rehearsal time would've made a difference. Maybe pay your back up band for some rehearsal time... just sayin'.
yeah Michael.....he got fired after 2 shows....how the fuck is he supposed to know the words????...Lynch is such an asshole....didn't give the dude a chance
Wow Flesh And Blood is such a great track. Ray Gillen lives on.
Look..Don isn't the greatest. But this guy makes me realize how good he actually is..
yeah this is tough.
Lol, Jimmy D and his Boyle Heights T Shirt, thought I was the only one who has heard of that city in So.Cal,,, LOL, Great job once again Mr.Scary,,, Thanks for the Awesome Guitar sound, and Thanks for sharing your video, Great job.
Perhaps George needs to contact Tim"RIPPER"Owens and see what kid of ENERGY he would bring to the set list.
Thanks for sharing 🤘
You are welcome, thanks for watching!
George is the last of the 3 Eddie/Randy rhoads
Agree, I also add Jake E. Lee to that team
@@MayweatherjrWONandsoTrump Warren DeMartini as well
Vai is with us.
Ray got stage presence and his first night was damn good IMO.
George deserves a Halford type of talent He waited long enough. Or a young new talent Undiscovered gold throat. Tough to listen even after Don
He did a record with Dino Jelusic. Hands down the best young melodic metal singer today. On record AND live. George couldn't keep that going so...maybe its him thats the dickflap not the singers.
@@careful...Icarus He was good but I’m talking a virtuoso that can handle lots of style as well as Halford could in his prime. Sad wings of destiny. Era. The kind of singer that he would like to be teamed up with He was asked when George did his Sacred Groove but he was not available.
Did he ever play love power from the mama head live? Biggest hits from his solo album and can’t find it live anywhere.
WOW.....Flesh and Blood as the opening song....too cool
Yeah. I haven't heard that in a good long while
I was there front row and couldn't even here him the whole set.
sound man probably high
George still amazing, good to see. Why the Bono shades.. so 1999
George use to use Kramer, that guitar is essentially a Kramer guitar. In ESP defense, many Kramer parts were sourced from ESP.
That's a esp with a Kramer style headstock
George used Charvel, Kramer (Mr Scary guitar was the skull Kramer) ESP made him a offer and signed with them. And yes, Kramer never "made" guitars, the sourced parts from builders, ESP being one of them for a long time, and Kramer put them together.
@@rustynales6610 my point was the guitar is a copy of Kramer but ironically ESP made the bodies and necks for Kramer.
@@motorman512 Which tiger? His original yellow one, as you can see in Breaking the Chains video, was made by Grover Jackson, when it was still Charvel, I think in 82
@@JR-to8snnope. George made his original yellow tiger. Body and neck charvels in the leftover wood pile.
Brett Favre can REALLY nail those tapping moves. Hands?
Gillen was the right Ray for this song
Ray is missed for sure. Great observation!
How was the singer live? He sounds kinda weak here, but it's always hard to tell on video recordings
From what I've heard he fired the singer
He did fire the singer. Now I see why.
Ray looks like the guy who would sing at dorm parties. Lol.
Katt Mars is one of the top L.A. rock vocalist. Call Him.
wow
That sucks that lynch fired Ray West! Give ray a damn chance george!
Does anyone know which headstock tuner George uses?
Jacob Glanton from Dallas, TX was in a Dokken tribute band until recently called Without Warning and he has so much power, range and tone that I can honestly say he sounds better than Don Dokken in his prime. Young guy too. Looks pretty cool as well. Somebody ought to hit him up and introduce them for an audition. Not kidding. George would thank me.
George doesn't want Dokken 2.
Just get Oni back.
Better than Don Dokken
"Hi, Ray. Bye, Ray"----fired after this gig
Now I know why George canned the guy
My sentiments exactly.
Why ???? Tho
Who’s playing drums
@Dirk Digler dirk stick to porn. Lynch still rocks.
I agree he sounds like shit. And was spewing over George's guitar at the beginning.
Really a Billy bass cover?
Better than Eddie or Randy ever was. Oh yeah, still alive...
Very difficult to find a decent singer. That gig can’t pay well. Most of the crowds are 300 to 400 people.
Ray really didn’t sound that bad
it just lacked any energy, etc I thought. Just kind of meh. I think he has a good voice- he just didn't work for this
Yes energy and loudness was lacking. Too monotone through entire songs.
i was there
News update: Ray fired!
This guy killed Ray Gillen a second time
I was at show #1 the night before.. I knew it was Rays first show & it was way better than this . Tooth & Nail was skipped both nights because Ray couldn’t read the lyrics off the monitor he keeps looking at , Hell who needs a monitor to know the Words to DOKKEN SONGS
people who weren't huge Dokken fans. I grew up a total metalhead in the 80s and only know the word to a couple songs off my top of the head
Saw Ray West sing with Spread Eagle recently for a weekend of gigs in PA/NYC/NJ end of July. He can barely sing Switchblade Serenade. It's over when a singer let's the crowd sing for them. Was quite disappointing.
If you're a professional singer, GET prepared so you're in the same key!!! What a disaster!!!
The singer gets fired after this concert
Oh no.
Looks and sounds like a guy at open mic night.
I think that whole system is stupid,paying people to rehearse your songs,what if they don't show up for the show,or worse freeze up before you hit the stage,I think that whole concept should change,I saw it happen in my bands,mann get the drugs quick,we got a show to do!!!😲 All that rehearsal and you dry up on show night...😬
Great perspective, thanks for watching and sharing!
In professional bands you get an annual salary for playing all shows and rehearsals. When it's a bar band you get paid at the occasional gig and paid for rehearsals.This is obviously the latter.
That singer 1) has/had major pitch issues the whole set 2) is not cool at all 3) the person doing monitors was not helping matters on the singer hearing himself and 4) the front of house sound tech was pretty much deaf. Not a good combo. Glad people showed up to support and it is still more fulfilling to be a has-been than a never-was so there is that. Glad George is out there doing it when not making guitars nowadays. The bass players tone was all wrong in the house and that drummer should have one of his feet nailed to the stage so he doesn't try that out-of-time double bass stuff.
Money talks GEORGE as you should know? You get what you pay for. Hope you find the right fit.
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GEORGE IS ACTING LIKE A KARDASHIAN!!
Nope. The frontman can't sing.
Great post w George's awesome playing but man West was horrible singing
Cool post though to see Mr Scary kill it on guitar 🎸
George looks like he's always fighting the guitar, i dont see harmony between him and his instrument. EVH looked effortless, and so did his hands. George
Looks like he's getting electrocuted
don't let that fool you. I don't know if you play or not if so I am sure you know how crazy good he is
@@earld158 i set up,his gear at musicians institute, and all he did was play voodoo chile, and complain the amp didnt have enough effects..
I'll take jake, zack, and ritchie kotzen everyday of the week over poor george, he is still fighting the instrument and looks wanky.
Yes i play
@@deebop4904 I don't discredit the players you cited--he may be an ass but I give him credit with his ability- he can rip
That’s George’s style when bending and changing left hand positions. It’s his own style of stage show while he’s playing his own style of guitar. He’s easily in the top 10 of 80s hard rock guitarists And still becomes a better player every day much like Jeff Beck does. He is in my top 5 guitarists of all time. A self-employed original musician for 40 years. Builds and sells original guitars also. He’s not sitting around typing stuff on your UA-cam video or my UA-cam video :)
Not always. Check out the outtakes for wicked sensation.
So this the singer he fired... Don't blame him.
Ray ...ray. ray. Man Oni sings that much better and with raw emotion. River of love was not in his catalog at the time I guesd
don't really know what I'm watching....It's like George is caught in a nightmare with 3 loser wannabe's......Come on, George....you're much too good for this
The Drummer is from the Bullet Boyz I believe.
Honestly, George is nothing compared to what he was, he has a very distinct playing style that only certain (few) people would b a good fit with him.
@@johncapone7184 you mean the one butchering river of love?
WTF was the first song? Can't tell at all. Ray West in Spread Eagle is fantastic. Ray West in this cover/ bar band with the overhyped guitar player...not so fantastic.
Ya gotta practice. You expect better,...???
I think the whole thing sounds a mess.Singer not that great.I sure miss Dokken from the 80’s.Yea I’m an old guy missing the days of the past.
Me to i like george but this is a mess doken was mutch better !
Jesus i would have fired him at sound check if he couldn't even practice the songs to at least know them yikes hope he didn't get paid and it was a party jam sessions . no wonder George had his cap on and his head down or he would have shown his disappointment and embarrassment
I don’t see an issue with his performance, if this was only his second performance playing live, I’m sure he’s nervous and not confident with the material yet, it’s not easy to front a band, there are also ZERO WOMEN there in the front row.
You’re performing in front of a bunch of old dudes who either play guitar or wish they played guitar. Kind of hard to get a vibe going, So there are a lot of layers to this.
George wasn’t playing all that great either, tried to embarrass him as well with blaming him for knocking over one of the drum attachments. Unprofessional passive aggressive BS.
It takes time to gel live without rehearsing. George should know this. As you’re gigs are your rehearsals.
hi Bono! bye Bono!
That singer was weak and needs to go
Wtf are even these songs?
Second song is from Lynch Mob stuff. Get your shit together man
Flesh and Blood is from his solo effort Sacred Groove which is excellent.
probably a personality conflict. George looks like a guy like that would annoy him
not 2022 for Christs sake...use the attitude on Don Dokkens cheeks like you should have already....
.. George really needs to accept the fact that, even tho, the 80s we're his glory days...
Vocal sucks....Jesus!
😆🤣😂 That singer definitely needed to go.
Can't understand words come his mouth lol refunds I understand the crowds more than the singer I wonder why'd 😅
Who played after George that night?