Found your channel and subscribed. Your presentations are packed and concise. You don't waste our time with fluff and filler to stretch out the run time. I hope you post more. Nikon and m43 are my formats.
Hey Sunny, thanks for the sub! And thanks for the very encouraging words - I very much appreciate them! I’m working on some more videos at the moment. Thanks again.
Well done! I have the 40mm and use it, for now, on my Z6. It performs as I expected. I don't do video work, so the motor noise, insignificant to my 78 year old ears, is not an issue. I bought it for the focal length and small size, which makes my Z6 similar overall size to my Lumix G9. I find that using a fixed focal length lens gives me a different perspective on shooting, which was one of my goals. When I saw it on sale, I couldn't pass up the opportunity. When I desire more flexibility and less footwork, I use the 24 - 70 F4. Thank you for your observations.
Hey Bob, thanks very much for your words of encouragement. The 40mm and 24-70 f4 go very well with the Z6. There’s a lot of capability in that package. And I find the Z6 easier to create images with than my E-M1 mk iii which is itself a proficient camera. I’ve had the Z6 for over 5 years and I won’t be parting with it.
I am your 701 subscriber! Your video is very informative and useful. I have my 40mm f2 as well and won't be selling for the exact reasons. Small, fast, and light for daily street photo.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I'm a newcomer to the Nikon system, and this video helped me decide on my next prime lens. Best regards from Sao Paulo, Brazil!
Hey Jose - thanks for checking out the video. I think you’ll very much enjoy the Nikon Z system. Which camera body did you buy and which lenses do you have already?
I laughed out loud at the reference to your "simple brain" ... furthest thing from! Another incredible video. I marvel at the depth of your knowledge on every detail ...down to the most obscure! Amazing!
That’s a really informative video, thank you. I’m on the verge of moving from a D610 to mirrorless, and have an occasional use for close up environmental portraits and was looking at the 40mm. Like you, I’ve been coming across conflicting accounts, for which you’ve given a clear and reasonable, evidenced explanation, thank you. I think I’ll be passing on the 40 f/2 and will just come at that area in a different way with the longer primes that are on my list. I’ve watched a few of your videos and really like your style and your acknowledgement of confirmation bias - unique in all the reviews and comments I’ve seen. Cheers!
Hey Fink, many thanks for your thoughtful comments. I think pretty much all products have pros and cons and it’s our preferences and tolerance to flaws that determine whether a product is right for us. A review should hopefully surface the strengths and weaknesses and then the user of the review can determine if they’re happy with a given set of compromises for their use case. I try to overcome my initial biases and preferences to look at the range of pros and cons. I’m very happy you find value in my approach. Thanks again!
The short comings of this lens are exactly the reason why it is so good it has the character that is sadly missing from the over clinical near perfection of the 35 and 50mm alternatives. I use this lens for close up, and astro work, both wide open and stopped down. I absolutely love this lens, get close to subjects and you can get the swirly bokeh and character without the hassle of expensive manual focus vintage lenses. this lens is one that you have to work with and know well to get get the best out of. I use this lens professionally and not one customer has ever complained about image quality or softness on the corners.
Thanks for checking out the video and for your comment. The great thing about the maturing Nikon Z system is the choice we have. We all have different shooting styles and preferences and we’re fortunate to have options that cater to those tastes. Thanks again.
Hey Marco, I’m not compelled to buy the 26mm f2.8. I really like the compact size but it’s expensive for a lens that doesn’t stack up to S line quality as nearly similar prices. I have been known to change my mine though….!
I liked your video, although this lens has done very well on the Z_f for me, adequately sharp and consistent. I do wish it had rings for both focus and aperture. I have no qualms about reaching for it in a pinch and love its rendering at f 2. Bonus points to you for the cemetary+skyline photos. I've driven by there many times and have always wanted to shoot those!
Hey Britt, thanks for checking out the video and leaving the comment. Many people are really enjoying the 40mm f2 - glad you are too! I need to revisit the cemetery with a few lens options and see if I can improve my images. V cool place with amazing views of the skyline. You should definitely carve out some time to visit! Thanks again.
Thanks for this great critical and honest review 👍 As someone who’s interested in potentially switching from Canon to Nikon, your views and insights are very valuable to me 🙏
@@jonneavehello John, you know the old saying - the grass is always greener... :) I’ve been an extremely happy Canon shooter and my R5 is the absolute best camera i ever used (Aren’t we spoiled to live in these exciting times where cameras have evolved this much?!) Then there are these relatively small and light Nikon super Tele lenses that I’ve been infatuated ever since I’ve heard about them. Since I’m shooting a lot of wildlife, such a portable option as an addition to something even larger and “faster” is a great offering. This is a perfect example of a first world problem :) And these small prime lenses along also sound very compelling (as does the 24-70 f4 for it’s apparent sharpness, size + weight. If I could afford it I’d have both systems or have them both for extended periods of time to really get a feeling if this all isn’t just too good to be true? I guess I’m somewhat polycamerous 🌈😇 With love from Vienna
A very fair review. I tried this lens more in a landscape scenario than close in/ street shooting and whilst I wanted to like it for its size and weight I wasn't happy with the results so I returned it. Its the only Z series lens I've not been happy with!
I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and for leaving a comment. The 40mm is a polarizing lens. It seems to leave people feeling cold or loving it. What do you use now instead of the 40mm?
Thank you I agree with the summery. I also found it to soft wide open and hurried to sell it off which I don't regret. I was happy to buy the 50mm F1.8S even though much more expensive, all though second hand, was pretty cheap really for the quality.
Hey Mark, thanks for watching the video and for taking the time to comment. The 50 f1.8 has very few limitations though you could argue it’s larger than previous generations of 50mm lenses but the performance envelope is so much of an improvement. Enjoy your lens!
Thanks for the video, very insightful! I am new to Nikon and I just got the Z5 with this lens for casual/travel photography. I find it good enough for the price but it’s obviously a lens that prioritises the form factor over performance and for that it’s great. I have the ‘special edition’ as it was the only one in stock in the shop. Do you know if it’s optically different from the regular edition or is it just the same lens with different aesthetics?
Hey Ramon, congrats on the new camera! I think you’ve pretty much nailed the 40mm f2. It’s built to a price and a size and has some appreciable strengths. The SE is optically identical to the regular 40mm f2. I think the SE looks the nicer of the two. Enjoy your new cam!
Great review, and I'm still on the fence about buying this one. Just curious, i have the adapter and among my lens is the 35 1.8 G DX ( works very well on my D7100 and my D50 that I still use occasionally.) I'm wondering if i should just stick with that one for my Z5, the loss of reach and the cropping won't be a big deal for me, I'm more concerned with optical quality. Thank you in advance and you also have a new subscriber.
Hey LovelyPeople - thanks very much for checking out the video and for subscribing! I very much appreciate it! I would pop your lens on your Z5 and see if are happy with it. I’ve been through a similar thought process: technically the 40mm f2 isn’t as good as the 50 S f1.8 but in most everyday use cases I will not care. I’ve been working on a review of the 28mm f2.8 and its very much in the vein of the 40mm f2, but strapped to a Z6 its a very compact package that I’m happy to grab and do some casual shooting with. The 50mm f1.8 requires slightly more commitment to take out. Long story short, try your lens - I think you’ll understand your points of friction more clearly and then you’ll make an informed decision of whether the 40mm f2 might give you something you don’t already have/cant live without. Good luck!
UA-cam review motivations are (generally) based on monetary motivations where forums are not. I tend to trust a more balanced view from the forums but enjoy the visuals of YT reviews, I just take that into consideration when watching a review. I think you pointed out the strengths and weaknesses well. I find it fills a spot in my bag that another lens doesn’t, small, light, cheap. The 50mm 1.8S fills a different spot. I don’t expect them to fill the same spot. I do wish the 40mm wasn’t so void of character in build, it’s purely aesthetics but I found I really liked the SE version better. Also, I don’t like not having a MF/AF switch but immediate MF override works so smoothly on that lens I find it doesn’t need the switch. The override on the SE version (to me) is far superior to the non-SE version. Great video.
Hey Scott, thanks for checking out the video and for your thoughtful comment. I am not getting compensated for any of my reviews. I approach them from a perspective of what would I have wanted to know before I bought the product. Naturally, somethings are relevant to some individuals and not to others but I try to pull out the spectrum of pros and cons so people can make their own assessment of whether the product is appropriate for them. Thanks again.
I bought this lens almost as soon as I went mirrorless with a Z7. It is small, cheap and fast. And there really isn't anything comparable that is also small, cheap and fast. I'm not sure what more really needs to be said. It stays on my Z7 most of the time because when it is on there I'm much more likely to pick it up and take it with me compared to my larger S lenses. I'm not a pixel peeper or a measure-bater so the perceived weaknesses of this lens have never been an issue for me. I have had no focus issues. Given its readily apparent limitations (cheap, light, simple design) I find this to be one of my favorite lenses. For potential buyers: Don't overthink it. Find a used one, get it, use it , enjoy it and remember if it were small, fast and perfect you probably wouldn't be able to afford it.
Hey George, thanks for checking out the video and for taking the time to comment. I think for many/most people your sentiments ring true. Others may frequently shoot in a style that runs into the limitations of the lens (eg portraits, wide open & close up) and will end up disappointed. I can understand the views of both camps. Thanks again.
@@jonneave Agreed. My point is that it seems that this level of disappointment is disproportionate to the cost and design of the lens (plastic mount, six elements!). One wonders what those folks were expecting for $226 (US), new. Anyway, I appreciate the thorough review but I also think reviewers need to keep things in context. I would reference Christopher Frost's balanced review of the lens which is generally positive and concludes: "There's not much more you can ask from of lens of this price point."
Hey George, thanks for the thoughts. I feel I explained the pros and the cons of the lens as I see them. I like Chris Frost though he is often reviewing a lens that he only has for a short while. I think this must preclude anyone from really knowing a lens the way you do if you shoot a lens over a longer period of time. I’m very much a longer focal length shooter and if I’m shooting wide, I am generally up close on my subject with the aperture wide open. When you take pictures in this manner with the 40mm f2, especially portraits, there are significant limitations. Is this unreasonable for a $300 lens, you’d have to answer that within your reference frame of value and priorities. When I initially bought the lens, I shot it a few times and thought it was disappointing. If you only shoot close up wide open, I think it would not be good value at any price. When, a year later, I used the lens further for other roles, it performs quite nicely. I think my review speaks to the overall performance of the lens and doesn’t seek to prioritize one use case over another, as I know folks have different preferences. But it’s all good that we have different preferences, priorities, perception of value and of balance. I appreciate your thoughts.
@@jonneave I think 10 years ago complaining about the performance of a $300 lens would be perfectly legit. Now, not so much since there is literally no other option for a lens of similar size for that price, which, by the way, is now $226, not $300. The ancient comparable F lens is the AF 50mm 1.8 is now $130! The AF-S version is $200. When someone, maybe Sigma, maybe a Chinese company, comes out with a small light cheap fast 40mm that outperforms it, then we'd have something to compare it to. Until then, comparing it to a faster, heavier, sharper and more expensive lens is like comparing a Miata to a Ferrari. I like your reviews but if they lack context then they run the risk of lacking real world application. Would I recommend it for someone who only shoots up close and wide open? Of course not. But I would wonder why they expected such a lens to do so to begin with.
I think as long as you keep it between 5.6 and 11, it’s a fantastic performer. However, if a lens does not perform at its widest aperture, what’s the point? This 40mm reminds me a bit of the Fuji 23 f2 - great results when subject is at a distance, but falls apart when close focusing. Ideal use case is street photography for sure. Nice well thought out review!
Many thanks for checking out the video and for the kind words. I’d agree that needing to stop down does limit the point of having a pretty fast maximum aperture. If I were choosing between the z 24-70 f4 as current used prices or the 40mm f2, I’d opt for the zoom but everyone has different use cases and priorities. Thanks again.
Hey Owii, thanks for checking out the video. That is an interesting question. I’d say unless you ‘really’ love the 35mm focal length, I think the 40m with a small crop gets you much of the same look. If you’re after a step up in quality and demand the specific look of 35mm then the 35mm f1.8 is likely your best option, but it’s obviously at a cost. I dont own the 35mm f1.8 as I broadly have it covered between the 40mm f2 and the 24-70 f2.8 but some folks absolutely cherish a 35mm prime. Good luck!
I compared both recently and the 35 is considerably crisper wide open, from center to corners, and that advantage is kept till around f/5.6. I'll purchase that 35 as soon as bank account says "yes".
Despite it's imperfections I like this little lens, it's small and light enough to stick in my camera bag and not know it's there. Two stops faster than the 24-70 F4 it's great for low light situations, I shoot mainly landscape with some street, not really people.
Hey Martyn - thanks for checking out the video and for taking the time to comment. I think the lens does a really nice job for street shooting and where the subject distance is not too close. It’s got character for sure. Thanks again.
Hey Luis, many people love this lens. If you avoid close up portraits wide open it’s a nice option. Good for group photos, street and general photography with what many people describe as film-like/non digital. Hopefully you’ll love it! Thanks for taking the time to leave the comment.
Many thanks Alek. It’s very similar in execution to the 40mm f2. Small, cheap and decent image quality much of the time. Soft close up but nicely sharp at most distances. But you’re only gaining one stop over the pretty compact 24-70 f4. And wide open the 28mm has high levels of vignetting and is susceptible to coma and chromatic aberration wide open. Nice easy lens for shooting street and likely has sufficient quality for most use cases. But the 24-70 f4 is a better lens which can be had cheap second hand. Good to have choices!
Greetings Jon, I've recently picked up a Nikon Z50 from a friend and I'm looking to get into a mix of general videography and filmmaking. I don't do that much photography but i tend to take a couple of pictures here and there. Is this a good lens for client video work and hobby filmmaking? There's currently one going for $180 at my local store. I'm still hesitating whether to pick it up or not due to the limitations that you mentioned, for instance the Z50 doesn't have any IBIS and nor does the 40mm, so I'm guessing I'm going to be using a gimbal more often? Regarding the magenta problem, can it be mediated using a flat profile? does it interfere with color grading? Thanks! EDIT: I forgot to mention that the Z50 is a crop sensor, i didn't take that into account so i'm guessting i won't be getting the 35/40mm full frame equivalent of the crop sensor? In this case should i go with the 28mm f2.8?
Hi Amine. Congrats on getting the Z50. It’s a solid if underrated camera which takes good quality 4k footage if you’re content with the limited range of formats. I don’t find the magenta shift much of a problem. If I’m shooting footage that I want to match with another camera, I’ll do a custom white balance on each of the cameras. I haven’t noticed a problem comparing the outputs from my various cameras using this approach but that said, I’m not overly sensitive to modest color profile differences. As for lenses, the 28mm f2.8 and the 40mm f2 are both solid options with pretty quiet focus motors. But as you said, there’s no stabilization in the body or those lenses unless you opt for electronic VR. One option that I’ve quite liked is the Nikon PZ VR 12-28mm. It’s definitely a slow lens from an aperture perspective but otherwise I find it a good lens for video on the Nikon crop bodies. And the VR is very nice for shooting video. Let me know which way you’re thinking of going! Thanks for leaving the comment.
Hey Lucid, thanks for the comment. Mine is pretty quiet for sure. I was just trying to point out the lens was not quite as silent as the Nikon marketing material would have us believe. If there is any ambient noise or you’re using a separate mic its never going to be an issue. Thanks for checking out the video.
Hey Oricoh, thanks for the thoughtful comment. The 40mm is pretty decent for the street - it just isn’t a close up portrait lens for sure. But there are other options - what focal lengths do you like to shoot?
@@jonneave I like wide, I currently use the 24-70mm f/4s (kit) most of the time, but its usually around 24-35mm. It's not a bad lens but it attracts too much attention and I am looking for a small form factor.
I think the 40mm f2 may suit you nicely if you’re looking for something unimposing. I’ve taken some nice street style pictures with it and I’ve seen some great group shots taken by other owners. Otherwise, the 28mm f2.8 is a similar size but you’re only one stop better off than the 24-70 f4. Then there’s the 26mm f2.8 which really is a pancake but is $500 msrp - I’ve not used this lens. If you want a slightly longer focal length, the Nikon MC 50mm looks a very nice lens and isn’t a big lens. I haven’t tested any non Nikon lenses but there are other options. Good luck with your search.
I kind of tabled this lens when o got it also and left it as a car kit with my Z50. I revisited the lens when I purchased a ZF and i have to say that I do like the rendering of it although S line contrast, colors and sharpness is better. It falls into my ZF bag typically with the 28mm F/2.8 and the Voigtlander 50mm F/1.0 Z.
I was disappointed with close portrait performance of this 40mm on my Z6, and felt it did NOT live up the the hype from Monochrome Memoirs (& others.) I sold it on again and decided to stick with manual focusing my excellent 35mm f2 AF-D on the FTZ adapter. I use the Z 24-70 f4 for video.
Thanks for checking out the video Timmy. I think most of the positive reviews are from folks who are shooting at longer subject distances and don’t come across the short focus issue. I don’t use the Z 24-70 f4 very often but when I do I really appreciate it. Thanks again.
Hey Sramabadran, thanks for checking out the video. I made a review of the 28mm f2.8 where I commented on the performance similarities and differences to the 40mm. Check it out and let me know if you have any questions!
It is so sad that didn't see this video before I bought it yesterday... Luckily it was second-hand and maybe I will resell it further. I bought it as simple backup lens if my main f2.8 zoom lens fail, or I will need an extra stop of light. But I'm struggling to get sharp portraits indoors. Even tried in camera focus tuning, no luck.Tried on FX Z5 and DX Z30. It not only misses focus, but also the "in-focus" is SOFT! on f2. I do not need a lens with "f2" that I must use only on f4... I could expect this from various 3rd party chinese lenses, but not from Nikon itself... suppose Viltrox 50mm f1.8 for the same price would be even better, but I went for name and size. Sadly, but seems most reviews are sponsored or they do not test it in low light conditions where this (or any other f2) lens should be used....
Hey IG, thanks for checking out the video and for taking the time to comment. I had the same feeling about the lens when I bought it. I think people that shoot general/street/group photography are generally very pleased with the lens. But those folks who shoot indoor portraits and need the maximum aperture will be left scratching their heads. I suspect most reviewers only have the lens for a short period of time. I'm not sure they are disingenuous but you can totally miss certain attributes if you don't spend much time with a lens and have a preferred style of shooting. I don't think it's a focus calibration/copy issue as there are a number of reports in the forums about this issue. I'm sorry you've had a poor experience.
You are absolutely right. It's a nice lens, it has a few flaws, but the biggest one is that it hates close range. And that's a major drawback. Close distance shots are dramatically bad.
That’s pretty much my experience - very nice little lens unless you’re close up and especially wide open! Thanks very much for taking the time to comment.
@@jonneave please maintain this good method & unbiased review format., in addition to personal experience, balanced with the cross reference to online forums feedback and comments are very much appreciated. kudos to your effort. i subscribed after watching your first vid
The 40 mm is Nikon's cheapest or one of the cheapest Z lens from the parent company, it's a piece of plastic fun that can render pleasing images. It's tiny. I bought a used 50mm 1.8 S for 399, it's obviously larger but sharp as a razor. I'd also be happy with a 40 f2 to kerp the rig discreet and have some fun. No complaints
It’s great to have choices - we can decide what is important to us and chose a lens based on those views. Good times to be a photographer! Thanks for checking out the video and for taking the time to comment.
Thanks for checking out the video and for the insightful comment. Lots of folks really like it but I think it’s highly dependent on shooting styles and subjects. Thanks again.
Thanks for checking out the video. It does well in that role as long as you’re not very close up and wide open. Otherwise, it’s solidly competent. Thanks again.
Metal mount 40mm...This lens isn't perfect, but good enough, n has some good character,,I changed the mount,and gasket,taken from old ftz adapter ,,it definitely feels more robust,,the only thing I dint like is the plastic mount ,,I have other expensive prmes but,,this is very small n lite weight,,, They produced 2 versions of the lens. One of them should have just had a metal mount but I got mines now.
Hi. Thanks for watching the video and taking the time to comment. I would broadly agree with your sentiment though I think it depends on use-case. But for general/street type photography and groups at reasonable distances, it’s a fine little lens. Thanks again.
If I had one I definitely would but I can’t really justify the expense for something id use infrequently. If the MC 50 refurbs goes on sale I might be able to swing it….. And the major benefit of pixel shift for my use is fundamentally reducing noise in the image. Thanks for watching the video and for commenting.
Hey James, it’s far from being bad but it does have some limitations. And as you say, there are some compelling third party alternates. Thanks for checking out the video!
The 40mm f2 pairs well with zfc z5 and Zf but I don’t see me putting it on a high pixel camera in all honesty but for the price compared to the price of the Z50mm f1.8 it a great little lightweight option Thanks for the review 👍🏼
Hey Phiggys, thanks for checking out the video. It’s an interesting lens. If you want a compact lens for shooting street, it’s hard to beat within the Nikon line-up. I’d like to try the MC 50mm at some point…! Enjoy shooting!
I like the 40mm for stills but my only real complaint is some Aperture Flutter. I normally dont buy lenses with plastic mounts but its so light that it shgouldn't mastter...🦘
Thanks for the comment Roy. How big a deal do you find the aperture flutter? Similar to you, the lens mount is pretty much a non issue for me given how light the lens is.
Found your channel and subscribed. Your presentations are packed and concise. You don't waste our time with fluff and filler to stretch out the run time. I hope you post more. Nikon and m43 are my formats.
Hey Sunny, thanks for the sub! And thanks for the very encouraging words - I very much appreciate them! I’m working on some more videos at the moment. Thanks again.
Well done! I have the 40mm and use it, for now, on my Z6. It performs as I expected. I don't do video work, so the motor noise, insignificant to my 78 year old ears, is not an issue. I bought it for the focal length and small size, which makes my Z6 similar overall size to my Lumix G9. I find that using a fixed focal length lens gives me a different perspective on shooting, which was one of my goals. When I saw it on sale, I couldn't pass up the opportunity. When I desire more flexibility and less footwork, I use the 24 - 70 F4. Thank you for your observations.
Hey Bob, thanks very much for your words of encouragement. The 40mm and 24-70 f4 go very well with the Z6. There’s a lot of capability in that package. And I find the Z6 easier to create images with than my E-M1 mk iii which is itself a proficient camera. I’ve had the Z6 for over 5 years and I won’t be parting with it.
I am your 701 subscriber! Your video is very informative and useful. I have my 40mm f2 as well and won't be selling for the exact reasons. Small, fast, and light for daily street photo.
Thanks for the sub Steve! Very glad you’re enjoying your 40mm f2!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I'm a newcomer to the Nikon system, and this video helped me decide on my next prime lens. Best regards from Sao Paulo, Brazil!
Hey Jose - thanks for checking out the video. I think you’ll very much enjoy the Nikon Z system. Which camera body did you buy and which lenses do you have already?
Really enjoyed this video! I believe I will be looking at some of the other options you discussed.
Thanks Steve! Kind of you to check out the video and comment!
I laughed out loud at the reference to your "simple brain" ... furthest thing from! Another incredible video. I marvel at the depth of your knowledge on every detail ...down to the most obscure! Amazing!
Thanks for the (too) kind comments! Glad you enjoyed it! Obscure is an under appreciated talent!
That’s a really informative video, thank you. I’m on the verge of moving from a D610 to mirrorless, and have an occasional use for close up environmental portraits and was looking at the 40mm. Like you, I’ve been coming across conflicting accounts, for which you’ve given a clear and reasonable, evidenced explanation, thank you. I think I’ll be passing on the 40 f/2 and will just come at that area in a different way with the longer primes that are on my list.
I’ve watched a few of your videos and really like your style and your acknowledgement of confirmation bias - unique in all the reviews and comments I’ve seen. Cheers!
Hey Fink, many thanks for your thoughtful comments.
I think pretty much all products have pros and cons and it’s our preferences and tolerance to flaws that determine whether a product is right for us. A review should hopefully surface the strengths and weaknesses and then the user of the review can determine if they’re happy with a given set of compromises for their use case.
I try to overcome my initial biases and preferences to look at the range of pros and cons.
I’m very happy you find value in my approach. Thanks again!
The short comings of this lens are exactly the reason why it is so good it has the character that is sadly missing from the over clinical near perfection of the 35 and 50mm alternatives. I use this lens for close up, and astro work, both wide open and stopped down. I absolutely love this lens, get close to subjects and you can get the swirly bokeh and character without the hassle of expensive manual focus vintage lenses.
this lens is one that you have to work with and know well to get get the best out of. I use this lens professionally and not one customer has ever complained about image quality or softness on the corners.
Thanks for checking out the video and for your comment.
The great thing about the maturing Nikon Z system is the choice we have.
We all have different shooting styles and preferences and we’re fortunate to have options that cater to those tastes.
Thanks again.
Very insightful and thorough Jon, great review!
Many thanks Marco - I’m glad you liked it! Thanks for checking it out.
Any plans on reviewing the Z 26mm f2.8? I’d be very interested in that!
Hey Marco, I’m not compelled to buy the 26mm f2.8. I really like the compact size but it’s expensive for a lens that doesn’t stack up to S line quality as nearly similar prices. I have been known to change my mine though….!
Interesting review. I have one, but have only used it once and loved the results.
Thanks for watching video Michael. It’s a fun lens if you’re not shooting portraits close up wide open. Enjoy!
very comprehensive and fair review! Thanks for sharing
I’m glad you took the time to watch it and for the thoughtful comment Henry!
I liked your video, although this lens has done very well on the Z_f for me, adequately sharp and consistent. I do wish it had rings for both focus and aperture. I have no qualms about reaching for it in a pinch and love its rendering at f 2. Bonus points to you for the cemetary+skyline photos. I've driven by there many times and have always wanted to shoot those!
Hey Britt, thanks for checking out the video and leaving the comment. Many people are really enjoying the 40mm f2 - glad you are too! I need to revisit the cemetery with a few lens options and see if I can improve my images. V cool place with amazing views of the skyline. You should definitely carve out some time to visit! Thanks again.
Thanks for this great critical and honest review 👍
As someone who’s interested in potentially switching from Canon to Nikon, your views and insights are very valuable to me 🙏
Hey Michael, many thanks for your kind words. I’m very pleased you found value in it. Why are you looking to switch from Canon to Nikon?
@@jonneavehello John, you know the old saying - the grass is always greener... :)
I’ve been an extremely happy Canon shooter and my R5 is the absolute best camera i ever used (Aren’t we spoiled to live in these exciting times where cameras have evolved this much?!)
Then there are these relatively small and light Nikon super Tele lenses that I’ve been infatuated ever since I’ve heard about them.
Since I’m shooting a lot of wildlife, such a portable option as an addition to something even larger and “faster” is a great offering.
This is a perfect example of a first world problem :)
And these small prime lenses along also sound very compelling (as does the 24-70 f4 for it’s apparent sharpness, size + weight.
If I could afford it I’d have both systems or have them both for extended periods of time to really get a feeling if this all isn’t just too good to be true? I guess I’m somewhat polycamerous 🌈😇
With love from Vienna
A very fair review. I tried this lens more in a landscape scenario than close in/ street shooting and whilst I wanted to like it for its size and weight I wasn't happy with the results so I returned it. Its the only Z series lens I've not been happy with!
I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and for leaving a comment. The 40mm is a polarizing lens. It seems to leave people feeling cold or loving it. What do you use now instead of the 40mm?
Thank you I agree with the summery. I also found it to soft wide open and hurried to sell it off which I don't regret. I was happy to buy the 50mm F1.8S even though much more expensive, all though second hand, was pretty cheap really for the quality.
Hey Mark, thanks for watching the video and for taking the time to comment. The 50 f1.8 has very few limitations though you could argue it’s larger than previous generations of 50mm lenses but the performance envelope is so much of an improvement. Enjoy your lens!
Thanks for the video, very insightful!
I am new to Nikon and I just got the Z5 with this lens for casual/travel photography. I find it good enough for the price but it’s obviously a lens that prioritises the form factor over performance and for that it’s great.
I have the ‘special edition’ as it was the only one in stock in the shop. Do you know if it’s optically different from the regular edition or is it just the same lens with different aesthetics?
Hey Ramon, congrats on the new camera! I think you’ve pretty much nailed the 40mm f2. It’s built to a price and a size and has some appreciable strengths. The SE is optically identical to the regular 40mm f2. I think the SE looks the nicer of the two. Enjoy your new cam!
Great review, and I'm still on the fence about buying this one. Just curious, i have the adapter and among my lens is the 35 1.8 G DX ( works very well on my D7100 and my D50 that I still use occasionally.) I'm wondering if i should just stick with that one for my Z5, the loss of reach and the cropping won't be a big deal for me, I'm more concerned with optical quality. Thank you in advance and you also have a new subscriber.
Hey LovelyPeople - thanks very much for checking out the video and for subscribing! I very much appreciate it! I would pop your lens on your Z5 and see if are happy with it. I’ve been through a similar thought process: technically the 40mm f2 isn’t as good as the 50 S f1.8 but in most everyday use cases I will not care. I’ve been working on a review of the 28mm f2.8 and its very much in the vein of the 40mm f2, but strapped to a Z6 its a very compact package that I’m happy to grab and do some casual shooting with. The 50mm f1.8 requires slightly more commitment to take out.
Long story short, try your lens - I think you’ll understand your points of friction more clearly and then you’ll make an informed decision of whether the 40mm f2 might give you something you don’t already have/cant live without.
Good luck!
Detailed and fair..subscribed
Much appreciated Boodee - and thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
UA-cam review motivations are (generally) based on monetary motivations where forums are not. I tend to trust a more balanced view from the forums but enjoy the visuals of YT reviews, I just take that into consideration when watching a review. I think you pointed out the strengths and weaknesses well. I find it fills a spot in my bag that another lens doesn’t, small, light, cheap. The 50mm 1.8S fills a different spot. I don’t expect them to fill the same spot. I do wish the 40mm wasn’t so void of character in build, it’s purely aesthetics but I found I really liked the SE version better. Also, I don’t like not having a MF/AF switch but immediate MF override works so smoothly on that lens I find it doesn’t need the switch. The override on the SE version (to me) is far superior to the non-SE version. Great video.
Hey Scott, thanks for checking out the video and for your thoughtful comment. I am not getting compensated for any of my reviews. I approach them from a perspective of what would I have wanted to know before I bought the product. Naturally, somethings are relevant to some individuals and not to others but I try to pull out the spectrum of pros and cons so people can make their own assessment of whether the product is appropriate for them. Thanks again.
I bought this lens almost as soon as I went mirrorless with a Z7. It is small, cheap and fast. And there really isn't anything comparable that is also small, cheap and fast. I'm not sure what more really needs to be said. It stays on my Z7 most of the time because when it is on there I'm much more likely to pick it up and take it with me compared to my larger S lenses.
I'm not a pixel peeper or a measure-bater so the perceived weaknesses of this lens have never been an issue for me. I have had no focus issues.
Given its readily apparent limitations (cheap, light, simple design) I find this to be one of my favorite lenses.
For potential buyers: Don't overthink it. Find a used one, get it, use it , enjoy it and remember if it were small, fast and perfect you probably wouldn't be able to afford it.
Hey George, thanks for checking out the video and for taking the time to comment. I think for many/most people your sentiments ring true. Others may frequently shoot in a style that runs into the limitations of the lens (eg portraits, wide open & close up) and will end up disappointed. I can understand the views of both camps. Thanks again.
@@jonneave Agreed. My point is that it seems that this level of disappointment is disproportionate to the cost and design of the lens (plastic mount, six elements!). One wonders what those folks were expecting for $226 (US), new. Anyway, I appreciate the thorough review but I also think reviewers need to keep things in context. I would reference Christopher Frost's balanced review of the lens which is generally positive and concludes: "There's not much more you can ask from of lens of this price point."
Hey George, thanks for the thoughts. I feel I explained the pros and the cons of the lens as I see them. I like Chris Frost though he is often reviewing a lens that he only has for a short while. I think this must preclude anyone from really knowing a lens the way you do if you shoot a lens over a longer period of time.
I’m very much a longer focal length shooter and if I’m shooting wide, I am generally up close on my subject with the aperture wide open. When you take pictures in this manner with the 40mm f2, especially portraits, there are significant limitations. Is this unreasonable for a $300 lens, you’d have to answer that within your reference frame of value and priorities.
When I initially bought the lens, I shot it a few times and thought it was disappointing. If you only shoot close up wide open, I think it would not be good value at any price. When, a year later, I used the lens further for other roles, it performs quite nicely. I think my review speaks to the overall performance of the lens and doesn’t seek to prioritize one use case over another, as I know folks have different preferences.
But it’s all good that we have different preferences, priorities, perception of value and of balance. I appreciate your thoughts.
@@jonneave I think 10 years ago complaining about the performance of a $300 lens would be perfectly legit. Now, not so much since there is literally no other option for a lens of similar size for that price, which, by the way, is now $226, not $300. The ancient comparable F lens is the AF 50mm 1.8 is now $130! The AF-S version is $200.
When someone, maybe Sigma, maybe a Chinese company, comes out with a small light cheap fast 40mm that outperforms it, then we'd have something to compare it to.
Until then, comparing it to a faster, heavier, sharper and more expensive lens is like comparing a Miata to a Ferrari.
I like your reviews but if they lack context then they run the risk of lacking real world application.
Would I recommend it for someone who only shoots up close and wide open? Of course not. But I would wonder why they expected such a lens to do so to begin with.
I think as long as you keep it between 5.6 and 11, it’s a fantastic performer. However, if a lens does not perform at its widest aperture, what’s the point? This 40mm reminds me a bit of the Fuji 23 f2 - great results when subject is at a distance, but falls apart when close focusing. Ideal use case is street photography for sure. Nice well thought out review!
Many thanks for checking out the video and for the kind words. I’d agree that needing to stop down does limit the point of having a pretty fast maximum aperture. If I were choosing between the z 24-70 f4 as current used prices or the 40mm f2, I’d opt for the zoom but everyone has different use cases and priorities. Thanks again.
yo, this is awesome especially the effects!!
Thanks JaeJae!
Awesome review! Love it! I got the Z40mm already, is it worth buying the z35mm 1.8s?
Hey Owii, thanks for checking out the video. That is an interesting question. I’d say unless you ‘really’ love the 35mm focal length, I think the 40m with a small crop gets you much of the same look. If you’re after a step up in quality and demand the specific look of 35mm then the 35mm f1.8 is likely your best option, but it’s obviously at a cost. I dont own the 35mm f1.8 as I broadly have it covered between the 40mm f2 and the 24-70 f2.8 but some folks absolutely cherish a 35mm prime. Good luck!
I compared both recently and the 35 is considerably crisper wide open, from center to corners, and that advantage is kept till around f/5.6. I'll purchase that 35 as soon as bank account says "yes".
Despite it's imperfections I like this little lens, it's small and light enough to stick in my camera bag and not know it's there. Two stops faster than the 24-70 F4 it's great for low light situations, I shoot mainly landscape with some street, not really people.
Hey Martyn - thanks for checking out the video and for taking the time to comment. I think the lens does a really nice job for street shooting and where the subject distance is not too close. It’s got character for sure. Thanks again.
I ordered this lens 4 hrs. ago. Now I'm not so happy. In any case, good video. We need honest reviewers.
Hey Luis, many people love this lens. If you avoid close up portraits wide open it’s a nice option. Good for group photos, street and general photography with what many people describe as film-like/non digital. Hopefully you’ll love it! Thanks for taking the time to leave the comment.
@@jonneave Tks for replying.
No worries - good luck!
Thanks very much for the balanced review, any thoughts on the Z 28/2.8?
Many thanks Alek. It’s very similar in execution to the 40mm f2. Small, cheap and decent image quality much of the time.
Soft close up but nicely sharp at most distances. But you’re only gaining one stop over the pretty compact 24-70 f4.
And wide open the 28mm has high levels of vignetting and is susceptible to coma and chromatic aberration wide open.
Nice easy lens for shooting street and likely has sufficient quality for most use cases. But the 24-70 f4 is a better lens which can be had cheap second hand. Good to have choices!
Thank you very much, very helpful and much appreciated
You’re very welcome.
Serious n presentable. U rock.
Many thanks J Wu! I’m glad you liked the video.
Greetings Jon, I've recently picked up a Nikon Z50 from a friend and I'm looking to get into a mix of general videography and filmmaking. I don't do that much photography but i tend to take a couple of pictures here and there.
Is this a good lens for client video work and hobby filmmaking? There's currently one going for $180 at my local store. I'm still hesitating whether to pick it up or not due to the limitations that you mentioned, for instance the Z50 doesn't have any IBIS and nor does the 40mm, so I'm guessing I'm going to be using a gimbal more often?
Regarding the magenta problem, can it be mediated using a flat profile? does it interfere with color grading?
Thanks!
EDIT: I forgot to mention that the Z50 is a crop sensor, i didn't take that into account so i'm guessting i won't be getting the 35/40mm full frame equivalent of the crop sensor? In this case should i go with the 28mm f2.8?
Hi Amine. Congrats on getting the Z50. It’s a solid if underrated camera which takes good quality 4k footage if you’re content with the limited range of formats. I don’t find the magenta shift much of a problem. If I’m shooting footage that I want to match with another camera, I’ll do a custom white balance on each of the cameras. I haven’t noticed a problem comparing the outputs from my various cameras using this approach but that said, I’m not overly sensitive to modest color profile differences.
As for lenses, the 28mm f2.8 and the 40mm f2 are both solid options with pretty quiet focus motors. But as you said, there’s no stabilization in the body or those lenses unless you opt for electronic VR. One option that I’ve quite liked is the Nikon PZ VR 12-28mm. It’s definitely a slow lens from an aperture perspective but otherwise I find it a good lens for video on the Nikon crop bodies. And the VR is very nice for shooting video.
Let me know which way you’re thinking of going! Thanks for leaving the comment.
Could it be your copy that has the AF noise? Mine doesn’t at all and I’ve been using it for interview video recordings.
Hey Lucid, thanks for the comment. Mine is pretty quiet for sure. I was just trying to point out the lens was not quite as silent as the Nikon marketing material would have us believe. If there is any ambient noise or you’re using a separate mic its never going to be an issue. Thanks for checking out the video.
A serious and balanced review, what's your recommendation for a better lens (mostly for street) that doesn't break the bank? many thanks.
Hey Oricoh, thanks for the thoughtful comment. The 40mm is pretty decent for the street - it just isn’t a close up portrait lens for sure. But there are other options - what focal lengths do you like to shoot?
@@jonneave I like wide, I currently use the 24-70mm f/4s (kit) most of the time, but its usually around 24-35mm. It's not a bad lens but it attracts too much attention and I am looking for a small form factor.
I think the 40mm f2 may suit you nicely if you’re looking for something unimposing. I’ve taken some nice street style pictures with it and I’ve seen some great group shots taken by other owners. Otherwise, the 28mm f2.8 is a similar size but you’re only one stop better off than the 24-70 f4. Then there’s the 26mm f2.8 which really is a pancake but is $500 msrp - I’ve not used this lens. If you want a slightly longer focal length, the Nikon MC 50mm looks a very nice lens and isn’t a big lens. I haven’t tested any non Nikon lenses but there are other options. Good luck with your search.
@@jonneave Many thanks, I'll check them out.
Good luck - let me know how you get on!
I kind of tabled this lens when o got it also and left it as a car kit with my Z50. I revisited the lens when I purchased a ZF and i have to say that I do like the rendering of it although S line contrast, colors and sharpness is better. It falls into my ZF bag typically with the 28mm F/2.8 and the Voigtlander 50mm F/1.0 Z.
It’s a handy little lens for a grab and go set up.
I was disappointed with close portrait performance of this 40mm on my Z6, and felt it did NOT live up the the hype from Monochrome Memoirs (& others.) I sold it on again and decided to stick with manual focusing my excellent 35mm f2 AF-D on the FTZ adapter. I use the Z 24-70 f4 for video.
Thanks for checking out the video Timmy. I think most of the positive reviews are from folks who are shooting at longer subject distances and don’t come across the short focus issue. I don’t use the Z 24-70 f4 very often but when I do I really appreciate it. Thanks again.
Which cam and lens using for this video
Hey Harip, it was on a Z8 with the 24-120 f4 at 4k/30 and AF-F. I’m at around 40mm focal length give or take. Thanks for checking out the video.
Curious to how you think it compares to the 28mm f/2.8
Hey Sramabadran, thanks for checking out the video. I made a review of the 28mm f2.8 where I commented on the performance similarities and differences to the 40mm. Check it out and let me know if you have any questions!
It is so sad that didn't see this video before I bought it yesterday... Luckily it was second-hand and maybe I will resell it further. I bought it as simple backup lens if my main f2.8 zoom lens fail, or I will need an extra stop of light. But I'm struggling to get sharp portraits indoors. Even tried in camera focus tuning, no luck.Tried on FX Z5 and DX Z30. It not only misses focus, but also the "in-focus" is SOFT! on f2. I do not need a lens with "f2" that I must use only on f4... I could expect this from various 3rd party chinese lenses, but not from Nikon itself... suppose Viltrox 50mm f1.8 for the same price would be even better, but I went for name and size. Sadly, but seems most reviews are sponsored or they do not test it in low light conditions where this (or any other f2) lens should be used....
Hey IG, thanks for checking out the video and for taking the time to comment.
I had the same feeling about the lens when I bought it. I think people that shoot general/street/group photography are generally very pleased with the lens. But those folks who shoot indoor portraits and need the maximum aperture will be left scratching their heads.
I suspect most reviewers only have the lens for a short period of time. I'm not sure they are disingenuous but you can totally miss certain attributes if you don't spend much time with a lens and have a preferred style of shooting.
I don't think it's a focus calibration/copy issue as there are a number of reports in the forums about this issue.
I'm sorry you've had a poor experience.
You are absolutely right. It's a nice lens, it has a few flaws, but the biggest one is that it hates close range. And that's a major drawback. Close distance shots are dramatically bad.
That’s pretty much my experience - very nice little lens unless you’re close up and especially wide open! Thanks very much for taking the time to comment.
I'm using my Z 40mm for street photography only!! with my Z8 or ZFC
Thanks for checking out the video. I hope you’re enjoying the lens. I have those two bodies and I love them both.
dead honest review. thanks
Many thanks Saz! I attempt to be thorough so folks can work out what is important to them. Thanks again.
@@jonneave please maintain this good method & unbiased review format., in addition to personal experience, balanced with the cross reference to online forums feedback and comments are very much appreciated. kudos to your effort. i subscribed after watching your first vid
I really appreciate the feedback! It’s very helpful to know the content is useful! And many thanks for the sub!!
The 40 mm is Nikon's cheapest or one of the cheapest Z lens from the parent company, it's a piece of plastic fun that can render pleasing images. It's tiny. I bought a used 50mm 1.8 S for 399, it's obviously larger but sharp as a razor. I'd also be happy with a 40 f2 to kerp the rig discreet and have some fun. No complaints
It’s great to have choices - we can decide what is important to us and chose a lens based on those views. Good times to be a photographer! Thanks for checking out the video and for taking the time to comment.
Had almost the same issues with the lens. The only Z lens, I didn't like. Sold it quickly ...
Thanks for checking out the video and for the insightful comment. Lots of folks really like it but I think it’s highly dependent on shooting styles and subjects. Thanks again.
Damn i thought i was listening to a jklenes review. You sound almost exactly like that guy.
I’ll have to check him out!
The 40mm makes a nice (not perfect) portrait lens for the DX cameras.
Thanks for checking out the video. It does well in that role as long as you’re not very close up and wide open. Otherwise, it’s solidly competent. Thanks again.
Metal mount 40mm...This lens isn't perfect, but good enough, n has some good character,,I changed the mount,and gasket,taken from old ftz adapter ,,it definitely feels more robust,,the only thing I dint like is the plastic mount ,,I have other expensive prmes but,,this is very small n lite weight,,, They produced 2 versions of the lens. One of them should have just had a metal mount but I got mines now.
I’m glad you’re enjoying the lens. How big of a job was it to switch out the mount?
Transfer took about ten minutes...not hard at all..8 screws,,no wire connection
Thanks for the reply. Interesting to know! Best
It’s the photographer who has the limitations and not the lens😂
Thanks for checking out the video.
Voigtlander 40mm f1.2 accept no substitutes.
I’ve not had the chance to use the Voightlander. Looks very compelling. What’s it like at f/1.2?
To be honest lenses are all CAD designed today , even 3rd party glass is acceptably sharp.
Hi. Thanks for watching the video and taking the time to comment. I would broadly agree with your sentiment though I think it depends on use-case. But for general/street type photography and groups at reasonable distances, it’s a fine little lens. Thanks again.
Why not use proper micro lenses?
If I had one I definitely would but I can’t really justify the expense for something id use infrequently. If the MC 50 refurbs goes on sale I might be able to swing it….. And the major benefit of pixel shift for my use is fundamentally reducing noise in the image. Thanks for watching the video and for commenting.
but 3rd party lens instead. This type of kit lens is never too good anyway.
Hey James, it’s far from being bad but it does have some limitations. And as you say, there are some compelling third party alternates. Thanks for checking out the video!
The 40mm f2 pairs well with zfc z5 and Zf but I don’t see me putting it on a high pixel camera in all honesty but for the price compared to the price of the Z50mm f1.8 it a great little lightweight option
Thanks for the review 👍🏼
Hey Phiggys, thanks for checking out the video. It’s an interesting lens. If you want a compact lens for shooting street, it’s hard to beat within the Nikon line-up. I’d like to try the MC 50mm at some point…! Enjoy shooting!
I like the 40mm for stills but my only real complaint is some Aperture Flutter.
I normally dont buy lenses with plastic mounts but its so light that it shgouldn't mastter...🦘
Thanks for the comment Roy. How big a deal do you find the aperture flutter? Similar to you, the lens mount is pretty much a non issue for me given how light the lens is.