The original scene is the best and truly epic: it shows that Han Solo is a brutal survivor and true smuggler who lives by a different set of rules than the average civilian. Han's viciousness makes him fearsome and more realistic.
I just think that it's really dumb that Greedo doesn't hit Han either way. He's like a meter away and still a miss? That's why they shouldn't go around changing this stuff
Also why even bother doing all these changes? The original to me is the best because you don't know who got shot until the smoke clears, very wild west style
Ya I watched it in 0.25 speed (UA-cam controls) and his head moves like 2-3 inches in 1 frame (1/24 of a second) from a stand still the previous frame. Ya whatever, I thought he didn't believe in the Force!? (actually even better playing 0.25 at 0.25 speed)
The head bob looks unnatural, gave me a chuckle. I prefer the original where Han blasts him before Greedo gets a shot off. Feels old western and looks really good.
Even in this edit the shots are so close to each other in time that Han never could react. He definitely shot before his brain could detect that the other guy shot first.
Almost as bad as having Vader shriek “nooooo!” before saving Luke. It’s trash. For a brilliant guy in some ways, George Lucas is about as tone deaf and childlike in his interpretation of what the audience “gets” as it is possible to be.
@@GmanMilli I'll never understand the childlike mind of george lucas. Han is a cold blooded killer for shooting the guy holding a gun in his face telling him he's been waiting a long time to kill him.
I grew up with the originals and always only saw Han shoot. When the remake came out, before I saw it, i heard people ask who shot first and was confused because I never saw greedo shoot at all.
I grew up with the originals and have seen 2 remakes now and the first original VHS version showed both shots, where han moves his head unnaturally fast, FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE too!! Wtf is up with all the weird different memories of star wars?? How many different dimensions of people are colliding here? They remade a version for VHS when they came out with the gold box set and then apparently another remake in 2019?? I've definitely never seen the version where only greedo gets hit. That was extremely strange to see claimed to be the original?? And then to see the remake showing him move his head from a different angle?? Where am I? Where did the version I saw go? Wtf is even going on?? Lol
So I just talked to my brothers about this, apparently there has been 5 remakes. Here's one of their msgs; "Yeah, it's hard to say since they changed things multiple times. There are 5 versions, 1977, 1997, 2004, 2011 and 2019 lol" So in the originals you guys saw, was Jabba a human?
Han Solo: Gives all the signals he's going to kill him at the first chance. Disney: As you can see, kids, a real hero never shoots first, they always let the criminal try to kill them first just to be sure that it's going to be a legit act of self defense.
Good thing a ton of old cowboy movies disagree on Disneys stance otherwise they’d make a lot less since when one of the main guys has to shoot someone trying to pull a gun at them when they lost at the poker game.
Wasn’t Disney who made the edit, it was actually George Lucas who made the edit about the same time the prequels came out when they released remastered versions of the movies, way before Disney bought the franchise.
Greedo stopped Han at gunpoint, finger on trigger. Han's defensive killing was justified. Han shot first -and solely. Own the original scene, Lucas. It was what you wanted, and it was better.
"how do we make it child friendly and less dramatic?" "I got it! We zoom the camera out when Han shoots the green guy and make him faceplant for comedy" "Genius"
Han shooting first makes more sense because that alien douch was aiming at a gun at him in the first place and han was defending himself at that moment. Also the way he dodged the bullet in the edited version makes no sense because the ailen was near han at close range. A change that didn't need to happen
Nintendo Gamer Han can still be the first to shoot even if Greedo never shot at all. An example might be if someone was the first arrive at a cinema viewing and was the only person to buy tickets, he would be the first person to arrive at the viewing. Same for if there is a like on a video, it is the first like but that doesn’t mean there has to be a 2nd or 3rd to validate its position as 1st, just as Greedo doesn’t need to shoot to validate Hans shot as the first.
It's not a good change. A) It changes Solos character. B) It makes Greedo look like a fool who can't even hit a target two feet away from him, thus removing his threat.
It isn't surprising that Greedo missed. In the original version, if you slow the video down to 25% and start at 2:02 or 2:03, (6% speed from the original) you can see that Greedo is only holding his blaster with the finger that is in the trigger guard. You can't expect accuracy even at that range while you spin your hand cannon like a western gunslinger Greedo! If we consider both to be canon, then the original footage explains the complaints in the edit. But still, Han shot first, and the 70's special effects are so much better than that garbage edit could ever dream of being. Second theory: Han Solo's player class is definitely rogue, so what you are seeing in the edit is him using a reaction for his *uncanny dodge* ability.
Not to burst your bubbles but in any version greedo never shoot first. Original, Greedo never shoots at all. The remake, if you slow it the very first frame with any kind of laser bolt comes out of both guns.....so they technically both shoot at the same time. But the original is the only one that matters of course.
I like or can live with most of the changes. But the two I can't STAND are making Greedo shoot first, and having Vader cringily say "nOoOoOoOO" as he throws Palpatine into the reactor.
The “Noooo!” is the worst, worst one. Just awful and ruins arguably the most important moment in the entire saga. The stupid scream Lucas added in Empire when Luke drops down the pit was also awful
This was not a disney edit. I have seen the scene where Han shot Greedo appear on my special edition VHS of Star Wars with the edits shown on the bottom side of the screen in the 2000s way before the Disney purchase, so these edits were done by Lucasfilm themselves.
@@SAGAtoday I...honestly don't know what you meant when you replied (also from the actual YT channel owner; nice). All I was saying in this message was trying to tell people "Hey guys, just so everyone knows, these edits in the Disney+ release existed way before Lucasfilm was purchased by Disney because I've seen them exist on a VHS that I know was around before the purchase." Also man...after looking at them in such slow speed...like...wow...amazing what happens when you slow down things frame by frame (my own content included)
@@MMaDness21 I just meant the latest edit with the super awkward side-shift of the head came with the Disney+ release, sure Lucasfilm has been changing it over the years prior to Disney acquiring them too
@@SAGAtoday I actually think that the super awkward head tilt might still be in my VHS, because before the Disney edit I remember that scene looking very jarring… of course this has been years ago so now you’re making me second-guess myself. I’m gonna go see if I can find it to see if I’m not tweaking out.
@@MMaDness21 Apparently the Disney + version added Greedo saying "Maclunkey" right before pulling the trigger. This UA-cam video does not display the Disney audio. But yes, everyone knows George Lucas changed this scene long before Disney purchased and destroyed Star Wars.
First let me apologize in advance if this is a stupid question. However, I'm not a Star Wars fan. I'm only here out of curiosity because I hear this talked about so much. WHY DOES IT MATTER IF HE SHOT FIRST? Greedo was obviously about to murder him so it's not like Han shooting first would make him any less of a hero in the end; So why is this thing so controversial that they had to change it?
@@roach6992 Nobody complained about the scene, not even liberals. Way more people were upset when George Lucas changed it, something you can easily google.
It seems the writers didn’t think it was fair that Han shot without giving Greedo time to react, which seems perfectly in character. Now they gave him a rubberneck.
@@supermom543 Greedo threatens Han so it would make sense for Han to shoot, not to mention, there're literally SUBTITLES for alien languages in the 1997 Special Edition so you can know what the fuck is Greedo talking about.
The original is the best. Han is the only one who shot! Greedo never shot! Han read the situation better also, it's called a character arc. It's part of Han's journey from anti hero to hero. That's why everyone was pissed about 1 little change to this scene because it's a very important detail!
That SC 38 animation was pretty decent. The music was great, but Darth Vader often moved too fluidly. He is supposed to be more stiff and robotic. Also Darth Vader isn't supposed to run or jog. He is supposed to just walk, or stand waiting menacingly. There are other nitpicks, but for a fan made thing it was pretty cool, certainly better than Greedo shooting first.
the fact we see greedo lift his gun and then han shoots him in the original is enough to completely justifies his actions. there was no need to make te changes here.
I really don't understand why it was changed. Spielberg said, or so I have read, that he changed it because he didn't want it to be han fiery first or just killing him, but that seems to imply that he thinks Han is somehow out of line for doing so. Maybe if it was a law enforcement officer, maybe. In movie lore there is always the line of not killing a cop and the public may not look favorably on a criminal killing a cop unless the cop is corrupt. However, this is a bounty hunter and not even a legal law enforcement bounty. He's just going to take him to a gangster to be killed or frozen in whatever . So why wouldn't Han be smart and justified in killing him. Sure, Han may have been a little out of line and somehow costing Jabba money, but we don't really have to take that into account. Hun is perfectly justified in killing him, and not because he was shooting him first. As a matter of fact, as the script is written and first filmed, he is not going to shoot him. We don't know if there is a dead or alive bounty, but probably Jabba wanted him alive so he could make an example of him. The fact that greedo says I've been looking forward to it when Han says over my dead body is not an indication that he is planning on shooting Han. If he was he would have shot him right away and dragged his body out to claim his bounty. So, not only does it not make sense that Han would be out of line to shoot him first or to shoot him at all, but also, it really makes no sense that greedo would try to shoot Han unless Han shot him first, and that would make no difference to Hans character development. I guess if you consider it shooting and missing because he's already been shot by Han and that's why he tried to shoot him anyway, that works. But to try to make the storyline that Han would never shoot first or shouldn't shoot first just makes no sense.
That was the moment i realized how special star wars was, I've NEVER seen a good guy doing anything like this before... It's sad Lucas destroyed its own legacy... For me, Solo shot first, that's how I'll always remember.
One funny thing is that Han simply shooting greedo because greedo is a threat to him, planning on taking him to jabba the Hutt where he will be killed or frozen, is perfectly justified and actually the equivalent of shooting the black clad swordsman in raiders of the Lost ark. If Indy is justified and still a legit hero for shooting a guy because he posed a threat to him and actually a little bit clever and cheeky for doing so unexpectedly, then why can't Han be the cheeky rogish hero for shooting in this case? Shooting someone who is going to take you to mobsters to claim a bounty doesn't require anything further to establish self-defense. I just don't get it.
George Lucas let his personal moral beliefs get the better of him sometimes. Fore example the Ewoks were added as a political message regarding protesting the Vietnam War.
Nobody thought Han was some ruthless death dealer from the original... he was just a badass who had the drop on the enemy. Another casualty of wokism smh
I remember watching the movie in the theatres when it first came out. I have a first edition VHS release of the original. There is zero chance that Greedo shot at all, let alone first. I don’t understand why Lucas backtracked and made this edit, but the remake was full of shitty interventions. The original was exactly as it should’ve been. Apart from this scene, the other one that makes zero sense is having Jabba the Hutt visit Han before he departs Tatooine. Lucas should’ve just left well enough alone.
Han always shot first. My uncle saw the original in theaters and always wondered why this was such a controversy until I explained the "new editions". The one he saw in theaters shows Greedo never firing a shot.
I don't understand why there are Still so many comments about how - even when it is Clearly shown Han shot first - there needs to be some kind of justification for it - "Wuh-well, Actually, Greedo was Threatening him so he Had to, even though you don't really know bc of the smoke blast, and and" Han's not a hero! He's literally a criminal (in a world which is both super oppressed (by the Empire) And super open to criminality) This doesn't make him the Worst in this universe, but he's almost definitely a murderer (in addition to being a smuggler, etc). That's a part of what makes the Rebel forces even existing exceptional (even though, it's not like the Rebels/'good guys' Aren't responsible for a lot of loss of life - killing is generally a not Good thing! Even when it's 'justified') You can still like him bc he's 'cool'! He's just not a good guy (in a universe that makes it very difficult for a truly Good person to exist - 'oppressive war state' is usually not a great existence to be in)
Changing this was a moronic move. he is ment to be *GRAY* ... not black or white like Luke+Vader! We were never sure if he would help out or not if he was a good person or rather didnt risk his skin for someone he hardly knows... not ... whatever this crap is. its not even well done i mean god.... leave it alone. Why not add a mustache to famous paintings next?!
I'm not a fan of Star Wars, but I wanted to know why are people so upset over this? Whenever I have a favorite film, I'm always excited to see additional content, whether it's deleted/extended/alternate scenes. Especially if it makes the movie longer. And plus in this particular scene the outcome was still the same as the original with Han shooting him dead. How is this additional footage a bad thing?
Han shot first. Greedos shot was a reaction thats why the laser missed Han. Otherwise he would of hit him dead center of his chest. Which was justified because he had a blaster pointed at him.
Here is the simplest way to fix this AND justify that Han isn't a cold-blooded killer. Rather than have Greedo say anything or shoot first, have a close-up shot of Greedo's finger NEARLY pulling the trigger. This would be during the part when Han yes "I bet you have" and boom. Cuts back to the original with Greedo collapsing, no head tilt or blaster mark on the wall, Han shoots first. It might sacrifice a bit of Harrison Ford's smug look, but it honestly would be fine because it is such a short scene.
The original scene is the best and truly epic: it shows that Han Solo is a brutal survivor and true smuggler who lives by a different set of rules than the average civilian. Han's viciousness makes him fearsome and more realistic.
Fuckin' definitely; Han Solo's character represents the only sigmatic gunslinger protagonist within the futurism meets metaphorically John Carter that was what inspired Conan The Barbarian testosterone ubermensch theory style material within "Star Wars©" that is a space opera established if George Lucas felt like of said invented created lore being a specific material that is of an anthology and or also not material that is a more intense chaotic Western futurism entertainment genre than "Star Trek©" that factually handles most metaphorically heated philosophical and or aggressive negotiations with either diplomacy and or strategic and or tactful diplomacy successfully sometimes quelling aggressive fight adrenaline experiences merely from specific metaphoric clarification purposes expressed and or discovered instantaneously on the spot #HANALWAYSSHOTFIRST #MAYTHEPASSIVEEXPERIENCESTHATIMPROVESMETHODICALUSEOFFOCUSOFTHEFLOWSTATEANDORTHEFORCEBEWITHYOUALWAYS
It wan't vicious, it was common sense. He was forced to defend himself and he did.
I just think that it's really dumb that Greedo doesn't hit Han either way. He's like a meter away and still a miss? That's why they shouldn't go around changing this stuff
Also why even bother doing all these changes? The original to me is the best because you don't know who got shot until the smoke clears, very wild west style
It's because han shot first
Greedo shot first. He was attempting to scare Han okay, it's on purpose.
Greedo might have even worse of an aim than Stormtroopers.
@@liakshuet5029 It's because Han shot. Greedo didn't shoot at all
nobody else weirded out by hans uncanny neck movement in the new edit?
He had to be trolling Disney. It's by far the worst cut.
Ya I watched it in 0.25 speed (UA-cam controls) and his head moves like 2-3 inches in 1 frame (1/24 of a second) from a stand still the previous frame. Ya whatever, I thought he didn't believe in the Force!? (actually even better playing 0.25 at 0.25 speed)
absolutely creepy
high midichlorian count confirmed
There was no need to kill solo he did it himself by snapping his own neck
The head bob looks unnatural, gave me a chuckle. I prefer the original where Han blasts him before Greedo gets a shot off. Feels old western and looks really good.
this edit was the beginning of the end of the society that i once knew and loved.
Even in this edit the shots are so close to each other in time that Han never could react. He definitely shot before his brain could detect that the other guy shot first.
that's why the change is stupid, in a shootout most of the time there is only one person that fire the arm
I only see 1 shot in the original, hans
This infamous change was truly cringeworthy.
That neck shift was the cringiest part of it
After much deliberation, caring, then not caring and back again, I've decided I agree with you.
Almost as bad as having Vader shriek “nooooo!” before saving Luke. It’s trash. For a brilliant guy in some ways, George Lucas is about as tone deaf and childlike in his interpretation of what the audience “gets” as it is possible to be.
0:55 "You missed! How could you miss!? He was _three feet_ in front of you!!!"
#HanShotFirst
Han could very well have made the ONLY shot, let alone the first shot. I miss the original.
By the conversation Han Solo isn't a 'bad guy' for shooting first anyhow, he was just defending himself from the other guy's threat.
@@GmanMilli I'll never understand the childlike mind of george lucas. Han is a cold blooded killer for shooting the guy holding a gun in his face telling him he's been waiting a long time to kill him.
I grew up with the originals and always only saw Han shoot. When the remake came out, before I saw it, i heard people ask who shot first and was confused because I never saw greedo shoot at all.
I grew up with the originals and have seen 2 remakes now and the first original VHS version showed both shots, where han moves his head unnaturally fast, FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE too!! Wtf is up with all the weird different memories of star wars?? How many different dimensions of people are colliding here? They remade a version for VHS when they came out with the gold box set and then apparently another remake in 2019?? I've definitely never seen the version where only greedo gets hit. That was extremely strange to see claimed to be the original?? And then to see the remake showing him move his head from a different angle?? Where am I? Where did the version I saw go? Wtf is even going on?? Lol
So I just talked to my brothers about this, apparently there has been 5 remakes. Here's one of their msgs; "Yeah, it's hard to say since they changed things multiple times.
There are 5 versions, 1977, 1997, 2004, 2011 and 2019 lol"
So in the originals you guys saw, was Jabba a human?
Han Solo: Gives all the signals he's going to kill him at the first chance.
Disney: As you can see, kids, a real hero never shoots first, they always let the criminal try to kill them first just to be sure that it's going to be a legit act of self defense.
I really appreciate what they’re going for, but Han isn’t wrong for shooting first when he has full confirmation that Greedo is going to kill him.
It wasn't Disney. Lucas made this change prior to the acquisition, likely for the 3D release.
Good thing a ton of old cowboy movies disagree on Disneys stance otherwise they’d make a lot less since when one of the main guys has to shoot someone trying to pull a gun at them when they lost at the poker game.
Wasn’t Disney who made the edit, it was actually George Lucas who made the edit about the same time the prequels came out when they released remastered versions of the movies, way before Disney bought the franchise.
You mean George Lucas, this was his change not Disney’s. He’s an idiot who made lots of stupid changes
The really interesting question is why Lucas is still changing this, hasn't he proved his point?
This one wasn't George Lucas's edit
Golden Sun I heard that he requested Disney to make the edit
Golden Sun yes it is he made the edit before selling to Disney
He's not...
this edit was made a year before the merge with Disney back in 2011
Greedo stopped Han at gunpoint, finger on trigger. Han's defensive killing was justified.
Han shot first -and solely. Own the original scene, Lucas.
It was what you wanted, and it was better.
Looks like a 14 year Olds first after effects project lmao.
That's some crazy fucking neck-flexibility.
Nexibility
"When you have to shoot...shoot. Don't talk!"
"how do we make it child friendly and less dramatic?"
"I got it! We zoom the camera out when Han shoots the green guy and make him faceplant for comedy"
"Genius"
Han shooting first makes more sense because that alien douch was aiming at a gun at him in the first place and han was defending himself at that moment. Also the way he dodged the bullet in the edited version makes no sense because the ailen was near han at close range. A change that didn't need to happen
Han shot first, this is why is still alive...
The biggest mystery since “Who Shot Mr. Burns?”
You can see Han Solo shot first originally
No, in the 1977 version Greedo never shot Han, so it would be impossible for him to shoot first.
Nintendo Gamer Han can still be the first to shoot even if Greedo never shot at all. An example might be if someone was the first arrive at a cinema viewing and was the only person to buy tickets, he would be the first person to arrive at the viewing. Same for if there is a like on a video, it is the first like but that doesn’t mean there has to be a 2nd or 3rd to validate its position as 1st, just as Greedo doesn’t need to shoot to validate Hans shot as the first.
It's not a good change. A) It changes Solos character. B) It makes Greedo look like a fool who can't even hit a target two feet away from him, thus removing his threat.
0:55-0:58 original version always wins 🏆
Original was one of the coolest moments in film / Sci Fi history decades before being modified
I’m sorry but I feel like I’m the only one to see how this is isn’t really cool?
@@BiggieJ4224 he kills a guy who is about to hand him in to be tortured and murdered by a vicious gangster!
I honestly dont even think about this scene anymore.
Yet here you are.
I always thought Han shot first. No need for laser and head jitter.
The idea of not being able to shoot until shot at is the most ridiculous thing I have heard.
When I watched the movie I though Greedo shot first but now seeing it in on youtube and turning it to 0.25 play back speed Han definitly shot first
Why did they draw with a red fuckin sharpie for a laser beam
Han Solo straight up murdered Greedo, and stayed celibate because he gave ZERO effs about it.
The Disney+ version is so bad, it's mindblowing. It's like Lucas said "You think the earlier versions were bad? Hold my beer."
han can dodge point blank because of "smugglers luck"
00:47 Over my dead body.
It isn't surprising that Greedo missed. In the original version, if you slow the video down to 25% and start at 2:02 or 2:03, (6% speed from the original) you can see that Greedo is only holding his blaster with the finger that is in the trigger guard. You can't expect accuracy even at that range while you spin your hand cannon like a western gunslinger Greedo! If we consider both to be canon, then the original footage explains the complaints in the edit. But still, Han shot first, and the 70's special effects are so much better than that garbage edit could ever dream of being.
Second theory: Han Solo's player class is definitely rogue, so what you are seeing in the edit is him using a reaction for his *uncanny dodge* ability.
Not to burst your bubbles but in any version greedo never shoot first. Original, Greedo never shoots at all. The remake, if you slow it the very first frame with any kind of laser bolt comes out of both guns.....so they technically both shoot at the same time. But the original is the only one that matters of course.
The new scene looks so forced and unnatural: Han's neck looks like it's stretching like plastic man's to avoid Greedo's laser shot. It's ridiculous.
I like or can live with most of the changes. But the two I can't STAND are making Greedo shoot first, and having Vader cringily say "nOoOoOoOO" as he throws Palpatine into the reactor.
The “Noooo!” is the worst, worst one. Just awful and ruins arguably the most important moment in the entire saga. The stupid scream Lucas added in Empire when Luke drops down the pit was also awful
Han was the only one that shot. Only one shot was fired and he’s the only one even seen with a gun.
Han shooting first is what makes Han, Han.
This was not a disney edit. I have seen the scene where Han shot Greedo appear on my special edition VHS of Star Wars with the edits shown on the bottom side of the screen in the 2000s way before the Disney purchase, so these edits were done by Lucasfilm themselves.
Disney owns Lucasfilm. It's not complicated
@@SAGAtoday I...honestly don't know what you meant when you replied (also from the actual YT channel owner; nice). All I was saying in this message was trying to tell people "Hey guys, just so everyone knows, these edits in the Disney+ release existed way before Lucasfilm was purchased by Disney because I've seen them exist on a VHS that I know was around before the purchase."
Also man...after looking at them in such slow speed...like...wow...amazing what happens when you slow down things frame by frame (my own content included)
@@MMaDness21 I just meant the latest edit with the super awkward side-shift of the head came with the Disney+ release, sure Lucasfilm has been changing it over the years prior to Disney acquiring them too
@@SAGAtoday I actually think that the super awkward head tilt might still be in my VHS, because before the Disney edit I remember that scene looking very jarring… of course this has been years ago so now you’re making me second-guess myself.
I’m gonna go see if I can find it to see if I’m not tweaking out.
@@MMaDness21 Apparently the Disney + version added Greedo saying "Maclunkey" right before pulling the trigger. This UA-cam video does not display the Disney audio.
But yes, everyone knows George Lucas changed this scene long before Disney purchased and destroyed Star Wars.
Something silly with both scenes is why all the smoke? It's supposed to be a light energy weapon, not a civil war cannon!
Greedo would have missed even without Han moving his head so what’s the point?
First let me apologize in advance if this is a stupid question. However, I'm not a Star Wars fan. I'm only here out of curiosity because I hear this talked about so much.
WHY DOES IT MATTER IF HE SHOT FIRST? Greedo was obviously about to murder him so it's not like Han shooting first would make him any less of a hero in the end; So why is this thing so controversial that they had to change it?
Liberals
@@roach6992 Nobody complained about the scene, not even liberals. Way more people were upset when George Lucas changed it, something you can easily google.
It’s insane how much better the original is.
I know why the change was made, they didn't want to make Han look like a cold-blooded killer.
I think the 77 one is a bit better and makes more sense. How the hell did greedo miss that shot
It seems the writers didn’t think it was fair that Han shot without giving Greedo time to react, which seems perfectly in character.
Now they gave him a rubberneck.
They couldn't sell toys if the antihero shot first..
Deadpool, oh wait. did I just kill that quy? I'm so sorry.
Also that wall took no damage from Greedo's blaster shot.
Isn't being held at gunpoint and threatened already reason enough for self-defense?
How does greedos bullet bounce off of the wal
Han shot first? Han's the only one who shot.
"Han shot first" is clearly a much more concise way to say "Han shot before Greedo got a chance to pull the trigger".
No matter what Han shot first!
No, in the 1977 version Greedo never shot Han, so it would be impossible for him to shoot first.
I am a firm believer, that in the new version Greedo shot first, and I agree with Nintendo gamer, in the older version, no one shot first
@@supermom543 Greedo threatens Han so it would make sense for Han to shoot, not to mention, there're literally SUBTITLES for alien languages in the 1997 Special Edition so you can know what the fuck is Greedo talking about.
@@supermom543 still first wdym
To add insult to injury, there's not even a mark in the wall after Greedo "shot first." Awful.
The original is the best. Han is the only one who shot! Greedo never shot! Han read the situation better also, it's called a character arc. It's part of Han's journey from anti hero to hero. That's why everyone was pissed about 1 little change to this scene because it's a very important detail!
MACKLUNKEY
Mike Rowe brought me here.
Movie edits we want: Star Wars SC 38 reimagined by FXitinPost
The edits we get:
That SC 38 animation was pretty decent. The music was great, but Darth Vader often moved too fluidly. He is supposed to be more stiff and robotic. Also Darth Vader isn't supposed to run or jog. He is supposed to just walk, or stand waiting menacingly. There are other nitpicks, but for a fan made thing it was pretty cool, certainly better than Greedo shooting first.
the fact we see greedo lift his gun and then han shoots him in the original is enough to completely justifies his actions. there was no need to make te changes here.
Han shot first
1 : Greedo misse his shot
2. Greedo died
Never mind the action - changing the original colour and contrast takes away the goosebumpy, timeless 70mm look that was 90% of Star Wars joy.
It should have never been changed. It shows Solo's progress from being a selfish smuggler to being a real hero. I prefer the original.
They edited it with an action figure Han Solo 😭😭😭😭😭 FSE
Not only did Han shoot "first," Greedo never shot at all. 😂
I really don't understand why it was changed. Spielberg said, or so I have read, that he changed it because he didn't want it to be han fiery first or just killing him, but that seems to imply that he thinks Han is somehow out of line for doing so.
Maybe if it was a law enforcement officer, maybe. In movie lore there is always the line of not killing a cop and the public may not look favorably on a criminal killing a cop unless the cop is corrupt. However, this is a bounty hunter and not even a legal law enforcement bounty. He's just going to take him to a gangster to be killed or frozen in whatever .
So why wouldn't Han be smart and justified in killing him. Sure, Han may have been a little out of line and somehow costing Jabba money, but we don't really have to take that into account.
Hun is perfectly justified in killing him, and not because he was shooting him first. As a matter of fact, as the script is written and first filmed, he is not going to shoot him. We don't know if there is a dead or alive bounty, but probably Jabba wanted him alive so he could make an example of him.
The fact that greedo says I've been looking forward to it when Han says over my dead body is not an indication that he is planning on shooting Han. If he was he would have shot him right away and dragged his body out to claim his bounty.
So, not only does it not make sense that Han would be out of line to shoot him first or to shoot him at all, but also, it really makes no sense that greedo would try to shoot Han unless Han shot him first, and that would make no difference to Hans character development.
I guess if you consider it shooting and missing because he's already been shot by Han and that's why he tried to shoot him anyway, that works. But to try to make the storyline that Han would never shoot first or shouldn't shoot first just makes no sense.
That was the moment i realized how special star wars was, I've NEVER seen a good guy doing anything like this before...
It's sad Lucas destroyed its own legacy...
For me, Solo shot first, that's how I'll always remember.
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One funny thing is that Han simply shooting greedo because greedo is a threat to him, planning on taking him to jabba the Hutt where he will be killed or frozen, is perfectly justified and actually the equivalent of shooting the black clad swordsman in raiders of the Lost ark. If Indy is justified and still a legit hero for shooting a guy because he posed a threat to him and actually a little bit clever and cheeky for doing so unexpectedly, then why can't Han be the cheeky rogish hero for shooting in this case? Shooting someone who is going to take you to mobsters to claim a bounty doesn't require anything further to establish self-defense. I just don't get it.
Sounds like fried bacon when he shoot’s him lol
Don't know why they had to change it, the pont of the scene was to show us that Solo was a 'grey hat'
I think they should have just shown greedos finger in the trigger and have Han shoot first
They really changed it just so they can put the whole “self-defence” moral high ground spin on the scene? Why?
It was already self defence.
George Lucas let his personal moral beliefs get the better of him sometimes. Fore example the Ewoks were added as a political message regarding protesting the Vietnam War.
Why don't they just make a version that show greedo pull down the hammer off his gun for a brief second and then Han shoots.
Look how bad the colours are and how overly sharpened it looks on Disney plus and even that is an improvement to the 2011 blu rays
Did they really have to justify han killing him? Dude threatened him at gun point first
Nobody thought Han was some ruthless death dealer from the original... he was just a badass who had the drop on the enemy. Another casualty of wokism smh
HOLD DE FUQ UP the change was made in 97
They’ve made a ton of changes throughout the years
People feel sympathy for a criminal like greedo. Han did what he had to do to survive in a lawless environment
I thought the bottom was the original at first because of the cheesy effects. But I was wrong.
I remember watching the movie in the theatres when it first came out. I have a first edition VHS release of the original. There is zero chance that Greedo shot at all, let alone first. I don’t understand why Lucas backtracked and made this edit, but the remake was full of shitty interventions. The original was exactly as it should’ve been. Apart from this scene, the other one that makes zero sense is having Jabba the Hutt visit Han before he departs Tatooine. Lucas should’ve just left well enough alone.
Sorry you all got it got it wrong. Han shot third.
Han Shot First
Greedo wouldn't shoot him right there anyway. He already had him at gunpoint. Greedo never took a shot.
Han always shot first. My uncle saw the original in theaters and always wondered why this was such a controversy until I explained the "new editions". The one he saw in theaters shows Greedo never firing a shot.
I don't understand why there are Still so many comments about how - even when it is Clearly shown Han shot first - there needs to be some kind of justification for it -
"Wuh-well, Actually, Greedo was Threatening him so he Had to, even though you don't really know bc of the smoke blast, and and"
Han's not a hero! He's literally a criminal (in a world which is both super oppressed (by the Empire) And super open to criminality)
This doesn't make him the Worst in this universe, but he's almost definitely a murderer (in addition to being a smuggler, etc). That's a part of what makes the Rebel forces even existing exceptional (even though, it's not like the Rebels/'good guys' Aren't responsible for a lot of loss of life - killing is generally a not Good thing! Even when it's 'justified')
You can still like him bc he's 'cool'! He's just not a good guy (in a universe that makes it very difficult for a truly Good person to exist - 'oppressive war state' is usually not a great existence to be in)
Also shooting a guy holding you up at gunpoint saying he's been eagerly waiting to kill you isnt exactly an evil act
They both shot at the same time! The only difference, Han only dodged Greedo's shot. Greedo, on the other hand, didn't have enough time to react.
Maybe greedo shot first but he probabily missed
it's like editing The Godfather. shame shame shame not to mention was this edited in iMovie on a phone? smh
I’m not gonna ruin 100 likes
See I knew it wasnt just me. Modern movies are all greened out and void of color
The change doesnt even fit the scene at all??
The fuck was that?
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Greedo shot first, but he missed. Han shot second and hit his target (from watching the original trilogy on VHS, special edition)
Changing this was a moronic move. he is ment to be *GRAY* ... not black or white like Luke+Vader!
We were never sure if he would help out or not if he was a good person or rather didnt risk his skin for someone he hardly knows...
not ... whatever this crap is. its not even well done i mean god.... leave it alone. Why not add a mustache to famous paintings next?!
I'll bet you have
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Actually there was a 3rd shooter behind a fence on a grassy knoll.
I'm not a fan of Star Wars, but I wanted to know why are people so upset over this? Whenever I have a favorite film, I'm always excited to see additional content, whether it's deleted/extended/alternate scenes. Especially if it makes the movie longer. And plus in this particular scene the outcome was still the same as the original with Han shooting him dead. How is this additional footage a bad thing?
Han shot first. Greedos shot was a reaction thats why the laser missed Han. Otherwise he would of hit him dead center of his chest. Which was justified because he had a blaster pointed at him.
Here is the simplest way to fix this AND justify that Han isn't a cold-blooded killer. Rather than have Greedo say anything or shoot first, have a close-up shot of Greedo's finger NEARLY pulling the trigger. This would be during the part when Han yes "I bet you have" and boom. Cuts back to the original with Greedo collapsing, no head tilt or blaster mark on the wall, Han shoots first. It might sacrifice a bit of Harrison Ford's smug look, but it honestly would be fine because it is such a short scene.
The new one doesn't work it looks lame han pull his gun intending to shot first and now the I'm sure you have bit sucks
Why did Han even move his head😂 totally unnecessary and stupid looking
It's Creepy Looking, that's what it is