Jarvis is so laid back, it somehow gives weight to what he's saying - him just suggesting that michael jackson should get a bit of reality in his life makes the whole affair seem ridiculous.
совушка сова i am also from Asia. Pulp is big. Jarvis is a star. Just as popular as blur and oasis in asian countries, for anyone who actually listens to music. Like real music i mean.
@@user-kj1pq6zh3x pulp is great band, jarvis is great musician, and im from asia i know who pulp was, i know who jarvis is. And great music isn't for everyone so thats why you didn't know it.
I know I'm so late to your comment, but I have to agree. After watching him do it I kind of felt bad for Michael, he was just doing what he loved, but I hear what Jarvis is saying. As a Michael fan I gotta say, it was annoying to see Michael portraying himself as a messiah type figure
you can read alot into why Jackson was surrounding by kids and making himself a god like figure. Javis smelled something was very wrong with Jackson and it turned out he was right!
@strangefurt64 yeah ok all right, I think when a person don't wanna admit something is better to live him in peace, cause you're not going to change opinion so nice to met you and take care! :D
@mcdinkity No man, he wasn't just having fun, he was accusing Jackson for his "christ-behavior" and that's all. He was not trying to imitate christ, he was just singnin "Earth Song".
@nuitetjuors1 You've been saying what he did, not what you think he did, and there's a big difference. I'm tired of responding to you and won't be doing so in future, but just want to make clear that it's important you make clear what your opinion is, rather than false statements. Also, I beleive in innocent until proven guilty. Thank you
@nuitetjuors1 Think about this; it wasn't him who paid them off. That happened once, and was the decision of Sony who didn't want the bad image to effect his upcoming album release.
@lilyphilia84 No I don't think it is over pretentious. He was trying to convey a message that was on his heart. In the same fashion, someone may think that something you are passionate about is over pretentious. You would have to understand why he wrote it. Read Earth Song by Joel Vogel. It took him several years. It's ok if you think that is over pretentious and it ok if I think it isn't. Everyone will not like everything that an artist does. That's what makes us different.
@@michaeljacksonsaguiltypref3600 No, but he did knock up and impregnate a twelve year old girl. You left that part out. Is that the answer you were looking for?
+TheDoughboy1996 Michael Jackson is the KING PIN of the music industry, and that is why jarvis couldn't release FUCK ALL after that incident. FUCK jarvis cokcer.... he is now a nobody!
jahnkonoo egugu ah the king of pin I see, yea no, Jarvis is still a hero in most people’s eyes, mj was so retarded to act like Jesus’s with poor people, and you’re even stupid to take on mjs side
You do know that Michael gave over 300 million dollars to over 40 different charities, plus on several occasions donated money from his concerts to help kids and hospitals in the different cities he toured.
@nuitetjuors1 Did he? Wow.. how do you know that? Please send me the evidence, and whilst your at it send it to the US legal system, they investigated that for 17 years!
6 - in that courtroom back in 05. Why do you think jurors are told NOT to read or listen to anything outside during a trial? This is where I introduce Aphrodite Jones, (A True Crime writer, who was with other reporters covering the 05 trial) who originally thought MJ was guilty, until she was given access to the actual court transcripts, which she needed for a project. She was shocked - Hence, her eventual book,’ Michael Jackson Conspiracy’ - which is a chunk of the court transcripts.
7 - been given for very painful scalp reconstruction surgery - (where a balloon is inserted into the scalp to expand it) - due to Pepsi ad burn. That was carried out just before his Dangerous tour. When the allegations broke during his tour, he began to over-consume them in order to block out what was happening. He went to rehab for that. Get over it. Like millions the world over, he had an on/off dependency on prescription medicines described for genuine ailments which - Contd -
In all seriousness...and I'm a fan of MJs and NOT Jarvis Cockers...but Michael Jackson clearly had a bizarre grasp on "reality" himself. The man needed help, and the kind of fan who held him up as what appears to be the zenith of mankind probably did him more damage than the negative media. Because they indulged and made excuses for some of his more dubious actions...thereby giving him license to carry on down the same road.
@wattdabny No, I don't think you get the point. Earth Song wasn't supposed to be what others wanted to hear. It's about getting a point across that there is just too much destruction and devastation. Okay, you may think that Jarvis was right, but just think about how YOU would feel... It's not fair -.-"
HIs face is what's so wrong! He and many here missed the whole point of what Michael was trying to do. He never claimed to be Jesus. He said he wanted to be like him. Jesus came to save the world. Michael was trying to save our planet through song. He was always using metaphors to get his point across. Lighten up people!
@@annesophiejp haha they have done nothing but defend him for years now. See if u wernt filled in with the facts, Michael was found completly innocent with the 2 kids admitting that it was their parents looking money. So how dare u make such remarks. Move along and do some educating before commenting on such matters.
@@annesophiejp hahaha yea no problem. U ever thought that because there was this whole movement in hollywood with children coming forward with stories about being abused... hmm i think that would be the time.m where hundreds of children turned against michael. Oh but no, why u ask? Because theres nothing to be said apart from defenfing him and his innocence. When u actually gonna sit down at look at this whole thing logically and with the evidence as well as looking at Michael, the human being... instead of yapping on about the man the media "attempted" to create, this weirdo who molests kids, yea we all know that was just to drag his name down.. now go do some research, seriously
@amaya0625 Are you accusing Jarvis Cocker for wanting the limelight, when what he did was protest against Michael Jackson's "Jesus" performance. Are you serious?!
This time, read ALL my comments (Below) properly - You are either scanning over one or two or deliberatley ignoring them - No wonder you are missing big chunks of what is being said to you when you attempt a reply.
1. Learn what? Not to trust or help people/ children anymore, just b/s of Daddy Chandler? He didn’t “persistently” hang around children, either. He continued to invite bus loads poor / underprivileged parents and their kids to his ranch because he genuinely wanted to help those less fortunate than him. The only families that had stayed were those he had become particularly close to. If a family stayed, the kids followed him everywhere, short of following him to the loo.
3. We know & understand the ones who often comment that they feel he may be guilty / are not sure / are confused - whatever, and suggest to them to just research more deeply. What we are pissed with, is the laud mouths like you, who just burst in with smart-arsed, self-righteous comments, while calling him the usual, robotic nick-names. The kind who listen to and read ALL the sensationalistic BS and take it as gospel - Yet, at the same time, IGNORE a NOT guilty verdict that -
1. The “Red flags” are plentiful regarding those who made allegations against him. But you wouldn’t know that, because something compels you to remain clueless - Which appears to stem from your personal, underlying bias toward MJ. Everyone / and families have issues of some sort! Especially the ones who suffer from MJ-bias syndrome! And, as for stories being true - it depends on* what * story you’d be referring to. And, Hush with your childish, “world against MJ”. Your OWN words…As usual.
He's right. That performance Michael was really up his own arse. He needed a reality check and Jarvis gave him one... I just wish I was there to see it. You can't expect to not get any hate when you're on stage acting like you're Jesus.
BLTKellys Exactly. Michael would be the first to say he never ever thought of himself as Christ but that he did try to live a Christ-like life which by the way he did.
Its not even just the performance. Putting it in the context of time, the allegations that he had just been facing, it was in very bad taste. And to all the people saying "Oh, he was just playing a Messianic role" - irrelevant. He was playing Messianic role at a time when he should have been playing a fucking humbled role.
Typical fucking MJ fans. Seriously - wtf is up with you lot? Why are you so insecure that you can't handle the fact that some people don't think every single thing MJ did was brilliant? Why can't you handle the fact that some people don't like MJ? Why do you care? You just reinforce all the negative things people said about him by acting out the way that you do. Grow the fuck up.
earinsound People like you wanted him to be a child molester so badly. It hurts you that he was found NOT guilty when he took it to trial the 2nd time and when Chandler released the audio recording of his wicked father coercing him into LYING on the King of Pop during the 90s with the first false allegation. He admitted there was nothing inappropriate and that his father made him do it. Michael Jackson was not a child molester. It was all fun and games to make fun of him when we were kids. But we are all grown and the truth has already been revealed. Quit being willfully ignorant and grow up already.
SwingRiots why be forced into extreme humility (which he was already very humble) if you know you are innocent. Only weak minded people let others mold them and let the opinions of others bend their will.
@ThisLazyMan Michael did use his money, buy you don't have to believe me, look up for yourself. He gave away over $300 million dollars to different charities, not to mention his time and love. What more can one person do? If he didn't get his message out on an award show, where was he supposed to do it? On the street corner and get mobbed? A commerical? No matter what Michael Jackson did or did not do, he still would have been criticized by people who have done far less or nothing at all..
Well, I respect that, but I am with Jarvis on this one, Michael would have needed some reality in his life, I'm not saying he wasn't a great human being and a great entertainer, it was just sad to me the way he ended. I mean his music was never the issue it was always him, the way he presented himself, it was like a two sided coin, on the one side it was all really playful and peaceful, but on the other it was all weird and strange and just unnatural in a way.
@Viczey nice to meet you too. and you're not going to change anyone's opinion either, especially by saying someone can't possibly be a paedophile on the grounds of "not having had a childhood".
Below are my last posts to you, (depending on whether you can answer the questions that have been long asked of you - or forget replying and remain ignorant) We shall see. I was replying to the last post you left, but it seems it has been removed while replying to it?? Hmm! Anyway, posts below!
jarvs when was on stage with pulp he was flying on stage and to say he did not like mj over mj doing earth song but was ok for jarvis to fly i just wish the knob and fell on stage
5 - wanted to know MORE than what was being said and printed out in the public domain. You would have wanted BOTH sides of this, because the accusations are now directed toward one of your OWN, or someone who you’ve admired & have a gut feeling all does not seem as is being presented on the surface. More so, you’d have sat in the courtroom hearing and watching things unfold in a COMPLETELY opposite manner to what you were being fed in the outside world. That is EXACTLY what happened -
2014 "Earth Song" voted best performance of the Brits The performance of Michael Jackson Earth Song 1996 singing has been voted the best performance in the history of the BRIT Awards in a new survey. "Someone Like You" by Adele second in 2011 and the Spice Girls with "Who Do You Think You Are" 1997 in third place. No prizes for your ass, Jarvis
+Holly Butler "He thought he was the messiah. He wasn't. Just another person." What does that even mean ? Makes no sense. Reality check ? Did Michael thought that he could fly and heal a cancer patient by sliding his hand down the patient's face. :-D
Holly Butler How did MJ think he was some sort of god? The Bible actually says to be "Christ-like" and that's all the King of Pop was trying to do. Now following the Bible is wrong? The King of Pop is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't with you people. That's probably why this song and video went on to win so many accolades and to be critically acclaimed. It was a great song with a much needed message. Just look at the problems we still face today....
4 - more like being *Simple-minded*. When someone, (No matter WHO they are) is accused of such a horrible crime, you don’t just look at it “simply” - in your case, cruising along the *Surface* of what you’ve read & heard reported? You can bet if that was a family member, or a good friend of yours, though you may have chastised them about how stupid they were to allow a situation/s that could be used against them at some stage, one thing is for sure, you would most DEFINITELY have -
And, one could also say - If you were GENUINELY concernd for your child, then WHY walk straight to a CIVIL LAWYER instead of contacting police / child services? Different scenario - Same principle! So you're admitting you haven't a clue / done NO relevant research! (Rolls eyes)! Anyway...Test time: 1. Why did daddy Chandler DEMAND to meet MJ BEFORE the story went public? 2. What did he demand from MJ during that meeting & how did MJ react to demand? 3. Who reported the story to the police?
There are 8 comments for you, (below) - Then, considering you seem to like coming back here...Perhaps we can then get back to the questions you keep avoiding.
4. You could start by answering the Daddy Chandler question… (Though he is no longer alive, because he committed suicide a few months after MJ died) Actually, he shot himself in the head a within days after This Is It was released. So, which is it? You can remain ignorant, clueless, or learn a few facts that the majority of the public still don’t know about, until an honest film is made. Facts are Facts …whether one is a fan of anyone or not. Fact!
Jarvis cocker, artist and realist commenting on MJ , performer and wierdo. It's all about keeping in touch with REALITY, and of corse The Common People.
Exactly! Cocker cocked-up! What some don't get is - what MJ sang about *IS* REALITY. He wrote this song back in the mid-90's, BEFORE so-called global-warming experts etc, arrived on the scene. MJ was well clued-in to the REALITIES going on. A performer who expressed this song with extra visual messages that night; His video version ends differenty. Also, MJ has often worn white shirts on stage for other songs which don't have any profound message. Some people should research before commenting.
My first reaction was to bitch about Mr Cocker, despite thinking MJ had gone too far with his Jesus act. Blessing all the people of the world... give me a damn break. And I love MJ. But Jarvis did what he had to do I guess.
I just...noone comes out of this whole saga very well do they. It is essentially one self indulgent man criticising another self indulgent man for being self indulgent....by being self indulgent
Jarvis came out of it great. I remember watching that performance on TV and thinking that it was a bit much to present himself as Messiah/ healer and the different faiths 'kissing the ring'.
Ohhh, so just because some people in Britain has heard of him - can he be called a legend? Sorry dude, but it takes more than that to get the title "Legend".
Jarvis Cocker is the one who needs reality. I don't see him helping children or donating money to dying children or spending time with children at orphanages and hospitals.
100% Agreed. People are just so ignorant. Till this day, they still believe that Michael was guilty for those allegations. It annoys me how people seems to be seeking drama instead of the truth. For that reason, I will always come to MJ's defense no matter what. Here's a tip for all those haters:Don't ask us to prove MJ's innocence because the trial has already done that for us. Ask yourself HOW he's guilty for all those charges and be prepared to have concrete evidence to back up your claims.
Why doesn't he just admit he was drunk and wanted to be silly? I'd respect him more if he'd just admit it. Sure, Michael could have used 'a reality check', but religion has been a source for inspiration for music practically since the first lyrics were set to notes.
Does he ever wash his hair? Oh I love how he says he thought Michael's performance was in "bad taste" so that's why he did what he did? Oh but what he did was in GOOD TASTE????? What an asshole. Jealous of Michael's talent and popularity.
+Holly Butler Michael Jackson is the KING PIN of the music industry, and that is why jarvis couldn't release FUCK ALL after that incident. FUCK jarvis cokcer.... he is now a nobody!
Listen ***** it is very obvious you are very MISINFORMED, MISGUIDED, COLOUR-PEJUDICE,STUPID and have been HOODWINKED by the MEDIA...... One the four 'M's" you people use the POLUTE the entire planet with. When you attack BLACK/AFRICA people or even your own people who doesn't agree with your FILFTH, the MEDIA(paparazzi,propaganda), MONITORY(money which is fake), MEDICINE(aids,ebola,the flues,germ warfare) and FUCKING HELL ON EARTH...... THE MILITARY.... WAR WAR WAR waged upon the people of this planet....... Go and research and stop spreading propaganda... talking out your BLOOD-CLAAT RECTUM. jarvis cocker is SHIT.....!
"Funny how some people speak in defence of MJ like they personally knew him" Then you may as well say - Funny how some people speak about and accuse MJ of being guilty "like they personally knew him", There are plenty of people who have defended MJ who DID know him more on a personal level and they have said and still say nothing but good about him. Funny how many choose to IGNORE what these people have to say too.
Jarvis is so laid back, it somehow gives weight to what he's saying - him just suggesting that michael jackson should get a bit of reality in his life makes the whole affair seem ridiculous.
Exactly.
Jarvis should have received an MBE for his stance that night.
Melody Maker wanted to give him a knighthood. At least that's what their cover from March 1996 said
When you set yourself up as the Messiah then you deserve every kind of ridicule that comes your way. Jarvis played a blinder.
The irony about this is that Jarvis became something a Jesus figure in the British music press himself after this incident.
Jarvis song went out of the charts soon after but mj earth song went back in top 20 after the brits ah ha
@@jazmorrison9030 Truth!!
Seriously?..
A Jesus?
As for MJ, he never said he WAS Jesus but he would act LIKE Jesus. Being good to people.
If Jarvis is Jesus, what does that make Bob Mortimer, John the Baptist?
I'm laughing way too hard at Jarvis' reaction when he walks in.
I love how people think Jarvis Cocker was only famous for this stunt. It's actually painful hahaha
It's really most Americans who think that. They have no idea about Pulp and how much of a talented songwriter and performer he was.
@@LegoDonut18 I'm from Asia, that cock is nobody and no one outside England knows him, i know him only because of MJs performance
совушка сова i am also from Asia. Pulp is big. Jarvis is a star. Just as popular as blur and oasis in asian countries, for anyone who actually listens to music. Like real music i mean.
@@archangel9235 nobody in my country ever heard of pulp, but everybody knows MJ even if they don't listen him
@@user-kj1pq6zh3x pulp is great band, jarvis is great musician, and im from asia i know who pulp was, i know who jarvis is. And great music isn't for everyone so thats why you didn't know it.
the difference is that we know the truth about mj, just because some things are written in the tabloids doesnt mean they're true
The comments section to this vid is a real shitshow.
He looks like Tobey Maguire at the beggining
lol
Bully Maguire
Wow, some serious vitriol for Jarvis here. Guys, it was 22 years ago and it was funny.
I know I'm so late to your comment, but I have to agree. After watching him do it I kind of felt bad for Michael, he was just doing what he loved, but I hear what Jarvis is saying. As a Michael fan I gotta say, it was annoying to see Michael portraying himself as a messiah type figure
@Mike182Jones He was not trying to be Jesus! He was just singing with some people around!
i love his quip when asked about jackson fans thrwoing eggs
Could made a fine yorkshire pudding with them
you can read alot into why Jackson was surrounding by kids and making himself a god like figure. Javis smelled something was very wrong with Jackson and it turned out he was right!
You’re projecting.
The performance was obnoxious, and ego drivel drivel.
So he went to mock it.
Someone who hits someone and hospitalizes someone gets zero outrage, someone who enters the stage for a moment gets a huge outrage....
@strangefurt64 yeah ok all right, I think when a person don't wanna admit something is better to live him in peace, cause you're not going to change opinion so nice to met you and take care! :D
@nuitetjuors1 This makes him guilty? I do hope you never work in a court of law.
Nobody asked his opinion about Michael’s performance.
considering there was a press conference, I'd reckon a few people had
@mcdinkity No man, he wasn't just having fun, he was accusing Jackson for his "christ-behavior" and that's all. He was not trying to imitate christ, he was just singnin "Earth Song".
Watch the performance. He starts thinking he's the messiah. Especially when Jarvis left the stage.
@@hvern0n I didn't know you could read thoughts 🙄
@@nunyabiznes6243 dressed in white, the bloke acts like a nob
@nuitetjuors1 You've been saying what he did, not what you think he did, and there's a big difference. I'm tired of responding to you and won't be doing so in future, but just want to make clear that it's important you make clear what your opinion is, rather than false statements. Also, I beleive in innocent until proven guilty. Thank you
still a legend.
So much respect for Jarvis.
no. and to you no also.
What a legend
You have to be dead to be a legend
Totally
@nuitetjuors1 Think about this; it wasn't him who paid them off. That happened once, and was the decision of Sony who didn't want the bad image to effect his upcoming album release.
He knew it lol
Fucking hero.
@lilyphilia84 No I don't think it is over pretentious. He was trying to convey a message that was on his heart. In the same fashion, someone may think that something you are passionate about is over pretentious. You would have to understand why he wrote it. Read Earth Song by Joel Vogel. It took him several years. It's ok if you think that is over pretentious and it ok if I think it isn't. Everyone will not like everything that an artist does. That's what makes us different.
"In no way do I think I am God, but I do try to be God-like." -MJ
Did god entice other people's kids into his room?
@@michaeljacksonsaguiltypref3600 LOL here you are again. What the f
@@michaeljacksonsaguiltypref3600 No, but he did knock up and impregnate a twelve year old girl. You left that part out. Is that the answer you were looking for?
EXACTLY!!!!
@MJJFanVideos
how do you know he didn't? because he got away with it, or because you like the way he dances?
Jarvis = legend
There are no legends in this time of age.
Singers and performers are just overrated shitty people, like everyone else for that matter.
TheDoughboy1996 Legend of bullshit? I agree.
Could be a legend of kiddy fiddling instead like...
+TheDoughboy1996 Michael Jackson is the KING PIN of the music industry, and that is why jarvis couldn't release FUCK ALL after that incident.
FUCK jarvis cokcer.... he is now a nobody!
jahnkonoo egugu ah the king of pin I see, yea no, Jarvis is still a hero in most people’s eyes, mj was so retarded to act like Jesus’s with poor people, and you’re even stupid to take on mjs side
You do know that Michael gave over 300 million dollars to over 40 different charities, plus on several occasions donated money from his concerts to help kids and hospitals in the different cities he toured.
sure but as jarvis said he didnt have a personal vendetta against him he just didnt like that performance
this guy was trying to get 5 seconds of fame outside of the shire.
The first 3 questions are only the beginning of your test!
@nuitetjuors1 Did he? Wow.. how do you know that? Please send me the evidence, and whilst your at it send it to the US legal system, they investigated that for 17 years!
my hero
6 - in that courtroom back in 05. Why do you think jurors are told NOT to read or listen to anything outside during a trial? This is where I introduce Aphrodite Jones, (A True Crime writer, who was with other reporters covering the 05 trial) who originally thought MJ was guilty, until she was given access to the actual court transcripts, which she needed for a project. She was shocked -
Hence, her eventual book,’ Michael Jackson Conspiracy’ - which is a chunk of the court transcripts.
7 - been given for very painful scalp reconstruction surgery - (where a balloon is inserted into the scalp to expand it) - due to Pepsi ad burn. That was carried out just before his Dangerous tour. When the allegations broke during his tour, he began to over-consume them in order to block out what was happening. He went to rehab for that. Get over it.
Like millions the world over, he had an on/off dependency on prescription medicines described for genuine ailments which - Contd -
UA-cam Charles Thomson, Aphrodite Jones, William Wagner and Mary Fisher about Michael Jackson. Get the facts !!!!!!!!!!!
Good on him
who is Jarvis Cocker though?
Singer for Pulp. Didn't you know?
alcadelin5 Who gives a shit?
I'm sorry for the people who don't know him.
@nuitetjuors1 why who did that? I hope you didn't
In all seriousness...and I'm a fan of MJs and NOT Jarvis Cockers...but Michael Jackson clearly had a bizarre grasp on "reality" himself. The man needed help, and the kind of fan who held him up as what appears to be the zenith of mankind probably did him more damage than the negative media. Because they indulged and made excuses for some of his more dubious actions...thereby giving him license to carry on down the same road.
i was rudely hassled and ranted at by MJ fan "tonm08" But I do agree completely with Jarvis on this one, well done to him!!
@wattdabny No, I don't think you get the point. Earth Song wasn't supposed to be what others wanted to hear. It's about getting a point across that there is just too much destruction and devastation. Okay, you may think that Jarvis was right, but just think about how YOU would feel... It's not fair -.-"
A fair statement lol
@majorager he was not a pedo. And he wasn't bleatching his skin. Stop sayin stupid things and get informed.
good old jarv!
@WidnesWonderwall Yep. They aint got anything else to look forward to have they?
HIs face is what's so wrong! He and many here missed the whole point of what Michael was trying to do. He never claimed to be Jesus. He said he wanted to be like him. Jesus came to save the world. Michael was trying to save our planet through song. He was always using metaphors to get his point across. Lighten up people!
Jarvis Cocker deserves a knighthood.
@jd8571 He was quite famous when it happened... And what he did was so right.
jarvis is so much better
Who that~
Perhaps Michael invited those kids that performed with him that night back to his Neverland Ranch for some cookies and milk.
Thomas turner I knew I wouldn't get through these comments before some asshole would make a bullshit comment about children.
I hope one day those children speak out and all those defending this abuser feel ashamed.
@@annesophiejp haha they have done nothing but defend him for years now. See if u wernt filled in with the facts, Michael was found completly innocent with the 2 kids admitting that it was their parents looking money. So how dare u make such remarks. Move along and do some educating before commenting on such matters.
@@rhys992 just wait, truth will come out one day 😊
@@annesophiejp hahaha yea no problem. U ever thought that because there was this whole movement in hollywood with children coming forward with stories about being abused... hmm i think that would be the time.m where hundreds of children turned against michael. Oh but no, why u ask? Because theres nothing to be said apart from defenfing him and his innocence. When u actually gonna sit down at look at this whole thing logically and with the evidence as well as looking at Michael, the human being... instead of yapping on about the man the media "attempted" to create, this weirdo who molests kids, yea we all know that was just to drag his name down.. now go do some research, seriously
@amaya0625 Are you accusing Jarvis Cocker for wanting the limelight, when what he did was protest against Michael Jackson's "Jesus" performance. Are you serious?!
This time, read ALL my comments (Below) properly - You are either scanning over one or two or deliberatley ignoring them - No wonder you are missing big chunks of what is being said to you when you attempt a reply.
ROY ORBISON!
1. Learn what? Not to trust or help people/ children anymore, just b/s of Daddy Chandler? He didn’t “persistently” hang around children, either.
He continued to invite bus loads poor / underprivileged parents and their kids to his ranch because he genuinely wanted to help those less fortunate than him. The only families that had stayed were those he had become particularly close to. If a family stayed, the kids followed him everywhere, short of following him to the loo.
3. We know & understand the ones who often comment that they feel he may be guilty / are not sure / are confused - whatever, and suggest to them to just research more deeply.
What we are pissed with, is the laud mouths like you, who just burst in with smart-arsed, self-righteous comments, while calling him the usual, robotic nick-names. The kind who listen to and read ALL the sensationalistic BS and take it as gospel - Yet, at the same time, IGNORE a NOT guilty verdict that -
1. The “Red flags” are plentiful regarding those who made allegations against him. But you wouldn’t know that, because something compels you to remain clueless - Which appears to stem from your personal, underlying bias toward MJ. Everyone / and families have issues of some sort! Especially the ones who suffer from MJ-bias syndrome! And, as for stories being true - it depends on* what * story you’d be referring to. And, Hush with your childish, “world against MJ”. Your OWN words…As usual.
He's right. That performance Michael was really up his own arse. He needed a reality check and Jarvis gave him one... I just wish I was there to see it. You can't expect to not get any hate when you're on stage acting like you're Jesus.
BLTKellys Exactly. Michael would be the first to say he never ever thought of himself as Christ but that he did try to live a Christ-like life which by the way he did.
Its not even just the performance. Putting it in the context of time, the allegations that he had just been facing, it was in very bad taste. And to all the people saying "Oh, he was just playing a Messianic role" - irrelevant. He was playing Messianic role at a time when he should have been playing a fucking humbled role.
Typical fucking MJ fans. Seriously - wtf is up with you lot? Why are you so insecure that you can't handle the fact that some people don't think every single thing MJ did was brilliant? Why can't you handle the fact that some people don't like MJ? Why do you care? You just reinforce all the negative things people said about him by acting out the way that you do. Grow the fuck up.
earinsound People like you wanted him to be a child molester so badly. It hurts you that he was found NOT guilty when he took it to trial the 2nd time and when Chandler released the audio recording of his wicked father coercing him into LYING on the King of Pop during the 90s with the first false allegation. He admitted there was nothing inappropriate and that his father made him do it. Michael Jackson was not a child molester. It was all fun and games to make fun of him when we were kids. But we are all grown and the truth has already been revealed. Quit being willfully ignorant and grow up already.
SwingRiots why be forced into extreme humility (which he was already very humble) if you know you are innocent. Only weak minded people let others mold them and let the opinions of others bend their will.
@ThisLazyMan Michael did use his money, buy you don't have to believe me, look up for yourself. He gave away over $300 million dollars to different charities, not to mention his time and love. What more can one person do? If he didn't get his message out on an award show, where was he supposed to do it? On the street corner and get mobbed? A commerical? No matter what Michael Jackson did or did not do, he still would have been criticized by people who have done far less or nothing at all..
Well, I respect that, but I am with Jarvis on this one, Michael would have needed some reality in his life, I'm not saying he wasn't a great human being and a great entertainer, it was just sad to me the way he ended. I mean his music was never the issue it was always him, the way he presented himself, it was like a two sided coin, on the one side it was all really playful and peaceful, but on the other it was all weird and strange and just unnatural in a way.
@jorilyne17
that's no way to start a fight! you're supposed to tell me to piss off or something! (love and peace to you)
@MJJFanVideos
who cares whose idea it was? it was still his money and he went along with it.
@Viczey
nice to meet you too. and you're not going to change anyone's opinion either, especially by saying someone can't possibly be a paedophile on the grounds of "not having had a childhood".
Below are my last posts to you, (depending on whether you can answer the questions that have been long asked of you - or forget replying and remain ignorant) We shall see. I was replying to the last post you left, but it seems it has been removed while replying to it?? Hmm!
Anyway, posts below!
jarvs when was on stage with pulp he was flying on stage and to say he did not like mj over mj doing earth song but was ok for jarvis to fly i just wish the knob and fell on stage
5 - wanted to know MORE than what was being said and printed out in the public domain. You would have wanted BOTH sides of this, because the accusations are now directed toward one of your OWN, or someone who you’ve admired & have a gut feeling all does not seem as is being presented on the surface.
More so, you’d have sat in the courtroom hearing and watching things unfold in a COMPLETELY opposite manner to what you were being fed in the outside world. That is EXACTLY what happened -
@bananacraig
i hate to appear pedantic, but ALL farts are "air" farts!
i love jarvis what a man
2014 "Earth Song" voted best performance of the Brits
The performance of Michael Jackson Earth Song 1996 singing has been voted the best performance in the history of the BRIT Awards in a new survey.
"Someone Like You" by Adele second in 2011 and the Spice Girls with "Who Do You Think You Are" 1997 in third place.
No prizes for your ass, Jarvis
+Holly Butler just so you know , your opinion is not a fact; maybe you are the ignorant
+Holly Butler "He thought he was the messiah. He wasn't. Just another person."
What does that even mean ? Makes no sense.
Reality check ?
Did Michael thought that he could fly and heal a cancer patient by sliding his hand down the patient's face. :-D
***** " *Michael thought he was a god of some sort.* "
Facepalm
THISISIT562 yessss you tell em! Jarvis is TRASH, Michael Jackson is the Greatest Entertainer of ALL Time, the King of Pop 👑
Holly Butler How did MJ think he was some sort of god? The Bible actually says to be "Christ-like" and that's all the King of Pop was trying to do. Now following the Bible is wrong? The King of Pop is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't with you people. That's probably why this song and video went on to win so many accolades and to be critically acclaimed. It was a great song with a much needed message. Just look at the problems we still face today....
4 - more like being *Simple-minded*.
When someone, (No matter WHO they are) is accused of such a horrible crime, you don’t just look at it “simply” - in your case, cruising along the *Surface* of what you’ve read & heard reported?
You can bet if that was a family member, or a good friend of yours, though you may have chastised them about how stupid they were to allow a situation/s that could be used against them at some stage, one thing is for sure, you would most DEFINITELY have -
@majorager
he shouldn't have. he should have gone to the jackster's next gig and done it again!
/watch?v=lWaHnlt2I3U Your point is invalid.
@Viczey
my grandfather didn't have much of a childhood either but he didn't get into bed with little boys.
And, one could also say - If you were GENUINELY concernd for your child, then WHY walk straight to a CIVIL LAWYER instead of contacting police / child services? Different scenario - Same principle!
So you're admitting you haven't a clue / done NO relevant research! (Rolls eyes)!
Anyway...Test time:
1. Why did daddy Chandler DEMAND to meet MJ BEFORE the story went public?
2. What did he demand from MJ during that meeting & how did MJ react to demand?
3. Who reported the story to the police?
There are 8 comments for you, (below) - Then, considering you seem to like coming back here...Perhaps we can then get back to the questions you keep avoiding.
4. You could start by answering the Daddy Chandler question… (Though he is no longer alive, because he committed suicide a few months after MJ died) Actually, he shot himself in the head a within days after This Is It was released.
So, which is it? You can remain ignorant, clueless, or learn a few facts that the majority of the public still don’t know about, until an honest film is made.
Facts are Facts …whether one is a fan of anyone or not. Fact!
Jarvis cocker, artist and realist commenting on MJ , performer and wierdo.
It's all about keeping in touch with REALITY, and of corse The Common People.
Exactly!
Cocker cocked-up! What some don't get is - what MJ sang about *IS* REALITY. He wrote this song back in the mid-90's, BEFORE so-called global-warming experts etc, arrived on the scene. MJ was well clued-in to the REALITIES going on. A performer who expressed this song with extra visual messages that night; His video version ends differenty. Also, MJ has often worn white shirts on stage for other songs which don't have any profound message. Some people should research before commenting.
My first reaction was to bitch about Mr Cocker, despite thinking MJ had gone too far with his Jesus act. Blessing all the people of the world... give me a damn break. And I love MJ. But Jarvis did what he had to do I guess.
I like how wearing white and spreading awareness is apparently impersonating God lol
I just...noone comes out of this whole saga very well do they. It is essentially one self indulgent man criticising another self indulgent man for being self indulgent....by being self indulgent
Jarvis came out of it great. I remember watching that performance on TV and thinking that it was a bit much to present himself as Messiah/ healer and the different faiths 'kissing the ring'.
Ohhh, so just because some people in Britain has heard of him - can he be called a legend? Sorry dude, but it takes more than that to get the title "Legend".
Fame doesn't factor into your status of legend, it's what you do that defines you.
@@prongs0611 Then what? A failed Actor or Singer like Jarvis cocker 👿
@@ProofCare his music was amazing though, doesn’t matter if he wasn’t as popular.
Jarvis Cocker is the one who needs reality. I don't see him helping children or donating money to dying children or spending time with children at orphanages and hospitals.
Did Jarvis hit Jackson then?
Indeed, it was Charley Chaplin.. I think?
Ngl as someone who is a fan of both Jarvis and Jackson this was a chad move I wish I could have done that
100% Agreed. People are just so ignorant. Till this day, they still believe that Michael was guilty for those allegations. It annoys me how people seems to be seeking drama instead of the truth. For that reason, I will always come to MJ's defense no matter what. Here's a tip for all those haters:Don't ask us to prove MJ's innocence because the trial has already done that for us. Ask yourself HOW he's guilty for all those charges and be prepared to have concrete evidence to back up your claims.
Jarvis whooo? i wonder what he does now for a living
More than Michael is doing...
well done, you leached of the most famous man in the world for attention. you got it :).
@vallieegirl
So you don't in any way think that earth song is one of the most over pretentious songs written in history?
who cares? he fuckin aplogized, thats all that matters
@JUSTME873
he'd look like jacko then, wouldn't he?
Why doesn't he just admit he was drunk and wanted to be silly?
I'd respect him more if he'd just admit it.
Sure, Michael could have used 'a reality check', but religion has been a source for inspiration for music practically since the first lyrics were set to notes.
Does he ever wash his hair? Oh I love how he says he thought Michael's performance was in "bad taste" so that's why he did what he did? Oh but what he did was in GOOD TASTE????? What an asshole. Jealous of Michael's talent and popularity.
Well it's better than touching up little children.
+Holly Butler Michael Jackson is the KING PIN of the music industry, and that is why jarvis couldn't release FUCK ALL after that incident.
FUCK jarvis cokcer.... he is now a nobody!
Listen ***** it is very obvious you are very MISINFORMED, MISGUIDED, COLOUR-PEJUDICE,STUPID and have been HOODWINKED by the MEDIA......
One the four 'M's" you people use the POLUTE the entire planet with.
When you attack BLACK/AFRICA people or even your own people who doesn't agree with your FILFTH, the MEDIA(paparazzi,propaganda), MONITORY(money which is fake), MEDICINE(aids,ebola,the flues,germ warfare) and FUCKING HELL ON EARTH...... THE MILITARY.... WAR WAR WAR waged upon the people of this planet....... Go and research and stop spreading propaganda... talking out your BLOOD-CLAAT RECTUM.
jarvis cocker is SHIT.....!
Mooseman He was found innocent. Grow up. Those type of jokes are played out.
It cost him millions to sway that though.
i dont have to prove anything to you, no smoke without fire. Your comments are therfore empty, prove he is 100% innocent then!
"Funny how some people speak in defence of MJ like they personally knew him"
Then you may as well say - Funny how some people speak about and accuse MJ of being guilty "like they personally knew him",
There are plenty of people who have defended MJ who DID know him more on a personal level and they have said and still say nothing but good about him. Funny how many choose to IGNORE what these people have to say too.
It was just a joke Micheal was just trying to impress his audience and do something that nobody else has ever done