What a circus it must have been for all of them. Absolute chaos in the band and organization. Brian, reading a statement that Landy wrote for him. What a sad group. Brian was not totally in control of his own life, as was revealed in the coming years. sad.
I heard they did this law suit in order to get Landry’s financials out in the open to prove he was scamming Brian. Very clever move. I think Stan acted as a bodyguard at some point for Brian.
john branca AND tom hulett! what a wonderful intersection of two background characters who loomed large in the deaths of two of america's most impactful musical and cultural icons. glad they didn't make it a third with brian.
Poor Brian, a very gentle, kind soul who by about 1969 could no longer take the pressure of the record business. Brian loved drugs, pot , speed and cocaine. He started around 1964 with pot. The drugs plus a creeping mental illness did him in. Along the way many people took advantage of his kind heart but he's still here.He just lost his wife, I hope there are people who love him that will really care for him.
@@shable1436 I have and didn't like it, I thought Cusack was a poor choice physically for Brian, Dano was ok. Some inaccuracies which drives me nuts. I'd rather watch a good documentary which the current Disney doc wasn't. I thought both the Endless Harmony and American Band docs were good. The BB's deserve at least a six hour treatment like the Grateful Dead got on Prime. I doubt it will ever happen.
Attorney Mason did not help Brian, in my opinion. Clearly Brian needed help to break the spell cast by Landy. It turned out that Stan Love was right, and he was supported by Carl and others in getting a conservatorship for Brian (though I don’t think it was Stan Love). Mason definitely should have helped in this process, though in this clip he seems to be rejecting the process in accordance with Brian’s wishes, even though Brian was incapable of thinking clearly.
Carl was the one who ultimately gained the conservatorship in December of 91 and he appointed Jerome Billet to handle a lot of the business end of things as his primary concern was getting Brian away from Landy. Well when Brian married Melinda, she gained conservatorship and they ended up suing Billet over what they deemed his failure to protect Brian during the Wilson V Love lawsuit such as his lawyers destroying documents and overcharging Brian.
@@lawrence142002 that explains a lot. Very sad story. The only thing I can say is I hope there is a big freaking reward for Brian in the afterlife, because he sure has been put through hell in this life. I think things would be much better for Brian today if Carl were still with us.
@@ronfowlermusic I hope Carl is enjoying his reward in the afterlife now, because he too was put through hell in this life, some of it caused by his brothers. While being Brian and Dennis's brother sure had its benefits, it definitely had its downsides too.
@@jamessilver6429 Or like when Trump met with Putin and Putin controlled him like a little puppy dog and it`s no wonder with all the cash Trump has in Russia as Eric Trump has stated.
“.... walked just into the room.” “.... walked just into the room.” “.... walked just into the room.” “.... walked just into the room.” “.... walked just into the room.” Mr Love 😂😂😂
This is a very complex and inordinately strange story. In Brian's first autobiography, "Wouldn't It Be Nice" (1991), he strongly defended Landy. He makes no mention of Melinda Ledbetter, his second (and current and long-time) wife. In his second biography, "I am Brian Wilson" (2016), Brian reviles Landy and credits Melinda for liberating him from Lady's brainwashing and Landy's Svengali control. The important thing is that Brian made it through all of this and remains the most beloved icon in pop/rock music, by critics and fans alike, who admire his great resolve, his talent as a songwriter, singer, producer and arranger (and he can, or could, play every instrument except horns, which he didn't have the "lip" for), as well as his disarming humility and ingenuous personality. If there were any residual doubts about his genius, it was put to rest with his last original album, "No Pier Pressure" (2015).
Brian himself never criticized Landy much - even in the 2000s he didnt. he always said that he learned so much from him etc. his view on Landy is mostly positive.
There were sinister aspects of Landy, but folks forget that Landy saved Wilson's life. At 350 pounds with alcohol and drug addictions, Wilson probably wouldn't have survived.
Stan Love and Rocky Pamplin went to Dennis' house and confronted him about giving cocaine to Brian. One of them punched him in the throat and they proceeded to kick him when he fell. Wasn't really a fair fight. Although if I was going to confront Dennis, I would not want to fight him fair either because he was a legitimate tough guy.
Remember the Wilson’s and the Love’s were family (close family) and it sounded like it was all a family matter. The brothers gave Brian drugs, likely because they were on drugs and sympathized with their suffering brother, who was having a difficult time with being sober. Mike Love was known as a hardass, but he was clean in the Eighties and Nineties, and allot of times X-drug users are gung ho about other drug addicts getting clean. Mike and Stan probably felt it was their responsibility to help get/keep Brian clean, seeing as they were also family and at one time Brian even asked them to keep him clean. As far as Dennis, he was an addict, like Brian, so he gave Brian hardcore drugs at times Brian was clean and sober. That is definitely not cool, but it seems like he was being more of a fellow drug addict than a brother. At one point Stan and a bodyguard beat up Dennis for these actions, something allot of families of drug addicts have dealt with. There’s no condoning beating up a weak person on drugs, but I’m sure many people can understand how it can get to that point. The frustrations with people doing this to themselves and those around them can be overwhelming and feel like hitting a brick wall. Now, tack that on with the drug user being the lead talent of a multimillion dollar organization, and also letting some outsider move into his home, ruin the band, and take all his money. Whether fans like it or not, Brian and Dennis were toxic to The Beach Boys, yet The Beach Boys couldn’t have existed without them. I can only imagine how much this frustrated the other band members and why emotion played such a crucial role in Mike Love and his family’s decisions toward Brian and Dennis. Sadly, Dennis died pretty young because of a drowning accident and guess what, drugs played a crucial role. It was almost like an, I told you so, from the Love’s and it greatly affected Brian (which was the catalyst for this whole thing in the 80’s). If you read some of the stories about Dennis (personally my favorite Beach Boy), he was a borderline maniac. From marrying a woman who was claiming to be his cousin to treating drugs like they were candy, not too mention the craziness with the Manson Family, he had allot of problems and brought those around him down with him. Luckily this story has a happy ending… Brian eventually got clean and The Beach Boys reunited for one last time before Carl died.
I know that Stan Love loved Brian, but he did beat up Dennis and Carl. This explains why the other Beach Boys did not support Stan gaining conservatorship over Brian.
So it would seem they ran Eugene Landy out the door within a couple of years after this. Was it Stan Love’s work or the rest of the band that got Landy out for the last time?
There is a doc on UA-cam that says this is the action backed by Melinda and evidence that Landy was going to inherit from Brian's will. Landy was given a restraining order and Brian ,without the drugs and influence, was able to accept he was being abused and exploited. It is Melinda and the band/family behind this but Stan is their cover.
Stan was somehow unable to continue the proceedings for the conservatorship, so Carl stepped in and got a successor conservator appointed. The family (presumably Carl, their mother Audree, and Brian's daughters Carnie and Wendy) got a restraining order for Brian against Dr. Landy. In addition, Landy's license to practice medicine in California was revoked. Although she probably did a lot of behind the scenes work, Melinda could not be part of the legal proceedings, as she was not related to Brian at the time.
I thought that I was somewhat of a BB fan,but I had a "did I come in at intermission?" feeling here. Who is Stan, what had just happened prior to this?
Where to begin? There was lots of family stuff going on (there frequently was) plus Gene Landy had completely taken over Brian's life and his money which was the big "new" problem. Stan Love was Mike Love's younger brother and was the BB's manager for a while. I believe the band wanted to take back Brian from Landy and had proposed a conservatorship arrangement. Hope this helps.
@@bobareebop not quite. the band had not cosigned anything at this time. it would be almost another year before the family of brian wilson got on board with a conservatorship and the total removal of landy.
Another brother, Steve Love, was the Beach Boys' manager off and on in the 1970s, not Stan. Stan was one of Brian's bodyguards in the late 1970s, hired not to keep fans away from Brian but to keep Brian away from drugs.
Just who did they steal that COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE last name from? Oh, Murry's sister, Mike (and brothers) mother. THAT says a LOT! 2 out of 3 HORRID people in Brian's life, brother and sister. (Well, the sister's sons.) steve
Melinda could not legally do anything, because she wasn't family at the time. Stan Love is Brian's cousin. He had to get Brian's family to consent to the proceeding, but he had legal standing to bring a conservatorship petition.
I remember thinking how old Brian looked at the time (I was 16). Now I'm thinking how young/good he looks considering I'm now older than he was here.
considering he was in his late 40s and all he went through he looked great
I bet it was the glasses; glasses can make people look older, or ‘more adult’
"I am very well familiar with my own life, of course...." beautiful.
Brian:”I have the greatest hair of anyone in rock music.”
It's true, he really does xD
Yup. Denny’s was good, also
Love him so much
It’s so true! Brian’s hair is amazing. The Wilson brothers all had fantastic hair.
Hair club for men!
What a circus it must have been for all of them. Absolute chaos in the band and organization. Brian, reading a statement that Landy wrote for him. What a sad group. Brian was not totally in control of his own life, as was revealed in the coming years. sad.
Brian was NOT in charge of his own life at this time.
Thought he had been since he left Landry
@@TrilogyNjStorm but this was before Landy was out of the picture
When _has_ he been in char of his own life? Oh, yeah. Certain stretches in the 1970s.
I heard they did this law suit in order to get Landry’s financials out in the open to prove he was scamming Brian. Very clever move. I think Stan acted as a bodyguard at some point for Brian.
Oh, A very warped one
“I’m totally in charge of my own life”….
….”ok Mr Wilson….we’ll just grab your arms and lead you out now….don’t struggle….don’t resist”
Was that landy? I didn't know he was that far back then
Blink twice is the Dr is behind the curtains
john branca AND tom hulett! what a wonderful intersection of two background characters who loomed large in the deaths of two of america's most impactful musical and cultural icons. glad they didn't make it a third with brian.
Poor Brian, a very gentle, kind soul who by about 1969 could no longer take the pressure of the record business. Brian loved drugs, pot , speed and cocaine. He started around 1964 with pot. The drugs plus a creeping mental illness did him in. Along the way many people took advantage of his kind heart but he's still here.He just lost his wife, I hope there are people who love him that will really care for him.
Have you seen the Cusack movie?
@@shable1436 I have and didn't like it, I thought Cusack was a poor choice physically for Brian, Dano was ok. Some inaccuracies which drives me nuts. I'd rather watch a good documentary which the current Disney doc wasn't. I thought both the Endless Harmony and American Band docs were good. The BB's deserve at least a six hour treatment like the Grateful Dead got on Prime. I doubt it will ever happen.
I'd forgotten about this footage - sad times
Attorney Mason did not help Brian, in my opinion. Clearly Brian needed help to break the spell cast by Landy. It turned out that Stan Love was right, and he was supported by Carl and others in getting a conservatorship for Brian (though I don’t think it was Stan Love). Mason definitely should have helped in this process, though in this clip he seems to be rejecting the process in accordance with Brian’s wishes, even though Brian was incapable of thinking clearly.
Carl was the one who ultimately gained the conservatorship in December of 91 and he appointed Jerome Billet to handle a lot of the business end of things as his primary concern was getting Brian away from Landy. Well when Brian married Melinda, she gained conservatorship and they ended up suing Billet over what they deemed his failure to protect Brian during the Wilson V Love lawsuit such as his lawyers destroying documents and overcharging Brian.
@@lawrence142002 that explains a lot. Very sad story. The only thing I can say is I hope there is a big freaking reward for Brian in the afterlife, because he sure has been put through hell in this life. I think things would be much better for Brian today if Carl were still with us.
@@ronfowlermusic I hope Carl is enjoying his reward in the afterlife now, because he too was put through hell in this life, some of it caused by his brothers. While being Brian and Dennis's brother sure had its benefits, it definitely had its downsides too.
Make the Beach Boy Great Again…
I have a feeling that the Wilson family would rather forget
I’m being ultimately reserved
Good on you Brian
He was completely under the control of Landy at that point, who wrote the statement.
Wow; it was as if Brian were in custody being led about as such!…
Stan was the only one that spoke up and didn’t care what came back.
Jesus, was Bill Murray channeling Brian Wilson for his Caddyshack character, Carl?
Always thought Carl Spackler was a loose remake of Brian. Caddyshack & The Beach Boys, 2 of my favorite things!
Brian: I am in control of my own life!
5 minutes later is escorted out
not unlike " president" biden
@@jamessilver6429 Or like when Trump met with Putin and Putin controlled him like a little puppy dog and it`s no wonder with all the cash Trump has in Russia as Eric Trump has stated.
@@jamessilver6429
Wtf are you blithering on about?
Don't be so obtuse 🙄
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“.... walked just into the room.” “.... walked just into the room.” “.... walked just into the room.” “.... walked just into the room.” “.... walked just into the room.”
Mr Love 😂😂😂
Stan wasn’t bald, he was just too tall for his hair.
Family pattern baldness? You seen his big
brother, without a hat, since 1969?
Me neither.
steve
@@steveskouson9620 *Have you seen. Have some respect for the english language
@Steve *Grammar Dick
@@Paul-dw2cl
Oh please! Quit lecturing people over such trivial nonsense. Pontificating windbag 🙄
Stan was right.
Stan Love is a dick head.
Yes
Much as I am not a fan of Stan, he was most definitely right in this case.
Wow-- imagine the years of Brian's life wasted on drugs snd lamdy. Oh, the mistakes we make in life. But his talent and musical legacy are undeniable.
This is a very complex and inordinately strange story. In Brian's first autobiography, "Wouldn't It Be Nice" (1991), he strongly defended Landy. He makes no mention of Melinda Ledbetter, his second (and current and long-time) wife. In his second biography, "I am Brian Wilson" (2016), Brian reviles Landy and credits Melinda for liberating him from Lady's brainwashing and Landy's Svengali control. The important thing is that Brian made it through all of this and remains the most beloved icon in pop/rock music, by critics and fans alike, who admire his great resolve, his talent as a songwriter, singer, producer and arranger (and he can, or could, play every instrument except horns, which he didn't have the "lip" for), as well as his disarming humility and ingenuous personality. If there were any residual doubts about his genius, it was put to rest with his last original album, "No Pier Pressure" (2015).
Brian himself never criticized Landy much - even in the 2000s he didnt. he always said that he learned so much from him etc. his view on Landy is mostly positive.
There were sinister aspects of Landy, but folks forget that Landy saved Wilson's life. At 350 pounds with alcohol and drug addictions, Wilson probably wouldn't have survived.
Landy wrote the 1991 autobiography btw.
Love and mercy is the movie that portrays this the best
Landy was a con man thief, but is the reason why Brian outlived his entire family
Skinny Legend.
Stan Love , Mike Love / Lead Vocal Beach Boys , Kevin Love NBA Minnesota Timberwolves , Miami Heat
Stan Love was the person that used to fight with Dennis Wilson.
Stan at one point apparently broke into Dennis Wilson's home and with some help severely beat dennis.
@@KeizerHedorah And punched him in the throat destroying what remained of his singing voice after all the coke and smokes
As well as Rocky Pamplin
Stan Love and Rocky Pamplin went to Dennis' house and confronted him about giving cocaine to Brian. One of them punched him in the throat and they proceeded to kick him when he fell. Wasn't really a fair fight. Although if I was going to confront Dennis, I would not want to fight him fair either because he was a legitimate tough guy.
@@KeizerHedorah bunch of punks
love and mercy to stan and mike love tonite...
Mike sucks...
brians like a king or something
Millionaire more like
So I guess this is where the term hostage video originated.
I know it was the 80s but that suit was way too big for Brian!
Loose suit coats and big shoulders were definitely an 80s thing. I was there.
1990
Also he lost about 130 pounds
Literally says 1990 in the title
@sternenkind i didnt mean that, i just found it funny that he said 'I know it was the 80s'
Remember the Wilson’s and the Love’s were family (close family) and it sounded like it was all a family matter.
The brothers gave Brian drugs, likely because they were on drugs and sympathized with their suffering brother, who was having a difficult time with being sober. Mike Love was known as a hardass, but he was clean in the Eighties and Nineties, and allot of times X-drug users are gung ho about other drug addicts getting clean. Mike and Stan probably felt it was their responsibility to help get/keep Brian clean, seeing as they were also family and at one time Brian even asked them to keep him clean.
As far as Dennis, he was an addict, like Brian, so he gave Brian hardcore drugs at times Brian was clean and sober. That is definitely not cool, but it seems like he was being more of a fellow drug addict than a brother. At one point Stan and a bodyguard beat up Dennis for these actions, something allot of families of drug addicts have dealt with. There’s no condoning beating up a weak person on drugs, but I’m sure many people can understand how it can get to that point.
The frustrations with people doing this to themselves and those around them can be overwhelming and feel like hitting a brick wall. Now, tack that on with the drug user being the lead talent of a multimillion dollar organization, and also letting some outsider move into his home, ruin the band, and take all his money.
Whether fans like it or not, Brian and Dennis were toxic to The Beach Boys, yet The Beach Boys couldn’t have existed without them. I can only imagine how much this frustrated the other band members and why emotion played such a crucial role in Mike Love and his family’s decisions toward Brian and Dennis. Sadly, Dennis died pretty young because of a drowning accident and guess what, drugs played a crucial role. It was almost like an, I told you so, from the Love’s and it greatly affected Brian (which was the catalyst for this whole thing in the 80’s). If you read some of the stories about Dennis (personally my favorite Beach Boy), he was a borderline maniac. From marrying a woman who was claiming to be his cousin to treating drugs like they were candy, not too mention the craziness with the Manson Family, he had allot of problems and brought those around him down with him.
Luckily this story has a happy ending… Brian eventually got clean and The Beach Boys reunited for one last time before Carl died.
Yawn 🥱😴
Enough of your long winded diatrabe on the inner mechanisms of the band, ffs. 🙄
Self-proclaimed armchair expert on the Beach Boys.😂
excellent !
3:00 ..........As written by (Dr) Landy
Is that Landy pushing everyone out?
Can you tell me what's going on here I don't remember any of this or understand what is going on with Brian
I know that Stan Love loved Brian, but he did beat up Dennis and Carl. This explains why the other Beach Boys did not support Stan gaining conservatorship over Brian.
It didn't aged well.
Get a bad vibe from mr Stanley
Fun facts Stan Love's (Brian's cousin) is father of famous NBA player Kevin Love
Small world
Stan also had an NBA career of his own
@@jbullock7445 Yeah but not nearly as impressive as his son
@@benst-cyr2375 I went to high school with Kevin. Was a super nice guy. Stan would tape his basketball games with a big VHS camcorder.
@@jbullock7445 Did he ever talk about his uncle?
So it would seem they ran Eugene Landy out the door within a couple of years after this. Was it Stan Love’s work or the rest of the band that got Landy out for the last time?
I think when Landy was finally fired that Melinda had something to do with it as well.
Stan luv is a thug
There is a doc on UA-cam that says this is the action backed by Melinda and evidence that Landy was going to inherit from Brian's will. Landy was given a restraining order and Brian ,without the drugs and influence, was able to accept he was being abused and exploited. It is Melinda and the band/family behind this but Stan is their cover.
@@bobareebop Combined efforts of Melinda and Carl if memory serves me correct.
Stan was somehow unable to continue the proceedings for the conservatorship, so Carl stepped in and got a successor conservator appointed. The family (presumably Carl, their mother Audree, and Brian's daughters Carnie and Wendy) got a restraining order for Brian against Dr. Landy. In addition, Landy's license to practice medicine in California was revoked. Although she probably did a lot of behind the scenes work, Melinda could not be part of the legal proceedings, as she was not related to Brian at the time.
Psychotropic drugs took their toll during this period.
I thought that I was somewhat of a BB fan,but I had a "did I come in at intermission?" feeling here. Who is Stan, what had just happened prior to this?
Where to begin? There was lots of family stuff going on (there frequently was) plus Gene Landy had completely taken over Brian's life and his money which was the big "new" problem. Stan Love was Mike Love's younger brother and was the BB's manager for a while. I believe the band wanted to take back Brian from Landy and had proposed a conservatorship arrangement. Hope this helps.
@@bobareebop not quite. the band had not cosigned anything at this time. it would be almost another year before the family of brian wilson got on board with a conservatorship and the total removal of landy.
Another brother, Steve Love, was the Beach Boys' manager off and on in the 1970s, not Stan. Stan was one of Brian's bodyguards in the late 1970s, hired not to keep fans away from Brian but to keep Brian away from drugs.
Isn't Stan love the same guy who beat the piss out of Dennis Wilson and almost killed him?
Yes, Mike's brother and was a bodyguard of some sorts for the band
Yeppppp as well as Rocky Pamplin
Yes, Stan, Rocky, AND Steve Love were 3 extremely JEALOUS assholes
Yes, cause Dennis gave him drugs. Dennis had his own problems, but he deserved that.
He did it twice. First in 1974, which messed damaged Dennis's vocal cords, and again in 1981 with Rocky Pamplin.
Stan became well known for the suit! His shark skin suit that he wore here.
Stan Love is very tall. He's 6ft 9
Really?
@@SenorZorrozzz his son is currently in the nba
@@spicynose ya, kevin love.
I remember watching Stan Love play for the Baltimore Bullets.
Stan Played college basketball at Oregon.
Blink twice Brian
I've loved the Beach Boys since the sixties and Brian is a genius but man, they were a shit show.
Stan Love was correct
To hell with the Loves.
He saved him though. Thanks to him really they got rid of Landy
Melinda saved him... the Loves are terrible and just added to the abuse and manipulation the Wilson’s received
Just who did they steal that COMPLETELY
INAPPROPRIATE last name from?
Oh, Murry's sister, Mike (and brothers) mother.
THAT says a LOT! 2 out of 3 HORRID people in
Brian's life, brother and sister. (Well, the sister's
sons.)
steve
@@steveskouson9620 Do you know them personally?
Melinda could not legally do anything, because she wasn't family at the time. Stan Love is Brian's cousin. He had to get Brian's family to consent to the proceeding, but he had legal standing to bring a conservatorship petition.
Stan Love has more hair than his brother, hahahaha.
Stan Love doesn't have mange like his brother.
what the hell is going on at the end?
i was also trying to figure that out, it looks like someone is attempting to serve brian papers.