Just another layer to the Hyuna shit: She used to be a close friend to Goo Hara and her new MAN used to be Hara's boyfriend, and she gave everything to expose Burning Sun, girlie even called him out for being in those group chats mocking VICTIMS of this entire ring of abuse... After all of that Hyuna goes and dates one of her garbage exes...? I know this is a month old (I forgot to watch this when it came out nobody look at me too hard💀) but it's a huge reason why a lot of people were and still are intensely angry at her for this.
anyway what is especially frustrating about harry is that as a korean-american he was considered one of the most educated people in the khh industry and he was also one of the few if not the only rapper to acknowledge the massive influence black culture has on khh like he was generally respected by most khh fans why would you throw that away for OWEN out of all people...
God i cant believe harry would be loyal to that type of person. Why's it always gotta be such a battle to enjoy korean entertainment as a black woman 😂
You’re ending note about associating and celebrities acting up+ talking about people and who they associate with literally brought tears to my eyes. It was very pointed and heartfelt, and something that I feel completely.
I'm sorry, Owen's actions are humorous to me because he would not last in my city nonetheless my school. Dude is so ignorant to the point he cannot handle seeing his own actions when it's shown right in his face.
He wouldn't last in my school because racism is not tolerated at all, people will fight if you just look at them the wrong way, stabbings, people in gangs, someone from my school got shot dead, police presence are here essentially everyday.
You deserve all the support and attention in the world right now. Thank you for raising awareness to these awful sasaeng situations that are very real and very actively going on as we speak. Please keep on exposing them!
the harry one is the most disappointing for me, he seemed like a rational and mature guy. I wonder if he owes him money or something, cause friends like that aren't worth keeping
Owen saying "Why should I talk about the movement?" Makes me wanna yell at him and go "Idk man, maybe because YOU'RE LITERALLY PROFITING OFF A MUSIC GENRE BLACK PEOPLE LITERALLY CREATED TO CRITICIZE SOCIETAL ISSUES AND INJUSTICE! And here you are, not even giving them credit or the justice they deserve by uplifting their voices😒😒😒 Now you're gonna continue making money with the music they created and ignore their injustice."
It never failed to gag me the way Owen just "oh why must i recognize the struggles of black people?" Um...cause you profit off the culture?! What?! Harry made his bed apologizing for a grown man was beyond lame and low. P.S Khiphop is just a bunch caricatures of what a right winger perceives black people to be...thanking Jay Park for pushing Khiphop when Yoonmirrae and Tiger JK were really the ONLY krappers that really respected the culture and displayed the artistry I a way that wasn't mockery. I'm done with them.
Hey, Duck! As always, thanks for the new video:))) -When it comes to the Owen situation, I can’t help but to laugh. Not cause it’s funny, but cause it’s sad and ridiculous. Sometimes I truly cannot believe we share the planet with people like him…it’s crazy.🤥 -In regard to Hyuna, it’s extremely unfortunate. I just started getting into K-pop Feb 3 of last year, but I didn’t find Hyuna till around November, I wanna say, so even though I wasn’t a long time fan, this was still very crushing. Despite my feelings, she lost a lot, and rightfully so, in my opinion. She’s grown, these are just the consequences of her actions and I hope people stop babying her. I also hate the ppl saying “oh, how comes she’s getting more flack than J?” Like, she’s not…he got his flack, he’s STILL getting flack, but at the end of the day, she has to get her dues too for associating w him…we’re also not being hard on her bc she’s a celebrity and “oh she’s about feminism” (no comment on that cause I never came to that conclusion), we’re being hard on her because she’s a human just like us…she’s not exempt from anything. She don’t get special treatment cause she’s a liked celebrity, so I hope ppl stop saying that too…🤥 That’s all. -Again, thanks for your continued work:)❤️🌹
The best thing that I can tell people is to never admire or fully trust any public figures or idolize them. You’ll be disappointed in yourself for believing and supporting them
First of all, this is NOT to defend anyone who has said/done horrible things. However, in cases where an overall fine/nice/good person gets pulled into a relationship (romantic or otherwise) with a bad or abusive person, please, if you can help it, do not cut your friend off! Good people are already so vulnerable to the machinations and manipulations of bad/abusive people, they don't need any more anger or isolation pushing them further into the arms of someone who is actively trying to isolate them from anyone who might call them out on all the bad/abusive stuff they're trying to get away with.
okay finally finished vid, im done dead now dawg, this shits ridiculous. I feel like people nowaydays genuinely think that "saying something lightheartedly" and personifying what you say are 2 different things.... Like ladies and gentlemen, if you see a hiphop aah MAN say rancid ass shit that would make you feel unsafe around him, HE PROBABLY IS UNSAFE . Goddamn
Fandom is such a double edged sword and I think kpop puts a spotlight on this with the devotion/parasocial relationship promoted by these huge companies. However I’ll never ascribe to this “separate the artist from their music” bs and I’m not sure when that became expected of fans. I think a lot of people just are indifferent to horrible things until it happens to them or a loved one. Since money is power, I’ll do whatever it takes to keep even a 0.0002¢ stream out of someone like Owen’s pockets.
17:09 that actually makes a lot of sense (not a Jay Park fan at allll tho) I really think there is a difference between white american artists cosplaying black or asians with or makeup or styling, (this is either cringe or racist and insensitive) and non-whites doing it... all non caucasians can relate to suffering from white colonisation/slavery over history... There is a gap between just cultures mixing together and communication/influencing each other, and racism... If there is admiration and respect, I don't see the problem. Fight actual racism/specism instead... IMO.
Yes, all non-caucasians can relate to the experience of racism, colonisation and white supremacy which makes the casual displays of antiblackness (which is the most widespread form of racism) from non-Black POC all the more unforgivable. We all know what living in a white supremacist world does to the brain yet we think we should get a pass when internalizing one of the most prominent feature of white supremacy: antiblackness. Where is the solidarity here? Only the people whose culture is being profited off can decide what is respect, admiration and what is insult and gentrification. Kpop/KHop idols appropriating Hip Hop culture while being antiblack is NOT admiration, respect and culture mixing.
Just realized that a song that I like feature both Jay Park and Ph-1💀💀💀💀 I was listening to it just because they had Ningning from Aespa in it💀 damn Edit: I also love Hyuna omg this is literally such a bad time 💀
the whole of 52 vids??? LMAO I only got one from the first year of my group's membership (we at 3rd year now and they don't do those vids anymore) and it was whole blessing to hear my real name spoken, read that off a script with my name on it but eeee😂😂😭😭 what do you mean one for each week?
it wasn't just because of that at all.. there's many instances you could find where she fought to protect other female idols she was seen as a feminist because she genuinely went out of her way to speak up on good things and empower women in the public eye. for years. that's why it's so shocking that she does this because it contradicts everything we thought she stood for.
It doesn't surprise me, honesty. Nowadays, people have an odd concept of feminism (performative, capitalist, "girl-power", and hypersexual). They think that being feminist is "thinking that women and man have the same rights", when it's more like that (more work, more reading, education...). People call "feminist" to anyone who does the bare minimum and then get disappointed when those same persons don't follow their expectations. Wow, surprise.
She made her entire image about women empowerment. The fact that you think people only saw her as a feminist is due to her promiscuousness says more about you than anythiny else
Hi (Jil Here) I wanted to say thank you again for including the short part about me in the video and calling out these people again + making some more clarification about what happened.🫂 Edit: please don't apologize to me or feel guilty about this Duck😭 it's not your fault at all:((
omg hii and of course!! i felt and still feel bad about the whole thing, it’s so weird how people reacted to your thread when you didn’t make the video or points. it also got on my nerves how arrogant some of the people who were super outspoken were. i hope you’re going good, HAPPY P1 FIRST WIN
![What's your relationship, Hyuna & Junhyung? [Happy Together/2016.08.04]](/img/n.gif)
Just another layer to the Hyuna shit: She used to be a close friend to Goo Hara and her new MAN used to be Hara's boyfriend, and she gave everything to expose Burning Sun, girlie even called him out for being in those group chats mocking VICTIMS of this entire ring of abuse...
After all of that Hyuna goes and dates one of her garbage exes...? I know this is a month old (I forgot to watch this when it came out nobody look at me too hard💀) but it's a huge reason why a lot of people were and still are intensely angry at her for this.
Girlie?💀
anyway what is especially frustrating about harry is that as a korean-american he was considered one of the most educated people in the khh industry and he was also one of the few if not the only rapper to acknowledge the massive influence black culture has on khh like he was generally respected by most khh fans why would you throw that away for OWEN out of all people...
no bcs kpop twt blew up when this happened it was so DISHEARTENING
REAL
"who gives a fuck if she's a minor" MMM SIR THE LAW DOES ?!?!?!
Jail is just a place.
Owen is insane he blocked me for saying that his insta apology looks like it was taken from chatgpt 😬😬😬
LMAOO NOT THE CHATGPT
LMAOOO
😂😂😂😂 you're a menace😂😂😂
YOU'RE SO REAL FOR THAT WHAT
LMFAO
God i cant believe harry would be loyal to that type of person. Why's it always gotta be such a battle to enjoy korean entertainment as a black woman 😂
You’re ending note about associating and celebrities acting up+ talking about people and who they associate with literally brought tears to my eyes. It was very pointed and heartfelt, and something that I feel completely.
awwww thank you 🥹🫶
“so what if she’s underaged who gives a fck” THE LAW??????? THE LAW DOES????????
I'm sorry, Owen's actions are humorous to me because he would not last in my city nonetheless my school. Dude is so ignorant to the point he cannot handle seeing his own actions when it's shown right in his face.
He wouldn't last in my school because racism is not tolerated at all, people will fight if you just look at them the wrong way, stabbings, people in gangs, someone from my school got shot dead, police presence are here essentially everyday.
Man’s gotta watch his back out here in the us.
You deserve all the support and attention in the world right now. Thank you for raising awareness to these awful sasaeng situations that are very real and very actively going on as we speak. Please keep on exposing them!
thank you 🥹🫶
the harry one is the most disappointing for me, he seemed like a rational and mature guy. I wonder if he owes him money or something, cause friends like that aren't worth keeping
Owen saying "Why should I talk about the movement?" Makes me wanna yell at him and go "Idk man, maybe because YOU'RE LITERALLY PROFITING OFF A MUSIC GENRE BLACK PEOPLE LITERALLY CREATED TO CRITICIZE SOCIETAL ISSUES AND INJUSTICE! And here you are, not even giving them credit or the justice they deserve by uplifting their voices😒😒😒 Now you're gonna continue making money with the music they created and ignore their injustice."
It never failed to gag me the way Owen just "oh why must i recognize the struggles of black people?" Um...cause you profit off the culture?! What?! Harry made his bed apologizing for a grown man was beyond lame and low.
P.S Khiphop is just a bunch caricatures of what a right winger perceives black people to be...thanking Jay Park for pushing Khiphop when Yoonmirrae and Tiger JK were really the ONLY krappers that really respected the culture and displayed the artistry I a way that wasn't mockery. I'm done with them.
This gave me flashbacks to unpretty rapstar
I don’t feel like Harry’s statement was an apology but mostly an explanation to why he gave him a second chance
i get that, i called it an apology since he said sorry in the statement
me clicking on this video because i also happen to be into khh, just to see my own comment from your last vid on the screen thats crazy
Hey, Duck! As always, thanks for the new video:)))
-When it comes to the Owen situation, I can’t help but to laugh. Not cause it’s funny, but cause it’s sad and ridiculous. Sometimes I truly cannot believe we share the planet with people like him…it’s crazy.🤥
-In regard to Hyuna, it’s extremely unfortunate. I just started getting into K-pop Feb 3 of last year, but I didn’t find Hyuna till around November, I wanna say, so even though I wasn’t a long time fan, this was still very crushing. Despite my feelings, she lost a lot, and rightfully so, in my opinion. She’s grown, these are just the consequences of her actions and I hope people stop babying her. I also hate the ppl saying “oh, how comes she’s getting more flack than J?” Like, she’s not…he got his flack, he’s STILL getting flack, but at the end of the day, she has to get her dues too for associating w him…we’re also not being hard on her bc she’s a celebrity and “oh she’s about feminism” (no comment on that cause I never came to that conclusion), we’re being hard on her because she’s a human just like us…she’s not exempt from anything. She don’t get special treatment cause she’s a liked celebrity, so I hope ppl stop saying that too…🤥
That’s all.
-Again, thanks for your continued work:)❤️🌹
for a hot fucking minute i thought it said p1h i was shell-shocked
Yeah same
oh yeah me too then she showed the pic of him and I was RELIVED
The best thing that I can tell people is to never admire or fully trust any public figures or idolize them. You’ll be disappointed in yourself for believing and supporting them
yay new duck video 🩷
First of all, this is NOT to defend anyone who has said/done horrible things. However, in cases where an overall fine/nice/good person gets pulled into a relationship (romantic or otherwise) with a bad or abusive person, please, if you can help it, do not cut your friend off!
Good people are already so vulnerable to the machinations and manipulations of bad/abusive people, they don't need any more anger or isolation pushing them further into the arms of someone who is actively trying to isolate them from anyone who might call them out on all the bad/abusive stuff they're trying to get away with.
love your videos!!!!!
You keep doing this and you don’t stop ✋🏾 🛑 doing it
okay finally finished vid, im done dead now dawg, this shits ridiculous. I feel like people nowaydays genuinely think that "saying something lightheartedly" and personifying what you say are 2 different things.... Like ladies and gentlemen, if you see a hiphop aah MAN say rancid ass shit that would make you feel unsafe around him, HE PROBABLY IS UNSAFE . Goddamn
I lovr the part where you just rant about everything that happened, sharing your own thoughts!!!!!
Fandom is such a double edged sword and I think kpop puts a spotlight on this with the devotion/parasocial relationship promoted by these huge companies.
However I’ll never ascribe to this “separate the artist from their music” bs and I’m not sure when that became expected of fans. I think a lot of people just are indifferent to horrible things until it happens to them or a loved one. Since money is power, I’ll do whatever it takes to keep even a 0.0002¢ stream out of someone like Owen’s pockets.
owen is literally so weird....
Yay you got mocharia! Ready to watch this 🫡
9:48 that screen recording message legit got me confused then scared for a moment lmao
SHARE MORE OF UR OPINIONS. i love your viewpoints and things you have to say abt these situations.
Everyone in this video (except Jil) needs to get checked because what the hell
congrats on over 4k !!
thank you!! 😭🫶
My boyfriend loves PH1, wait till I tell him the tea (I always tell him about the kpop drama)
17:09 that actually makes a lot of sense (not a Jay Park fan at allll tho)
I really think there is a difference between white american artists cosplaying black or asians with or makeup or styling, (this is either cringe or racist and insensitive) and non-whites doing it...
all non caucasians can relate to suffering from white colonisation/slavery over history...
There is a gap between just cultures mixing together and communication/influencing each other, and racism...
If there is admiration and respect, I don't see the problem. Fight actual racism/specism instead... IMO.
Yes, all non-caucasians can relate to the experience of racism, colonisation and white supremacy which makes the casual displays of antiblackness (which is the most widespread form of racism) from non-Black POC all the more unforgivable. We all know what living in a white supremacist world does to the brain yet we think we should get a pass when internalizing one of the most prominent feature of white supremacy: antiblackness. Where is the solidarity here?
Only the people whose culture is being profited off can decide what is respect, admiration and what is insult and gentrification. Kpop/KHop idols appropriating Hip Hop culture while being antiblack is NOT admiration, respect and culture mixing.
omg i st4r WAS SOOOO ANNOYING i personlly went into a 2 day fight with them till they blocked just bc they dont want to facee the truth like cmon
oh wow, thanks for your service 🫡
God DAMN do i hate seeing faves name pop up in titles like these. Hhhh...Shit dawg, i really liked harry 😐
The funny thing is that before pH-1 wrote his sorry not sorry, he previously spoke about canceled culture on a podcast cast 😂
u make me want to learn a new language just to understand u
💀
oh- 😃 english or spanish?
@@duckypatosame and Spanish 😂 as in like I want to be in the clubbb
ty for buying the mocharía game 🙏🙏
19:10 Whaaaaat? Who the hell does he think he is?
I love your videos
thank you ☺️
Just realized that a song that I like feature both Jay Park and Ph-1💀💀💀💀 I was listening to it just because they had Ningning from Aespa in it💀 damn
Edit: I also love Hyuna omg this is literally such a bad time 💀
the whole of 52 vids??? LMAO I only got one from the first year of my group's membership (we at 3rd year now and they don't do those vids anymore) and it was whole blessing to hear my real name spoken, read that off a script with my name on it but eeee😂😂😭😭 what do you mean one for each week?
if he farted she would have smelt it im done🤣
i want to buy mocharia now
The idea that the kpop community tried to act like Hyuna was a feminist just because she made promiscuous or sexual music is so wrong
it wasn't just because of that at all.. there's many instances you could find where she fought to protect other female idols she was seen as a feminist because she genuinely went out of her way to speak up on good things and empower women in the public eye. for years. that's why it's so shocking that she does this because it contradicts everything we thought she stood for.
It doesn't surprise me, honesty. Nowadays, people have an odd concept of feminism (performative, capitalist, "girl-power", and hypersexual). They think that being feminist is "thinking that women and man have the same rights", when it's more like that (more work, more reading, education...). People call "feminist" to anyone who does the bare minimum and then get disappointed when those same persons don't follow their expectations. Wow, surprise.
She made her entire image about women empowerment. The fact that you think people only saw her as a feminist is due to her promiscuousness says more about you than anythiny else
1 min ago whoa
Theyre still men :D
Hi (Jil Here)
I wanted to say thank you again for including the short part about me in the video and calling out these people again + making some more clarification about what happened.🫂
Edit: please don't apologize to me or feel guilty about this Duck😭 it's not your fault at all:((
omg hii and of course!! i felt and still feel bad about the whole thing, it’s so weird how people reacted to your thread when you didn’t make the video or points. it also got on my nerves how arrogant some of the people who were super outspoken were. i hope you’re going good, HAPPY P1 FIRST WIN
i was literally just thinking about this yesterday how weird.. i don’t know much about the situation so im excited to watch 🫢