@@flatwormexit It's actually more along the lines of, like, they were going to have the time feature in 2 but scrapped it and eventually came up with CD and decided to dump the mechanic there. Saying it was split like S3&K kind of sounds like they were gonna be one big game, which is near impossible
I don't think the mechanic was around on 2 enough to affect Sonic 2's stages. It was just one of the ideias which were being tossed out during development of both.
Aaaa so many cool stuff is happening on Dec 7th ^w^ Thanks for the playthrough, I really appreciate it :3 I especially loved that you showed off Oil Ocean Zone Bad Future, most of the streamers skipped on it X3
Sonic 2 meets Sonic CD! This is pretty cool, and with the addition of Amy, and the time travel gimmick from CD, I really like how it has music fitting the versions of each Zone, too! Past, Present, Good and Bad Futures of each Zone all look and sound distinct from each other, which is great.
@@kikiretzorg1467 (i actually forgot i left this comment lmao) Yeah, graphics could use some more work, but I'm not sure if the hack will be finished in it's basic form, let alone a full CD-styled remaster with custom graphics for every time period.
This had many of my votes in the SHC. It's a shame the hack placed low, but I think that's partly due from of the lack of advertising for it. On the outside it looks like a generic sonic 2 hack, but on the inside, it's probably one of the most complex rom hacks ever done.
Metal sonic vs sonic race in death egg zone 1 is an awesome idea. A callback to the original with a twist. Also, sonic cheats. He falls on some spikes but doesnt stumble or anything, he just hits the ground running full speed lol. Also, where are the good future zones? They are probably works-in-progress i guess, Unless future is always screwed like silvers lol.
I like this mod/hack. But I want every zone to be in the game in different timelines. What I mean is that a zone's future/past would be a completely different zone. Example: emerald hill zone's past is aquatic ruins zone, its bad future is chemical plant zone and its good future is wood zone. Next zone is mystic cave zone. Its past is hidden palace zone, its bad future is oil ocean zone, its good future is hill top zone, next zone is metropolis zone, its past is casino night zone, its bad future is genocide/cyber city zone, its good future is dust hill zone. Next zone is sky chase and so on and so on.
Wow! Wow wow wow wow wow!!!! This is excellent! The time travel! Adding Amy and Metal! (& Knuckles) The detail of the background disappearing when underwater (underwater Emerald Hill FTFW!!) is a really nice touch! I hate it when usual fan games and hacks add water and you can still see the mountains and waterfalls, etc. This looks like it’s shaping up to be my favorite hack ever! Can’t wait to try it out. At this rate Metal Sonic might have his own move set from CD? :o Edit: just reached Metal Sonic part. Oh well, 9/10 :D
DID YOU KNOW?If you explore the levels on past you can find the robot transpoter and destroy him then you go to the future(not present)and there you go,Good Future found!
That genesis remix of the act 2 theme of the OOZ from Mania is FUCKING GIVING ME EARGASMS. I hope Pacca will publish those soundtracks on UA-cam soon. Also, i really like how the BF of OOZ is based on the act 2 from Mania.
I think it's pretty great, considering all of that went into this hack. They really care about it and it''s admirable. Shocks me that many of the stuff was programmed successfully too. As good as it may be,it does play it too safe. The past and future feels like it's just recolored with a small gimmick. I thought maybe at least have some tiles for the past to be grassy or something in oil ocean. It just feels too similar, and even though I like the gimmick in the future as well, it just feels to close to the present.
Possible reason why past emerald hill was full of water : Many species were not there but egg man had went to the past and put robots and not much species there used water so that makes it watery
There was no oil in that past version, so nothing to stop them from wrecking the submarine. Which shouldn't even be there without oil or at least water.
@@jckstudios7693 in the game you can customise Sonic’s abilities and speed. RRZ refers to a setup with a fast dash attack, 2Fest refers to the max speed without ice physics.
If this was real, it would most likely either be putting Sonic CD in the Mega CD or a special version of said sonic cd with expansion content for all those games, sorta like sonic & knuckles.
Funny, last time i checked, hill top was the past of emerald hill and cbemical plant was the bad future, also to note that dust hill was the ruin time present.
theres a rather large difference between fighting robotnik in the bad future and any other time. in the bad future it doesn't matter what you do, robotnik has already won and you're just bothering him the good future feels more like he already lost but he thinks he still has some kind of chance in the present its just another tuesday in the past its another tuesday but with different colors
*Emerald Hill* Present: Emerald Hill Past: Tapiz Lazuli Hill Good Future: Rainbow Hill Bad Future: Orange Hill *Oil Ocean* Present: Oil Ocean Past: Salt Ocean Good Future: ????? Bad Future: Vinegar Ocean *Aquatic Ruin* Present: Aquatic Ruin Past: Underwater Unruined Good Future: ??? Bad Future: Aquatic Orange-Ruined *Death Egg* Present: Death Egg Past: ??? Good Future: ??? Bad Future: ???
Past opinions: Emerald hill Past: Deadly Oil ocean past: Peaceful Aquatic ruin past: Nothing different Death egg past: Isn’t there any? Future opinions: Emerald hill Future: Fine Oil ocean future: MY EYES!!! Aquatic ruin Future: It’s not Halloween! Death egg future: nope none
Ideas: Chim. Plant zone Good past: instead off goo now there's water. Bad past: the goo it burning... Good future: now there's gray goo and metallic ground and background Bad future: now everything it ruined by metal... Casino night: Good past: there's more safe Bad past: everything it not built and it very broken Good future: everything it more electric and good Bad future:there's to many gas and broken ground
So if you’re playing as Metal Sonic in the Death Egg race, we can only guess that the character chasing him with the laser would be Tails or Knuckles and not Robotnik
DID YOU KNOW? sonic 2 was originally use time travel look like this hack knows about sonic 2
@@flatwormexit Just like 3&K
@@flatwormexit It's actually more along the lines of, like, they were going to have the time feature in 2 but scrapped it and eventually came up with CD and decided to dump the mechanic there. Saying it was split like S3&K kind of sounds like they were gonna be one big game, which is near impossible
@@rjrozeTV Yes, that is indeed true. At no point in time was 2 and CD were going to be 1
Yes.
I don't think the mechanic was around on 2 enough to affect Sonic 2's stages. It was just one of the ideias which were being tossed out during development of both.
1:21 Hey, this is normal speed!
1:41 No!!!
1:44 oh ok
That switcharoo with the Death Egg Zone act 1, and that awesome remix, was perfect.
Glad you liked it ^w^
I wonder, is it Sonic for Metal Sonic, Metal Sonic for everyone else? Or would each character have their own adversary to race?
Aaaa so many cool stuff is happening on Dec 7th ^w^ Thanks for the playthrough, I really appreciate it :3
I especially loved that you showed off Oil Ocean Zone Bad Future, most of the streamers skipped on it X3
Sonic 2 meets Sonic CD! This is pretty cool, and with the addition of Amy, and the time travel gimmick from CD, I really like how it has music fitting the versions of each Zone, too! Past, Present, Good and Bad Futures of each Zone all look and sound distinct from each other, which is great.
Glad you liked it :3
This would be a perfect ROM hack which showcases what would've happened if Sonic 2's and Sonic CD's development didn't split.
@Jason Bratcher Sir, Razor and Zenon don't make these.
This hack here is made by another person called Pacca.
@@therealinferno161 The same pacca in this reply.
THAR TETNICKLE THE SAME GAME
Really waiting for the full version, because this is amazing!
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Definitely! I'm really hoping that the different times get more sophisticated, like, I'd love to see Aquatic Ruin before it was a Ruin!
@@kikiretzorg1467 (i actually forgot i left this comment lmao)
Yeah, graphics could use some more work, but I'm not sure if the hack will be finished in it's basic form, let alone a full CD-styled remaster with custom graphics for every time period.
Vdd
@@lurdesmarinesborges968 translation: tru
I really like the options menu
I'm very proud of it, it's built from the ground up :3
Its cool isn't it?
@Sir AZ Oh yeah. That sounds like a good idea
@@Pacca64 you best
X6
Wow, pretty involved project, I'd imagine. I suppose this is what it would have been like if Sonic CD and Sonic 2 weren't developed separately.
What! So the actual Casino Night we see in the final release is actually the Future version?
Yes
@Marcos Trujillo Bravo That was changed to cyber city
@@Zecolariiyes
I wonder what it would be like if there was a Sonic 1 or 3 & Knuckles CD?
Yes
Yup, it is planned. In fact, there is minimal Sonic 1 support in the game currently, but it's inaccessible in the demo.
That would be pretty Epic.
I think that there already is a sonic 1 cd, but no s3&k cd
Sonic 1 was planned to be in market but Cd got to it instead cause S1 Cd was scrapped.
Damn I really like that Oil Ocean Past remix
Ikr? It just sounds so badass
Future looks like mania
That sounds like a good future rather than a past
@@LilGreedy-wk8xt good future and past use the same song, just with some differences
This looks like a very promising hack. Can't wait to see other past and future zones.
This had many of my votes in the SHC. It's a shame the hack placed low, but I think that's partly due from of the lack of advertising for it. On the outside it looks like a generic sonic 2 hack, but on the inside, it's probably one of the most complex rom hacks ever done.
dud the creator lost 9 months to make this
@@RaphielShiraha64 I was following the creators youtube updates for a long time before the SHC, So I've known it took a long time.
Mano, como a SHC não dá valor pra um hack rom desse?
I love how when you get a speedy shoes monitor, the past tracks play at the correct speed!
I cant be the only one that heard casino night 2P version vibes got sneaked into oil ocean past
@Jason Bratcher casino night 2 player was oil ocean's original theme
4:10 Oil Ocean Zone Future it's hell!
Well damn this is exactly how I pictured Sonic 2 Special Edition would of been for the SegaCD had the project didn't involve into Sonic CD.
Metal sonic vs sonic race in death egg zone 1 is an awesome idea. A callback to the original with a twist. Also, sonic cheats. He falls on some spikes but doesnt stumble or anything, he just hits the ground running full speed lol.
Also, where are the good future zones? They are probably works-in-progress i guess, Unless future is always screwed like silvers lol.
there are good futures, razor/zenon just didnt show them off for some reason
Huh, that's odd, they showed them off in the prior video...
The rest of death egg zone reminds me of Genocide City Zone from Sonic 2 Delta
Oil Ocean Past = Easy Mode
Oil Ocean Present = Normal Mode
Oil Ocean Bad Future = Hard Mode
And Good Future?
@Monster Zero Ichi 😈 ok
7:32 Wow, who would say that Oil Ocean in the past looks nice and cool?
This must have been a nightmare to program... or, maybe not! xD I like this though especially the soundtracks for the different time zones.
It was actually pretty fun to make ^w^ took over 9 months of on and off work though X3
Who else thinks Oil Ocean past's song sounds like it should be in the good future?
Ummm yeahhh, the "major key" Oil Ocean song for Good Future!!! Wooow, definitely it sounds cute as if a Good/PERFECT Future
Glad to see this game make a comeback once again
Razor & Zenon just wanted to try out the new version of the hack that they skipped out the Good Futures and some Time Stones...
I wonder if there will be another one with the Good Futures; it'd be pretty wacky if they made two videos on it X3
@@Pacca64 That would be very awesome.
I’m really hoping they use the time travel mechanic in a similar way to how the original game would’ve used it (eg: Wood Zone is Metropolis Past).
Actually Wood zone was going to be a present version of casino night
@smb85 dkc94 *cyber city
No, it’s Genocide. Not Cyber.
Correction from 6 months after, Genocide City was renamed to Cyber City.
No wood zone is casino night zone present
making the bad future of oil ocean zone the second act of oil ocean zone in mania was a really nice touch
I like this mod/hack. But I want every zone to be in the game in different timelines. What I mean is that a zone's future/past would be a completely different zone. Example: emerald hill zone's past is aquatic ruins zone, its bad future is chemical plant zone and its good future is wood zone. Next zone is mystic cave zone. Its
past is hidden palace zone, its bad future is oil ocean zone, its good future is hill top zone, next zone is metropolis zone, its past is casino night zone, its bad future is genocide/cyber city zone, its good future is dust hill zone. Next zone is sky chase and so on and so on.
Here's mine (past,present,future)
Hill Top, Emerald Hill, ???
Secret Base, Chemical Plant, ???
Aquatic Ruin, ???, ???
Wood Zone, Casino Night, Metropolis
Hidden Palace, Mystic Cave, Red Volcano (Sonic Blast)
???, ???, Oil Ocean
Sky Chase
Wing Fortress
Death Egg
It's interesting, since the original concept of Sonic 2 had time travel.
Fact: Sonic 2 was originally gonna have time travel, like Sonic CD. But it was scrapped due to time constraints.
This is what Sonic 2 was initially going to be. Of course the future Oil Ocean would be the Mania verison.
I Didn't Even Know That They Added Amy and Metal Sonic Into this ROM Hack!
Wow! Wow wow wow wow wow!!!!
This is excellent! The time travel! Adding Amy and Metal! (& Knuckles)
The detail of the background disappearing when underwater (underwater Emerald Hill FTFW!!) is a really nice touch! I hate it when usual fan games and hacks add water and you can still see the mountains and waterfalls, etc.
This looks like it’s shaping up to be my favorite hack ever! Can’t wait to try it out. At this rate Metal Sonic might have his own move set from CD? :o
Edit: just reached Metal Sonic part. Oh well, 9/10 :D
Oh boy, Emerald Hill Past is a water level. Just what the doctor ordered. lol
4:13 Oil ocean act 2 Reference from Sonic Mania!
11:17 Death Egg is Chemical Plant with a Cyan color palette confirmed! I knew it!
This is a really creative idea😯 This is only a demo but it going really well so far
DID YOU KNOW?If you explore the levels on past you can find the robot transpoter and destroy him then you go to the future(not present)and there you go,Good Future found!
The remixes in this are incredible
Sonic 2 cd Remix Created by pacca: Beta Sonic 2 cd remix created by Pacca from a website called Sonichacking : Full
ничего себе! Классный хак! и да я вернулся и смотрю твои видео)
Dark_Star Later Player ??????
@@DarkStarDS its Russian idiots
Ya correct bro this hack are preaty cool
Лол понаехали на пацана, янки.
Впрочем не удивительно как и у нас,пропаганда запада выставляет нас глупыми (мягко сказанно).Тоже самое и у нас.
That genesis remix of the act 2 theme of the OOZ from Mania is FUCKING GIVING ME EARGASMS.
I hope Pacca will publish those soundtracks on UA-cam soon.
Also, i really like how the BF of OOZ is based on the act 2 from Mania.
already uploaded all of the demo music onto my own channel, if you're still wondering about that
@@izzysarchives5789 Thanks for posting them on your channel dude. There are still some missing themes though.
It’s like the original idea. Just if the original ideas for the stages
Like how hill top was supposed to be a prehistoric version of Emerald hill.
I like how the past of Emerald Hill Zone with speed shoes is just Emerald Hill Zone
It would've been so hilarious to see the ending cut scene but with metal sonic instead.
Dude you play the best Sonic games!
Fun fact: this is what sonic 2 would have been
I think it's pretty great, considering all of that went into this hack. They really care about it and it''s admirable. Shocks me that many of the stuff was programmed successfully too. As good as it may be,it does play it too safe. The past and future feels like it's just recolored with a small gimmick.
I thought maybe at least have some tiles for the past to be grassy or something in oil ocean. It just feels too similar, and even though I like the gimmick in the future as well, it just feels to close to the present.
Loving Knuckles’ time travel sprites!
4:05 🎶*Bag Raiders - Shooting Stars*🎶
Aka Sonic 2 as conceptually intended
This hack is so epic oh my god, I NEED to try it out asap
Glad you like it ^w^
@@Pacca64 how can i play it on android
@Blu3s the Sad Garbage but i install a lot of them but dont work the rom dont appear
@Blu3s the Sad Garbage ok i am gonna try
@@سلمىالزهراء extract it too
12:13 Robo silver Sonic : i am the true Sonic , Faker !!!!!!
He is Metal Sonic
I mean silver sonic
Oh
1:49 When you get the speed shoes in the past, the music plays at normal speed lol.
It's better when you realize this was what Sonic 2 was intended to be.
Possible reason why past emerald hill was full of water : Many species were not there but egg man had went to the past and put robots and not much species there used water so that makes it watery
The future of oil oceain is the music of sonic mania oil ocean act 2
*past
Shadow the UA-camr It’s actually Bad Future if you didn’t notice.
Wow cool this should be in a premiere
Apparently Hill Top was originally meant to be the past Emerald Hill when time travel was a concept
You guys never destroy that boss on Oil Ocean so fast!!
There was no oil in that past version, so nothing to stop them from wrecking the submarine. Which shouldn't even be there without oil or at least water.
Fun lil' fact: RRZ 2Fest is the fastest sonic ability setup. A setup a speedrunner dreams was in the normal games
wat
I cannot decipher what you are saying
@@jckstudios7693 in the game you can customise Sonic’s abilities and speed. RRZ refers to a setup with a fast dash attack, 2Fest refers to the max speed without ice physics.
11:39 Stardust Base Zone 'aka' Launch Speedway Zone
Launch Base's Go
Orginaly hill top was ment to be a past version of emrald hill
Hill top zone was actually suppose to be another version of emerald hill Zone for time travel , but they canceled time travel for sonic 2
Metal Sonic: I AM THE REAL SONIC!! WHO IS THE MINION NOW???
SONIC:*sigh*
If this was real, it would most likely either be putting Sonic CD in the Mega CD or a special version of said sonic cd with expansion content for all those games, sorta like sonic & knuckles.
Fun fact a developer confirmed that there was 5 timelines in sonic 2 at one point before it was scrapped
Which game do you like more sonic cd or sonic 2
FINALLY WE GOT A SONIC 2 CD!
This hack exceeded my expectations. 👍
Funny, last time i checked, hill top was the past of emerald hill and cbemical plant was the bad future, also to note that dust hill was the ruin time present.
1:04 yay Hill top!!!! oh... what?
theres a rather large difference between fighting robotnik in the bad future and any other time.
in the bad future it doesn't matter what you do, robotnik has already won and you're just bothering him
the good future feels more like he already lost but he thinks he still has some kind of chance
in the present its just another tuesday
in the past its another tuesday but with different colors
*Emerald Hill*
Present: Emerald Hill
Past: Tapiz Lazuli Hill
Good Future: Rainbow Hill
Bad Future: Orange Hill
*Oil Ocean*
Present: Oil Ocean
Past: Salt Ocean
Good Future: ?????
Bad Future: Vinegar Ocean
*Aquatic Ruin*
Present: Aquatic Ruin
Past: Underwater Unruined
Good Future: ???
Bad Future: Aquatic Orange-Ruined
*Death Egg*
Present: Death Egg
Past: ???
Good Future: ???
Bad Future: ???
Past opinions:
Emerald hill Past: Deadly
Oil ocean past: Peaceful
Aquatic ruin past: Nothing different
Death egg past: Isn’t there any?
Future opinions:
Emerald hill Future: Fine
Oil ocean future: MY EYES!!!
Aquatic ruin Future: It’s not Halloween!
Death egg future: nope none
Ideas: Chim. Plant zone
Good past: instead off goo now there's water.
Bad past: the goo it burning...
Good future: now there's gray goo and metallic ground and background
Bad future: now everything it ruined by metal...
Casino night:
Good past: there's more safe
Bad past: everything it not built and it very broken
Good future: everything it more electric and good
Bad future:there's to many gas and broken ground
Should've made it like how it was originally going to be. Hill Top being Past Emerald Hill
Sonic 2 is (literally) a Blast from the past... And future too
1:18 Slow
1:20 Real
The Speed Shoes in Emerald Hill Past is the same tempo as the Present Emerald Hill.
The Future version of Emrald Hill is actually Hill Top Zone if not to be mistaken
The past oil ocean zone looks more like a good future
I really like the mania style sprites they kinda remind me of the beta sprites from sonic 1
Woe, please like, finish this. To cool of a project to leave half done.
So Sonic 2, but it kept the time travel feature originally supposed to be there.
Aquatic ruin in future is kinda like halloween style of it. And the past is Just like "old" style.
I wonder what Casino Night Looks like if it had a past, good and bad future? Also the other stages too.
4:18 oil ocean act 2 remix in sonic 2 style
Link for donwload of apk? Please
that was awsome razor and zenon are the best
that dance at the first boss was hilarious 3.00 min
they made the time travel mechanic fun? WHAT
is it me or the past version of emerald hill zone when you use speed shoes it sounds normal?
wish aquatic ruin past was a ancient city, and future had even fewer standing structures
Man! I loved!
So I noticed a thing. Do you have something against shields or is it a pride thing?
1:18
2:35 upgrade
OH NO GO BACK
So if you’re playing as Metal Sonic in the Death Egg race, we can only guess that the character chasing him with the laser would be Tails or Knuckles and not Robotnik
Or SONIC
I'm really interested what do it look when it was the past of aquatic run
This game doesn't even boot on real hardware, just get an ''illegal sram'' message.
Do the switches do anything in oil ocean nothing seems to happen if u don’t pull them bodies the back ground