Ford Fusion Very Small EVAP Leak P0456
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- In this video I have a look at a 2012 Ford Fusion that is throwing a code P0456 Very Small EVAP Leak. We know one thing for sure it is not the gas cap because it doesn't have one!? Orrrr is it.... -Enjoy!
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Growing up I had a capless filler neck. Usually just stuffed a rag in it. Didn't realize I was ahead of my time!
A rag in place of the cap?? We refer to those as fuses, or Molotov cocktails!! :)
LOL at both ya'll comments, I always kept caps that worked...........
HA! Brought back memories, Robert! People would always ask me why I had a rag sticking out from behind my rear license plate on the ol' '85 Monte Carlo.😂
Molotov cocktail? His name was Vyacheslav Molotov, or "Hammer", he was the Soviet Minister of Foreign Affairs (1939-1949), not a nice guy. In 1939-1940 the gracious Soviet Union invaded Finland. During the Soviet invasion invasion Molotov claimed the Soviet Union was not dropping bombs on Finland, but merely airlifting food to starving Finns. The Finns were not starving, and they dubbed the Soviet cluster bombs "Molotov's bread basket." The Finns also named the improvised incendiary device that they used to counter Soviet tanks, commonly known as the Molotov cocktail, "a drink to go with the food." Thank you Comrade Molotov!
In 1942 Molotov started and headed the Soviet atomic bomb building program in competition with the Manhattan Project. We have Comrade Molotov to thank for the beginnings of Soviet nuclear weapons and that darling Cold War.
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6:38 After that poking Eric gave the old Fusion, no wonder it feels the need to smoke. lol
LOL~~~ bye bye PG
Well, he did say it was his nickname in high school.
😂😂😂
Damn Eric, you took advantage of her car
I had to smoke a cigarette, after this one!!
@@gilbertfranklin1537 at least he used lube. Lol
@@roadkill5333 LMAO
@@roadkill5333 I can't look at my car in the same fashion anymore when I fill it up with fuel
Damn right he did
I am VERY disappointed that a Ford Fusion runs on gasoline rather than deuterium.
False advertising.
It would only work with 1.21jigawatz!!
You must've been thinking of the Ford Fission. Understandable.
@@thebeetalls Nah, the Fission runs on Plutonium or U235
failed fusion? :))
Gas cap's missing. That's your problem lady.
Pro-tip: To prevent this on ALL Ford vehicles equipped with the Capless fuel filler work the gas pump filler gun in and out a few times after you fill up, this will clear any debris holding the door open. Also use compressed air or canned air if you don't have a compressor to blow out the entrance to the filler once every few months or when you wash your car. I have a 2012 Fusion and have never had an EVAP issue with it.
I think the real solution to this is replacing the filler neck with one that comes with a screw on cap.
Also my suggestion.
There is nothing like waking up to a new South Main Auto video
That's South Mian to you!
Ford has a new design for the cap less system and also make sure the spring for the fuel door is keeping the door shut tight. Great videos.
Can’t wait for Ford’s Hoodless Engine System in 2020.
G JACKSON I've been reading in the trade magazines about a wheel-less tire for 2021.
The motorless Automobile is where it’s at…the future is almost here..
Love your humour Eric - The One Handed Wonder, that's what they used to call me in High School. Quality. Thanks for another great video.
As he proceeds to ram that funnel into the car repeatedly. Surprised he didn't use two fingers while he was at it.
We'd love to see the new lift when it's installed.
I know you said boring video but it helps a lot of us out because evap. Leaks are common so testing different components is nice to see .
Ah, South Main Auto, come for the automotive expertise, stay for the commentary. Another great video, thanks Eric!
I love how you try and save your customers some money whenever possible! A rare honest and compassionate mechanic these days!
I already miss the gas filler cap. When I first started driving they were metal and not attached with a cord. You had to remember to put it back on when finished. NAPA sold a lot of caps. :)
Had an old '74 Honda Civic like that, with a filler door. Stopped for gas on a road trip and put the cap on the rear bumper trim panel. Filled up, closed the door and moved on. 350 miles later stopped for gas again, and uh-oh - no gas cap behind the filler door. However it was still sitting on the bumper trim panel. Somehow it stayed there without falling off for 350 miles.
Capless tanks, no transmission dipsticks, CVTs, no drain plugs, auto stop/start and the list goes on. What other “features” will manufacturers add...
I have a diesel with a cap-less fuel filler. I found and purchased a fuel cap.
Don’t leave us hanging like that what lift you buy Eric? 🧐
The cap-less gas tank, the answer to a question no one is asking.
My Renault has one and I like it. Every time I drive a “normal” one (such as on my partners Alfa Romeo) the cap seems very old fashioned and fiddly...
The Renault design is more of an actual flap and can’t get crap in it like that ....
It’s like the concept of turning a cap and pulling it out was too hard for people to understand
On the contrary...it did answer the question of "...what else can we over engineer so we still seem useful to justify our paychecks...."
lets design it so as the tank vacuum increases, the seal is less likely to seal.. CMON MAN! : )
Seriously lol
Fordtechmakuloco is the master of Fords. Brian has excellent content
Best of the best.
Oh yeah, probably my favorite channel to watch. Sad he doesnt upload content often
master is excessive ego swelling, but "good and great" is fitting! as for many others that want to do said work and learn/teach!
Wow jiggle fix good job! I loved this tip thanks! Great Job as always take care.
Great vidjeo. I'd like to see a filler neck replacement too.
I want to see that too 👍🏼
I was told that capless filler necks are to reduce fuel vapors escaping to the atmosphere when refueling. Every time you take the cap off or remove the filler nozzle the vapors escape. With this design the vapors are captured by the gas pump nozzle and it seals quicker when you remove the nozzle. I assume that all filler necks will eventually use this design. Hopefully manufacturers improve the design!
Later in the week the Ford Fusion left its' husband of 15 years and began cohabiting with Mr. Obrochta. At the time of this posting, neither could be reached for comment.
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Atra Hasis We have a winner in the “Comment of Day” category. 😂😂😂
Any comment from Vanessa?
Filler neck job is a pain without a lift. Thanks Eric for the vid, just might save alot of work.
The most annoying thing about modern cars is the engine lights reporting ‘non problems’ in the first place. In the old days this would have gone unnoticed, unfixed and caused no problems to anyone including the lady’s cheque book. What next, a flashing dash light telling you the paint is flaking off the colour coded door mirrors. I’m pretty sure you have better things to do as a mechanic than spray WD40 on sticky filler hinges. Love your channel though Eric, we don’t get enough of this sort of stuff in the United Kingdom. Watching you and listening to your accent is better than the movies.
Same problem for the same car. It should have been a recall (one of many) for this model. Tried the one handed method, and it worked - until next time you got gas. I replaced all 4 feet of the fuel filler neck, since you can't just replace the flap assembly. Later models had an exterior door flap that closed with magnets and kept the dirt out (you are right about this being a N. E. geographical problem). Now find a 2012 Fusion with intermittent air conditioning PROBLEM (blows hot as a heater, and then it's fine). Fix Or Repair Daily.
I’ve had my doubts about those cap less fuel filler systems every since they started using them... Glad to see how to do a quick fix/clean on them
Strange thing is Ford makes a fuel cap as an accessory for the capless system 🤨
Locking Fuel Plug
Part No: 8U5Z-9C268-B
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Geeez... went a bit crazy with the reaming! 😂😂😂
Little reaming, little lubrication fixes almost everything. ... or at least makes some things happier. Lol.
Good diag process as usual. Gotta love modified concepts... the old style gas caps must be too good of engineering, not enough failures or money being made. 😂😂
old ones fail as much but a cap is less expensive heh
@@dinobot_maximize yeah, less than $10 in most cases. I see customers try that all the time when they get a CEL or Service Engine Soon light... Lol. Never is the cap then.... 😂😂
This was a fun one, keep it up man. Love the videos.
That capless fuel system ranks right up there with the sealed transmission ( no dipstick ).
YAAASS!! I looked for HOURS in my car for the dipstick to my transmission fluid... I never found it.
You know it's coming back. Even in Southern Cal, the guys where I used to work replaced them.
I like temperary fix.
Long term fix don’t buy a cap less vehicle
I remember when the cap was part of the fuel door. This was on the 68 Dodge Charger If it was my car I would just replace the complicated one with a regular gas cap. From a older model
Knowing the manufacturers there is probably some kind of sensor or something that ties the filler neck with that car and you would never be able to drive it without the stupid capless neck...lol
Should go back to the cap design and just put a cup of dirt in the glovebox for you to sprinkle into your gas tank every so often. Same thing!
Wait
Why would you put dirt in your gas tank
@@blackfacegaming191 Been a while since I sent this reply, but I think I meant to say go back to cap design, OR sprinkle the dirt into your gas tank, (since there is no cap to keep the dirt out otherwise)
Arby121 lol I gotcha
Ya my gfs about to sel her focus but it’s throwing these codes so I think imma have to visciously penetrate the gas tank with a ton of spray lube like this guy did n hopefully that fixes the code lolol
Thank goodness you didn't have a gross leak. Those are just disgusting. Kinda like what you found in the rear. Keep on keeping on
My wife used to loose the gas cap ALL THE TIME. So I started buying every gas cap off every Volvo redblock that came through the junkyard...12 gas caps and many years later she hasn't lost a single one.
my Skoda has o noose tied to the fill neck and cap
At my office job today....customer walks in at 6:40 and hears “oh baby”. I pressed that pause button so fast....
customer says " what the h%ll you watching"
@@jaredstrehlein5605 South Main Auto. Lol....That is what I'm watching.
"Watching this guy give a car the dildoing of its life."
Busted!
The real ez-fuel system went away in the 1960s. You drove into the service station, rolled down your window, said "ten regular", and you got gas, the windows cleaned, water and oil checked, and tires topped up if needed. Then you paid $3.20 and left. Never had to deal with a gas cap at all.
It didn't go away, in Oregon amd New Jersey no self serve gas.
"It's already 7 yo" :D I wish I get such "old" car ;)
Good job Eric as always :)
Marcin Wojciechowski its new england. Cars are lucky to make it 10 yrs. they rot and are entirely shot from poor roads
Excellent video Dr.0
Love the jokes as always. SHAMOKE IT. I think you got over excited with the emergency funnel. Almost got a Triple XXX rating from Siskel and Ebert. 😲😲
I thought it was "the mystery goo in the trunk" that tipped the censors.
A hunerd years ago I use to have a box on top of the gas pump with all the gas caps for all the caps I found ON TOP OF THE PUMP! It was like take a penny, leave a penny system in the corner store.
Look here "one handed wonder", the way you were working that funnel made me think I was watching videos from an entirely different website. I seriously laughed out loud several times. Good to know though considering we have a capless filler neck in our household, and it's not mine.
Gotta keep that seal on the fuel door clean. I have never had a problem with mine over the last 10 years
Failed lock on the filler vent flap. The fuel vent should only open with a fuel nozzle or the included fuel funnel. Opening it with a finger is a clear sign the fuel flap lock has failed. The code will be back. Replacement of the entire filler neck is common on this capless system. Poor design.
Coffee and a SMA upload...great way to start my day!...Wiggling the jiggly bits on a ford...not a sponsor. I think I can hear the ocean!...lol
I'm not sure but I think I just watched automotive soft porn 🤣🤣🤣 good job buddy
That did not look like the soft kind, lol. There was full penetration.
Those 20 Amp battery maintainers are a nice addition to your tool box. I enjoyed the video.
I’m really enjoying this channel since I subscribed. You are a excellent mechanic and diagnostician!
Danny Rumbles you won’t be disappointed! Eric is a master mechanic and a even better human!
have a fusion...same code. shop said it was charcoal canister...smoke test ect...wanted thousands...I replaced the purge valve and fixed it....known problems with the capless tanks on those cars
Thanks for the guffaw!
That's what they called me in high school! 😂
New gas caps are such a pain. Now Hondoo uses them. This cap subs for a headache.
Not safe for work, flagged and reported
:P
The funnel goo got to ya, didn't it?? Lol
Astro Tools How about sponsoring Mr O. I bought a couple lights Love them. Yeah
You were having too much fun with that emergency funnel!!
I think you uploaded this video to the wrong site Eric 😂
re-lol
"The ol' one-handed wonder here"
"That's what they used to call me in high school"
*Proceeds to funnel-jam her tank*
Nothing like Funnel Banging the car for a fix! good job Eric.
Another good info video Eric O.. I agree what a garbage design. What will they think of next. Maybe we don't want to know. Thanks Eric. 👍👍👍
Next up you'll have to call the EPA a month in advance of refueling your car for them to send you a hazmat kit that you have to park your vehicle in prior to refueling and then have the EPA come out and verify that no liquids were released into the atmosphere while you were refueling before you can move your car. This will cost you $1,000 per fill-up
Don’t give them any ideas 😂🤣
This was, strangely, one of the more violent episodes I've seen yet. I was less scared when the bearing puller went flying. I may need counseling. Or another beer. Yeah, all good now. :D
goo in corner of trunk was the spilled "walter white" chemicals, now you'll wrench like a hummingbird for the next 3 days :))
I recently bought a 2010 Ford Escape with that cap-less system, I actually thought it was a pretty cool feature. Seems plenty reliable to me, 9 years old and no codes. As for the usefulness, anything that can save some hassle when I'm filling my car up in a freezing cold Canadian winter seems like a win to me. And there does appear to be an outer sealing gasket on mine to keep the dust out when the door is closed, so I'm not worried about dust or dirt getting in there.
I gave you the thumbs up. But I do like the convenience of my capless fuel filler on the Focus!
i have a 2018 civic like that but honda as great as they are put a cup like thing on the fuel door so when u close it it seals around the neck to keep it clean maybe ford should of that of that
I'm just curious how many employees do you have?. You have saved me tons of money with these vids and I have made a little bit of money. Lol. Thank you for sharing your vids. Have a great day 👍👍
I worked for ford as a tech from 2001-2016 and thought the cap less system was totally not needed! Have had a ton of issues with those necks!! Then 2 years ago I purchased a 2015 f150 that has a cap less neck and I hate to admit that I actually really like it
Aside from cleaning and replacing the filler neck have you come across any diy gasket or plugs to help seal the system? My 09 F150 P0442. Thanks for any feedback.
@@Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt hey brother in my experience your code p0442 could be caused by multiple things inside of your evap system, cleaning the cap less neck is just the most common and least expensive thing to attack first unfortunately if that didn’t solve the issue the next step is to have the system smoke tested to determine where your leak is, there are other components that fail in that system but any of those would just be a guess on my part. Hope this helps you.
@@notchback93 thanks so much for replying. Gonna do as you suggest abs smoke test…make sense as it will save me money and time.
Ford thinks it's a Subaru vaping like that. 😀
Is there a way to convert it back to a gas cap? Man I hate the way cars are going.
Love that discussion with the customer, and the way you offer explanation and choice. Some professionals seem to tick the box with the highest cost, in the self interest of fewer callbacks.
Mr. O says that the 2010 Fusion will be in the crusher at 14 years...I have a 2012 Fusion and hope I can get 14+ years out of it. I love this car and want it to last as long as possible!!
What's the long term fix? Get rid of that vehicle and buy a brand new one... Isn't that called engineered obsolescence?
That filler neck never stood a chance 😂 I wonder if you could put and older neck on with a cap and that would save the trouble of maintaining it so it seals.
Does it have to be a plastic funnel? Will there be an issue if someone were to use a flexible rod? Asking for a friend :)
I haven't had any trouble with my 2014 focus' or 2011 Taurus' capless system, probably because when I noticed it was getting difficult to insert the filler funnel(I use fuel system cleaners occasionally) I sprayed the system down with lube and gave it a good funneling. On a different but related note, the hinge that holds the fuel door popped out if its socket and I had to spend an hour pulling carpet and foam out of my trunk and reaching into a blind hole just to get the damn door assembly off, then screw and super glue the hinge pin in place. The whole thing was made of plastic of course. Why they couldn't they just put the door on with a few screws accessible from outside of the car?
I miss the old South Mian Auto... 😏
Great video. I own a 2012 Ford Fusion SEL andnd I purchased a fuel plug and it helps keep the fuel port clean. Also, when washing the car it helps to wash the area inside fuel door which helps to cut down on dirt accumulation.
You legend another good video of you thrusting plastic parts into holes :)
Four post lift? Alignment machine? You make the big money don't you? 😇 If I could I would help you put it in. Keep going you are doing a great service. 🌞
Nice fix!
Lasted 7 years with no problems and you consider it a useless and dumb design? I understand is not better than the cap system.
My car is a 1992 and the cap still seals fine. No need to reinvent the wheel.
I love it when the smoke machine fires up.
I live in Central Florida. My F-150 has had the same issue with the capless system. It's just a poor design.
See this comment is 2 years old but wanted to ask. Having the same issues with my 09 code P0442. Aside from cleaning have you come across any diy fix or just have the entire filler neck replaced? Did you reset the check engine light with a scan tool or did the light go out on its own after clearing? Thanks
I've always wondered about the quality of those capless fuel systems... I've owned two cars with this system, and haven't had any issues - but I also haven't owned either of those cars for more than 4 years.
Scotty would use a different lube and something else to stroke that flap....
Probably wouldn't have fixed it though as he'd have been done in a few seconds!! ;)
And blew spittle all over it while yelling.
@@misterhat5823 Hahahahahahahahahaahaahaaa........
For years I struggled with how to get that gas cap off. I would always have to ask the attendant to assist me. It made me feel like..... an ASS!
Gimmicks, lol, aaah, sometimes they work and probably a lot more don't, or at least not very well.
Don't know if you've been reading about my power drain dilemma. But, for some reason, after finding the voltage when testing across the fuse, and I don't think I mentioned it , but I'm pretty sure I pulled the fuse. But maybe 15-30 secs. later, the locking mechanism engaged and maybe 20 secs. later the locking mechanism engaged again. Ever since I have had a power drain and there's no drag in the starter as before.
I just started thinking of all the things that are activated when locking and unlocking. The locks, the signal lights, the horn, and the timer for if you don't pull on a door handle after unlocking through the fob. Hopefully ok, my only guess is somehow it may have reset itself. What's that saying? 'Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, lol. KOW, it seems to be ok, at least for now. I've been keeping an eye on the rear tires and your alignment seems to be working great. Thanks so much and thanks for sharing.
Tampa Florida have the same thing. We have sand and sea salt. Another fun day to fix the manufacturer's engineering mistakes 🤪🤪🤪
Yesssss! A video of the lift install would be cool to see, as some else mentioned on here. Great video though, didn't think those seals would rejuvenate themselves with a little spray of fluid film, WD-40 etc.👍🏼
Thank you!!!
Eric you violated that car hard hahaha
I have been putting up with this issue since I bought by 2012 Fusion used in early 2013. Got a scan tool just for clearing the check engine light. It's the only reason my light has come on every few months. I know it's the EVAP leak because the light sets as soon as you turn the key and the engine runs fine. Load up on WD-40 and keep the filler area clean.
"I think I can hear the ocean" 😂😂
thats a 'she-wee' not the emergency funnel, look it up, might wanna wash hands
I remember seeing the she wee or stand & go on those Alaska shows. It does look well used. I think I saw a metal one right behind that one. I think most people know gas burns sensitive orifices. The 1 liners. Great arm action you closed the gap in less than 30 seconds. Or you are fast aren't your. Another satisfyed customer. Never have to much lube. That's what she said. EZ fill. Well us Americans are lazy and love to simplify. Someday they will simplify the condom. Then we would have even more stupid people running around. My niece had a baby shirt that said my mom should of swallowed. Sometimes that is true. But then we wouldn't have stripers now would we.
Looks like the funnels they give you on the car. Not 100% because mine is gone but that’s what it’s supposed to look like.
oh dear....
That one in the video is definitely a funnel prob for coolant or whatever it seemed like it had a thick substance on it. My pee funnel has a thin like long opening. We cant just pee through a little hole it'll get everywhere
Exactly what I was thinking 😂😂😂
6:00 I love this guy he is hilarious
Eric I am surprised Ford hasn't updated this problem with the filler neck because I have a F150 with the same problem or make it a recall
2 words describe the manufacturer move to "easy fill" gas holes. "Revenue Stream!"
you know, it's hard to beat plain old gasoline when cleaning them. in fact, just use the pump nozzle...
Imagine that Ford having a bad idea.I hope your new lift is in soon.
Cap less fuel tank hum maybe it's time make a cork to fit. I guess the E check wouldn't even know since they don't need to check the cap. I'm going to assume other mechanics would just quote for a new filler neck and continue their burn on those unaware. Nice to know there's still good people out here. Thanks for the knowledge.