It shouldn't be necessary to kill thousands and thousands of animals anyway. Casual players will never see GOs. On the flipside of the change they should come up with something different spawn wise to make up for it so normal player also have a chance to mount a GO at some point.
Agreed. I'm more than a casual player, but I play it for the "realism" and never had any interest in doing a grind. I've gotten tons of rares and diamonds just playing the traditional way and getting lucky by being persistent, and I still don't really care if I ever get a GO. It's not like I'd hit the reserve and enact a deer genocide just to get one with the size and coloration I wanted to hang on my wall. 😂
I think this is the best way to look at it there should be no need to actually have to grind for a great one there’s so many people that just don’t want to grind cause it can be so boring and unfortunately 99% of people that don’t grind will never see a great one
I actually returned to the game when I found out that fast traveling didn't spook animals anymore. I had quit a long time ago when I realized the amount of effort that would go into grinding for great ones and diamonds and the fact that I would never have the time to do it. Sensor turning I've actually had quite a lot of fun, I feel that the game was a lot more balanced with this"bug". Unfortunately I think that I'm fixing it will result in me leaving once again
The invisible animals when traveling to tents has been in the game since it basically Came out so how are they only Changing it now and saying it Wasn’t as intended
I don’t understand the thought process that grinding and herd management is ruining the game! How is jealousy plaguing this game?! How ever many GOs IBuy has doesn’t effect ANYONE else’s game! I have grinded for Red Deer for over 1k kills without a GOs. It is an arduous, time consuming, and quite frankly boring way to play the game! Tens of hours to set up, then who knows how many hours of shooting the same animal over and over and over. But that’s the ironic part. The grinders are the ones playing the game the most! They are the truly dedicated players putting in the hours in hopes that trophy will finally appear. So let them reap their rewards! And honestly, what percentage of the player base grinds to the point of damaging the value of a trophy?
@@jider ok? The things y’all are saying have 0 relation to my comment if your saying people who actually hunt don’t have lives how come most grinders sit on the game all day teleporting tent to tent grinding?
@@DukeJimbob Its not that big of a deal. I dont “need” a G1 urgently it will come eventually. I am a patient person but also we dont know 100% how the changes are going to affect the grind its all speculation to a certain degree. And even so with the cotw community someone out there will find a work around within a week and everyone will be back to their grinds in no time
“Get them now” is easy to do if you have the spare time to play as much as streamers but I have very little spare time to play but I love the game just gonna be harder I guess 🤷🏻♂️
I disagree, it changes the way it allowed others to play the game. Now it is back to being mod friendly and streamer friendly because most players can't play for 12 hrs a day.
@@LadyLegendXO It changes everything. All my maps have 16 tents perfectly placed at roughly 200m away from every lake and now I'm going to have to spend hours trying to relocate all of those tents! This may ruin the game completely. No one wants to spend hours readjusting something they already spent hours setting up to begin with.
They made it so they render in now when you fast travel, no problem, we can adapt to that, but this next update is really going to stop that, we can't adapt to that at all, and EW has a history of not listening to the players like they say they do, so I'm hoping for once they finally do, cause trying to get a go Tahr, considering it can take up to 10k+ is going to be near impossible, and they probably won't listen to us so we gotta hope that content creators like you Lady, will for us, so you've earned a lot of peoples respect, guarantee, as you've voiced your concern for something that will not be seen if this goes through
That's what I was waiting for like many years FR. Super news. Maybe I will turn back to COTW again. Sorry hunter classic my first love :( When there was an easy way, I preferred taking it even if I didn't want to, rather than the hard way. I just had to visit the tents and guarantee find animals by the lakeside. (Now there's a 250-meter spook radius.) If there's no such convenience now, I'll have to roam the map to find animals. This makes me feel more like hunter.
7 years on and the Devs still don't understand that they are selling a single player game and not a live service. "Player choice" is somehow heresy to them and they feel they must control exactly how everyone plays the game. They constantly act like they are balancing an MMO. So stupid.
It is so ironic and stupid from the developers. So first of all they removed initial spawn GO's, so you have to grind to get a GO. Then they add a Tahr GO in the game, which is really underwhelming for me and a big part of the community, because most people were hoping for an elk , deer or another predator GO. And then they basically remove the abillity to grind for Tahr. I probably would'nt have grinded the Tahr anyway, even tough I grinded all the other GO's, but for all people how are trying to get one it is really a punch in the face. I really don't understand why I and other players participated in their community surveys. It almost seems that they are trying to loose their supportive players.
I loved the fact tents didnt spook animals anymore. It makes tent placement so much easier. Not a fan they are gonna change it to 250. Some lakes dont have good tent placement locations wothout spooking animals and it was a huge pain. I really hope they dont change it or reduce the spook radias to like 50-100
I play casually a few hours per week, I have my Tahr grind set up. EW really gonna hurt the game doing this. Might just stop playing the entire game because of this it will ruin the game.
I don’t think the lake method will change, I think the tent changes will affect it to a degree for tigers but if anything I think they will adjust the spawn rates of rares so takes more kills.recently had done changes to old grinds so I guess will have to change them back again which is a bummer, if they are able to change it hopefully depending on feedback of the community they change it back if enough people give feedback on it.
it is incredibly disappointing, but unfortunately it seems the developers don't pay any attention to the feedback from the community, despite the various posts they have asking for feedback etc, otherwise they would fix all the real bugs before making changes because of apparently unforeseen outcomes of changes, changes and outcomes that most of the community are happy about.
For those who grind without herd management and use all 16 tents at different zones it means a lot of walking. It was perfect having my tent beside my shooting position, quickly get my 4 wheeler right beside me and pick up my kills. plus walking to my shooting position just slows down the game. I don't have pick up tents, i cant manage my map down like the pro's. This will affect all my grinds with a lot of walking
It’s like the devs are trying to kill their game… terrible change. Just make the spook range like 50-100m these devs have always been incompetent and it’s only getting worse.
@@minigatorfan not even grinding I just like putting tents close to lakes so I don’t have to run forever. Now it’s just gonna be even more of a running walking sim.
@@minigatorfan How in the world are non-grinders affected? It's not like they are forced to grind, they do whatever they want with their game, same as grinders. Your take makes no sense.
May be they can add an option "Fast travel to tent will spook animals", so people who want to play more realistically can turn on the option and people who just want to grind rare animals can turn off the option...
From someone that has been playing this game for awhile and had also been grinding a bunch of different animals for G1s or rares. This completely changes most zones that are able to be hunted. Tahr G1s are now never going to be a thing and that's sad.
I am not going to grind Tahr after this update. Why not just make the spook radius like 75 to 100 meters? It's a terrible move by EW IMO... Everything else sounded good but this just ruins the update...
@@googoo7750 I've seen lots of comments thinking otherwise. I love the game but this just doesn't sound good to me, but at the same time I see your point.
Thank you very much for your comments to this coming update. I don´t do the kind of grind where you shoot 30 animals in less than an hour, it has - for me - nothing to do with hunting. I do however think that a 250m spook zone is too much - 150m would be more like it. IRL I can walk -against the wind - to within 150m of the animals without spooking them. Meaning that in the game I should be able arrive at my tent 150 meter from the animals without spooking them.
why 250 meters tho for a tent,.... why not just 100 or 150, [250 is really,... really,... stupid] 100m to 150 from a zone is far enough 250 is too much
The update dropped today. Now i am in the situation, Lady expressed, i am not able to drop tents in the range due to tent placement restrictions. They have to improve tent placement or else every grind is dead on 'non flat' maps. And they changed the zeroing rotation. Now it's backwards. Very annoying. :-(
After almost 5K hours in the game and my own content, I have now quit cotw because of this. EW has been making it harded for grinders for the last while. I went from looking forward to the Tahr grind to now not playing at all and uninstalled the game. One thing I loved about this game was you could play in what ever style you wanted and now they are taking some of that away from us. They say they listen to the community but unfortunately not the grinders. There was a discussion also in the official discord and it was said they said nothing about the 250 but it is there in comment. Have fun all and enjoy the game all but for me my journey with COTW is done.
The beginning of the end for EW. The map is so thick to begin with it's hard as is. Unless the tahrs get updated with drink zones sundarpartan is useless
250 meters is too far. On the new map sometimes the only place to place a tent is by the lake because it’s all hills everywhere else. Hopefully they will return sooner.
I think it's a clear demonstration that they don't like grinding despite what they keep saying. The animals not rendering in has been a thing for years and not been mentioned as a bug. Now it's a bug that we have been using as an exploit. Jaxy said the tents were working as intended soon after the release of Sudarpatan, now they're bugged. Although I am not at all pleased with the change I will find a way, for now that way will probably be to just not install the update and play in offline mode. I have one GO Tahr for now but getting tents anywhere in the Tahr area is difficult already. Now we will not only be faced with the challenge of placing them again at 250+ but also running to where you can hopefully see the tahr and that's if they are there at all. I'm already confident that most tents at that distance will not have a clear view of the zone I intend to shoot. Some will yes, but not many. I wish they'd just be honest because their intentions toward the grinders are clear yet they keep saying otherwise.
I'm hoping that they will take the community's response into account and maybe make the spook distance less because yes, the tahr grind will be next to impossible after the update! My other grinds are fine. Not worried about them. And I don't have a GO Tahr yet. I'm at 2400 kills and grinding hard! Gotta get one soon! Thanks Tank!
I left the game when they changed the spook radius to 270m years ago, came back for Australia but just couldn’t stick around. Since the tent update, I’ve played every day and even set up a euro bison grind on hirsch which I wouldn’t have even considered if it wasn’t for the tent change. Shocking decision to revert it or ‘fix’ it
These kinds of changes are why I'm glad I can mod my maps. What I find fun and enjoyable and what the devs find fun and enjoyable are just so wildly different in some respects.
First tiger I ever found was an albino so I am indeed so very happy they are fixing that because I was heartbroken to find out it was just orange. I started my tiger rare grind today on those three lakes because of this and I got a White Tiger for my first tiger starting the grind. Thank you so much Lady for your vids and your fantastic info, you have helped me out so so much!
I'm a casual player and already don't have time to grind usually although I'm trying my best with the time that I have. Changes making it even more difficult just sounds heartbreaking.
Big changes are coming for sure, I’m new to the game (50ish hours in and haven’t even thought to try taking on a grind) but seeing so much of the community up in arms about this change definitely has me concerned for the future. I hope the devs listen to everyone’s feedback because they do seem to care about their community more than most, but only time will tell.
I suppose when you fast travel, you are running/walking to the tent off screen. So animals will spook. Actually how animals didn't render next to your tent, used to be useful for me personally. You could kill other things in the distance. Move towards them, harvest and the animals that are next to your tent, render in, you can kill them next. Not sure what to think about the new spook radius though. Have to see how it works in two weeks time. Great video again Lady. Thank you for the update on this ❤️
Not happy about the tent change. Most of my best Tahr zones will be impossible to use. Either there will be nowhere to set a tent down 250 meters away, or it'll be impossible to sneak up on them through the long vegetation and steep terrain without spooking them. I stopped playing the game for over a year as it just got a bit boring. Came back for the Tahr grind as it was something a bit different and more challenging to attempt and I've been having a lot of fun with it. Not sure if I'll still keep playing after this change, at least not as much as I am right now.
@@LadyLegendXO I hope they at least make some kind of change with the tahr to make it possible to keep grinding them. Either give them a drink zone or a caller. Otherwise I don't know how anyone is going to get a great one!
So upset bought the game with last sale in EU, figured it out fast, now i´m on my red deer grind still need more tents and now they change it. WTF game is dead for me when update comes. they should fix UI instead. shop and camp is so painfull.
I think that they are going to make people not want to play on this map with this update no one wants to hunt an impossible map it takes the fun out of it completely
Decissions made by the devs make no sense: So they dont want us to grind Tahr, but at the same time they give us 7 new fur types. Its like bruh you know how many hours does a grind take? Basically they want us to spawn it naturally, nobody is gonna sit and wait till it appears naturally and even with only an unique map and no drink time. For me its gonna be like: This great one doesnt exist 😂
I honestly have no idea what they are thinking with the tahr great ones. Its taking up to 2000 kills for most people to spawn their first GO tahr, that is literally days of grinding. Now having to run an extra 200 meters or whatever to every spawn means no casual player will ever get a GO tahr.
@@QUADRIDER400-l2i hunting in real life pfffff, man this is a Game where the developers crossed the line of realistic hunting experience a long time ago. Its really fun to see the people complaining about grinding (saying this is a way easier to get trophies) when almost all of them do the same doing map hopping (going on a new fresh map only to check drink zones its not realistic tho). This community is really killing the game!
I’m very upset I just setup a wild yak grind using your guide and a tiger guide and I was about to setup a fallow grind and for once I was having fun grinding in my openion it’s a bad move on there part
I was actually gonna try and do my first go grind now that I didn't have to worry about figuring out tent placement which was the worst part of setting up for me...guess that's down the drain lolll
I don't understand why they would change the tent thing, thats not good imo :( I definitely will not do a Tahr grind thats a fact. I belive its ok that there will be some restrictions on the Tigers, but i am very curious to see what it will be :)
i really hope they fix the goats in this update at least. they have such an awful habit of walking through their need zones, then they just keep walking off into the distance and never actually settle. or even fix how animals will allegedly be "drinking" 200m away from their original need zone after being spooked, and never return 🙄 thank you for keeping us updated, though, lady! I've been getting back into your videos a lot lately and even showed them to my friend!!
I just started playing less than a month ago and honestly your videos on grinding were the catalyst that got me to buy the game. Just started my first grind for whitetail like 5 days ago. It's disheartening that I came in and they're making this kind of change. I bought the game and all the dlcs and was somewhat regretting that decision after hearing this news. But I'm gonna play it by ear and see what happens I guess. Keep up the great work Lady. 😊
It used to be 250 m not that long ago. So it's just going back to the way it was and I wouldn't care except for the Tahr grind. I was having so much fun!
Definitely not looking forward to this change. I’ve been grinding to get at least 1 of each diamond on the new map (have 5 left) and this is a huge bummer.
Out of every bug they could fix. Like birds not fleeing, crashing, animals that are frozen in place, invisible trees, animals not being able to be claimed, the bear glitches, apparently moose glitches now, some animals going the speed of sound like foxes and pigs, dogs sometimes completely stop working and stand idle, and ESPECIALLY modded and hacked servers EW chooses an "exploit" that has done nothing wrong but bring in new and old players who just want to play the game. It is ridiculous that there 2024 trailer states "to play the game your way" but here they are limiting how we play. The new spook system is already painful, this may make me play way of hunter even more!
God. I was just about to leave a comment about how the new map had me playing without cheats or mods for the first time in a while and then they do this? Very frustrating. I despise this sort of update in games, stuff that the players actively don’t want
Stupid decision, that tend "glitch" made playing so much more fun. I've been playing every day for the last few weeks because you could easily start a fun grind on every map with every type of animal. When the update comes you will only be able to grind again on Te Awaroa, in the north of Revontuli and on Cuatro. I don't know what that's about, most players don't grind anyway and those who do had a lot more fun.
I am so in love with the tiger grind and i am doing a 4 lake method and it is going so well and i am getting almost too many diamonds but only 1 rare in 121 kills and was hoping to get more but they deciced to ruin it all😢 So what if we all quit playing after the update so then they have to make it the way it was
I feel that the upcoming change isn't actually benefitting the game at all, no one was being disadvantaged by it being the way it is now. It honestly felt like when they "fixed" the render distance it was with the goal of making the tahr grind do able. I'm having so much fun on the tahr using different weapons just enjoying the challenge. Fingers crossed it the community finds some workable solutions to keeping the Tahr GO alive
All my tents localized 200+ meter away from zones So I'm gonna change all 15 tent per 15 map ? I don't like recent changes (like Bear's drinking time) ... Makes the game even more frustrating.
The tent thing won’t effect much for my thar grind because i’ve just been starting at the peak of the top right mountain and running down one line of zones, then going to the top left of the top right zone and hunting back to the other tent. takes more time but it allows me to hunt snow leopards too!
I think 250m fast travel spook is a little overkill. If they reduced it to say 150m then I don't think there would be nearly as much vitriol and complaining as there is right now. Like, if they HAVE to reintroduce fast travel spook then I'd like it if it would be under 200m, preferably 150 because 250m is excessive
I personally don’t have a problem with this update because I like how it’s more “realistic” but I definitely understand why people are upset about it. Personally, I think they should be focusing more on updating animal models (more fur colors/rares and variety of those furs, more variety in antlers/horns, and working on improving overall look of animal models). I personally don’t like the look of male lions in the game because the mane does not look good to me.
the whole thing with the deer not rendering in is in my opinion buggy and should be fixed.. but why should fast traveling to a tent spook animals? i think thats ridiculous.. and its just a waste of the players time. if i want to set up on some herd i want to think about where i want to be in terms of seeing the herd as best i can. and 250 meters aint happening in sundarpatan.
The tahr grind will probably be spawning at one of outposts on top of the mountain, then walking the ridgeline while shooting down the mountain at any tahr you see
With the latest update they said it made animals get closer to the water when drinking but ive noticed quite the opposite on my Revontuli white tail grind. Animals take much longer to get into zones and half the time they are drinking 30 feet from the water in the woods. They use the same zone but they drink in different spots than they once did. I also just got finished adjusting all my tents and tripods so i have good lines of sight but now im going to have to move everything AGAIN. I dont get it. Why not do bug fixes instead of changing game mechanics?
I have in real life set up a dome tent and started cooking my evening meal all the while a doe and her two fawns fed and played within a hundred yards and were not spooked not even a little bit so it "IS" possible to put up a tent without spooking wildlife ....so why does there need to be a spook zone at all ?
Because it's makes the game so easy. Just fast travel and guarantee shoot 3 animals in a few seconds near the lake xd. Trophy animals should be valuable. Miss the OG hunting style.
@@Ada-xo3dy Same here. If there's no sport in it, then it's unfair and pointless, as far as I'm concerned. I hunt for the conservation department for culling overpopulated and ill populations, so we do "cheat" (I bow hunt from a baited tree stand so there is no gunfire or flying bullets, and all my missed shots go into the ground) for the sake of efficacy and safety. But that's *NOT* trophy hunting, it's population control. There should be challenge and skill involved in hunting solely for pleasure.
I'm actually happy with the changes. The game has been far too skewed towards grinding. Great ones weren't supposed to be something that everyone would get. The only thing is that I'd like to see them make it easier to place tents on hills or near vegetation. But I'm on board with any changes that encourage actual hunting and not just making the game a bunch of shooting galleries.
I always played with placing the tents at 250m and I didn't mind, although I would prefer it to be less distance (100-150m). But come on, I always played with the 250m distance and so well. Of course, I hate doing routines for GO, I find them boring, they should appear differently. Greetings from Spain.
Because like 1-2 salty content creators don’t want casual players to get trophies as it gives them less content so they cried and made the devs think it was a big deal even though the majority of players like it
It seems like EA is looking to make things more challenging for grinders. After the last update, black bears do not stand up twice after being alarmed. There are other small things that seem to indicate that they are intentionally making it more difficult for grinders.
Yeah this kind of sucks, I understand the realism balance they are aiming for but at the end of the day it's a game and this made it way more enjoyable. Some bugs should be features
I just started my first fallow grind and I'm set up 100-150yd on almost all of them. Now I'm ripped between if I should kick it into overdrive, or just get used to the 250m (273yd) range before it happens
Grind hard as hell for the next two weeks man you got it. Even if there's no great one, you'll still have progress if you're doing herd management. You'll probably get a few diamonds by then too, good luck!
Yeah that seriously blows. Why tease us with that change in the first place. Hope the Dev's are reading the comments. Too bad for the poor bastards that struggle to get more than 10 hours a week in game. Or haven't had the chance to shoot their 2000-3000 tigers yet. Everything is just a bloody slog. Spent hours and hours and $100k trying to find all the tiger zones and could only find 11/16
We'll see how it pans out. The community is not happy so Jaxy said that they'd take the community response into account. Maybe they'll change it. I think 250m is too much
i only just started buying tents and learning how to grind :( i was saving up for my first fallow grind, but i dont think ill be able to get it done within that time as i do not play all day every day. i know it was an exploit, but i hate that it's being removed !!! ugh
I think people are too quick to jump on the devs because this was an unintended bug however, I think a good compromise to the tar grind would be to add a drink time for them because that would make it so it isn’t impossible to grind them
with the tigers what’s the point of having rare tigers if it’s completely impossible to get them for some people. I’ve been trying to grind tigers since this map came out and I have not gotten any rares and now they are gonna make it even harder? What’s the point that’s not fun I can barely find tigers as it is so this new update is gonna be super annoying
This just solidified that I won’t bother with the tahr anymore. This map is so thick you can’t see anything. It’s like EW wants their game to die
It shouldn't be necessary to kill thousands and thousands of animals anyway. Casual players will never see GOs.
On the flipside of the change they should come up with something different spawn wise to make up for it so normal player also have a chance to mount a GO at some point.
Agreed. I'm more than a casual player, but I play it for the "realism" and never had any interest in doing a grind. I've gotten tons of rares and diamonds just playing the traditional way and getting lucky by being persistent, and I still don't really care if I ever get a GO.
It's not like I'd hit the reserve and enact a deer genocide just to get one with the size and coloration I wanted to hang on my wall. 😂
I think this is the best way to look at it there should be no need to actually have to grind for a great one there’s so many people that just don’t want to grind cause it can be so boring and unfortunately 99% of people that don’t grind will never see a great one
We don't know the mechanics behind GO spawns, maybe it's more than a RNG.
I actually returned to the game when I found out that fast traveling didn't spook animals anymore. I had quit a long time ago when I realized the amount of effort that would go into grinding for great ones and diamonds and the fact that I would never have the time to do it. Sensor turning I've actually had quite a lot of fun, I feel that the game was a lot more balanced with this"bug". Unfortunately I think that I'm fixing it will result in me leaving once again
Agreed
I will still play but I agree the bug made it better. I thought the bug was a fix
The invisible animals when traveling to tents has been in the game since it basically
Came out so how are they only
Changing it now and saying it
Wasn’t as intended
I don’t understand the thought process that grinding and herd management is ruining the game! How is jealousy plaguing this game?! How ever many GOs IBuy has doesn’t effect ANYONE else’s game!
I have grinded for Red Deer for over 1k kills without a GOs. It is an arduous, time consuming, and quite frankly boring way to play the game! Tens of hours to set up, then who knows how many hours of shooting the same animal over and over and over. But that’s the ironic part. The grinders are the ones playing the game the most! They are the truly dedicated players putting in the hours in hopes that trophy will finally appear. So let them reap their rewards! And honestly, what percentage of the player base grinds to the point of damaging the value of a trophy?
So true
This sucks the tents were amazing the way they were, this is the only update I’ve ever been upset about
I’m only upset about the tents by the way
I agree with you!
Yep it's going to kill the game and it sucks
@Tony-vj5hj I agree! I feel like it's a lot more fun when the animals don't spook!! Plus it makes grinding for animals 10x easier.. for some
@@Sean-e9eThen what's the point of hunting? If you can find animals so easily by just fast travelling. Maybe you should check shooting games.
this change sucks. i hate running around for no reason
😂 running around you mean actually hunting
@@Pablo44528 no one forces you to place tents near zones. you can be as tryhard as you want and never place a single tent
@@philippvoid1800 that has no relation to my comment
@@Pablo44528Some people have lives
@@jider ok? The things y’all are saying have 0 relation to my comment if your saying people who actually hunt don’t have lives how come most grinders sit on the game all day teleporting tent to tent grinding?
I was about to set up a grind for tahr but due to these upcoming changes I might wait for the Tahr to be backfilled on Te Awaroa if that ever happens.
Just play offline and don’t do the update I’ve done that before when they do a pop reset
Can you do that in PlayStation?
@@ItsFatRabbit you can on PS4 i did it when they pop reset bears
@@Tyler-S13you might be able to turn off auto updates on ps
@@DukeJimbob Its not that big of a deal. I dont “need” a G1 urgently it will come eventually. I am a patient person but also we dont know 100% how the changes are going to affect the grind its all speculation to a certain degree. And even so with the cotw community someone out there will find a work around within a week and everyone will be back to their grinds in no time
“Get them now” is easy to do if you have the spare time to play as much as streamers but I have very little spare time to play but I love the game just gonna be harder I guess 🤷🏻♂️
It used to be 250 m not long ago. My grinds are set up for that so they won't change. It's the Tahr grind that's in trouble
@@LadyLegendXO i thought "get them now" referred to tigers, and as far as i'm aware, you had your tents set up right next to the lakes for tigers
The devs are definitely gonna lose a major amount of their community.
I sure hope not. That's the way it was not that long ago. Nothing really changes with the other grinds. It's just the Tahr
I disagree, it changes the way it allowed others to play the game. Now it is back to being mod friendly and streamer friendly because most players can't play for 12 hrs a day.
@@LadyLegendXO It changes everything. All my maps have 16 tents perfectly placed at roughly 200m away from every lake and now I'm going to have to spend hours trying to relocate all of those tents! This may ruin the game completely. No one wants to spend hours readjusting something they already spent hours setting up to begin with.
@@Studio215officialmoving 16 tents 50m each might take, maybe, 1 or 2 hours. I doubt you’re grinding all maps at the same time.
They made it so they render in now when you fast travel, no problem, we can adapt to that, but this next update is really going to stop that, we can't adapt to that at all, and EW has a history of not listening to the players like they say they do, so I'm hoping for once they finally do, cause trying to get a go Tahr, considering it can take up to 10k+ is going to be near impossible, and they probably won't listen to us so we gotta hope that content creators like you Lady, will for us, so you've earned a lot of peoples respect, guarantee, as you've voiced your concern for something that will not be seen if this goes through
Tahr are already hard to hunt. Why do they fix something that doesnt seem to be broken? I totally agree with you lady.
That's what I was waiting for like many years FR. Super news. Maybe I will turn back to COTW again. Sorry hunter classic my first love :(
When there was an easy way, I preferred taking it even if I didn't want to, rather than the hard way. I just had to visit the tents and guarantee find animals by the lakeside. (Now there's a 250-meter spook radius.) If there's no such convenience now, I'll have to roam the map to find animals. This makes me feel more like hunter.
7 years on and the Devs still don't understand that they are selling a single player game and not a live service. "Player choice" is somehow heresy to them and they feel they must control exactly how everyone plays the game. They constantly act like they are balancing an MMO. So stupid.
It is so ironic and stupid from the developers. So first of all they removed initial spawn GO's, so you have to grind to get a GO. Then they add a Tahr GO in the game, which is really underwhelming for me and a big part of the community, because most people were hoping for an elk , deer or another predator GO. And then they basically remove the abillity to grind for Tahr. I probably would'nt have grinded the Tahr anyway, even tough I grinded all the other GO's, but for all people how are trying to get one it is really a punch in the face. I really don't understand why I and other players participated in their community surveys. It almost seems that they are trying to loose their supportive players.
I loved the fact tents didnt spook animals anymore. It makes tent placement so much easier. Not a fan they are gonna change it to 250. Some lakes dont have good tent placement locations wothout spooking animals and it was a huge pain. I really hope they dont change it or reduce the spook radias to like 50-100
I agree with you there.They need to reduce the spook radius if they are going to do this with the tents
I play casually a few hours per week, I have my Tahr grind set up. EW really gonna hurt the game doing this. Might just stop playing the entire game because of this it will ruin the game.
fr same
big changes are comming!!! why fix it if it ain't broken, or people like the bug
I don’t think the lake method will change, I think the tent changes will affect it to a degree for tigers but if anything I think they will adjust the spawn rates of rares so takes more kills.recently had done changes to old grinds so I guess will have to change them back again which is a bummer, if they are able to change it hopefully depending on feedback of the community they change it back if enough people give feedback on it.
it is incredibly disappointing, but unfortunately it seems the developers don't pay any attention to the feedback from the community, despite the various posts they have asking for feedback etc, otherwise they would fix all the real bugs before making changes because of apparently unforeseen outcomes of changes, changes and outcomes that most of the community are happy about.
For those who grind without herd management and use all 16 tents at different zones it means a lot of walking. It was perfect having my tent beside my shooting position, quickly get my 4 wheeler right beside me and pick up my kills. plus walking to my shooting position just slows down the game. I don't have pick up tents, i cant manage my map down like the pro's. This will affect all my grinds with a lot of walking
Send your feedback to EW. I'm doing that right now!
It’s like the devs are trying to kill their game… terrible change. Just make the spook range like 50-100m these devs have always been incompetent and it’s only getting worse.
well... EW did confirm that HM and grinding was ruining they're game for people who dont grind but im with you there
@@minigatorfan not even grinding I just like putting tents close to lakes so I don’t have to run forever. Now it’s just gonna be even more of a running walking sim.
@@minigatorfan How in the world are non-grinders affected? It's not like they are forced to grind, they do whatever they want with their game, same as grinders. Your take makes no sense.
@@AaronMadridAlmeida apparently there trophies mean nothing im a grinder myself just watch kc…
That’s only a problem if you an impatient trigger happy blood thirsty grinder.
May be they can add an option "Fast travel to tent will spook animals", so people who want to play more realistically can turn on the option and people who just want to grind rare animals can turn off the option...
Realistically fast travel isnt a thing in reality :D
@@AllixCZneither are great ones (except whitetail)
From someone that has been playing this game for awhile and had also been grinding a bunch of different animals for G1s or rares. This completely changes most zones that are able to be hunted. Tahr G1s are now never going to be a thing and that's sad.
I am not going to grind Tahr after this update. Why not just make the spook radius like 75 to 100 meters? It's a terrible move by EW IMO... Everything else sounded good but this just ruins the update...
@@googoo7750 I've seen lots of comments thinking otherwise. I love the game but this just doesn't sound good to me, but at the same time I see your point.
Thank you very much for your comments to this coming update. I don´t do the kind of grind where you shoot 30 animals in less than an hour, it has - for me - nothing to do with hunting. I do however think that a 250m spook zone is too much - 150m would be more like it. IRL I can walk -against the wind - to within 150m of the animals without spooking them. Meaning that in the game I should be able arrive at my tent 150 meter from the animals without spooking them.
for tahr specifically, if they’re going to change the tent thing they need to give them drink zones. I feel like that would be a happy compromise
why 250 meters tho for a tent,.... why not just 100 or 150, [250 is really,... really,... stupid] 100m to 150 from a zone is far enough 250 is too much
The update dropped today. Now i am in the situation, Lady expressed, i am not able to drop tents in the range due to tent placement restrictions. They have to improve tent placement or else every grind is dead on 'non flat' maps.
And they changed the zeroing rotation. Now it's backwards.
Very annoying. :-(
Refuse to spend another cent if this is the way the game developers intend to push other products by ruining an old one.
After almost 5K hours in the game and my own content, I have now quit cotw because of this. EW has been making it harded for grinders for the last while. I went from looking forward to the Tahr grind to now not playing at all and uninstalled the game. One thing I loved about this game was you could play in what ever style you wanted and now they are taking some of that away from us. They say they listen to the community but unfortunately not the grinders. There was a discussion also in the official discord and it was said they said nothing about the 250 but it is there in comment. Have fun all and enjoy the game all but for me my journey with COTW is done.
The beginning of the end for EW. The map is so thick to begin with it's hard as is. Unless the tahrs get updated with drink zones sundarpartan is useless
250 meters is too far. On the new map sometimes the only place to place a tent is by the lake because it’s all hills everywhere else. Hopefully they will return sooner.
I think it's a clear demonstration that they don't like grinding despite what they keep saying. The animals not rendering in has been a thing for years and not been mentioned as a bug. Now it's a bug that we have been using as an exploit. Jaxy said the tents were working as intended soon after the release of Sudarpatan, now they're bugged. Although I am not at all pleased with the change I will find a way, for now that way will probably be to just not install the update and play in offline mode. I have one GO Tahr for now but getting tents anywhere in the Tahr area is difficult already. Now we will not only be faced with the challenge of placing them again at 250+ but also running to where you can hopefully see the tahr and that's if they are there at all. I'm already confident that most tents at that distance will not have a clear view of the zone I intend to shoot. Some will yes, but not many. I wish they'd just be honest because their intentions toward the grinders are clear yet they keep saying otherwise.
I'm hoping that they will take the community's response into account and maybe make the spook distance less because yes, the tahr grind will be next to impossible after the update! My other grinds are fine. Not worried about them. And I don't have a GO Tahr yet. I'm at 2400 kills and grinding hard! Gotta get one soon! Thanks Tank!
I left the game when they changed the spook radius to 270m years ago, came back for Australia but just couldn’t stick around.
Since the tent update, I’ve played every day and even set up a euro bison grind on hirsch which I wouldn’t have even considered if it wasn’t for the tent change.
Shocking decision to revert it or ‘fix’ it
I literally did the exact same thing and have a euro bison grind set up 😂
Hi lady I’m mad about this update too I’m fallow grinding and have like three tents within 250m. But I got my first GO it’s a fallow
Congrats! 💗
These kinds of changes are why I'm glad I can mod my maps. What I find fun and enjoyable and what the devs find fun and enjoyable are just so wildly different in some respects.
One lucky dude
only wish more mods were available, and that updates didn't break them
First tiger I ever found was an albino so I am indeed so very happy they are fixing that because I was heartbroken to find out it was just orange. I started my tiger rare grind today on those three lakes because of this and I got a White Tiger for my first tiger starting the grind. Thank you so much Lady for your vids and your fantastic info, you have helped me out so so much!
I feel like the tar grind. I’m not gonna do anymore just because of that it just feels like a waste of energy.
You're better off grinding something else
I'm a casual player and already don't have time to grind usually although I'm trying my best with the time that I have. Changes making it even more difficult just sounds heartbreaking.
Big changes are coming for sure, I’m new to the game (50ish hours in and haven’t even thought to try taking on a grind) but seeing so much of the community up in arms about this change definitely has me concerned for the future. I hope the devs listen to everyone’s feedback because they do seem to care about their community more than most, but only time will tell.
I hope so too!
I suppose when you fast travel, you are running/walking to the tent off screen. So animals will spook.
Actually how animals didn't render next to your tent, used to be useful for me personally. You could kill other things in the distance. Move towards them, harvest and the animals that are next to your tent, render in, you can kill them next.
Not sure what to think about the new spook radius though. Have to see how it works in two weeks time. Great video again Lady. Thank you for the update on this ❤️
Not happy about the tent change. Most of my best Tahr zones will be impossible to use. Either there will be nowhere to set a tent down 250 meters away, or it'll be impossible to sneak up on them through the long vegetation and steep terrain without spooking them. I stopped playing the game for over a year as it just got a bit boring. Came back for the Tahr grind as it was something a bit different and more challenging to attempt and I've been having a lot of fun with it. Not sure if I'll still keep playing after this change, at least not as much as I am right now.
I'm really sorry to hear that. I'm loving the Tahr grind too. So much for challenging makes it so much fun!
@@LadyLegendXO I hope they at least make some kind of change with the tahr to make it possible to keep grinding them. Either give them a drink zone or a caller. Otherwise I don't know how anyone is going to get a great one!
I thought the change to tents to not spook was an intended change when it happened?
Me too, was a lot of fun, this is very disappointing news
So upset bought the game with last sale in EU, figured it out fast, now i´m on my red deer grind still need more tents and now they change it. WTF game is dead for me when update comes. they should fix UI instead. shop and camp is so painfull.
I think that they are going to make people not want to play on this map with this update no one wants to hunt an impossible map it takes the fun out of it completely
Decissions made by the devs make no sense:
So they dont want us to grind Tahr, but at the same time they give us 7 new fur types.
Its like bruh you know how many hours does a grind take?
Basically they want us to spawn it naturally, nobody is gonna sit and wait till it appears naturally and even with only an unique map and no drink time.
For me its gonna be like: This great one doesnt exist 😂
Well hunting in real life you have to work and therefore hunting in the game you should have to work to
I honestly have no idea what they are thinking with the tahr great ones. Its taking up to 2000 kills for most people to spawn their first GO tahr, that is literally days of grinding. Now having to run an extra 200 meters or whatever to every spawn means no casual player will ever get a GO tahr.
@@QUADRIDER400-l2i hunting in real life pfffff, man this is a Game where the developers crossed the line of realistic hunting experience a long time ago.
Its really fun to see the people complaining about grinding (saying this is a way easier to get trophies) when almost all of them do the same doing map hopping (going on a new fresh map only to check drink zones its not realistic tho).
This community is really killing the game!
@Ltz400boyz Hunting in real life is vastly different my dude
@@QUADRIDER400-l2ithe “real life” argument went out the window the moment they added endangered species
Big changes are coming!!!
I didn't set up any grinds since I'm new to the game so this doesn't affect me much, but it's nice to keep in mind
I’m very upset I just setup a wild yak grind using your guide and a tiger guide and I was about to setup a fallow grind and for once I was having fun grinding in my openion it’s a bad move on there part
I was actually gonna try and do my first go grind now that I didn't have to worry about figuring out tent placement which was the worst part of setting up for me...guess that's down the drain lolll
I don't understand why they would change the tent thing, thats not good imo :(
I definitely will not do a Tahr grind thats a fact.
I belive its ok that there will be some restrictions on the Tigers, but i am very curious to see what it will be :)
Yayyyy! Lady posted once again! 😂
Yayyyy!
i really hope they fix the goats in this update at least. they have such an awful habit of walking through their need zones, then they just keep walking off into the distance and never actually settle. or even fix how animals will allegedly be "drinking" 200m away from their original need zone after being spooked, and never return 🙄 thank you for keeping us updated, though, lady! I've been getting back into your videos a lot lately and even showed them to my friend!!
Im kinda glad about the tiger thing,it pretty much felt like an exploit and made tiger rares and dimes not rare at all
I just started playing less than a month ago and honestly your videos on grinding were the catalyst that got me to buy the game. Just started my first grind for whitetail like 5 days ago. It's disheartening that I came in and they're making this kind of change. I bought the game and all the dlcs and was somewhat regretting that decision after hearing this news. But I'm gonna play it by ear and see what happens I guess. Keep up the great work Lady. 😊
It used to be 250 m not that long ago. So it's just going back to the way it was and I wouldn't care except for the Tahr grind. I was having so much fun!
Definitely not looking forward to this change. I’ve been grinding to get at least 1 of each diamond on the new map (have 5 left) and this is a huge bummer.
I predict that Sundar will drop significantly down the most played map list.
250m is a bit ridiculous 100m-150m would be totally acceptable but at 250m, you won't be able to see most of your zones.
Out of every bug they could fix. Like birds not fleeing, crashing, animals that are frozen in place, invisible trees, animals not being able to be claimed, the bear glitches, apparently moose glitches now, some animals going the speed of sound like foxes and pigs, dogs sometimes completely stop working and stand idle, and ESPECIALLY modded and hacked servers EW chooses an "exploit" that has done nothing wrong but bring in new and old players who just want to play the game. It is ridiculous that there 2024 trailer states "to play the game your way" but here they are limiting how we play. The new spook system is already painful, this may make me play way of hunter even more!
..blowing into the bell of a duck call 🥴
God. I was just about to leave a comment about how the new map had me playing without cheats or mods for the first time in a while and then they do this? Very frustrating. I despise this sort of update in games, stuff that the players actively don’t want
Stupid decision, that tend "glitch" made playing so much more fun.
I've been playing every day for the last few weeks because you could easily start a fun grind on every map with every type of animal.
When the update comes you will only be able to grind again on Te Awaroa, in the north of Revontuli and on Cuatro.
I don't know what that's about, most players don't grind anyway and those who do had a lot more fun.
I am so in love with the tiger grind and i am doing a 4 lake method and it is going so well and i am getting almost too many diamonds but only 1 rare in 121 kills and was hoping to get more but they deciced to ruin it all😢 So what if we all quit playing after the update so then they have to make it the way it was
Game was barely hangin on this update will be the nail in the coffin. I hate when others try to make me play the game the way they like to play
I feel that the upcoming change isn't actually benefitting the game at all, no one was being disadvantaged by it being the way it is now.
It honestly felt like when they "fixed" the render distance it was with the goal of making the tahr grind do able. I'm having so much fun on the tahr using different weapons just enjoying the challenge. Fingers crossed it the community finds some workable solutions to keeping the Tahr GO alive
All my tents localized 200+ meter away from zones So I'm gonna change all 15 tent per 15 map ? I don't like recent changes (like Bear's drinking time) ... Makes the game even more frustrating.
this is going to mess up the red deer on te awora for me i won’t even try after this anymore
The land is flat there, compared to the new map. You can set up 250 m away and shoot in. It wouldn't be hard to do. You can do it!
The tent thing won’t effect much for my thar grind because i’ve just been starting at the peak of the top right mountain and running down one line of zones, then going to the top left of the top right zone and hunting back to the other tent. takes more time but it allows me to hunt snow leopards too!
At this point the way they keep screwing with grinders I wish I could get my money back
I think 250m fast travel spook is a little overkill. If they reduced it to say 150m then I don't think there would be nearly as much vitriol and complaining as there is right now.
Like, if they HAVE to reintroduce fast travel spook then I'd like it if it would be under 200m, preferably 150 because 250m is excessive
This change sucks. I've been enjoying the game so much more recently since I don't have to run 200 meters to find animals in the zone I want to find.
I personally don’t have a problem with this update because I like how it’s more “realistic” but I definitely understand why people are upset about it. Personally, I think they should be focusing more on updating animal models (more fur colors/rares and variety of those furs, more variety in antlers/horns, and working on improving overall look of animal models). I personally don’t like the look of male lions in the game because the mane does not look good to me.
I remember when someone said the devs only update the game to benefit the grinders …
the whole thing with the deer not rendering in is in my opinion buggy and should be fixed..
but why should fast traveling to a tent spook animals? i think thats ridiculous.. and its just a waste of the players time. if i want to set up on some herd i want to think about where i want to be in terms of seeing the herd as best i can. and 250 meters aint happening in sundarpatan.
The tahr grind will probably be spawning at one of outposts on top of the mountain, then walking the ridgeline while shooting down the mountain at any tahr you see
With the latest update they said it made animals get closer to the water when drinking but ive noticed quite the opposite on my Revontuli white tail grind. Animals take much longer to get into zones and half the time they are drinking 30 feet from the water in the woods. They use the same zone but they drink in different spots than they once did. I also just got finished adjusting all my tents and tripods so i have good lines of sight but now im going to have to move everything AGAIN. I dont get it. Why not do bug fixes instead of changing game mechanics?
So yeah, Im definitely not doing a Tahr grind.
I’ve been doing the fallow grind a lot and all my tents are 250 m plus so I think I should be good on that grind
I have in real life set up a dome tent and started cooking my evening meal all the while a doe and her two fawns fed and played within a hundred yards and were not spooked not even a little bit so it "IS" possible to put up a tent without spooking wildlife ....so why does there need to be a spook zone at all ?
Because it's makes the game so easy. Just fast travel and guarantee shoot 3 animals in a few seconds near the lake xd. Trophy animals should be valuable. Miss the OG hunting style.
@@Ada-xo3dy Same here. If there's no sport in it, then it's unfair and pointless, as far as I'm concerned.
I hunt for the conservation department for culling overpopulated and ill populations, so we do "cheat" (I bow hunt from a baited tree stand so there is no gunfire or flying bullets, and all my missed shots go into the ground) for the sake of efficacy and safety. But that's *NOT* trophy hunting, it's population control.
There should be challenge and skill involved in hunting solely for pleasure.
No rendering animals change makes sense but how does a tent scare off animals it makes no sound
I'm actually happy with the changes. The game has been far too skewed towards grinding. Great ones weren't supposed to be something that everyone would get. The only thing is that I'd like to see them make it easier to place tents on hills or near vegetation. But I'm on board with any changes that encourage actual hunting and not just making the game a bunch of shooting galleries.
I always played with placing the tents at 250m and I didn't mind, although I would prefer it to be less distance (100-150m). But come on, I always played with the 250m distance and so well. Of course, I hate doing routines for GO, I find them boring, they should appear differently. Greetings from Spain.
Everybody liked this, no clue why they're removing it
Because like 1-2 salty content creators don’t want casual players to get trophies as it gives them less content so they cried and made the devs think it was a big deal even though the majority of players like it
@@bigfishinlittlebritain9808 who?
This tent update is so silly. Instead of continueing my tahr grind i think ill play a different game for a while.
It seems like EA is looking to make things more challenging for grinders. After the last update, black bears do not stand up twice after being alarmed. There are other small things that seem to indicate that they are intentionally making it more difficult for grinders.
Yeah this kind of sucks, I understand the realism balance they are aiming for but at the end of the day it's a game and this made it way more enjoyable. Some bugs should be features
Big changes are coming. What day are you planning for the co-op hunt?
this really sucks they should at least have reduced the spook to like 180 meters
I'm working on my 4th great one follow deer. I'm at 214 kills and have 8 to 10 diamonds on map. So hoping great one will show soon
I just started my first fallow grind and I'm set up 100-150yd on almost all of them. Now I'm ripped between if I should kick it into overdrive, or just get used to the 250m (273yd) range before it happens
Grind hard as hell for the next two weeks man you got it. Even if there's no great one, you'll still have progress if you're doing herd management. You'll probably get a few diamonds by then too, good luck!
I think it should be like 50m bc like it’s a tent it’s not as loud as an atv and a rifle it’s just a zipper
I just got back into playing and the tent-travel made the game enjoyable again. To bad
You should make a video on how to grind whitetail now with the new update! I’m struggling!
Bro have the devs ever heard of a community vote like cmon guys the game is going to be ruined
Lol, it's literally returning to how it was 2 months ago.. We had the intended spook distance for the last 6 and a half years..
Sorry if this has been answered already, but will the new spook mechanic also apply to normal outpost fast-traveling?
Yeah that seriously blows. Why tease us with that change in the first place.
Hope the Dev's are reading the comments.
Too bad for the poor bastards that struggle to get more than 10 hours a week in game. Or haven't had the chance to shoot their 2000-3000 tigers yet.
Everything is just a bloody slog.
Spent hours and hours and $100k trying to find all the tiger zones and could only find 11/16
We'll see how it pans out. The community is not happy so Jaxy said that they'd take the community response into account. Maybe they'll change it. I think 250m is too much
@@LadyLegendXO they clearly don't listen to the community
So pretty much were going back to og hunting? Or is it different from before the new tent radius?
i only just started buying tents and learning how to grind :( i was saving up for my first fallow grind, but i dont think ill be able to get it done within that time as i do not play all day every day. i know it was an exploit, but i hate that it's being removed !!! ugh
Nice makes alot of sense . Can't wait for the changes
I think people are too quick to jump on the devs because this was an unintended bug however, I think a good compromise to the tar grind would be to add a drink time for them because that would make it so it isn’t impossible to grind them
Its sucks because before the update was better
with the tigers what’s the point of having rare tigers if it’s completely impossible to get them for some people. I’ve been trying to grind tigers since this map came out and I have not gotten any rares and now they are gonna make it even harder? What’s the point that’s not fun I can barely find tigers as it is so this new update is gonna be super annoying