👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Excellent podcast! I learned so much! And I loved how, the entire time, you made it clear Abi was the one *being bullied,* not the other way around (that is especially true and needs to be highlighted)! 💯💯💯 And thank you so much for asking my questions! 🙂🙂🙂 PS: The Parvati question (which I had to limit in characters so some context was cut out, sorry 😅), I was moreso asking how Parvati (in her original season, Cook Islands) came off as a "hero" at that time for saying those things about Penner (which weren't in any way standing up to bullying and were bullying behavior themselves), and only got termed a "villain" after her second season (Micronesia) when - as you mentioned - she created an all-woman's alliance and voted out all the strong male players! To be clear, I don't think Parvati or her alliance members are "still bullies" - in that I *distinctly* remember Nate, Candice, Parvati, and Adam being *very* embarrassed and apologetic about how they treated Jonathan in their Survivor Live interviews back in 2006 (with Nate and Candice specifically emphasizing Jonathan was a "good friend"). Yes, in the end, I believe, like Abi, Parvati is a *hero* who was unfairly villainized for the *wrong* reasons. The goal here is call out *the perception* of certain actions by *audiences.* But yes, ironically, I believe Abi answered it in other parts of the podcast. Ultimately, in the name-calling example (where it wasn't just her - others also participated in the name-calling and bullying, including Adam and Nate, i.e., two men), it wasn't seen as "standing up to the patriarchy," or "Parvati is showing she's a strong woman." But when she created the all-woman's alliance, *that* is how it was seen and portrayed, similarly to when Abi stood up for herself against bullying! I do indeed believe that *that* is how one *actual* example of bullying was deemed "heroic," while examples of women showing how strong they are (by creating an all-woman's alliance, or standing up to gaslighting, or both)! But I say that as a guy, I've never experienced it as a woman like you, Parvati, and Abi, so if any of you disagree, I defer to your opinion on that matter. 🙂 But yes, fantastic podcast! Thank you!
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Excellent podcast! I learned so much! And I loved how, the entire time, you made it clear Abi was the one *being bullied,* not the other way around (that is especially true and needs to be highlighted)! 💯💯💯
And thank you so much for asking my questions! 🙂🙂🙂
PS: The Parvati question (which I had to limit in characters so some context was cut out, sorry 😅), I was moreso asking how Parvati (in her original season, Cook Islands) came off as a "hero" at that time for saying those things about Penner (which weren't in any way standing up to bullying and were bullying behavior themselves), and only got termed a "villain" after her second season (Micronesia) when - as you mentioned - she created an all-woman's alliance and voted out all the strong male players!
To be clear, I don't think Parvati or her alliance members are "still bullies" - in that I *distinctly* remember Nate, Candice, Parvati, and Adam being *very* embarrassed and apologetic about how they treated Jonathan in their Survivor Live interviews back in 2006 (with Nate and Candice specifically emphasizing Jonathan was a "good friend"). Yes, in the end, I believe, like Abi, Parvati is a *hero* who was unfairly villainized for the *wrong* reasons. The goal here is call out *the perception* of certain actions by *audiences.*
But yes, ironically, I believe Abi answered it in other parts of the podcast. Ultimately, in the name-calling example (where it wasn't just her - others also participated in the name-calling and bullying, including Adam and Nate, i.e., two men), it wasn't seen as "standing up to the patriarchy," or "Parvati is showing she's a strong woman." But when she created the all-woman's alliance, *that* is how it was seen and portrayed, similarly to when Abi stood up for herself against bullying!
I do indeed believe that *that* is how one *actual* example of bullying was deemed "heroic," while examples of women showing how strong they are (by creating an all-woman's alliance, or standing up to gaslighting, or both)! But I say that as a guy, I've never experienced it as a woman like you, Parvati, and Abi, so if any of you disagree, I defer to your opinion on that matter. 🙂
But yes, fantastic podcast! Thank you!
Thank you for your thoughts! I really enjoyed reading this