Hysterocrates gigas "Cameroon Red Baboon" Rehousing and Husbandry
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- What better way to start my April break than by rehousing a potentially nasty Old Word tarantula? :) My young adult (hopefully female) H. gigas was in need of a rehousing after her enclosure became infested with yellow mold. It seems that a bag of top soil I used in a couple of enclosures was contaminated, leading to an outbreak in three enclosures. This transfer actually went very well, and my girl is no acclimating to her new home.
There are a number of impressive things about this species including their swimming but what never ceases to impress me is the perfection of their form. They seem to be almost perfectly symmetrical and are so elegant and perfect to look at.
They sure are pretty!
Just did mine today. She (hopefully) is about the same size as yours. Thanks for the starter burrow tip. When I first moved her into he new digs she sat in the same place for about 2 hours (while I watched UA-cam videos) so I did a starter burrow and covered it with a piece of cork bark and she went inside within about 10 minutes. In her old cage, which was too small I loved the way she burrowed around the edges so I could see her and the tunnel system she built so I am hoping to see the same thing in her new home. I started my burrow down the corner though hoping she stays near the edge. I really wanted to put her in a 20 gallon hex tank but I just don't have the space for it so I opted for a tub similar to yours. Oh, and I used a metal spoon as well. No danger if you go slow and know where they are before you start poking around.
Hello, Steve! I'd done the same thing with fossorial species many times before (not given them a starter burrow). Poor things would just sit there scared in a corner. I do it with all of mine now. No danger at all with the metal spoons if you're careful. I'm so glad to hear that it went well!
I’ve had mine for about 3 months now and started digging straight away. She’s got some sick tunnels now. She’s about 4” and very skittish. Hasn’t shown and defensive at all. Would much rather bolt into her burrow
LOVE this species. My big girls are just so gorgeous. I've received ZERO defensiveness from either of them. Like you said, they'll just go to their burrows if disturbed.
Hi Tom and mrs. Tom my name is Mary Jo and I am new to the drench alabi I don't have one yet but I am working up to it six months to a year ago I was terrified of them but now I really really respect them and love them I'm going to get a beginner species of course but I think what I might do is get a couple jumping spiders to begin with and then work my way up I want to tell you how much I appreciate your videos and I appreciate your humor and some of your videos just crack me up but they are very very informative thank you for always making things clear so we can understand you and I look forward to watching more of your videos in the future your friend always Mary Jo Johnson, Stevensville Montana USA
Hello, Mary Jo...so very nice to meet you! Jumping spiders would be a great way to start. They would get you used to a quick little spiders. I used to be terrified as well; I got my first in the mid 90s to help me get over that fear. It takes time, so just be patient. Thank you so much for the very kind words!
Hey tom, if your having a problem getting a molt or ventral...watch the back legs...females have the thick rear pair much like the Pelinobius Muticus
+Antony Pugliano I did not know that...thanks so much! At 9:33, you can really see those thick back legs. I was pretty sure with the ventral, but this cinches it. Also, this means that my other is likely a female as well. Thanks!
I just bought two 1.25" of these yesterday at the expo. I'm excited about this spicies.
Congrats! :)
that is not how you spell species doffie
It seems like you always have to slowly to about 90% of the dirt out to find the T right? Also, the garage is the perfect place to do that. Esp w an Old World sp.
That's totally the trick to it. Work slowly and carefully. The spiders have almost always cowered in the bottom of their dens trying to hide while you work.
@@TomsBigSpiders Yeah, I always did OW rehousings outside, until I sold them all and no longer had to worry about it.
How do I get the egg sac from one of these? She is enthusiastically guarding it.
Hi, Steve. I usually try to grab the sac with forceps while holding the female back with a large paint brush or piece of cardboard. Does she drop the sac to eat? That has worked for me before, too.
@@TomsBigSpiders I'll try the paintbrush and forceps. I'll have an experienced helper when I do it. She doesn't leave the sac for even a second. Thanks!
I have a sling around 1 inch that has covered its burrow entrances with webbing and substrate. I wasn’t concerned at first since that usually means premolt. Now, I think it’s been about three weeks since it did that so I’m a little worried about it. I know I shouldn’t dig it out just to check on it, but it has been in there for a while. If it molted, shouldn’t it have opened its burrow back up?
Hello! Three weeks isn't unreasonable for one that size, so I wouldn't worry yet? How deep is the substrate? The only issue I've had with some of the fossorial species is that if you give them too much substrate, they stay at the bottom and don't resurface to hunt. If it's in a dram vial or something offering only a couple inches of substrate, that shouldn't be an issue. If it's in a large deli cup with several inches of sub, just a thought. I would still give it another week or so before worrying.
@Tom Moran
Thanks for getting back to me so soon. It is in a large deli cup so that could be the issue. I’ll give it more time to do its thing anyway. Thanks 👍
Voice sounds like Vince Vaughn
I get that one a lot. haha
Great video like always Tom! Keep up the great work
Thanks so much! I was glad that I caught her out for this! :)
LOL I was scared to be honest though when I seen you where doing it outside :O I would be so scared they would run away. Do you have a King baboon?
We have a lot of space to work out there! I do!
Gorgeous T and a great vid! Yeah was thinking at the start why not water technique...so good tip there Tom. Would having the enclosure with some legs and over something that collects water and then having a few holes in the base of the enclosure a possible idea. (i.e could be very small holes but numerous..).
I.e would help ventilation and any water would pass through? Just an idea...could be a silly one...(in re avoiding mold as could be this be due to water collecting...I guess you get mold even if the substrate is moist).
+Moss I was thinking of doing something like the plant pots that have the water basins at the bottom, but I've usually had pretty good luck with my moist enclosures. For most of mine, I use a bit of extra vermiculite on the bottom layers. When I pour water in, it percolates down to the bottom, keeping this area moist and mold free. Unfortunately, I think I had a bad batch of soil that led to this yellow mold in a few enclosures. Hopefully the new substrate I mixed will fare better.
Fingers x! Interested to know how you get on. Ok saw my first worm/cricket take down. (he/she actually flipped over).Might do a vid on weds re feeding.
My slings seem to be ok but have been pretty worried about the whole thing. (think one is webbing).
p.s perhaps it's wishfull thinking but they look bigger (a few worms were lost in the substrate...I found two of the buggers). But boy oh boy I cant catch crickets...!
Hi Tom,
Is it true that these guys can be kept communal? There's a guy in Canada doing that's...
thanks,
Richie
Hi, Richie! They CAN be kept communally, but I've heard it only works with sac mates that are kept together from the beginning and that you have to limit how much space they have. It'll work under some conditions, but they aren't as truly communal as the balfouri.
Tom Moran Yeah, I know this guy selling some slings. I've asked him if they are together. He said no, he separated them. They are from the same sac but I'm afraid to put them together.
I think if you want to try it, the best bet is to start with small slings from the same sac. At had a buddy who put two together from the same sac that had previously been separated, and he ended up with one. It sounds like they CAN be communal, but under the right circumstances.
Thanks for sharing your expertise. I have a P. muticus that will need re-housing and was wondering the best way to dig him out. Great vid, Tom.
+Paul P You're most welcome! I've had to dig several out now, and I generally do it the same way each time. I try to give them a bit of space to bolt rather than stand and fight if they get spooked. I've found that if you take your time, most will try to hide in the bottom until the very end. Good luck!
I totally agree, that we are on the same page when handling "any" T or scorpion. People do things too quick, and the animal wants to bolt. I used to, and can still, catch live bees and wasps with my bare hands, by the wings, without them stinging me. I have also grabbed my "Deathstalker" scorpion(Leiurus Quinquestriatus) or L. Nasheri by the tail to move it to a different enclosure. I would not recommend this, as they have the deadliest venom in the world(in the scorpion world), so if you get stung, you have about 1 hour to get to the hospital, to get treated, before the neuro-toxins take serious effect. The toxins will take affect before that, mildly, but this is when you really have to get to a hospital to treat it before it gets to the "permanent damage point" -- when you are looking at major problems breathing, no control of your arms and legs, excessive sweating, shooting pain down your arms and legs, brain and nerve damage. Ever since I saw a teenager trying to pick up an Androctonus Australis( Yellow Fat Tailed Scorpion) with his bare hands, when it's stinger was towards him, he got stung -- what happened ? , I don't know, but I can guarantee that he won't be trying to pick up a deadly scorpion without tongs again lol. Hey Tom, I just want to educate people, especially the young, to understand what they are getting into.
Yup, I agree completely. The trick is not to spook them. Once they get jacked up, you're going to have a much more difficult time (and more likelihood of being bit). That is great information on the L. quinquestriatus and its sting. Here's a question; does the hospital always have this antivenin on hand? It seems to me that folks would run the risk of their local hospital not having a rare antivenin. And you're right in that the teenager definitely learned lesson that day! I teach high school, so I spend a LOT of time trying to get the young to understand what they are getting into with these exotics.
Tom Moran The answwer, no, not all medical facilities have the ati-venom on hand, but they do have other means of "trying' to neutralize the venom through other means -- but it takes much longer -- which means more pain and misery. But this is for people whom aren't allergic to the scorpion's venom -- if you are allergic, this could mean death. I agree, these kids, teenagers and adults have to realize, that what might work for some people, won't work for others. If you have asthma or an allergic reaction to pollen, getting stung by a scorpion or bitten by an OBT or old world spider, could be the ultimate sacrifice. I never try to handle my scorpions or T's, unless it is 100 percent needed -- other wise "never" !!! These animals live in the wild "by themselves", so they should be left "by themselves". I had some close calls too, and it scared me into re-thinking my strategies, and it payed-off. I hope kids and teens can read this and realize that "one" stupid decision with animals like this, "can" kill them -- and if you're not dead, you will wish you were. Cheers
is this spider still alive?
She sure is.
She's very beautiful tom! Another great video by the way !
+Sabrina's Tarantulas Thanks so much! I really love the sleek look of this species. :)
Great video! I actually lost a small gigas because of mold on an uneaten cricket. I have a five incher that is doing quite well.
+Robert Carr Oh, man...that's terrible! Now that she's been rehoused, she's doing great (and no more mold). Glad to hear yours is doing well. How long have you had he/she for?
+Tom Moran, about five months now. she has made several tunnels. so far so good!!!
Fantastic! I love the tunneling. :)
another great video bud! I'm planning to get one h.gigas and this video helps me a lot. Cheers!
Hey, Mac! Thanks so much. I love hearing that these videos are helpful! :)
love your channel Tom. do you use springtails and woodlice in your vivs to control mould?
+Pete D89 Thanks so much! I do have springtails in my adult T. strimi's enclosure, but I hadn't had an issue with mold until recently when I used that darn bag. I'm now planning to buy some more to add to my other moist enclosures.
very cool but i just cant get into fossorial species :c i like to look at my tarantulas often. i have grown very very fond of my giant whiteknee(terrestrial) and my newest, my beautiful pinktoe!(arboreal) im beginning to like arboreal T's more and i think if i get another it will be another arboreal species!
very good video might get one at some point.
Thanks so much! Here's a more video with the same species. ua-cam.com/video/nF_tKLnUDy4/v-deo.html
What did ypu use to put the holes in?
Hi, Renae! I use a soldering iron and burn them in. You just have to do it outside on a windy day.
@@TomsBigSpiders have you ever used drill bits? Im not crafty with soldering irons lol
What is the key? passion not rushen?
Hi, there! You mean to rehousing them? :)
Your words from the minute 6:06 I just did not understand what you said there.
OH! Haha. So sorry...I tend to talk too fast!
The key is to be patient and not rush it. If you stay calm and work slowly and carefully, they are much less likely to get scared and run.
Aha so everything clear :)
Na is not their problem my English is bad about it I do not understand everything so I asked again.
Ah! Okay! If you ever need me to clarify, just ask! Sorry about that!
They swim? So you can keep them in an aquarium ;) thx for sharing
+Jane Smith Yes! It's quite amazing. I'm thinking of doing a custom enclosure for one of mine that would provide a small pool in case the mood strikes. :)
+Tom Moran well at your suggestion,I checked for swim clips,and tarantulaguy has a clip from about 5 years ago,he had his in a turtle-like enclosure," land" on one side and a " pond" on the rest,with the typical aquarium pump, and his male was holding his breath,and holding on to a branch in the water. FASCINATING! If I find room for a aquarium,I will get a similar setup,and one of these water spiders. :) only have dry spiders atm
+Jane Smith I love that video! Yes, this behavior is what turned me on to the species. I believe that there is also a video out there of one fishing. So cool!
mine's about half an inch
They grow pretty fast, so it won't be that small for long!
Tom Moran ye
Tom Moran she/he also never rejects food, best eater in the collection so she should be growing steadily
i just bought one of these today a sling
Not great idea getting in there with sharp edge spoon. Could decapitate the T if someone else tries this bad idea.
I've used it dozens of times. If you know where the spider is and you are careful with it, there is no problem. And the spoon is not sharp. It's a spoon.
And I HAVE tried both plastic and wooden spoons, but you have to press down harder with them, especially in well-packed soil. That can be more of a danger if you don't know where the the tarantula. With a metal spoon, I can carefully and lightly scrape away the dirt without putting the spider at risk.
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