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Been playing League since season 1 and I will never stop complaining about how Syndra can cast most of her abilities while staying on the move which STILL IS a huge thing for a skillshot based matchup x)
lmao tell that to Xerath
@@sebastiantavera3256xerath has to stop moving for literally all four of his abilities lol
that's enough for myself to perma-ban her everytime Im playing melee lmao
@@TurkeyMeat While that is true, he has double the range of the other mages and assassins. Good Xerath can just stay in Africa and still hit you with at least 2 of his abilities. I don't think it's a fair champion design, especially if he hits W(which he usually do cuz it's the most noob ability to hit) he will gurantee his Q to hit you as well.
@@filament1903 Oh yeah I agree he's bullshit, I got full 100-0 by support xerath ult yesterday, and he even had a shot left. But he does have to stand still briefly for his abilities so if you do manage to get on him its joever.
Me, a support main, who can't even last-hit minions: got it
As support, most of these concepts still apply for harassing in lane. Of course it it much more complicated since you are going against 2 enemies and may have a dunce for an ADC at your side.
footsies is way more intense between supports in botlane, we have a lot more braincells free to dedicate to spamming taunts and emotes too lmao
Makes it even better. You can do it without needing to last hit at all, further reducing your mental stack load allowing you to fill it with other things like vision.
I agree with all of these points... especially the emoting and vision...
If they don't turn off emotes, that can also be annoying...
And if you are in my elo and have been sinnce S2😢... then you can practice looking at the mini!!!
@@EarlHare Oh! I was moreso being self depricating, that I'm watching these advanced strat videos when I'm too bad at this game to even be able to last-hit haha
I need to work on doing this but posturing and being more aware of enemy jungler. I try overwhelm opponent but by doing that I overwhelm myself and get ganked hehe
honestly, you don't need to actively think about the jungler.
there are a lot of easy ways to predict junglers, it is the easiest role to predict.
Remember they have an almost set pattern.
if you see or know where they are going to start then you can guess their pathing to the other side.
around the 3 minute mark is also something to be aware of, at this point junglers finish their first rotation and try to look for ganks.
try to ward entrances to river instead of sidelane brushes/choke points.
if the enemy junglers shows up on the ward it will save you 10 seconds to retreat to your tower then if they show up on a brush ward and are almost in lane.
you can also use your own jungler to estimate the position of the enemy jungler.
if your jungler is grabbing scuttle and isn't being contested you can estimate the enemy jungler is either doing scuttle at the other side of the map or in that part of the jungle.
these are some easy to apply tips and tricks :)
always try to learn/do one thing at a time until you can do it without active thought in your gameplay and then grab something else to work/learn/improve^^
@@giocommentary excellent tip thank you! This is the biggest thing I've been trying to implement in my gameplay lately I just got to gold IV and am still climbing :)
@@jsarguitar nice congratz!
around Gold people their mechanics are usually okay to decent but their map awareness and decision making is usually still really bad.
splitpushing and roaming really shine here.
remember kills and gold don't give you anything if you can't transfer it into an actual lead.
snowballing champions that can take over entire games themselves like Katarina and fizz will demolish enemys purely by existing.
roam get kills, make their life a nightmare by only coming to lane to gank your own enemy laner or grab the wave who is trying to punish you by taking your tower, go to bot or top again - repeat.
whilst splitpushers abuse the fact people don't know how to end games fast.
it causes discordance makes other people come to your lane and even if you die 350 gold is nothing compared to something like a third dragon or inhibitor turret on the other side of the map
and the amount of times i've seen 2/3 enemy's with baron buff recall to stop a single Sion at their second top turret is insane.
they see u coming for that tower any resemblance of teamwork usually poofs right out of the window.
who is going to stop the Sion? 3 man recalls and their entire baron buff siege comes to a screeching halt.
@@jsarguitar ps: out of every tip and advice i can give you, the greatest of all!
MUTE YOUR TEAMMATES!!!!!!!!!!!!
go to your settings and change it to party chat.
now you can't see if they flame or rage type anything which keeps your own mental in check and keeps you focused on what is ACTUALLY important which is the game itself.
if they spam ping mute their pings on the spot.
spam pingers aren't going to do anything or give any form of good or useful information when all they do is spam pings and be distracting.
wanna give a wp or thumbs up? use an emote like the thumbs up emote instead. (my personal favorite is the ''blow the ornn horn'')
just make sure it can't be perceived negatively in any way shape or form by your teammate.
else they might mental boom.
and people WILL mental boom....
or get good wave control and be ganked a lot less @@giocommentary
As an Adc I would love to dominate this art, but it's so wild being a 2v2. Great video
Yup, adc will always have support to rely on for this. It still works, just ~50% less of the time.
Yeah, that's not really true. Watch Viper play level 1 bot lane with a range adv and you'll see how much impact you can have.@@crazysnill
I find it just as important as an adc. Baiting support skillshots is the obvious benefit, especially if it puts them out of position, but pushing the enemy adc off the wave and forcing them to use whatever skillshots they have to farm gives you complete control over the lane just as much as mid or top would.
It is just as important, but is also reliant on the support@@TurkeyMeat
In a duo lane, this would more apply to the support than the ADC as they usually have more threat and trading. But you can translate the mechanic to fit the role. Instead of posturing in a way that creates pressure, posture in a way that draws aggression. A support trying to hit you rather than pressure the lane or an ADC looking to aggress on you rather than focus on your support creates space for your support to work and distracts the cs and wave control on your opponent. Even better is that if you have the better DUO, you CAN generate threat as there’s the threat of your support responding with you. Allowing you to do similar tactics in the video.
Great video, been doing all of it for years though, can't wait to see something actually new.
It's crazy how he explains this over and over on his streams
What's his name on twitch ?
Mcbaze@@soldierofchrist7611
@@soldierofchrist7611mcbaze
@@soldierofchrist7611 MCBAZE
@@soldierofchrist7611yeah give us a name
what happens if you go to a lane and your an assasin and going against a marksman?
The choke-dodge visualization 6:48 are well made ❤
another update that makes my morning coffee way better!
Ok, but what can I do in a melee ranged matchup, my champ is not mobile just has great burst, but that burst can't be applied while the enemy is constantly 3 kms away yet has full lane presence (I play pantheon and I'm talking about poke mage matchups, like lux, xerath and stuff like that). I mean if I dodge a skillshot then they just play extremely safe so I can't deal damage, yet they have full control over the wave because the range and aoe is just huge.
Ranged will always have the early push, and do their best to poke you down. But once the wave crashes, it will bounce back, which temporarily gives you the push. This is when you need to take full advatage of your push lead and all in them if they try to contest the push. They should be forced to use abilities on the wave to push, which means you have free reign to auto the wave and retain the push, or all in them if they also attempt to auto. It is very important that you stay healthy in the early levels so that you have the hp to pressure them off the wave when it bounces back.
xerath pressuring azir like the lore was
Can you please do a tutorial on how to hit plants if there are enemies standing on it?😂 pls it's so hard and everytime I die because they block the plant witg their body😂
I would love to do this on Veigar but he’s pitifully weak at level 1. I’ll just stick to my first item spike snowball play style, but this is definitely going in my arsenal for stronger champions
Huh.. ranged champion with very flexible level 1 skill is weak? You can go q for more poke vs ranged or e start vs melees that you can smack a autos lvl 1
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What rank was the nocturne gaame?
In plat if you press this way in the lane the enemy jungle just sits in mid and you dont play the game
Unless the enemy does it, then your jungle full clears as you sit under tower
Talk about missing the entire point and victimizing yourselves into staying hardstuck. "It's jungler's fault I can't climb."
@@Sangsstuff nah, I understand the point but sometimes it doesn't work
explaining how hard laning phase is
meanwhile junglers:
I didn't undrestand a single thing from this guide
All I got from it is that this guy likes smurfing and took some clips against the most braindead opponents he could find to show off.
"Yo, look at how I dance on these low elo opponents even though they could easily run me down if they knew what my champion does".
On the one hand it is true you could exploit some opponents like he's doing. On the other hand some of them will be smarter and you will int by acting how he does in this video. Basically, nothing to learn here
That comment about asol is gold
my man is a 2:15 and 3:20 under this azir's tower and not a single gank on him. he has ward up btw. anytime i pressure this hard they have already ganked me 4 times xD
Funny that TF is saying nerf Asol when getting oneshot by Zed
Understood. I will go play fighting games now.
I love mcbaze
What can azir even do against that xerath cancer?
Play better
can you do this type of video but for top lane?
its not made specifically for midlane it applies for all lanes especially solo lanes
@@nightmare_p8660it doesn't work with top though
@@Crystal_Man why not?
all of the concepts in this video can be applied to any lane/match up.
@@Crystal_Man why?
@@nightmare_p8660 becuase it's mostly melee vs. Melee so you can't apply pressure with your skill shots becuse you don't have them
Sure sounds easy on 30 ms but most players play on 60-80 ms so footsies are not reacting but more predicting
me brain no good enuff for this
As a jg main, I’m taking notes so I can continue to ruin your lives
Is it just me or does mcbaze sound really different?
womp
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Yo early
Iron 4 elo hell, yeah this really matters when the whole team feeds and you are an adc trying to 1v9 on this season, what a joke.
First coment:)
idk why basic fundamentals getting called advanced laning mechanic. Sad that those "Coaching" Channels never go deeper into the Matter
because even if it is fundamental doesn't mean the players understand or use it. most players don't do this hence it is an advanced mechanic
@@Cube__TV its basic not advanced. fundamentals are basic
@@demonkingrengar9130 semantics. basics I classify as "last hit to get gold". in comparison this is advanced. no real point arguing that as these are not regulated terms they are up for interpretation.
@@Cube__TV yeah ok so walking by right clicking is a basic as well or what u know exactly what i mean no need to be gramma nazi
this azir is clearly silver btw
Thanks, I've seen it now, please delete the video
Why not just call this vid " learn how to abuse champs that can't fight back"? Lol azir is probably one of the weakest level 1 champ and youre using long range spell casters. Why not show a demo vs a champ that has the similar skill set? This is vid is suppose to teach people how to come out on top when youre in an even matchup, but instead its more like showing people how to poke out a helpless champ that doesnt get an actual ability till he hits level 2.
Meh, just seemed like smurfing in lower elo with knowledge of spacing which is something you don't get to do unless you''ve already died thousand times by limit testing.
On paper, that's true but i don't think anyone below Diamond will apply this in an efficient way without getting ganked and die; So... I would rate this video as "send this to your diamond friend hardstuck OTP " but nothing a low elo could pull that off, you were just dribbling in front of elementary school, they don't bite back.
Tips are good, but wave management on death was not explained, neither the comeback after dying. You're just showing higher elo moves spacing on a gold player and be like " Yo, do this, easy right? "Without explaining how to comeback if you f-up. That's not a guide, that's showing off in lower elo
Last thing : At 9:00 , your play worked because you're in low elo. Yasuo didn't hear/see Nocturne, then he realises, he comes late, you kill nocturne in awful way and Yasuo doesn't flash on you, doesn't E on you, missed Q, auto minion on his way. Finally, why is Nocturne Lvl 2 without any buff trying to gank ?
That's just smurfing and showing people " See what i Did ? Now do it " without actually having no idea how to do it.
Your guides are really good most of the time but this one didn't go into any depth, low elo won't understand how to pull that off, and higher elo already knew that. It's like a lose-lose scenario where you can't explain easily, yet it's something natural in high elo.
I don't know, may be it would be better to put a Part 2 with actual advices to give on low elo people instead of just pointing fingers at (awful) plays and say " Do that, easy right ? "
Wishing you good luck for the next one~~ 😇
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@@RealShojin ☠☠☠☠☠
If you look up HUGE PROBLEM you will find that player is gold, so yeah.
@@TF2NefC If you look up the Twitch "AKEYnAlo4" you can find the specific match easily and see the elo is mostly high bronze-low gold and checking the Zed's profile finds that all the footage here and many other games, the smurf was Duoing with the Graves "HUGE PROBLEM". Duoing with a smurf jungler, ah yes, surely theres a way they lose this
I think that's always been the problem with McBaze's videos even when he's smurfing in something like master's elo. I think the mechanical concepts he explains are good, but honestly for some people these things just don't happen without tons and tons of training. I've played this game since season 2 and I definitely can't apply footsies or baiting abilities very well because I've never been a very mechanical player, which is why I find games like DMC or Elden Ring also quite mechanically difficult to play. The difference is that in those games you can actually practice by reproducing the same situation over and over, but you can't in League.
I also think these concepts are very complex and don't apply to high elo like you point out. Low elo should probably focus more on just understanding matchups in general such as why is Xerath weak into Azir level 1? I play neither of these champions, and while I suppose I could theorize it's because Azir can get a free push lead because of his soldiers, it's also super silly to suggest that if the player is matched with equally skilled opponents that they can always out micro their opponent in the lane like McBaze does, because if they could do it on a regular basis, they wouldn't be in that elo.
Also, I think even before even talking about footsies and spacing, an even more fundamental part is knowing the enemy threat range to begin with, and a lot of people don't do that. If they did, they wouldn't be low elo, and beyond that, flash is also something to always take in account as well, and how all of this then plays into wave control. Hence again, champion mastery and matchup knowledge matters way more than footsies, because it's only something you can start to apply once you have achieved a very high level of mastery, imo.
Worst audio of any Skill Capped Video!!!
ADVANCED LANING? MAYBE FOR BRONZE DIVISION
Don't you think it's weird that as a challenger player you're showing this against plat or below players? Why not show us these concepts vs other challenger players and not smurf on unsuspecting lower elo people..
most of his viewers aren't going to be higher than emerald. Also, one thing you forgot to mention is that xerath counters azir xd, so it would be better if he counterpicked himself instead of countering the enemy