Seth Lover neck overdriven: 0:00 Antiquity neck overdriven: 0:30 Seth Lover bridge overdriven: 0:15 Antiquity bridge overdriven: 0:44 Seth Lover neck clean: 1:42 Seth Lover bridge clean: 1:57 Antiquity neck clean: 2:13 Antiquity bridge clean: 2:27 I love these comparison videos! My pet peeve is when two like pickups are not compared side by side (bridge to bridge, neck to neck) because the human brain cannot remember 2 sounds back, which renders the comparison obsolete. Great tones and production quality though!
I've got a Seth bridge already (with a 59 Neck) and I think this video has made me realise I need to buy a set of Antiquities. The Antiquity sounds like a pickup where you can actually use the Neck pickup properly, without just loads of muddy woof.
I like the Antiquity's over the Seth's overall.. To my ears the Ants have a tighter, balanced sound while I find the Seth's a little looser, a little more microphonic is maybe what I am picking up on. I do like the Seth's on the clean, quieter, delicate passages but no more than the Ants. There are just some passages where I do not like the Seth bridge very much at all for the reasons I stated above. I could do a Seth Neck and Ant bridge and probably be happy, but I would rather go with the Ant's in both. Your comparisons are very good. I wouldn't mind seeing you edit to switch between pickups like go from neck to neck then bridge to bridge. But really your vids are about the best I have come across for my use. Thank you for doing it..
Yea, that’s the main complaint I get, but its just hard enough to maintain 4-5 clips per video and get them in order and stored for future use. If I do a single shootout, I usually do it that way, but when I do these 20-30 video series, its just easier on the brain After endless swaps, and filming in short periods of time. I appreciate the input and thanks for watching and kind words!!!
Good analysis, tommyd688. They are similar, but the more they're compared, especially via playing them, the more they begin to diverge. The Seth Lovers are often thought to be brighter and punchier, but I find the Antiquities to be the more dynamic and articulate. It's as if the Seth's have a blurriness to them and their softer attack doesn't help. I prefer the Antiquity's leaner presentation and sharper attack.
I’m leaning to the Lovers - seems to be less difference between the two pups which I like. I don’t like a drastic change when switching. The Anitiquities seem muffier and brighter in the two positions.
I'm getting a 2016 Les Paul Standard which is coming with a set of Antiquities installed already, can't wait! I also noticed you can hear the tubes rattle in the recording, are you using a combo? I notice because I had a Marshall combo which did the same thing and it always drove me crazy.
Very good comparison. The pups do exactly as they should. The Antiquties are basicly Seth lovers that have been broken in taking out the higher frequencies and softening the over all attack. Antiquities for the win!
the seth lover bridge is good, but the antiquiity is like the seth lover but more clear, and almost a single couil but just with MORE BALLS. i need to get these now!
Ant's definitely clearer with less low mids and a bit more chime, no doubt because of their weakened magnets. I like using a new/fully-charged A2 magnet for bridge position Antiquity humbuckers. Just a bit more meat.
The Antiquities have everything a great 50's PAF has...stunning tone! Seths aren't too shabby either haha! For me the Antiquities have a little more "mongrel & soul" when pushed.
I prefer the seth neck and the antiquity bridge. I have always heard that the seth bridge sounded hotter than the ant bridge because of the seth having a full strength magnet but the antiquitiy bridge sounds more aggressive here .
That's a tough one, honestly! I love Seths but, man...the Lollars are really hard to beat. It's way over said but, it really is all up to personal preference.
Like someone else's comment, I thought I would like the Ant's better, but I think I prefer the Seth's. I'm a sucker a growling bridge pickup which the Seth has over the Ant. The Ant's are not bad by any means and I'd probably buy them if hearing them alone. Compared to the Seth's though...well. My understanding is that both p/u sets use the same A2 magnet, but the Ant's are aged/weakened. The Ant's must have a higher wind-count which would account for the higher DCR measurement. The Seth's sound more powerful though. Comparing the Seth's to the Ant's is very much like comparing my 2001 R9 with original '57 Classics to my 2021 R9 with Custombuckers. On a different note, Seymour Duncan pickups are generally a fantastic bargain compared to pricey boutique pickups. Another great and very interesting comparison Visual Guy...thanks!
I did a lot of research about these because I was thinking of replacing the stock pups in my Studio. Antiquities and Seth Lovers are identical in construction the only difference is the Antiquities have weakened magnets.
@@VisualGuy I was going to get Seth Lovers based on watching your videos but a pair of Gibson 59 tributes were on ebay for a really good deal and I got those. They’re PAF burstbuckers with the slug coil wound hotter. If you can get your hands on them they might make a good comparison video but they’re somewhat rare because they only came in 2014 Gibsons for the 120th anniversary. The only way to get them is to pull them out of a guitar.
can I suggest you to edit these clips in the format neck a/neck b, bridge a/bridge b, instead of neck a, bridge a/neck b, bridge b? I think it's much more easy to get the comparison for who is watching (but I guess also a bit more challengin for who edit the video)
I’ve had that suggestion before, and when I do a “single” shootout, I do it that way. But these were part of a 28 video series, and the series before that had 48 videos in it! So its a lot harder to organize and manage 16-20 clips per video, rather than 8-10. From a storing perspective on drives to actually making sure I have them in the right order. My thoughts have always been, people should be watching on a computer with good audio, so opening two browsers wouldn’t be too much for someone really doing their research. None the less, I do understand that it would be easier for folks though, so I appreciate the feedback. If I do another run, I’ll try to do it that way. But at least we have “something” right? Cheers and thanks so much for watching!!!
I'm not sure what SD says the antiquity pickups are supposed to be. is it supposed to be how they would have sounded out of the factory, because the seth lovers sound almost identitcal to 57 classics.
I've dug through a lot of videos and still haven't found at least one demo of the RS/Fralins Paf (not talking about the true 60s). Do you have any plans on demoing them or even maybe comparing them to the true 60s or the Ants?
@@VisualGuy Oh damn that's cool. Well I for one would love to hear them (plus as I said there aren't any videos of them so it will be very helpful to a lot of people I think) but still the choice is yours. Love your videos btw keep it up!
Man, does Seymour make a bad pickup lol? Both sounds I fully associate with the LP classic tone we all love. I’d be happy to have either in my LP. Maybe slightly leaning towards Antiquity but it’s not lost on my that you can’t get The Whole picture on a UA-cam video and me playing them will sound different than you. Great comparison though. I don’t think anyone could go wrong no matter what they chose
Seth’s are wayyy better to my blues/classic rock ear. I have Ants in an R8 but changed the magnets to RcA4 n and UOA5 bridge...the degaussing A2 are flat, lifeless and make it sound like you use flat wound strings.
you played the least memorable and blandest of music of all times. No offense. You'd be great with a cheap chinese knock off and some basic duncan designed. That right there says it all.
It is a comparison. There is no need to play anything fancy. It should be simple and repeatable. Feel free to make a better video than I made and post it.
@@VisualGuy you seem butthurt, but i'm serious there's no need to get salty, your licks were mediocre at best. Don't worry about a phone tripod. I use a professional camera not phones, that's for poor people and wannabe influencers like you
![The Best PAF Clone! [Seymour Duncan Seth Lovers & Righteous Sound Pickups RAF Shootout]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/H5Qw9vP4SO0/mqdefault.jpg)
Seth Lover neck overdriven: 0:00
Antiquity neck overdriven: 0:30
Seth Lover bridge overdriven: 0:15
Antiquity bridge overdriven: 0:44
Seth Lover neck clean: 1:42
Seth Lover bridge clean: 1:57
Antiquity neck clean: 2:13
Antiquity bridge clean: 2:27
I love these comparison videos! My pet peeve is when two like pickups are not compared side by side (bridge to bridge, neck to neck) because the human brain cannot remember 2 sounds back, which renders the comparison obsolete. Great tones and production quality though!
0:00 0:30
0:14 0:44
0:59 1:21
1:09 1:31
1:42 2:13
1:57 2:27
2:43 3:13
2:57 3:27
3:43 4:02
3:51 4:10
I've got a Seth bridge already (with a 59 Neck) and I think this video has made me realise I need to buy a set of Antiquities.
The Antiquity sounds like a pickup where you can actually use the Neck pickup properly, without just loads of muddy woof.
Yes. They are superior in my opinion.
Seth’s for me, surprised thought I’d like the antiquities the best. Great job and holy crap what a ton of work!! The
Cheers man!
I like the Antiquity's over the Seth's overall.. To my ears the Ants have a tighter, balanced sound while I find the Seth's a little looser, a little more microphonic is maybe what I am picking up on. I do like the Seth's on the clean, quieter, delicate passages but no more than the Ants. There are just some passages where I do not like the Seth bridge very much at all for the reasons I stated above. I could do a Seth Neck and Ant bridge and probably be happy, but I would rather go with the Ant's in both.
Your comparisons are very good. I wouldn't mind seeing you edit to switch between pickups like go from neck to neck then bridge to bridge. But really your vids are about the best I have come across for my use.
Thank you for doing it..
Yea, that’s the main complaint I get, but its just hard enough to maintain 4-5 clips per video and get them in order and stored for future use. If I do a single shootout, I usually do it that way, but when I do these 20-30 video series, its just easier on the brain After endless swaps, and filming in short periods of time. I appreciate the input and thanks for watching and kind words!!!
Good analysis, tommyd688. They are similar, but the more they're compared, especially via playing them, the more they begin to diverge. The Seth Lovers are often thought to be brighter and punchier, but I find the Antiquities to be the more dynamic and articulate. It's as if the Seth's have a blurriness to them and their softer attack doesn't help. I prefer the Antiquity's leaner presentation and sharper attack.
(For my comparison. You guys can use it too.)
0:15 vs 0:43
1:09 vs 1:31
1:56 vs 2:27
2:57 vs 3:26
3:51 vs 4:10
Cheers!
@@VisualGuy Cutting between like pickup positions would be so much better in the future.
Thank you. That is helpful and in all four segments you listed, the Seth Lover sounds more musical to me. Antiquities sound thin.
I’m leaning to the Lovers - seems to be less difference between the two pups which I like. I don’t like a drastic change when switching. The Anitiquities seem muffier and brighter in the two positions.
Awesome! Hope you enjoy them. Thanks for watching hope you subscribe
I'm getting a 2016 Les Paul Standard which is coming with a set of Antiquities installed already, can't wait! I also noticed you can hear the tubes rattle in the recording, are you using a combo? I notice because I had a Marshall combo which did the same thing and it always drove me crazy.
Same Marshall vintage modern 2266c
Very good comparison. The pups do exactly as they should. The Antiquties are basicly Seth lovers that have been broken in taking out the higher frequencies and softening the over all attack. Antiquities for the win!
the seth lover bridge is good, but the antiquiity is like the seth lover but more clear, and almost a single couil but just with MORE BALLS. i need to get these now!
Antiquities are great!
Ant's definitely clearer with less low mids and a bit more chime, no doubt because of their weakened magnets. I like using a new/fully-charged A2 magnet for bridge position Antiquity humbuckers. Just a bit more meat.
Nice
The Antiquities have everything a great 50's PAF has...stunning tone! Seths aren't too shabby either haha! For me the Antiquities have a little more "mongrel & soul" when pushed.
I prefer the seth neck and the antiquity bridge. I have always heard that the seth bridge sounded hotter than the ant bridge because of the seth having a full strength magnet but the antiquitiy bridge sounds more aggressive here .
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Personally preferred the Seth Lovers here. Less harsh on bridge. So I suppose the question now would be Seth Lovers or Lollar Imperial? 😅
There are lots of questions! Haha
That's a tough one, honestly! I love Seths but, man...the Lollars are really hard to beat. It's way over said but, it really is all up to personal preference.
Like someone else's comment, I thought I would like the Ant's better, but I think I prefer the Seth's. I'm a sucker a growling bridge pickup which the Seth has over the Ant. The Ant's are not bad by any means and I'd probably buy them if hearing them alone. Compared to the Seth's though...well. My understanding is that both p/u sets use the same A2 magnet, but the Ant's are aged/weakened. The Ant's must have a higher wind-count which would account for the higher DCR measurement. The Seth's sound more powerful though. Comparing the Seth's to the Ant's is very much like comparing my 2001 R9 with original '57 Classics to my 2021 R9 with Custombuckers. On a different note, Seymour Duncan pickups are generally a fantastic bargain compared to pricey boutique pickups. Another great and very interesting comparison Visual Guy...thanks!
Cheers!!!!
I did a lot of research about these because I was thinking of replacing the stock pups in my Studio. Antiquities and Seth Lovers are identical in construction the only difference is the Antiquities have weakened magnets.
Yea, that’s what some forums say. Haven’t heard it from Seymour though.
@@VisualGuy I was going to get Seth Lovers based on watching your videos but a pair of Gibson 59 tributes were on ebay for a really good deal and I got those. They’re PAF burstbuckers with the slug coil wound hotter. If you can get your hands on them they might make a good comparison video but they’re somewhat rare because they only came in 2014 Gibsons for the 120th anniversary. The only way to get them is to pull them out of a guitar.
Or you could swap the magnets in the 61 burstbuckers from A5 to A2 magnets.
can I suggest you to edit these clips in the format neck a/neck b, bridge a/bridge b, instead of neck a, bridge a/neck b, bridge b? I think it's much more easy to get the comparison for who is watching (but I guess also a bit more challengin for who edit the video)
ah, sorry, I forgot to say that you did a great job in all these videos anyway
I’ve had that suggestion before, and when I do a “single” shootout, I do it that way. But these were part of a 28 video series, and the series before that had 48 videos in it! So its a lot harder to organize and manage 16-20 clips per video, rather than 8-10. From a storing perspective on drives to actually making sure I have them in the right order.
My thoughts have always been, people should be watching on a computer with good audio, so opening two browsers wouldn’t be too much for someone really doing their research. None the less, I do understand that it would be easier for folks though, so I appreciate the feedback. If I do another run, I’ll try to do it that way. But at least we have “something” right? Cheers and thanks so much for watching!!!
It's a close battle. Is it worth spending but more on antiquity. Ebay not too much more money.
Late to the party, but I see the bridge pickups as a draw and the neck goes (slightly) to the Antiquity. It is just a tiny bit brighter.
They both sound great! Have used both. Like Antiquity better, sweeter more complex, tone.
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Both pickups are the best, for ever. Nothing can be compared with 'em.
Lol
The Antiquities sound just a little bit sleepy next to the Seth Lovers.
I'm not sure what SD says the antiquity pickups are supposed to be. is it supposed to be how they would have sounded out of the factory, because the seth lovers sound almost identitcal to 57 classics.
Antiquities take the cake here for me in this test!
great demo.. Seth's slay here imho
I've dug through a lot of videos and still haven't found at least one demo of the RS/Fralins Paf (not talking about the true 60s). Do you have any plans on demoing them or even maybe comparing them to the true 60s or the Ants?
I may have access to a set. But I played them and they are pretty darn good. They have a little woodier character than the True 60s, typical to A4.
@@VisualGuy Oh damn that's cool. Well I for one would love to hear them (plus as I said there aren't any videos of them so it will be very helpful to a lot of people I think) but still the choice is yours. Love your videos btw keep it up!
Thanks so much!!!!
The antiquity sound more aggressive with more trebles. Seth's are mellower.
seth neck and ant bridge is the best of both worlds
Nice!
Seth Lovers for me.
Thanks for watching!
Man, does Seymour make a bad pickup lol? Both sounds I fully associate with the LP classic tone we all love. I’d be happy to have either in my LP. Maybe slightly leaning towards Antiquity but it’s not lost on my that you can’t get The Whole picture on a UA-cam video and me playing them will sound different than you. Great comparison though. I don’t think anyone could go wrong no matter what they chose
Agree!
Can't beat Seth lovers neck pickup. Splitting hairs my friend
Cheers!
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0:30 0:59 2:14
0:14 --- 0:44
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1:42 2:13
Seth’s are wayyy better to my blues/classic rock ear. I have Ants in an R8 but changed the magnets to RcA4 n and UOA5 bridge...the degaussing A2 are flat, lifeless and make it sound like you use flat wound strings.
Thanks for watching
Seth lovers much sweeter on the non grunge stuff
seth is near modern gibson's.. antiquity is near paf. both are best just different with each other
Interesting
you played the least memorable and blandest of music of all times. No offense. You'd be great with a cheap chinese knock off and some basic duncan designed. That right there says it all.
It is a comparison. There is no need to play anything fancy. It should be simple and repeatable. Feel free to make a better video than I made and post it.
@@VisualGuy sure but It will have kick ass riffs and angelic arpeggios not like your crap
@@AL_1991I subscribed to your account so I can see your cool video once you get your duncan design phone tripod off Temu. 🤣
@@VisualGuy you seem butthurt, but i'm serious there's no need to get salty, your licks were mediocre at best. Don't worry about a phone tripod. I use a professional camera not phones, that's for poor people and wannabe influencers like you
@@VisualGuy🤣🤣🤣