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It's the last WE will see of Narnia. I don't put Lewis on much of a pedestal, but I put him a heck of a lot higher up than I do Netflix. I'd just as soon see a North Korean interpretation as a Netflix interpretation.
Nah, it will be woke curse. Nothing good can come from Netflix original series. And no, every anime that they claim is a Netflix original is not, they didn't make it, they just distribute it.
@@auggiejaime3820 nope. If you read the series, she is an agent of evil. In the last battle Tash, the evil deity, is shown. That is the evil. Jadis is a half Djinn. Which is in our world are noted as evil spirits of the desert. Servents of evil.
@@chrissyclark7836 I read that book recently and realized that Tash is the narnian version of Satan. Jadis is only a servant of evil and I think after she died she went to Tash's country for eternal torment
@@auggiejaime3820 Considering that C.S. Lewis was a devout Christian who used the Chronicles of Narnia as Christian allegory, that interpretation is more spot on than you think.
@@savannahhague4989 I doubt it. It was said that the kings and queens were good people, but later on each monarch was worse than the last. Their great grandfather even killed hundreds of nobles because he believed they had "thoughts of rebelling"
@@oluwadamilola6233she said that the deplorable word can kill all living thing but the caster, period And the world of Charn doesnt share the same universe with Narnia and Earth, as the very essence of magic in this reality is different, Jadis cant use her magic in other dimensions So she didnt destroy physically her universe, but she destroyed all life in a universal scale
I honestly wish they had made The Magician's Nephew into a movie before redoing The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. I think this backstory and creation of Narnia are so overwhelmingly important to understanding Jadis and her motives and the long history that her and Aslan shared.
So true. It would certainly help to set the scene. Otherwise, people will wonder what the Lamp-post was doing in Lantern Waste. If one has read TMN, one knows the answer. And a film of TMN could explain that, very easily.
@@JamesMC04 People wondered for 6 years after TLTW&TW was published, it works fine as a mystery, or an odd detail. I'm not certain that Lewis himself knew until he wrote TMN.
@@MagusMarquillin I'd agree with that, I'm seeing a lot of continuity issues. In The Lion Witch & Wardrobe, Jadis is the Emperor's hangman and descended from giants and djinns but in The Magician's Nephew, she's just a queen from another world. In the LWW, the Stone Table is a mystical relic of Deep Magic from the Dawn of Time, but it's not even mentioned anywhere else. Father Time is destined to wake up and bring about the end of the world in The Last Battle, you'd think he'd have more of a backstory.
@@asbaran We could probably assume that's the case, since her magic didn't work the same in Narnia or Earth as it didn't in Charn, and she basically had to "relearn" Narnian magic. However, the books never mention whether or not she tried to use it in Narnia or if she would have been able to do so.
@@deborahcapuano1223 No ,she wasn't - though there is a female character in the story..... ( Which I won't divulge - as a spoiler!) I can't recommend the Narnia chronicles enough - I've read all 7 books many times - so beautifully written ,so magical......
I've always loved how strange and eerie and mysterious Jadis' backstory and world were. A bizarre and unique part of Narnian lore. I just wish C.S. Lewis had explored other worlds that could be accessed from the Wood between the Worlds in other books. Charn itself would have been an epic, if tragic, story. But what other worlds could Lewis have dreamt up?
I’m so glad that thanks to you, there’s videos out there for Narnian history and legends like the ones made aboutThe Lord Of The Rings! C.S Lewis’s fantastic world building deserves more attention and I really hope Netflix does it Justice.
Totally agree. Narnia is much richer and deeper than people assume--the details are just more subtle so you really just have to look for it. I think a Netflix series is the perfect vehicle for these books.
I did reread the books halfway through now. And there’s something no one ever mentioned. Narnian magic have a very specific rule that is consistent in both movies and the books. The rule of « never twice the same way » I would almost compare it to the law of surprise from the Witcher. For example; the first time we hear about it is when Jadis creat the turkish delights. When Edmund ask for more she say’s that the magic wouldn’t work twice at the same place but that if he come to her castle she can do it again. Then it is implied again when Aslan mention the tear in space/time leading to Narnia from the wardrobe he say’s that after they leave it’ll close and that they won’t comeback to Narnia from there bc « never twice the same way » It is also implied in Dawn Treader when they meet the magician and the little mushroom ppl that turned themselves invisible. Lucy ask why the little girl who read the spell that turned them invisible can’t do it once more. And he doesn’t exactly say she can’t but that she shouldn’t and won’t.
Yes, I believe I mentioned that portals seem to stay open for a short period of time. It was the professor who advised Lucy that things didn't happen the same way twice.
@@alan62036 enchanted items seem to remain magic up to a certain time in our world. For example the rings. Although like the wardrobe, they eventually lost their powers. It’s almost like enchantments condensed magic unto an item. As oppose to a spell which draw upon the ambiant energies. Maybe that’s why you "shouldn’t" do it twice the same way. Maybe it draws on the literal life force of anything around you so by doing it repeatedly you risk damaging, destroying or killing everything that surrounds you.
I still laugh at the fact that digory's uncle is still in love with Jadis. Even as an old man, he remembers and wants to be with her. Even though she beat him up and told him he would be her personal slave.
I am sure many people have speculated what the cost for the "Deplorable Word" was. I think these are the best options: A: She would lose the ability to have children B: She would lose the ability to love ( Or in other words, lose all good within her heart) Or the most likely C: She literally lost her Soul. (Kind of an obvious one, which might also cause option B: to occur as well but whatever) Or who knows maybe it was all three?
Or my theory that I keep repeating... she blew 20 guys tops. Far fetched I know but truth has been stranger IN fiction. I like you theory more. The deplorable word is extraordinary retarded tho. Like to use it you would have to go Full Retard. Why kill ever single being but yourself? Such an Edge Lord move tbh anyways I’m getting carried away. I think in the Witcher that if they become barren they gain access to more magic? Like when Yenneefer got her ovaries taken.
All 3.. In several myth and legends across world literature it is a common theme when a woman does a “unspeakable sin” when they lose their soul, they lose the ability to give life because not having a soul means they have lost the ability to fully embrace life. They also lose their humanity because they no longer carry empathy or compassion in their hearts anymore. Because in losing their soul.. They lose their heart with it.
@@Carrionangel8911 which is kind of weird in that a lot of women genuinely dont want children. thats why im not sure thats the answer, she was a tyrannical ruler who wouldnt have anyone to concieve a child with after speaking the deplorable word and she was so self-obsessed that i doubt she imagined a scenario where shed die and leave behind a child anyway. i think that part of her story is meant to represent the same thing that her stealing and eating one of the apples in the narnia did, rebeliion at the cost of an enjoyable life. basically god saying "ok you can be powerful but you arent allowed to be happy about it anymore"
I think that your analysis is correct. I would add that the price for learning the Deplorable Word was also probably, that she lost the ability to empathise. Also that she condemned for all eternity to be malignantly narcissistic, to be completely consumed by her fantasies, her desires, her wishes and her wants. That she lost the ability to show altruism and compassion.
Can i just say a netflix show about the White witch and the fall of charn would be sooooo cool they could even show her having visions of the pools of worlds in the magicians nephew and her destroying all of them - would soo chilling- then end it with her awakening with the bell
I wouldn’t trust Netflix to create an adaption of Jadis, especially with so little material. I mean, most of Netflix adaptions are really really terrible. I wouldn’t even trust Amazon either, look what they did to the wheel of time and the rings of power.
Well, I’m surprised and impressed to have seen this video! Congrats on making this Narnia channel, since as a faithful Christian, I have been looking at the lore of the book series by CS Lewis. Thank you for this informative video, and I expect more great videos in the future.
Well, damn. All the times I've read The Magician's Nephew over the years and I never spotted the Garden of Eden comparison in Jadis stealing a forbidden apple from the magic garden before. How did I miss such an obvious reference?
I remember that as soon as I learned to read I’ve read narnia, and even though I couldn’t understand the symbolisms and hidden themes I always felt intrigue by Jadis. Great work! 1000/10
"Physically assaulting people, robbing a jewelry store, evading police, and declaring her intentions to conquer England and annihilate London." you forgot swallowing gum.
We just introduced our kids to the books and movies. It has reawakened our love of Narnia and Lewis' world. I am so glad to have found this channel! Thank you for the hard work you are doing here👏👏
Wow! Great starter! White Witch was always one of the more mysterious characters, and this puts a lot of perspective on when I read the books ages ago XD Thanks for the video!
This Tree of Protection was the one thing that protected everyone from Jadis but none of the other books really mentioned what happened to it. If it was just blown down by the wind, that would be so anticlimactic
Think when Aslan was talking about people in our world learning secrets as destructive as the deplorable word, he was talking about the atrocities of WW1 and WW2 (since 'The Magician's Nephew was set in 1900), or was he talking about the atom bomb which was one of the biggest fears of the time when Lewis was writing the books?
@@KopperNeoman you mean C.S. Lewis's ignorance of nukes. Then again this was around he time of or just before the time of 'duck and cover' where people seemed to think that that would protect you from a nuke blast, so ignorance of nukes was fairly common back then I guess
As of this post, the world is on the brink of destruction with the conflicts in Ukraine, Israel, and Korea. Aslan warned that one day, great nations would be ruled by tyrants who care no more for joy and justice and mercy than the Empress Jadis.
I remember reading the chronicles of Narnia and was its own universe it wasn't like Alice in wonderland or Harry Potter it was fasinating I always thought there was something really strange about the white witch it seemed like when they killed her she kept coming back to life and now I know it's cause she ate the fruit but what is even crazier that the writers added is how some how she's a decendent of Lilith the first woman who rebeled against god, I love that she and the lion came face to face when Narnia was barely forming that's crazy because that just means she's an ancient, ancient witch. She must have had unimaginable amounts of power in her universe/ home world I would definitely watch a movie about Jadis without the whole Narnia stuff.
She somewhat reminds me of Morathi, or Morathi-Khaine now. Both unloving and evil beings to the core. Selfish, powerful and cares not for their own kin. Also incredibly bad ass!
It's interesting how Lewis premised the Narnia lore on the idea of what we might call the 'multiverse' theory. I see this as Lewis marrying his love of both fantasy and science fiction into a single field of his creative imagination. For those who are not as familiar with Lewis' sci fi interest, prior to the publication of the Narnia Chronicles, he had published a triad of science fiction books known as "The Space Trilogy".
There is a story that lewis and tolkien challanged each other to write a challange. Space and time travel. Lewis got space, tolkien time. Lewis created his space stories, but tolkien never managed to finish 'the long road.'
@@taqresu5865 no doubt. But he presented it to the world in a very abstract way. He always put Jesus at the front in Aslan. He emphasized the 'deep magic' with its rules, can be an allusion to science and the role God played in it. He is always vague about the emperor over the Sea, aka God. He has a rather English circa 1920 view of Islam. (Poor. Islam like Christianity has to be fitered to understand Mohammeds messeges) But he was a thinking persons Christian. The whole barren world of Char has a very scientific aspect. As does the wood between the world. Its not just blind faith It made me think at 9 years old. I am not a Christian anymore, but I do have a deep belief and respect that if there is a God, science is his rules and we simply are learning them like a child.
@@chrissyclark7836 Abstract yes, but it's still very obvious. Jesus used many allegories in His teachings. Those who aren't followers in Christ do not understand the spiritual reality around us, so allegories are key to understand what material people do not. Aslan here represents Christ as God, like the Bible portrays Him. Part of the Holy Trinity: Father, Spirit, Son. All equally God, and Eternal. Like Aslan, Jesus was present for Eternity Past, even during Creation. I don't know why you brought up the False Prophet Mohammed, though.
@@taqresu5865 the Calmorenes were a take on muslims. But 1920s british upbringing was not kind to non Christians. But he does make a point in the Last battle when Aslan states that anyone that does good is brought to him. Implying that even good Muslims will be brought to the right place. I don't see the dogmatic trinity in Lewis writing. He clearly states his "Father over the Sea". I think his take was more Jesus as the son. Many Christians do not subscribe to the trinity, as there is no historical references to it in the new testament until after it was added in during translations. In fact the whole Narnia universe is about introducing spirituality without any Christian dogma. Just good and evil and a LIon saying find me in your world.
I’ve read all the books several times both as a child and as an adult! I reread them after seeing “The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe” when it first came out in theaters!
The terrible price is the inability to feel remorse, sorrow and empathy. Without those things, repentance can never be achieved because those things are the path towards repentance. Once you are prepared to destroy the lives of others and the world for your own selfishness you've crossed the point of no return. Once you've realized you are prepared to do such a thing feelings of empathy, sorrow or remorse have no place in your soul. For a soul to be void of such things, you can never belong to any form of existence for we as a species need those emotions for our existence.
This is such a great channel it do its research and the narason is clear and makes sense. I love learning about deep lore of books I loved as a kid and as an adult. I hope this channel grows huge. Hard work pays off. Keep up the good work.
We first meet Jadis, not in the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, but in the Magician's Nephew, which is chronologically the first of the Narnia books.
But I'm seeing a lot of continuity issues. In The Lion Witch & Wardrobe, Jadis was the Emperor's hangman and descended from giants and djinns but in The Magician's Nephew, she's just a queen from another world.
@@Waltham1892 so now, the question is whether she has Narnian giant blood or alien giant blood. Or if she was the Emperor's Hangman, then does she have giant blood from Aslan's country ?
Jadis is the most interesting character. Especially good in the performance of Barbara Kellerman in the adaptation of the BBC. It's too bad there wasn't a movie for The Wizard's Nephew. By the way, it was interesting when Jadis, having heard Aslan's singing during the creation of Narnia, said something like that her fate overtook her (I don’t remember verbatim). But from these words it seemed as if she already knew how their confrontation would end. It's funny, even before reading the Wizard's Nephew, I had a dream that she was in our world. I asked her if we were going to take over the world or if she wanted to do something else. She said: of course take over the world. And I tried to play for time to figure out how to send her to Narnia, because I knew that if we were to take over the world together, I would have to share power with her. I didn’t want to, XD.)
@@johnfeather6476 The gauntlet requires six incredibly difficult to find stones, and kills all but the strongest of wielders with its power. You need only SPEAK the Deplorable Word.
@@johnfeather6476 deplorable word killed every living thing in the her universe besides her. That just how awfull the deplorable word is, you kill everything leaving you alone in the entire universe. A prize befitting only to those evil enough to speak it.
Just discovered your channel; I absolutely love it! The Magician's Nephew was the very first Narnia book I ever read (when I was about 9 or so I think). It still is my favourite. It's closer to science fiction than any of the others. It's also has a special place, alongside "The Horse and His Boy" as being written out of chronology by Lewis.
That's a fantastic idea! between talking beasts, non talking animals, mythological creatures, spiritual beings, etc. That one could be a whole miniseries. Thanks so much for the idea.
This was the first video from you that I watched and I immediately subscribed. Fantastic work! Thank you for providing a very thorough video about Jadis!
Diggory took the fruit to his sick mother. She ate the fruit and recovered. Diggory planted the seeds in the corner of his backyard. The tree grew big and strong and was cut down and the wood was made into a wardrobe. Hence the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
That moment when you realize that the white witch needed to come back in the last Battle, if only to round out the series and bring the whole story of Narnia to come full circle.
Great observation. Technically it was not an allegory according to Lewis (that's actually a topic for a future episode), but yes, it was a parallel to the atomic bomb. Jadis' years of research led to discovery of the dark secret magic, much like the exploration of science led to the atomic discovery. Aslan gives a sober warning at the end of the Magician's Nephew: "It is not certain that some wicked one of your race will not find out a secret as evil as the Deplorable Word and use it to destroy all living things. And soon, very soon, before you are an old man and an old woman, great nations in your world will be ruled by tyrants who care no more for joy and justice and mercy than the Empress Jadis. Let your world beware. That is the warning."
@@IntotheWardrobe Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. It’s been a while since I’ve read these books as a kid and it’s cool to see them from a different viewpoint now.
@@calebee4205 I still wonder why she was unable to do magic while on Earth. So far the only concrete theory I have is that God does write the rules of the world and whatever limits he has made for earth also apply to any foreign creature that goes to earth.
I believe it may be that she needed time to learn earth magic. Aslan talks about how in Narnia she would spend her time in exile learning and growing in dark magic. The rules and techniques must be different in each universe, and must be re-learned.
@@IntotheWardrobe Lewis literally referred about Hitler and other tyrants of the Second World War era with that quote and when I was a child and read these books it went right over my head. I just realized that this is a parallel to the atomic bombs and a warning about how history repeats
Did you know that the 'eternal winter' of Narnia was based off of Fimbulvinter from Norse Mythology, which is a winter that lasts three seasons (or years- it varies depending on the text and my memory is foggy at the moment) before Ragnarök.
Very well done I have always been fascinated by Charn's history and Jadis' story. While we know of her from Narnia and beyond but knowing more of her and Charn was interesting. Do you think Jadis' winter was the cause of the tree of protection dying?
Great job! I knew everything from the original Chronicles, but you did a deep dive to get stuff from between leaving Aslan's Garden and conquering Narnia. Looking forward to part 2. =) Got anything on the Green Witch from The Silver Chair? I'd love to know more about her.
If you have the time to respond, would you please tell me where you acquired the amazing artworks. I would love to see Illustrations of that capacity for a re-published book series of the Chronicles of Narnia.
So jadis: • Can gain access to magic in multiple worlds • Is stated to be " inherently evil " by Aslan • Has superhuman natural abilities If humans are referred to as " sons of Adam " and " daughters of eve " when they never existed in narnia...does Aslan plan for worlds to interact with each other? And why?
I found this video because I suddenly remembered part of a story we read in school. Something about ringing a bell and some very tall woman awakens. Something about green pools and yellow pools that transport people. Something about a word that would destroy entire worlds. I never read any of these books, but it still stands out as one of the few stories I remember from school. I had to google these vague terms because I had no idea what book it was from. It's strange how we can remember such insignificant details after so many decades.
Another definitive study ! CS Lewis had a lifelong love of the children's stories of Edith Nesbit ( 1858 - 1924 ) , paying tribute to her in his spiritual autobiography Surprised by Joy. He paid further tribute by borrowing various elements including the Queen of Babylon from the The Story of the Amulet which he turned into Queen Jadis. Striking, significant and extensive correlation.
I have often wondered. Was Jadis' sister in the right? We can be most certain that Jadis' version of events is not the true events since she most likely told her story in a "favorable" light. Was Jadis' sister a reformer who wanted to "Make Charn Great Again." Or was she just Jadis 2.0.
@@charlessapp1835 She's basically exactly the same as Jadis and the rest of Charn's population only Jadis is much worse given she destroyed her entire universe with the deplorable word and the royal family made vows to never speak it under any circumstances
Glad you like the videos! Most of it is fan art from sites like Artstation, etc, and some of it I have photoshopped from multiple sources. I try to credit all artists in the video description.
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It's the last WE will see of Narnia. I don't put Lewis on much of a pedestal, but I put him a heck of a lot higher up than I do Netflix. I'd just as soon see a North Korean interpretation as a Netflix interpretation.
Eva Green would be a good casting for Jadis
Nah, it will be woke curse. Nothing good can come from Netflix original series. And no, every anime that they claim is a Netflix original is not, they didn't make it, they just distribute it.
I love how instead of a tragic backstory, we find out that this lady was evil from the get go.
Jadis is basically the Narnian version (or in this case Charn's version) of satan because she's the pure embodiment of evil.
@@auggiejaime3820 nope. If you read the series, she is an agent of evil.
In the last battle Tash, the evil deity, is shown. That is the evil. Jadis is a half Djinn. Which is in our world are noted as evil spirits of the desert. Servents of evil.
@@chrissyclark7836 I read that book recently and realized that Tash is the narnian version of Satan. Jadis is only a servant of evil and I think after she died she went to Tash's country for eternal torment
@@auggiejaime3820 and possibly the Tardis 'bigger on the inside' is an homage to Aslans country.
@@auggiejaime3820 Considering that C.S. Lewis was a devout Christian who used the Chronicles of Narnia as Christian allegory, that interpretation is more spot on than you think.
I wouldn't mind watching a movie about Jadis, her sister, and Charn. Seems so interesting
I'm hoping the Netflix series will draw this out in more depth! It could be an entire season itself!
@@IntotheWardrobe and then the original narnia story? More bloody and akin to something like.. game of thrones maybe 👀👀
I wonder if Jadis' sister was actually the better monarch compared to her.
Seems primed for a Wicked-esque flipped perspective treatment - the white witch is just misunderstood and Narnia is racist actually lol
@@savannahhague4989 I doubt it. It was said that the kings and queens were good people, but later on each monarch was worse than the last. Their great grandfather even killed hundreds of nobles because he believed they had "thoughts of rebelling"
That woman destroyed an entire universe with a single word, thought it was boring and went to the next
She was literally the evil incarnate
And she was immortal.
I read it like Ollivander lol
Was it her entire universe, or just that planet?
Universe? It was a planet 🙃 and she only destroyed the living thing's,the building and mountains etc were untouched
@@oluwadamilola6233she said that the deplorable word can kill all living thing but the caster, period
And the world of Charn doesnt share the same universe with Narnia and Earth, as the very essence of magic in this reality is different, Jadis cant use her magic in other dimensions
So she didnt destroy physically her universe, but she destroyed all life in a universal scale
I honestly wish they had made The Magician's Nephew into a movie before redoing The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. I think this backstory and creation of Narnia are so overwhelmingly important to understanding Jadis and her motives and the long history that her and Aslan shared.
So true. It would certainly help to set the scene. Otherwise, people will wonder what the Lamp-post was doing in Lantern Waste. If one has read TMN, one knows the answer. And a film of TMN could explain that, very easily.
@@JamesMC04 People wondered for 6 years after TLTW&TW was published, it works fine as a mystery, or an odd detail. I'm not certain that Lewis himself knew until he wrote TMN.
@@MagusMarquillin That would make a lot of sense.
@@MagusMarquillin I'd agree with that, I'm seeing a lot of continuity issues. In The Lion Witch & Wardrobe, Jadis is the Emperor's hangman and descended from giants and djinns but in The Magician's Nephew, she's just a queen from another world. In the LWW, the Stone Table is a mystical relic of Deep Magic from the Dawn of Time, but it's not even mentioned anywhere else. Father Time is destined to wake up and bring about the end of the world in The Last Battle, you'd think he'd have more of a backstory.
@steel ratana BBC had done it before. Wasn't the best adaptation since it was very low budget.
How Jadis discovered the Deplorable Word still gives me chills:
“She learned it in a secret place and paid a terrible price to learn it.”
I don't even want to know the details here...but I bet it's worse than I could imagine.
If I remember correctly, the deplorable word only worked in Charn didn't it? It didn't work when she tried to use it in Narnia.
@@asbaran Yes I believe you’re right
@@asbaran We could probably assume that's the case, since her magic didn't work the same in Narnia or Earth as it didn't in Charn, and she basically had to "relearn" Narnian magic. However, the books never mention whether or not she tried to use it in Narnia or if she would have been able to do so.
@@asbaran your right, I think?
I’ve said it once, and I’ll say it again. Tilda Swinton was the perfect actress for her
That lady could scare ugly off an ape.
But, she is very funny, watch her in 'What happens in the dark."
I like the voice actress from the Focus on the Family audio drama best.
@@craiga2002 *what we do in the shadows
@@charlessapp1835 the w h a t
Yes
Jadis in Charn really did a "If I can't have it, no one can" and MEANT IT
Well done, my friend!
Thanks for the advice you gave me on this one. I think adding the characters inside of the circles really helps communicate better.
CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien would be proud of the two of you
Yesss
So was The Silver Chair's Green Witch Jadis reincarnated?
@@deborahcapuano1223 No ,she wasn't - though there is a female character in the story..... ( Which I won't divulge - as a spoiler!)
I can't recommend the Narnia chronicles enough - I've read all 7 books many times - so beautifully written ,so magical......
Sounds like the perfect marriage candidate for Sauron. Though she would probably be as loyal a wife, as Saruman was an ally.
Ha! Star-crossed lovers!
the queen of winter with the king of doomed fire? not sure they get that well along.
Sauron would find her distasteful and treat her more like a pet.
I always imagined Middle Earth and Narnia to be alternate universes in the same world
@@AS-ri1mb Arda is supposed to be the Earth a long time ago but Narnia is another world entirely.
I've always loved how strange and eerie and mysterious Jadis' backstory and world were. A bizarre and unique part of Narnian lore. I just wish C.S. Lewis had explored other worlds that could be accessed from the Wood between the Worlds in other books. Charn itself would have been an epic, if tragic, story. But what other worlds could Lewis have dreamt up?
I’m so glad that thanks to you, there’s videos out there for Narnian history and legends like the ones made aboutThe Lord Of The Rings! C.S Lewis’s fantastic world building deserves more attention and I really hope Netflix does it Justice.
Totally agree. Narnia is much richer and deeper than people assume--the details are just more subtle so you really just have to look for it. I think a Netflix series is the perfect vehicle for these books.
Hi
Always thought it was funny how Jadis destroyed her universe simply by dropping the F bomb
When I was a child, saying the F bomb in front of my parents would destroy my world too.
That's not what she said.
@@spencerfrankclayton4348 I see Jadis also petrified your sense of humor
@@andrewsartduchy7721
ouch AHAHAHAAHHA
No no no she clearly said
Amogus.
I did reread the books halfway through now. And there’s something no one ever mentioned.
Narnian magic have a very specific rule that is consistent in both movies and the books. The rule of « never twice the same way » I would almost compare it to the law of surprise from the Witcher.
For example; the first time we hear about it is when Jadis creat the turkish delights. When Edmund ask for more she say’s that the magic wouldn’t work twice at the same place but that if he come to her castle she can do it again.
Then it is implied again when Aslan mention the tear in space/time leading to Narnia from the wardrobe he say’s that after they leave it’ll close and that they won’t comeback to Narnia from there bc « never twice the same way »
It is also implied in Dawn Treader when they meet the magician and the little mushroom ppl that turned themselves invisible. Lucy ask why the little girl who read the spell that turned them invisible can’t do it once more. And he doesn’t exactly say she can’t but that she shouldn’t and won’t.
What a FANTASTIC observation! It is something I'd like to use in the script I'm working on now. Thank you!
Lucy uses the wardrobe at least 3 times
Yes, I believe I mentioned that portals seem to stay open for a short period of time. It was the professor who advised Lucy that things didn't happen the same way twice.
@@IntotheWardrobe Could be the portal itself won't reopen once closed. :)
@@alan62036 enchanted items seem to remain magic up to a certain time in our world. For example the rings. Although like the wardrobe, they eventually lost their powers.
It’s almost like enchantments condensed magic unto an item. As oppose to a spell which draw upon the ambiant energies. Maybe that’s why you "shouldn’t" do it twice the same way. Maybe it draws on the literal life force of anything around you so by doing it repeatedly you risk damaging, destroying or killing everything that surrounds you.
I still laugh at the fact that digory's uncle is still in love with Jadis. Even as an old man, he remembers and wants to be with her. Even though she beat him up and told him he would be her personal slave.
S/M.
He's a SIMP, yeah I know that's an old meme
It's an allegory for sin
Andrew Ketterley needs ✨therapy✨
It's even funnier considering his misogynistic attitudes towards women. He sees them as lesser beings, but he got totally destroyed by her.
I am sure many people have speculated what the cost for the "Deplorable Word" was.
I think these are the best options:
A: She would lose the ability to have children
B: She would lose the ability to love ( Or in other words, lose all good within her heart)
Or the most likely
C: She literally lost her Soul. (Kind of an obvious one, which might also cause option B: to occur as well but whatever)
Or who knows maybe it was all three?
Or my theory that I keep repeating... she blew 20 guys tops. Far fetched I know but truth has been stranger IN fiction. I like you theory more. The deplorable word is extraordinary retarded tho. Like to use it you would have to go Full Retard. Why kill ever single being but yourself? Such an Edge Lord move tbh anyways I’m getting carried away. I think in the Witcher that if they become barren they gain access to more magic? Like when Yenneefer got her ovaries taken.
All 3..
In several myth and legends across world literature it is a common theme when a woman does a “unspeakable sin” when they lose their soul, they lose the ability to give life because not having a soul means they have lost the ability to fully embrace life. They also lose their humanity because they no longer carry empathy or compassion in their hearts anymore.
Because in losing their soul.. They lose their heart with it.
@@Carrionangel8911 which is kind of weird in that a lot of women genuinely dont want children. thats why im not sure thats the answer, she was a tyrannical ruler who wouldnt have anyone to concieve a child with after speaking the deplorable word and she was so self-obsessed that i doubt she imagined a scenario where shed die and leave behind a child anyway. i think that part of her story is meant to represent the same thing that her stealing and eating one of the apples in the narnia did, rebeliion at the cost of an enjoyable life. basically god saying "ok you can be powerful but you arent allowed to be happy about it anymore"
I think that your analysis is correct.
I would add that the price for learning the Deplorable Word was also probably, that she lost the ability to empathise.
Also that she condemned for all eternity to be malignantly narcissistic, to be completely consumed by her fantasies, her desires, her wishes and her wants.
That she lost the ability to show altruism and compassion.
Since C.S. Lewis is a Christian, I believe that the price would be her soul. Without her soul she can't love, show compassion or mercy.
I would LOVE to see a video on Charn and your theories of what may have gone on there! 😀
So, to summarize: the White Witch was an alien this whole time? 😨😨😨
Lol yep!
Yepp
to be fair the entire Narnia is an alien world as well
Always has been.
@@hayleybartek8643 *with a gun pointed at the back of my head 🤣😂
Who else as a kid thought the White Witch's origin story in Magician's Nephew was the dopest thing ever?
not jut as a kid lol. she's a badass
Looking back, that chapter in The Magician's Nephew in which she first appears was my first brush with cosmic horror.
Can i just say a netflix show about the White witch and the fall of charn would be sooooo cool
they could even show her having visions of the pools of worlds in the magicians nephew and her destroying all of them - would soo chilling- then end it with her awakening with the bell
I wouldn’t trust Netflix to create an adaption of Jadis, especially with so little material. I mean, most of Netflix adaptions are really really terrible. I wouldn’t even trust Amazon either, look what they did to the wheel of time and the rings of power.
Well, I’m surprised and impressed to have seen this video! Congrats on making this Narnia channel, since as a faithful Christian, I have been looking at the lore of the book series by CS Lewis. Thank you for this informative video, and I expect more great videos in the future.
Man I need to read the books again.😀
Jadis really did the “call an ambulance, but not for me” meme to her sister
Well, damn. All the times I've read The Magician's Nephew over the years and I never spotted the Garden of Eden comparison in Jadis stealing a forbidden apple from the magic garden before. How did I miss such an obvious reference?
Diggory ringing the bell can also be seen as a reference to original sin, seeing as it caused evil to enter Narnia
I remember that as soon as I learned to read I’ve read narnia, and even though I couldn’t understand the symbolisms and hidden themes I always felt intrigue by Jadis. Great work! 1000/10
4:22
Jadis: Call an ambulance, but not for me
"Physically assaulting people, robbing a jewelry store, evading police, and declaring her intentions to conquer England and annihilate London." you forgot swallowing gum.
Thanks man, you manage to bring back the love of Narnia back in me which I felt when I was watching The Narnia movies
Excellent, looking forward to part 2
We just introduced our kids to the books and movies. It has reawakened our love of Narnia and Lewis' world. I am so glad to have found this channel! Thank you for the hard work you are doing here👏👏
Glad to see a Narnia Channel out there :D where ppl can come together an Learn :-) and pick up on some things may have been unaware of.
Wow! That's the channel youtube was missing!
Great job! Loved the editing.
Looking forward to see what comes next!
I'm in love with the artworks 😍😭
Wow! Great starter! White Witch was always one of the more mysterious characters, and this puts a lot of perspective on when I read the books ages ago XD
Thanks for the video!
I agree! I certainly discovered some new and surprising things during the research for this. Thanks for watching.
This Tree of Protection was the one thing that protected everyone from Jadis but none of the other books really mentioned what happened to it. If it was just blown down by the wind, that would be so anticlimactic
I think it was destroyed by a storm.
All mortal things die eventually.
Think when Aslan was talking about people in our world learning secrets as destructive as the deplorable word, he was talking about the atrocities of WW1 and WW2 (since 'The Magician's Nephew was set in 1900), or was he talking about the atom bomb which was one of the biggest fears of the time when Lewis was writing the books?
I personally understood it as a reference to nuclear weaponry. It is interesting to think that Jadis basically nuked the entire world
It show's Aslan's ignorance of nukes. They're just REALLY strong bombs, not even in the same ballpark as a Word that undoes a creation.
@@KopperNeoman you mean C.S. Lewis's ignorance of nukes.
Then again this was around he time of or just before the time of 'duck and cover' where people seemed to think that that would protect you from a nuke blast, so ignorance of nukes was fairly common back then I guess
As of this post, the world is on the brink of destruction with the conflicts in Ukraine, Israel, and Korea. Aslan warned that one day, great nations would be ruled by tyrants who care no more for joy and justice and mercy than the Empress Jadis.
Dude these are so good , love the enthusiasm keep up the good work 👍🏼💙
Great video!
May the inexorable irresistible Tash preserve you.
Wow, stunning video! Your channel will be the best narnian theme channel on youtube!
What a compliment! Thanks for the encouragement.
I remember reading the chronicles of Narnia and was its own universe it wasn't like Alice in wonderland or Harry Potter it was fasinating I always thought there was something really strange about the white witch it seemed like when they killed her she kept coming back to life and now I know it's cause she ate the fruit but what is even crazier that the writers added is how some how she's a decendent of Lilith the first woman who rebeled against god, I love that she and the lion came face to face when Narnia was barely forming that's crazy because that just means she's an ancient, ancient witch. She must have had unimaginable amounts of power in her universe/ home world I would definitely watch a movie about Jadis without the whole Narnia stuff.
I get to be Jadis in my school play, and wow. I did not expect this much lore, but this is amazing!
She somewhat reminds me of Morathi, or Morathi-Khaine now. Both unloving and evil beings to the core. Selfish, powerful and cares not for their own kin. Also incredibly bad ass!
Morathi loved her husband and still loves her son
It's interesting how Lewis premised the Narnia lore on the idea of what we might call the 'multiverse' theory. I see this as Lewis marrying his love of both fantasy and science fiction into a single field of his creative imagination.
For those who are not as familiar with Lewis' sci fi interest, prior to the publication of the Narnia Chronicles, he had published a triad of science fiction books known as "The Space Trilogy".
There is a story that lewis and tolkien challanged each other to write a challange. Space and time travel. Lewis got space, tolkien time. Lewis created his space stories, but tolkien never managed to finish 'the long road.'
Let's not forget how Lewis's Christian faith also played a major role of influence for Narnia.
@@taqresu5865 no doubt. But he presented it to the world in a very abstract way. He always put Jesus at the front in Aslan.
He emphasized the 'deep magic' with its rules, can be an allusion to science and the role God played in it.
He is always vague about the emperor over the Sea, aka God.
He has a rather English circa 1920 view of Islam. (Poor. Islam like Christianity has to be fitered to understand Mohammeds messeges)
But he was a thinking persons Christian. The whole barren world of Char has a very scientific aspect. As does the wood between the world. Its not just blind faith
It made me think at 9 years old. I am not a Christian anymore, but I do have a deep belief and respect that if there is a God, science is his rules and we simply are learning them like a child.
@@chrissyclark7836 Abstract yes, but it's still very obvious. Jesus used many allegories in His teachings. Those who aren't followers in Christ do not understand the spiritual reality around us, so allegories are key to understand what material people do not.
Aslan here represents Christ as God, like the Bible portrays Him. Part of the Holy Trinity: Father, Spirit, Son. All equally God, and Eternal. Like Aslan, Jesus was present for Eternity Past, even during Creation.
I don't know why you brought up the False Prophet Mohammed, though.
@@taqresu5865 the Calmorenes were a take on muslims. But 1920s british upbringing was not kind to non Christians.
But he does make a point in the Last battle when Aslan states that anyone that does good is brought to him. Implying that even good Muslims will be brought to the right place.
I don't see the dogmatic trinity in Lewis writing. He clearly states his "Father over the Sea". I think his take was more Jesus as the son. Many Christians do not subscribe to the trinity, as there is no historical references to it in the new testament until after it was added in during translations.
In fact the whole Narnia universe is about introducing spirituality without any Christian dogma. Just good and evil and a LIon saying find me in your world.
I’ve read all the books several times both as a child and as an adult! I reread them after seeing “The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe” when it first came out in theaters!
When Jadis sought the Deplorable Word, maybe the "terrible price" she paid was the capacity to repent. Does anyone find this hypothesis logical?
Yes
Yes. Makes perfect sense.
The terrible price is the inability to feel remorse, sorrow and empathy.
Without those things, repentance can never be achieved because those things are the path towards repentance.
Once you are prepared to destroy the lives of others and the world for your own selfishness you've crossed the point of no return. Once you've realized you are prepared to do such a thing feelings of empathy, sorrow or remorse have no place in your soul. For a soul to be void of such things, you can never belong to any form of existence for we as a species need those emotions for our existence.
That doesn't seem a terrible price - pretty cheap. What if she already was unrepentant before learning that sort of magic?
@@Apocalymon Being unrepentant doesn't necessarily mean being *incapable* of remorse...
This is such a great channel it do its research and the narason is clear and makes sense. I love learning about deep lore of books I loved as a kid and as an adult. I hope this channel grows huge. Hard work pays off. Keep up the good work.
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Do a video on the Silver Chair. It's the best book of the series.
I'm inclined to agree--though VDT at least takes a close second!
We first meet Jadis, not in the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, but in the Magician's Nephew, which is chronologically the first of the Narnia books.
But I'm seeing a lot of continuity issues. In The Lion Witch & Wardrobe, Jadis was the Emperor's hangman and descended from giants and djinns but in The Magician's Nephew, she's just a queen from another world.
@@tractorfeed7602 If I recall, in the Magician's Nephew it was hinted she had giant blood in her family lline.
@@Waltham1892 so now, the question is whether she has Narnian giant blood or alien giant blood. Or if she was the Emperor's Hangman, then does she have giant blood from Aslan's country ?
@@tractorfeed7602 I would have to say she has giant's blood from her home world, Charn.
@@tractorfeed7602 That is all answered in the video...
She is one of the great vilans in all "fiction". Great video!
Jadis is the most interesting character. Especially good in the performance of Barbara Kellerman in the adaptation of the BBC. It's too bad there wasn't a movie for The Wizard's Nephew. By the way, it was interesting when Jadis, having heard Aslan's singing during the creation of Narnia, said something like that her fate overtook her (I don’t remember verbatim). But from these words it seemed as if she already knew how their confrontation would end. It's funny, even before reading the Wizard's Nephew, I had a dream that she was in our world. I asked her if we were going to take over the world or if she wanted to do something else. She said: of course take over the world. And I tried to play for time to figure out how to send her to Narnia, because I knew that if we were to take over the world together, I would have to share power with her. I didn’t want to, XD.)
Do you mean “The Magician’s Nephew?”
Thank you so much for explaining the important events of Narnia ❤
Great work. Going to follow your channel. Reading Narnia for my 7 yr old now. Been atleast 25 years since I read it last time.
What a special time you'll have together. Those will be memories that last a lifetime.
Infinity Gauntlet: I'm the most devastating weapon ever conceived of!
Deplorable Word: hold my Turkish Delight
Well… Thanos took out half the universe. Jadis only took out an entire planet.
@@johnfeather6476 The gauntlet requires six incredibly difficult to find stones, and kills all but the strongest of wielders with its power. You need only SPEAK the Deplorable Word.
@@johnfeather6476 deplorable word killed every living thing in the her universe besides her. That just how awfull the deplorable word is, you kill everything leaving you alone in the entire universe. A prize befitting only to those evil enough to speak it.
Just discovered your channel; I absolutely love it! The Magician's Nephew was the very first Narnia book I ever read (when I was about 9 or so I think). It still is my favourite. It's closer to science fiction than any of the others. It's also has a special place, alongside "The Horse and His Boy" as being written out of chronology by Lewis.
So glad you found the channel! Thank you for your post. I think TMN was the book that made me fall in love with the series too.
Another amazing video!
Are you going to make videos about the different creatures inn narnia?
That's a fantastic idea! between talking beasts, non talking animals, mythological creatures, spiritual beings, etc. That one could be a whole miniseries. Thanks so much for the idea.
@@IntotheWardrobe I would love to watch that series! Thanks for the reply, and thank you for making this UA-cam channal.
@@IntotheWardrobe Please include the evil creatures who fought alongside the White Witch like the Hag and Boggle.
Excellent work!!!🌟 God bless you!💗
This was the first video from you that I watched and I immediately subscribed. Fantastic work! Thank you for providing a very thorough video about Jadis!
That's great! Thanks for the encouragement!
Diggory took the fruit to his sick mother. She ate the fruit and recovered. Diggory planted the seeds in the corner of his backyard. The tree grew big and strong and was cut down and the wood was made into a wardrobe. Hence the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
Ohhhh thats why. So its connected to the world it belonged hence became a portal? Thanks
The narration is really great for a new channel, you deserve more subscribers. Keep it up!
Sweet, man! Great stuff!
Thanks so much! I'm starting to get the hang of it. :-)
That moment when you realize that the white witch needed to come back in the last Battle, if only to round out the series and bring the whole story of Narnia to come full circle.
When Jadis is so recognizable the one other witch we have over there is believed to be Jadis somehow.
Man, Narnia needs to be made into a movie like it was supposed to! It has such incredible potential for success!
Very well done with this! :-)
No one:
Jadis when she doesn't like something in the unknown: 🏃💨
This video will make anyone suddenly like Narnia. It is so interesting!
Is the deplorable word perhaps an allegory for nuclear weapons?
Great observation. Technically it was not an allegory according to Lewis (that's actually a topic for a future episode), but yes, it was a parallel to the atomic bomb. Jadis' years of research led to discovery of the dark secret magic, much like the exploration of science led to the atomic discovery. Aslan gives a sober warning at the end of the Magician's Nephew:
"It is not certain that some wicked one of your race will not find out a secret as evil as the Deplorable Word and use it to destroy all living things. And soon, very soon, before you are an old man and an old woman, great nations in your world will be ruled by tyrants who care no more for joy and justice and mercy than the Empress Jadis. Let your world beware. That is the warning."
@@IntotheWardrobe Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. It’s been a while since I’ve read these books as a kid and it’s cool to see them from a different viewpoint now.
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I still wonder why she was unable to do magic while on Earth. So far the only concrete theory I have is that God does write the rules of the world and whatever limits he has made for earth also apply to any foreign creature that goes to earth.
I believe it may be that she needed time to learn earth magic. Aslan talks about how in Narnia she would spend her time in exile learning and growing in dark magic. The rules and techniques must be different in each universe, and must be re-learned.
@@IntotheWardrobe Lewis literally referred about Hitler and other tyrants of the Second World War era with that quote and when I was a child and read these books it went right over my head. I just realized that this is a parallel to the atomic bombs and a warning about how history repeats
Great video could you make a video about the wood between worlds?
Great idea! There's actually much more to talk about here than most people realize!
This is amazing thanks for this!
I don't know how I never realized that the queen from Magician's Nephew was the White Witch. Geez.
Thankyou. These videos are so good.
Love the artwork. Especially 00:17
Interesting backstory. I got alot of homework to do to catch up on all things Narnia.
I LOVE THIS! Keep it up!
She reminds me of Jezabel, the wife who corrupted King Ahab
Did you know that the 'eternal winter' of Narnia was based off of Fimbulvinter from Norse Mythology, which is a winter that lasts three seasons (or years- it varies depending on the text and my memory is foggy at the moment) before Ragnarök.
Very well done I have always been fascinated by Charn's history and Jadis' story. While we know of her from Narnia and beyond but knowing more of her and Charn was interesting.
Do you think Jadis' winter was the cause of the tree of protection dying?
Great job! I knew everything from the original Chronicles, but you did a deep dive to get stuff from between leaving Aslan's Garden and conquering Narnia. Looking forward to part 2. =) Got anything on the Green Witch from The Silver Chair? I'd love to know more about her.
There’s a new video about her that was posted tonight!
If you have the time to respond, would you please tell me where you acquired the amazing artworks.
I would love to see Illustrations of that capacity for a re-published book series of the Chronicles of Narnia.
Keep posting 😄 do a video on the Lady of the Green Kurtle
It's coming this week! Thanks for the suggestion.
Excellent analysis, i think the same as you about Jadis.
Good job. 🤗
So jadis:
• Can gain access to magic in multiple worlds
• Is stated to be " inherently evil " by Aslan
• Has superhuman natural abilities
If humans are referred to as " sons of Adam " and " daughters of eve " when they never existed in narnia...does Aslan plan for worlds to interact with each other? And why?
She seems to be kind of like superman, gaining energy from the 🌞. Maybe that explains why she was so weak in the wood between the worlds
cause everything in these is religious - asian in jesus and jadis represents satan/lilith
Well done!! A wonderful job on your video.
I’m afraid of what Netflix will do to this amazing series.
Here because I’m auditioning for her tomorrow!
Wow! Break a leg!
I found this video because I suddenly remembered part of a story we read in school. Something about ringing a bell and some very tall woman awakens. Something about green pools and yellow pools that transport people. Something about a word that would destroy entire worlds. I never read any of these books, but it still stands out as one of the few stories I remember from school. I had to google these vague terms because I had no idea what book it was from. It's strange how we can remember such insignificant details after so many decades.
This is amazing man.
Charn is probably the most intriguing part of the whole Narnia lore.
Another definitive study !
CS Lewis had a lifelong love of the children's stories of Edith Nesbit ( 1858 - 1924 ) , paying tribute to her in his spiritual autobiography Surprised by Joy. He paid further tribute by borrowing various elements including the Queen of Babylon from the The Story of the Amulet which he turned into Queen Jadis. Striking, significant and extensive correlation.
Good video guys, good video
What is the title of the background song?? A very interesting video!
Tilda put life into the character and fear in my heart.
I have often wondered. Was Jadis' sister in the right? We can be most certain that Jadis' version of events is not the true events since she most likely told her story in a "favorable" light. Was Jadis' sister a reformer who wanted to "Make Charn Great Again." Or was she just Jadis 2.0.
Or were they both evil...
@@adrahil That is what I meant by Jadis 2.0
@@charlessapp1835 She's basically exactly the same as Jadis and the rest of Charn's population only Jadis is much worse given she destroyed her entire universe with the deplorable word and the royal family made vows to never speak it under any circumstances
I think the wood from the Tree of Protection was made into the Wardrobe in Digory's ( The Professor) house. Which allows entry into Narnia.
Love how that galaxy became Aslan's face
Nice, good narration
Wow! I never knew from Jadis metal bar to lamp post thank you for detailed information impressive! now I subcribed
Glad it was helpful!
I hope someday Narnia will revive their film or series adaption so people will get more interested in its lore and watch your videos
Amazing videos, but a question where do you all youtubers found the images of books in art?
Glad you like the videos! Most of it is fan art from sites like Artstation, etc, and some of it I have photoshopped from multiple sources. I try to credit all artists in the video description.
@@IntotheWardrobe thx for reply
We need a movie about her
Was always funny as a kid to watch the first movie, since her actress looks JUST LIKE my aunt