You're doing the project I've wanted to do since the early '80s. I own the '77 Granada Sport Coupe, 302/4 speed, that I bought brand new in July of '77. She's solid, but very tired, and has been in the garage under cover for... a long time. It's full of NOS parts I've been stockpiling for 20 years or so. I retire in the spring and I think the project's going to get rolling. Thanks for the extra motivation.
I’ve always had a soft spot for the 77 2-door, 302/4 speed Granada. My best friend in high school had one in around 1980. What a great car that was. The only customization he made on it was dual exhaust. I’ve always been a GM/Chevy guy but I’d get one of those rare 2 door 4 speed cars in a second, if I could find one. Good luck with your project.
Parents gave me a two door 75 Granada, 302 three speed manual, silver with high back buckets and red interior. Added an Edelbrock manifold with four barrel Holley, Cherry bombs, air shocks and deep dish mags. I was hot stuff in high school! 😂
I enjoy seeing the less edited scenes of them brainstorming and when things don't go perfectly. When things are perfectly edited and things magically always work out it takes away from the realness of it all. At the end of the day, it's an engine building show and anyone in the buisness will tell you that things never go magically perfect. Thanks for putting these shows out for us to enjoy 🍻
I had a 77 mercury monarch (same car, different badge.) That thing was a nice driver, I built the engine up a bit with a low mile block, comp cams magnum 270 cam, 351w heads (72) with basic port matching and the egr hump ground out, backed with a c4 that I'd built myself (nothing special, but stage 2 shift kit.) Probably still only made around 200-250hp, but for a first car and something I'd done by myself on a budget, nothing to be ashamed of (mid-90's build up.) Side note - dumping the exhaust just in front of the wheels with a slightly down turned tip made that thing a great snow thrower in winter! 😂
Had a 75' Granada 2 door, 302, 3 speed manual factory floor shift. Used headers for a 72' mustang. Had to do some cut and weld adjustment on the clutch linkage. Other than that they fit without any clearance issues. Lincoln Versailles 9" with disk brakes is a direct replacement. Fun car. Also had a 82' Granada 4 door, 2.3 factory propane only fueled car, also a neat car.
What a blast from the past. My first car was a 1975 four door Granada in white. I built the 302 that was factory and increased the compression, a performance cam and a Holly 600 carb. I estimate 300ish hp, although I never had it on the dyno. I also had the C4 gone through with a shift kit and stall converter. This was back in 1983. I had Hooker headers that dropped right in. Not surprising there's difficulty in finding performance parts for this car now. I seemed to be a little easier back in the day. I took it to the High School Drags at Bandimere Speedway.
Back in the early 80's, we built a 1979 Mercury Monarch (same car as the Grenada) with a 351w with ported (by me) heads, a Streetmaster (single plane) intake and an "RV cam". I was the only Ford guy in my group of friends who ALL owned SBC powered rides. Not one of them wanted to race me in my Ford, especially after riding in it. Lol. Btw, the easiest headers we found were from an early 70's Torino with the 351w. They needed a ding here and there but they fit great. Even 60's Fairlane headers would have worked.
I found in my Vette that the radiator cooler was actually heating the trans fluid to near the coolant temp I bypassed the entire radiator and only used a large trans cooler and it brought the temp down by 50 degrees. Trans is very happy now!
My dad used to fix used cars and sell them. He had one of these Granada's in the mid 80s and added some upgrades to make it faster. He always wanted to do something like this but could never afford it. Its cool to see what he could have had.
The Lincoln Versailles could be ordered with the 351w and rear disc brakes. That could have been a real monster, since those parts were "dime-a-dozen" back then.
One of my ex-girlfriends had a Granada four-door dark green thing would scream had a 302 in it but the way you guys are building this 347 very nice can't wait to see how it runs and how it sounds very nice job! keep up the good work guys.! Chicago Granada.....
I am absolutely loving the Granada videos, I too have a 1977 Granada, 302, I have the 4-speed manual version, my build is going to be a boss 302 clone with cleavor heads, and I have to fix some floorboards in mine, but I love these cars
Dam dudes, My first car I got in 1986 was a 79 Granada with the 250 straight 6. gutless, but so so reliable. I drove that for over 200k And lets face it, being in my teens, I beat the hell out of the car.
I had a white 351 Ghia with a red interior. The open differential was fantastic for destroying tires. I always thought the Granada's were overlooked as hot rod potential.
To me they've always reminded me of mid/late 60s Fairlanes lookswise, and under the sheetmetal they pretty much ARE Fairlanes. :) I agree - a lot of overlooked potential.
I couldnt get long tube headers to fit it so i put shorty headers and slide out cut outs on it for racing. It was quiet until you opened the cutoffs. Then you could hear it a mile away. It was pretty quick. It would run high 10's in the quarter naturally aspirated. I probably could have put it on nitrous and low 10's to high 9's. It had a c4 with shift kit and a 3000 stahl with a 373 posi in 9 inch ford rearend. On 60 series rubber
Many wonderful WTF moments will follow the return of this Granada (Grenada) to the streets. As far as performance potential in an economy offering, I believe the Ford Fairmont was available with a 302 in "78. It weighed less than 3,000 lbs and the most powerful V8 version made 139 hp. This 530 hp 302 and performance suspension along with considerable body bracing could result in a stunning Q ship. 5.7 lbs/hp would provide some eye opening launch potential
Brings back memories!!!!! My dad in the late 70's bought a 4 dr. used 78 Granada 302 C4, drove me around everywhere. In the mid 80's got myself a 2 dr. 78 G with 250 6cyl. Junked it when in 88 or 89 came across another 2 dr. 78 with 302 V8 with bad lifters that I bought for $50 bucks. Pulled the motor did a mild rebuild with decent cam, Hedman LT headers and alum. d/plane intake manifold. That car was fun!!!!! Junked that car in early 90's and left the Granada scene till almost in the year 2000 a widow sold me her late husband's 78 Granada for $1. Also a 2 door but back to 250 cid 6. Drove that car for a few years till a co-worker 1 day knew of a 77 Granada with a 351W/ pan fill C4. I bought that car as a parts car to do a swap into my $1 car. 351W ran ok but not great but it let me drop it in and get things working with fitting my mod parts. Hooker 6208 headers fit with slight firewall denting on pass. side. Rebuilt the C4 and added "H" servo, strip valve body, adj. modulator, 3000 stall. B&M quicksilver shifter replaced the column shift. After a few months of running this setup with the stock 351W I pulled out the engine during the winter months and sent it to an engine shop to turn it into a 408W stroker. Scat crank, eagle H beam rods, forged pistons, Crower solid flat tappet cam, E/brock V Jr. alum heads, 1.7 ratio roller rockers, Air gap manifold with 950 cfm Holley carb. That engine ran great!!!!! Car was still a bit rough body wise but totally fit into the sleeper model (except for the idle and exhaust noise). Had to notch the trans cross member to fit the 3" exhaust underneath through dynomax mufflers and dumps at the rear end. Got the suspension fixed up a bit so while handling wasn't great in corners went great in a straight line (freaked out a Viper on a straightaway on a highway roll). A few years of running that car and the body got REALLY tired so it was time to move on, sold the complete engine/trans combo to a guy that put it into his Mustang and got word from him shortly after he got it in his car it ran low 10's. That 408W worked!!!!! Looking forward to the rest of the series, sorry for the length of this comment.
Great job fellas. You REALLY do good work :) I worked in the Motor Industry for 45+ years and watching all the mechanics was nothing compared to what you fellas do, better than those mechs.
Man, what a time warp! A '77 Granada is exactly what I drove in high school in the late 80's. Passed on to me from grandpa and going to my uncle's body shop and learning the bodywork trade. I painted it a candy mettalic blue with flakes just because.....good times!
I finally got some time to take a break and start watching the sleeper build. This thing is awesome! I really enjoyed finally getting to meet y'all and talk for a bit in Bowling green. I hope you found that 10mm socket under the passenger seat and that it goes to good use :) Keep kickin ass my dudes!
Can't wait to see this build finished... !!! I used to own a 2 door silver and maroon 1975 Ford Granada with the old 250 straight 6 engine and I drove the wheels off of that car when I was 16 years old lol It was my first car. I absolutely went everywhere in that car and made a lot of memories with that car in my teen years. I always wanted to hop-up that car and replace the 6 with a hopped up V-8 just like you're doing right here. Love this :-) ❤
Dudes! I traded a beater truck for a decent ‘76 Grey Granny in 1990. It did not like to be left out in the rain & would stall & die regularly if driven in wet conditions. I was too poor to score anything else so I kept swapping out the ignition box modules (red tab) & would dry them out between by baking them in the oven for 30 minutes @lowest temp setting. That beast would fire right up & go again until it rained again. Tough gig in Portland OR. Drove it for 5 years. Left it on a side street with “Free & good luck” sign on the dash & keys in it. Good times!
This is what hot rodding is all about. Build the engine, do what it takes to make it fit, and adapt related components as needed. Looks stock but sounds like a beast, have fun and be different.
I love Mike Galley when he was the on front cameras but you can't denied how well Pat do it as well. You lost big chunk of weight, congrats and keep it doing it
Nice! I had a 76 Granada built the 302, limited slip 9 inch 3.55 gears put it on a diet. Peps found it hard to keep laughing when their jaws hit the ground!
This is funny, many times I have heard these guys say that this "street engine" will run just fine on the street. Are they trying to convince us the listeners or themselves? With enough torque converter, rear gear. and a engine vacuum reservoir, it should be tolerable. Taking it to the limit, fun video!
Years ago I found a 72 Grenada with a 351c 2v and long tube headers stuffed in. Had to pull the motor to change the plugs. I yanked the motor and dropped it into my '67 Mustang coupe. Good times, and this is a great build.
First year for Granada was 1975 to 1980 then went to fox chassis for 81-82. They also never had Cleveland engines in them from factory only 200-250 cid 6 cyl, 302 V8 and 351W up to 1977 model year.
I know Grenadas never came with Clevelands. Iirc, 351c's were sold between '70 and '73 so none would have been around for a factory Grenada install. Thinking back on it more now brings back more details. That motor was from a '72 something. I honestly forget the year of the Grenada, thinking now it might have been a '76 (doesnt matter any more) but it had been made into a sleeper by the previous owner with that motor swap. I bought it in San Fran in 2000 and swapped out the tired 289 4bbl for the 351. Was stationed in Nor Cal at the time, took it with me to Connecticut when I transferred. I sold my Mustang in 2003 up there. And thank you for the correction. Helps to jog the memory and get details right.
Haha!! Maybe a little late. I just used the stock shorty headers from the '85 5.0 Mustang. With a little modification I used the exhaust from the Mustang too.
My father (and later my brother) had a '77 Granada with a factory 302 in it. Of course it was a down tuned smog motor but it was still a mid sized car with a 5L. It didn't exactly suck!
Love this build!! I had a triple dark blue 77 mercury monarch with the inline 6 in the early 90’s. Mint condition but totally anemic. Didn’t have the money but wanted to swap a mild 302 in
Man I am loving this build. Not just bc it’s a ford but painting the motor to look junky and all is awesome. I have to say I cringed when you tossed the flex fan on there though lol
my first "road car" was a 77 merc monarch, i bought it for 500 with 70000 miles and it was in perfect cond besides a bad motor, i taught myself how to swap the motor, i no longer have it but i know who does and it currently has a built 351c in it it'll pull a wheel now.
Man I'm jealous. My mom had a baby blue 4 door Granada that she gave to my sister when she was down and out and I drove it 1,100+ miles to put it in her driveway and I'm tellen ya that little luxury car was built like a tank and was tight with Zero rattle's. It had seems like a 250 six in it and after that trip I would dream about having one with a 300 six in it then I met a young couple with a 2 door and I think a 302 and the husband would go through the neighborhood burning the tires and driving crazy, and then one day I heard he was in jail and on his way to the pen. 😵 I know TMI😆 Those are good cars and my sister's bosses son thought it was a Lincoln.😆
Wanting to build a sleeper so bad, but right now is not the time. You guys are not helping with the patience part of my build. Looks like fun. Really ready to see it drive!
I have an ‘80 Granada and have been through the same process. Hooker 6901 headers fit for me with only slight denting of the firewall on the driver’s side 👍
When I was stationed in the Philippines in '75 to'77 my next door neighbor who was also in the USN had a Grenada. Don't know what year. He gave me many a ride to work. I always thought these Granada's were very smooth and comfortable. But vastly under-powered. I think his car was a 6 cyl...not much get up and go. Nice project!
Good to see another vid from the pocket pen father and son team, doing old school stuff. Loving the show casing of America quality products on the show as well. Go the "power enhancing chemicals", my favourite kind. Really looking forward to seeing how the Granada gets down the strip with a 100 or more shot, ricers beware of American muscle.
Same. Tbey are probably chesp to buy. The Cordoba came with a 400 big block, IIRC. Hop that up and it would very comfortable as well as reasonably quick.
That was great! Cousin next door had a Silver/Red 77 Granada 2dr. Looking forward to see it on road and on chassis dyno numbers. My guess close to 100 hp loss.
@@randysrestoration What they do, put a 2" single exhaust?? Lol.. That's crazy.. I put high flow cats on my P71 n electric exhaust cutouts to stock exhaust, only lose 12rwhp when closed..
My first car was a '77 Mercury Monarch, the Granada's sister car. 302 Auto with a 2.47 rear gear. What a dog! I do recall it had a LOT of chassis components in common with the '69-70 Mustang. I wonder if those headers would't be a better fit than Maverick?
In the late 70s late night Tv programming was stacked with a choice of private detective shows to sift through . If your wanting to see some funny wheeled action of the Grenada’s chase scenes you’ll just nee to search Barnaby Jones , a certain thrill ride ! 80 hp beast
So, almost 100HP per liter without forced induction or exotic fuel injection, that's good. Modifying headers without causing flow problems, that's also good. I love watching people who know what they're doing it well! The only question I'm asking myself is what is this super sleeper going to drive like.
My best friends mom drove a white Granada. I didn't know you could make a V8 so weak kneed! I'm sure the true 7.5 compression ratio and single exhaust under 2 inches did a lot to neuter it.
I wanted one of those cars with a 460 , with the problems they had with the headers, even with stock exhaust manifolds, the 460 would require a lot of cutting.
I see duration on your cam, lobe separation and centerline. BUT what lift? I am just comparing it to a 347 stroker I built and wishing I had mine on a dyno. Eagle stroker kit, girdled, hi volume pump. GT40x heads with a mass amount of porting and time on the flow bench. Machined for Manley dual springs. 1.7 roller rockers. 236/244 dur.@ .050 Lift 570/565 Comp Cams grind 506000. Weinland tunnel ram with Holley 600cfm carbs. Summit billet distributer/ MSD. It is in a 79 Fox body , narrowed 9" 4.11 gears. C-4 TCI converter. I drool watching you tune on the dyno. I suspect it is in the 500 HP range but we all want to have it on paper. I am convinced that the tunnel ram will deliver with this setup.
That car reminds me of my old 4 door mercury monarch. It was a very nice car it had a console amd leather electric seats and leather interior. I nicknamed it my baby Lincoln. It was a very nice car compared to a old granada. But when i got it it was in my in laws family since it was brand new. The motor had over 200k miles on it when i got it. So i killed that motor and found a 1969 ford 302 amd i did a bunch of hp upgrades and it ended up at just under 500 hp at the rear wheels. It was a fast car. The only thing that beat me was a 77 trans am with a big block and nitrous . He only beat me by half a car. I outran vettes, camaroes , and mustangs on regular basis. Had lots of fun in that car. It was very quiet and you couldnt tell what it had under the hood until i pulled open the headers plates and then whoever i was racing knew there was about to be a heck of a race
The orig. motor had flat tops yall could have put the heads and cam into it ? on a 78 302 heads they are low compression ? putting the parts you picked would have pep up the old motor .
You're doing the project I've wanted to do since the early '80s. I own the '77 Granada Sport Coupe, 302/4 speed, that I bought brand new in July of '77. She's solid, but very tired, and has been in the garage under cover for... a long time. It's full of NOS parts I've been stockpiling for 20 years or so. I retire in the spring and I think the project's going to get rolling. Thanks for the extra motivation.
Best wishes on both the retirement and the build!
I’ve always had a soft spot for the 77 2-door, 302/4 speed Granada. My best friend in high school had one in around 1980. What a great car that was. The only customization he made on it was dual exhaust. I’ve always been a GM/Chevy guy but I’d get one of those rare 2 door 4 speed cars in a second, if I could find one. Good luck with your project.
@@andrewwasson6153 ...in high school (early 80's) had a girlfriend with a '77 all white, she felt like a queen driving it.
Nothing to it but to do it . Happy retirement
I like the pre-facelift "round headlamp" Granadas
If you'd asked me 15 years ago what I thought of a Grenada, I'd have laughed. Today, as a wiser man, I'm loving that thing. Great find y'all!
Many years ago some friends dropped a 351 Cleveland in a Granada, it surprised a few street warriors...
Parents gave me a two door 75 Granada, 302 three speed manual, silver with high back buckets and red interior. Added an Edelbrock manifold with four barrel Holley, Cherry bombs, air shocks and deep dish mags. I was hot stuff in high school! 😂
Ha ha. Pat picked up a stick to point at something like the professor he is. I love watching anything with a Ford 347.
Headers are ALWAYS, a pain in the ass, even if they are "made" for your application!!!
I enjoy seeing the less edited scenes of them brainstorming and when things don't go perfectly. When things are perfectly edited and things magically always work out it takes away from the realness of it all. At the end of the day, it's an engine building show and anyone in the buisness will tell you that things never go magically perfect. Thanks for putting these shows out for us to enjoy 🍻
I had a 77 mercury monarch (same car, different badge.) That thing was a nice driver, I built the engine up a bit with a low mile block, comp cams magnum 270 cam, 351w heads (72) with basic port matching and the egr hump ground out, backed with a c4 that I'd built myself (nothing special, but stage 2 shift kit.)
Probably still only made around 200-250hp, but for a first car and something I'd done by myself on a budget, nothing to be ashamed of (mid-90's build up.)
Side note - dumping the exhaust just in front of the wheels with a slightly down turned tip made that thing a great snow thrower in winter! 😂
Sounds like a perfect build for the time.
Had a 75' Granada 2 door, 302, 3 speed manual factory floor shift. Used headers for a 72' mustang. Had to do some cut and weld adjustment on the clutch linkage. Other than that they fit without any clearance issues. Lincoln Versailles 9" with disk brakes is a direct replacement. Fun car. Also had a 82' Granada 4 door, 2.3 factory propane only fueled car, also a neat car.
What a blast from the past. My first car was a 1975 four door Granada in white. I built the 302 that was factory and increased the compression, a performance cam and a Holly 600 carb. I estimate 300ish hp, although I never had it on the dyno. I also had the C4 gone through with a shift kit and stall converter. This was back in 1983. I had Hooker headers that dropped right in. Not surprising there's difficulty in finding performance parts for this car now. I seemed to be a little easier back in the day. I took it to the High School Drags at Bandimere Speedway.
You know you're an engine builder when you use phrases like "you missed the hood ornament by .030". 😆
“Gapping the hood ornament!”
The " Vista Orange " is what sold me. It couldn't be the awesome power y'all are building. 😅
Country mile by CNC standards.
😂😂gotta be technical 😅
@@badchad911 Yep, I would kill to have .030 tolerance instead of .0005 on some of the stuff we do. We sometimes get .003 and get all excited.
Back in the early 80's, we built a 1979 Mercury Monarch (same car as the Grenada) with a 351w with ported (by me) heads, a Streetmaster (single plane) intake and an "RV cam". I was the only Ford guy in my group of friends who ALL owned SBC powered rides. Not one of them wanted to race me in my Ford, especially after riding in it. Lol.
Btw, the easiest headers we found were from an early 70's Torino with the 351w. They needed a ding here and there but they fit great. Even 60's Fairlane headers would have worked.
I found in my Vette that the radiator cooler was actually heating the trans fluid to near the coolant temp I bypassed the entire radiator and only used a large trans cooler and it brought the temp down by 50 degrees. Trans is very happy now!
My dad used to fix used cars and sell them. He had one of these Granada's in the mid 80s and added some upgrades to make it faster. He always wanted to do something like this but could never afford it. Its cool to see what he could have had.
The Lincoln Versailles could be ordered with the 351w and rear disc brakes. That could have been a real monster, since those parts were "dime-a-dozen" back then.
I had a 78 granada two door with manual shift, steering with a warmed up 70 warmed up 302. Won a lot of races with.
One of my ex-girlfriends had a Granada four-door dark green thing would scream had a 302 in it but the way you guys are building this 347 very nice can't wait to see how it runs and how it sounds very nice job! keep up the good work guys.! Chicago Granada.....
I am absolutely loving the Granada videos, I too have a 1977 Granada, 302, I have the 4-speed manual version, my build is going to be a boss 302 clone with cleavor heads, and I have to fix some floorboards in mine, but I love these cars
Dam dudes, My first car I got in 1986 was a 79 Granada with the 250 straight 6. gutless, but so so reliable. I drove that for over 200k And lets face it, being in my teens, I beat the hell out of the car.
One of the absolute best "SLEEPERS" y'all have built!
Now all it needs is a better Suspension and Upgraded Brakes...
yeah...lincoln versaille brake and suspension swap in the works??
I heard that mustang fox body stuff bolts right on.
Love this build! I've always wanted to do something like this with an old square body Crown Vic or Town Car. Sleepers rule!
The Granada is my favorite 70s car and this build is exactly what I want in mine
lol
This car is going to be awesome!
I would love to see you guys take it to the strip and see what kind of times it can lay down.
Great series!
Cool build because it's not the same old thing you see every day!
Granada was a good car you cant beat the ever reliable 302/C-4 Combination......We had a 1977 and my Folks sold it around 2000 that car ran forever.
I had a white 351 Ghia with a red interior. The open differential was fantastic for destroying tires. I always thought the Granada's were overlooked as hot rod potential.
To me they've always reminded me of mid/late 60s Fairlanes lookswise, and under the sheetmetal they pretty much ARE Fairlanes. :) I agree - a lot of overlooked potential.
Can't wait to see this beauty on the road!👍🇺🇸💪
My brother had a 77 Mercury Monarch with and we put a 351 Windsor in a m building and it was really fast love the video man keep up the good work
I couldnt get long tube headers to fit it so i put shorty headers and slide out cut outs on it for racing. It was quiet until you opened the cutoffs. Then you could hear it a mile away. It was pretty quick. It would run high 10's in the quarter naturally aspirated. I probably could have put it on nitrous and low 10's to high 9's. It had a c4 with shift kit and a 3000 stahl with a 373 posi in 9 inch ford rearend. On 60 series rubber
I had a 1975 Granada, 6 inline and seeing this one brings memories. Can't wait to see it finish.
Many wonderful WTF moments will follow the return of this Granada (Grenada) to the streets.
As far as performance potential in an economy offering, I believe the Ford Fairmont was available with a 302 in "78. It weighed less than 3,000 lbs and the most powerful V8 version made 139 hp. This 530 hp 302 and performance suspension along with considerable body bracing could result in a stunning Q ship. 5.7 lbs/hp would provide some eye opening launch potential
OK you made me laugh when you said precisely massaged ! Bfh works! Lol😂❤
Brings back memories!!!!! My dad in the late 70's bought a 4 dr. used 78 Granada 302 C4, drove me around everywhere. In the mid 80's got myself a 2 dr. 78 G with 250 6cyl. Junked it when in 88 or 89 came across another 2 dr. 78 with 302 V8 with bad lifters that I bought for $50 bucks. Pulled the motor did a mild rebuild with decent cam, Hedman LT headers and alum. d/plane intake manifold. That car was fun!!!!!
Junked that car in early 90's and left the Granada scene till almost in the year 2000 a widow sold me her late husband's 78 Granada for $1. Also a 2 door but back to 250 cid 6. Drove that car for a few years till a co-worker 1 day knew of a 77 Granada with a 351W/ pan fill C4. I bought that car as a parts car to do a swap into my $1 car.
351W ran ok but not great but it let me drop it in and get things working with fitting my mod parts. Hooker 6208 headers fit with slight firewall denting on pass. side. Rebuilt the C4 and added "H" servo, strip valve body, adj. modulator, 3000 stall. B&M quicksilver shifter replaced the column shift. After a few months of running this setup with the stock 351W I pulled out the engine during the winter months and sent it to an engine shop to turn it into a 408W stroker. Scat crank, eagle H beam rods, forged pistons, Crower solid flat tappet cam, E/brock V Jr. alum heads, 1.7 ratio roller rockers, Air gap manifold with 950 cfm Holley carb. That engine ran great!!!!! Car was still a bit rough body wise but totally fit into the sleeper model (except for the idle and exhaust noise). Had to notch the trans cross member to fit the 3" exhaust underneath through dynomax mufflers and dumps at the rear end. Got the suspension fixed up a bit so while handling wasn't great in corners went great in a straight line (freaked out a Viper on a straightaway on a highway roll).
A few years of running that car and the body got REALLY tired so it was time to move on, sold the complete engine/trans combo to a guy that put it into his Mustang and got word from him shortly after he got it in his car it ran low 10's. That 408W worked!!!!!
Looking forward to the rest of the series, sorry for the length of this comment.
Great job fellas. You REALLY do good work :) I worked in the Motor Industry for 45+ years and watching all the mechanics was nothing compared to what you fellas do, better than those mechs.
you realize this is an unlimited budget,scripted show right?
Oh, and this is without a doubt the coolest Granada I have ever seen!
One of my favorite projects on the show. Who doesn't like a sleeper
Awesome job. Unquestionably top notch work.
Very impressed and I'm a huge fan of the Granada, i had one at 17
I’ve been there on the headers. I knew as soon as you guys set the engine in, you were in for some fun.
Still love the shows, from the first with the two original guys until now, keep up the good work fella’s.🇨🇦👍👍
Man, what a time warp! A '77 Granada is exactly what I drove in high school in the late 80's. Passed on to me from grandpa and going to my uncle's body shop and learning the bodywork trade. I painted it a candy mettalic blue with flakes just because.....good times!
I finally got some time to take a break and start watching the sleeper build. This thing is awesome! I really enjoyed finally getting to meet y'all and talk for a bit in Bowling green. I hope you found that 10mm socket under the passenger seat and that it goes to good use :) Keep kickin ass my dudes!
I love this build up. Can’t believe that you are using a 11” converter and a straight fan!!!
Can't wait to see this build finished... !!! I used to own a 2 door silver and maroon 1975 Ford Granada with the old 250 straight 6 engine and I drove the wheels off of that car when I was 16 years old lol It was my first car. I absolutely went everywhere in that car and made a lot of memories with that car in my teen years. I always wanted to hop-up that car and replace the 6 with a hopped up V-8 just like you're doing right here. Love this :-) ❤
Dudes! I traded a beater truck for a decent ‘76 Grey Granny in 1990. It did not like to be left out in the rain & would stall & die regularly if driven in wet conditions. I was too poor to score anything else so I kept swapping out the ignition box modules (red tab) & would dry them out between by baking them in the oven for 30 minutes @lowest temp setting. That beast would fire right up & go again until it rained again. Tough gig in Portland OR. Drove it for 5 years. Left it on a side street with “Free & good luck” sign on the dash & keys in it. Good times!
This is what hot rodding is all about. Build the engine, do what it takes to make it fit, and adapt related components as needed. Looks stock but sounds like a beast, have fun and be different.
I love Mike Galley when he was the on front cameras but you can't denied how well Pat do it as well. You lost big chunk of weight, congrats and keep it doing it
I love it! AN fittings on one end and cheap hose clamps on the other!
Nice! I had a 76 Granada built the 302, limited slip 9 inch 3.55 gears put it on a diet. Peps found it hard to keep laughing when their jaws hit the ground!
This is funny, many times I have heard these guys say that this "street engine" will run just fine on the street. Are they trying to convince us the listeners or themselves? With enough torque converter, rear gear. and a engine vacuum reservoir, it should be tolerable. Taking it to the limit, fun video!
My first car at 18 and in the Army was 1979 Granada. V8 and I put a lot of miles on it.
Years ago I found a 72 Grenada with a 351c 2v and long tube headers stuffed in. Had to pull the motor to change the plugs. I yanked the motor and dropped it into my '67 Mustang coupe. Good times, and this is a great build.
First year for Granada was 1975 to 1980 then went to fox chassis for 81-82. They also never had Cleveland engines in them from factory only 200-250 cid 6 cyl, 302 V8 and 351W up to 1977 model year.
I know Grenadas never came with Clevelands. Iirc, 351c's were sold between '70 and '73 so none would have been around for a factory Grenada install. Thinking back on it more now brings back more details. That motor was from a '72 something. I honestly forget the year of the Grenada, thinking now it might have been a '76 (doesnt matter any more) but it had been made into a sleeper by the previous owner with that motor swap. I bought it in San Fran in 2000 and swapped out the tired 289 4bbl for the 351. Was stationed in Nor Cal at the time, took it with me to Connecticut when I transferred. I sold my Mustang in 2003 up there.
And thank you for the correction. Helps to jog the memory and get details right.
500 horsepower in a Granada! Thats an insane sleeper!!
Love this, working a problem with humor. Good chemistry between Pat and Frankie, keep it coming fellas.
Haha!! Maybe a little late. I just used the stock shorty headers from the '85 5.0 Mustang. With a little modification I used the exhaust from the Mustang too.
My father (and later my brother) had a '77 Granada with a factory 302 in it. Of course it was a down tuned smog motor but it was still a mid sized car with a 5L. It didn't exactly suck!
Love this build!! I had a triple dark blue 77 mercury monarch with the inline 6 in the early 90’s. Mint condition but totally anemic. Didn’t have the money but wanted to swap a mild 302 in
We did one with a built-up 351w. It was a GOOOOD time.
I like how you utilized both the radiator transmission cooler and the aftermarket one.
Man I am loving this build. Not just bc it’s a ford but painting the motor to look junky and all is awesome. I have to say I cringed when you tossed the flex fan on there though lol
my first "road car" was a 77 merc monarch, i bought it for 500 with 70000 miles and it was in perfect cond besides a bad motor, i taught myself how to swap the motor, i no longer have it but i know who does and it currently has a built 351c in it it'll pull a wheel now.
Man I'm jealous. My mom had a baby blue 4 door Granada that she gave to my sister when she was down and out and I drove it 1,100+ miles to put it in her driveway and I'm tellen ya that little luxury car was built like a tank and was tight with Zero rattle's. It had seems like a 250 six in it and after that trip I would dream about having one with a 300 six in it then I met a young couple with a 2 door and I think a 302 and the husband would go through the neighborhood burning the tires and driving crazy, and then one day I heard he was in jail and on his way to the pen. 😵 I know TMI😆 Those are good cars and my sister's bosses son thought it was a Lincoln.😆
I had a 77 in high school, I had built a 302 with a 3/4 racing cam 4 barrel , it was a 4speed , it was a riot to drive
My was the same color
I love this. ❤️ we are looking into getting a 4 door Grenada with a factory 4 speed.
Would like to have had a 347 in my silver, with dk red half vinyl roof, 4 speed, with smog-choked 302 powered 77 Granada. My first new car.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I LOVE THE FORD GRANADA!!!!! I LOVE THE UPGRADES!!! GREAT VIDEO AND THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!
347 pure windsor stroked bliss
Wanting to build a sleeper so bad, but right now is not the time. You guys are not helping with the patience part of my build. Looks like fun. Really ready to see it drive!
The product promotions in the videos are very informative.
Those headers are pretty much more trouble than they're worth. Glad you guys did show how to mod them though
I have an ‘80 Granada and have been through the same process. Hooker 6901 headers fit for me with only slight denting of the firewall on the driver’s side 👍
It still amazes me the faith people put in the 4 carb mounting bolts on the intake. Hard to believe they can hold the entire engine.
If it works n don't kill you, why fix it?? Lol..
When I was stationed in the Philippines in '75 to'77 my next door neighbor who was also in the USN had a Grenada. Don't know what year. He gave me many a ride to work. I always thought these Granada's were very smooth and comfortable. But vastly under-powered. I think his car was a 6 cyl...not much get up and go. Nice project!
These past two shows on this car remind me of the old days with Chuck and Joe when the show was about adding horsepower to cars.
Good to see another vid from the pocket pen father and son team, doing old school stuff. Loving the show casing of America quality products on the show as well. Go the "power enhancing chemicals", my favourite kind. Really looking forward to seeing how the Granada gets down the strip with a 100 or more shot, ricers beware of American muscle.
Since your in that era. It would be nice for you guys to build a 80's Dodge Mirada , Cordoba , or Diplomat coupe.
Seriously that would be fun to see those cars and what they should’ve been from the factory. they were made so terribly underpowered.
Would absolutely love to see one of those built into a sleeper.
Same. Tbey are probably chesp to buy. The Cordoba came with a 400 big block, IIRC. Hop that up and it would very comfortable as well as reasonably quick.
I would absolutely love this car.
Damn. I wish I was able to build my old 76 Granada. So jealous!
Header for 65-70 Mustang are a direct bolt on to stock heads. The AFR heads probably need the "Sportsman head" pattern ports.
That was great! Cousin next door had a Silver/Red 77 Granada 2dr.
Looking forward to see it on road and on chassis dyno numbers. My guess close to 100 hp loss.
70-95rwhp less maybe.. My guess..lol
@@P71ScrewHead turns out it lost over 200hp with full exhaust.
@@randysrestoration What they do, put a 2" single exhaust?? Lol.. That's crazy.. I put high flow cats on my P71 n electric exhaust cutouts to stock exhaust, only lose 12rwhp when closed..
PAT! Slubar says wassaaap!
Diggin your gig man!!
My first car was a '77 Mercury Monarch, the Granada's sister car. 302 Auto with a 2.47 rear gear. What a dog! I do recall it had a LOT of chassis components in common with the '69-70 Mustang. I wonder if those headers would't be a better fit than Maverick?
Put 302 in my 62 Falcon found HEADMAN HEADERS made a set that fits. Was real tight but they work.
Hooker used to make full length headers for the Granada. They worked with 302 automatics, but not the 3+1 manual.
In the late 70s late night Tv programming was stacked with a choice of private detective shows to sift through . If your wanting to see some funny wheeled action of the Grenada’s chase scenes you’ll just nee to search Barnaby Jones , a certain thrill ride ! 80 hp beast
So, almost 100HP per liter without forced induction or exotic fuel injection, that's good. Modifying headers without causing flow problems, that's also good. I love watching people who know what they're doing it well! The only question I'm asking myself is what is this super sleeper going to drive like.
My best friends mom drove a white Granada. I didn't know you could make a V8 so weak kneed! I'm sure the true 7.5 compression ratio and single exhaust under 2 inches did a lot to neuter it.
Great work happening here. A+ on the trans cooler mount, looks pro from the word go. I spy a nine inch center section ready to bark? Mint!
I wanted one of those cars with a 460 , with the problems they had with the headers, even with stock exhaust manifolds, the 460 would require a lot of cutting.
I love these shows. Pat you look so much better since you lost that neck weight, keep it up.
Awesome knowledge awesome people Good times keep up the great work
I see duration on your cam, lobe separation and centerline. BUT what lift? I am just comparing it to a 347 stroker I built and wishing I had mine on a dyno. Eagle stroker kit, girdled, hi volume pump. GT40x heads with a mass amount of porting and time on the flow bench. Machined for Manley dual springs. 1.7 roller rockers. 236/244 dur.@ .050 Lift 570/565 Comp Cams grind 506000. Weinland tunnel ram with Holley 600cfm carbs. Summit billet distributer/ MSD. It is in a 79 Fox body , narrowed 9" 4.11 gears. C-4 TCI converter. I drool watching you tune on the dyno. I suspect it is in the 500 HP range but we all want to have it on paper. I am convinced that the tunnel ram will deliver with this setup.
Following this !! Pretty excited hot rod ghia
That car reminds me of my old 4 door mercury monarch. It was a very nice car it had a console amd leather electric seats and leather interior. I nicknamed it my baby Lincoln. It was a very nice car compared to a old granada. But when i got it it was in my in laws family since it was brand new. The motor had over 200k miles on it when i got it. So i killed that motor and found a 1969 ford 302 amd i did a bunch of hp upgrades and it ended up at just under 500 hp at the rear wheels. It was a fast car. The only thing that beat me was a 77 trans am with a big block and nitrous . He only beat me by half a car. I outran vettes, camaroes , and mustangs on regular basis. Had lots of fun in that car. It was very quiet and you couldnt tell what it had under the hood until i pulled open the headers plates and then whoever i was racing knew there was about to be a heck of a race
How funny, I haven't seen a Granada since the late 80's!
when I was 16 I had one it was dark green good for the old one wheel Peel
The orig. motor had flat tops yall could have put the heads and cam into it ? on a 78 302 heads they are low compression ? putting the parts you picked would have pep up the old motor .
Luv the Granada!.
Those flex fans are loads of fun when they start to crack.
Damn car changes hats when that exhaust is wide open
I have always wanted to do this project the Ford Granada the ultimate sleeper
lol precisely massaged, love it
A Granada eh...okay I've seen everything now : )