TALONFLAME IS GREAT (If You Actually Know How To Play It...)
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2023
- With the new Talonflame holowear I’m sure we are going to see more players pick up Talon so I wanted to show you how to play it in a way that actually helps the team! Enjoy this cool down talonflame build and match. Yeehaw Become a channel member today!:
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As a talonflame main since launch, talon no longer does well charging to the front of the lines and eliminating as many Pokémon as possible before it goes down like Absol, gengar, and zeraora. Heading to the back of the lines is always the way to go in a team fight, targeting squishy or low HP Pokémon or, if you play brave bird aerial ace, waiting for the enemies to be grouped up so you can get your aerial ace resets. This isn’t a bad Pokémon as long as he’s used correctly.
You could pick fly and target back lane mons.
But in this cc heavy meta, brave bird ain't it. You can't combo your Ariel ace at all to get the dmg out and healings. And you don't have any escape if you dive in.
On the other hand, you can use fly to get into team fights and if you feel like you're gonna die, you can flame charge out to escape or push with flame charge.
I love the brave bird build, but it's just so hard to do so. I really though they might give her a small bp buff
@@ChinnuSped true, I’ve been going strong with brave bird ever since the game launched, I love the build and it does not seem like I’m a detriment to the team, in fact probably the opposite, it’s definitely the harder build though especially in the current meta where tanky cc Pokémon are all over the place. Like brave bird talonflame isn’t doing anything to slowbro or blastoise. Fly is definitely the best move for beginners to both the game and talonflame, but I personally prefer brave bird aerial ace cause I’ve been using it ever since the game came out, I will switch to fly every once in a while though depending on what Pokémon I am fighting
As a talonflame main, I see this video as an absolute win
love that
Very helpful
W same I use brave bird flame charge
@@Cazrah you use WHAT?
same, bro...
Probably the only unite streamer who doesn’t randomly rage over an obvious outcome from their actions
Talonflame has been underrated for a long time
I think if people played it well it would be a good team pokemon
I just wanted to say that I am always amazed by your positive attitude when playing and tutoring us! Even if something goes wrong in a match or the enemy team is beating you, you praise their hard work and play style rather than allow yourself to become infuriated which is beautiful! The amount of hard work you put into your videos is amazing and as you mentioned before, you want to help us all be better players. Honestly you are the best content creator with the best mindset. Thank you so much for everything you do! 😊😊
10:38 is a perf example haha
Ty so much I picked talon as my starter and realized i wasnt doing enough damage so you tought me how thank you sooo much ❤
love this! hope this helps your games
I'm actually playing a brave bird/aerial ace talon with muscle band, scope lens and razor claw, and I'm basically an assasin that you can't see upfront, i jump on opps back row, make few aerial ace resets, pick a KO or two and disappear, it's pretty fun
They need battle item/ held item pages so you can switch a full set of items in one go. Pre-made pages that way you can switch for the build you want to play with.
0 replies? Let me fix that
100% agree with you!
They need that
i tried playing the birb with full crit stuff and float stone, and i may have done 150k damage and 15 kills…
next game i did 40k and we surrendered but we dont talk about that
Yeah, it's always kind of a 50/50 situation depending on the teammates and other things for the birb.
Nah it's just the matchmaking system giving you stronger opponents and low level teammates
Dude!! That escape was awesome. Did you realize it? Great use of mechanics to make it out. You even held until cooldown to then escape with fly.
I started playing Talonflame earlier this year. I made my own Cooldown build with 7 black emblems, energy amp, float stone, and razor claw, and it's been working pretty well! I've been getting better results than I used to with it. Thanks for the advice!
Score shield, Atk Weight and Float Stone, with Movement speed emblems is my go to build.
I've been going lane with it and its been amazing (bc im tired of fighting for jungle in solo q lol)
I think you have to go razor claw over attack weight, the value added in the fly -basic - flame charge - escape or basic again is huge and scales off of talons high attack stat. Stacks can be difficult in some games, esp. since talon is often jungling, and do not add as much proportionally to an already high attack stat. Also dominating in that first gank or two is really important as talon will fall off late game no matter what item set you use, and razor claw is best for that purpose.
I am looking forward to trying the black emblem set. I didnt realize it was an option now.
just started using talon yesterday, this video was perfect. ive experimented with both movesets but i feel like i enjoy brave ace better, but fly can be really fun too, i have to try that emblem build for sure!
i run cookie, weight and razor for brave ace
@@Kenny056 yup, you definitely have to be smart when you play it tho. especially against a good enemy team comp
I personally love Talonflame, and now I know more about it! Nice video
I don't know, i just love this pokemon so much. Like, it's a heckin fire hawk with one of the best design and cry in whole Pokemon universe. (Yep, fire type is my favourite type. And I like birds, eheh)
And he is still my main from very beginning of the game... kinda. Even tho it kinda lost it's value. But i still love my Talonflame.
I even used one in Pokemon Go back in the days and it did really well! I named him Gosha, btw :D
And later, after Pokemon Unite was released, I saw Talonflame on the starter pokemon choose screen and I immideately picked him. So, our time to reunite and shine has come once again. Not without pain and numerous failures, my pal Gosha managed to bring me to master rank every single season.
Unfortunatly, my birb isn't in a best spot right now :(
I hope, someday they will do something that will bring Talonflame back to meta, hehe~✨
I tried the build and boost emblems you recommended. That's freaking good and comfortable for this pokemon. In that game, I was experiencing lagging in first 4 mins of the game because of my wifi connection was unstable. After that, the connection was stable enough to take part in the game and I took buffs and knocked opposing pokemons out. I didn't score a ton of goals because I didn't have enough time because of poor wifi connection. But I somehow managed to score 96 goals and my team won the game. Not a bad one though. Thanks for your guidance for tips and tricks
The set I've been using is score shield, attack weights, score cookie (I used to use float stone). And my attacks was flame charge and fly. But I like Aerial ace for healing, and I went brave bird. Mainly cause it can get me in and out of a fight faster than. Fly .
The reason I went score shield is it makes it ezr to get attack weight stacks . earlier.. and having cookie for more hp means score shield's- shield is bigger.
Leaving some love you for here, Spragels.
Being a Athena main in Smite i quickly learned and fell in love with our Talo here.
Thanks dude! My playstyle with Tallon is the same as yours but I have not been using the right emblems. I'm not a back capper!
Playing this last night. If you read the unite from espeon, fly has a longer duration, so you can escape the damage and immediately punish
i didn't know you could do that! subbed!
I just thought of something. Acrobatics has such a good mechanic of balance in the main game. Why can it not be adopted by Unite? If you have 3 held items, it does base damage. If you have 2 held items, it gets a 15% damage increase and 5% crit chance. If you have 1 held item, you get 30% damage increase and 10% crit rate. And if you have NO held items, it gets 45% damage increase, 10% crit, and heals you a set amount
I'd like the gimmick build to have actual use. Held items change the game entirely. Having a pokemon focused on acrobatic's high burst damage sounds like a great speedster primary move. Take a pokemon like Crobat or Archeops in the game. Crobat has great speed and decent attack, perfect speedster. Archeops could be an all arounder, and the defeatist ability would help with some busted stats. Like near Zacian level stats at the beginning of fights, but the second it comes under half health then it has to retreat. Have a different color health bar like Slowbro and it can only overcome the defeatist ability by regaining health by sitrus berries (no Greedent oran berries), returning to base, or goal healing
Cool concepts!
i am really waiting for umbreon cause my main role if defender and my play style suits it stay ahead be the tank mainly snorlax is being underrated as i play him he is pretty amazing defender in game rn his block can setup crazy stuff
Hi @spragels! I was Slowbro in that fight, feeling very lucky as it is my second time in a video. After a rough lane with Gardevoir, this game was great! Really good Talon show off, I can’t wait to play it more. Keep the great content coming! Much love!
Love that! GG!
I am a talon main, but i will say a good zacian can be very hard to overcome if comes into your jungle early. On the reverse though if you can get the levels you need, even zacian can be punished
Im a talon "main" (try to play every mon don't find sticking to one character in any game as fun but still play talon more than any other) anyway as i was saying im still very new to unite so this is very helpful
For me The best move of talonflame as a fan and user of talonflame in pokemon unite.Talonflame best move is Aerial Ace and Brave Bird (in my opinion)❤
I knew the music at the beginning was being played twice I thought I was crazy
Jake what stats or mechanics of talon would you like to see improved for it to come back in the meta?
I got the zacian curse he was in bottom for all game but no one was there and he let them break top goal we were all dead except for him and during ray he back capped
I would say that Talonflame's biggest issue is simply how many bad matchups it has. It lacks the damage and bulk to easily deal with most supporters, defenders and all rounders on its own and is really dependent on fly for most of what it does
I can't describe how happy I am to see so much Talonflame enjoyers in comment section🤧
You did Talon justice! Yee-Haw!
So what build did you use to make the fly ability faster it can really help me using talon flame
My personal tip (even though I'm not that great) is to have a "healthy fear"
I find that people are either too self sacrificial, bloodthirsty, or just run away at the slightest scent of danger when playing speedsters
I played Talonflame toward the end of last season and climbed another 200 points. Very fun playstyle.
Woah, this birb has wings!
Always really enjoyed watching you play Talon. You might not agree but in my opinion he’s your best Pokémon.
He is one of my best for sure
He's the best talon player I've ever seen. But I think his best mon/comfort pick is dodrio.
Does talon flame have any connection between its unite cd and scoring....which other pokes don't have...?
Is the bronze tyranitar emblem better or the gold one, I m confused bcoz the gold one lowers the critical hit rate highly
Yeahh my main Pokémon to play with! 🎉
talonflame mains rise up!
One day, youtube will understand the greatness that is Brave Bird Talonflame.
Me, who just runs whatever boost emblems are recommended for attack, full on burst items, brave bird/aerial ace and gets over 20 kills a game consistently:
I like your funny words magic man
I haven't even purchased talon,but still watching the vid like it's interesting
Yo I love talonflame it's so good I use the brave bird buld
In the new skin Talonflame reminds me of my favorite picture of my pet cockatiel Kevin
that gardevoir rushing to score is probably poor judgment in the panic of possibly losing
today alone i’ve retreated in two diff games with a full 50 points after winning rayquaza, because enemies were about to respawn and gun it for our goal, and i’m way more useful sniping enemies on goal than trudging across the map and dying
I've been playing Talonflame since day 1. There's probably not a single wall untouched by my Unite Move at some point ... but for real, I definitely main Fly. A good bird knows when to eject and when to play tactical nuke.
Love the video Jake but I'm more of a brave bird ace player xD
Who needs good held items and those Pokémon pogs when you have fly 😎👍
Can confirm faced a talon as a tree. And I just had my hp disappear I almost died. The only reason I lived was because I had a comfey on.
I need tips on when to use unite cause i keep getting like almost the whole team and die instantly
Love me some Talonflame. :)
I am a pretty good Talonflame in the game with fly and I do try to fight the other team player with this bird too.
I love this charector but I can't play the fly build without razer claw because of fly into razor boosted auto and then either flame charge away or use it to kill.
Yeah, razor is great because the auto lowers their move speed, and flame charge+ also lowers opponents move speed so escaping is easy after poking with fly.
I knew exactly how to play it and its a good pokemon
Talon was my first main I only have 15 matches tough
Instructions unclear, goes full brave bird blasting.
i tried
Minute 8:20 I felt like I was watching the Super Bowl
bro I just started 2 days ago and I win every 1v4/1v3 with this guy🤣🤣🤣
I love talonflame. I feel like bravebird/ace needs a buff but really the unite needs a dmg buff. It just doesnt seem to put in the work anymore
This is so ideal. i love talon, especially when theia dropped, but the lack of education on how to play it really has made the view of the pokémon suffer.
Playing talon in phone is soo smooth. I got a lot of wins.
The flyboy
Will nobody talk about the wartortle main on the enemy team?
7:03 zacian sacred sword needs a massive nerf to camps. Its ridiculous. It should deal like only 50% dmg to wild pokemon
Talon is my 2nd most played mon, and while he can be super fun at times, he is SO matchup dependent. He's a melee fighter with basically the same endurance as Decidueye, so any stray CC just ruins him so hard. There are certain mons where, if they don't die to the Fly, you're dead because they just turn around and kill you uncontested with CC that stops your flame charge/eject button. Pika is a good example of this, where if he has Volt Tackle/Electro Ball, he literally doesn't even have to aim to just click each ability and punish you for leaving him at 1%.
With the introduction of speedsters like Dodrio who just have constant insane speed, Gale Wings feels really underwhelming. I think a better way to rework it would be if above 85% HP, instead of gaining 10% move speed, it would be unstoppable during its moves. So you get rewarded for outplaying obvious auto target CC immediately after you land, but it also gives value to Talon's other moves besides Fly (since Fly wouldn't really benefit from it), which has always been a tough balancing aspect of Talon since Fly is basically the only thing of value he ever brings.
Yeah, talon is so squishy for melee. The pokemon I might have the most trouble with as talon is prob cinderace. Blaze kick gets them away from you and they have flame charge to chase you. Red buff on ranged mons also sucks to fight. Talon definitely has one of the worst abilities, though it could be worse like gengar's. I've been able to get 60+% ranked soloque winrate the past couple of seasons by using fluffy tail just because it adds over 1k damage to the fly secure and can be used mid fly. Definitely my favorite to play but man, there are some games where I feel useless in fights due to lapras, urshifu, comfey, zacian, etc so I mainly try to focus on scoring and securing objectives in some games and get pinged the whole time.
@@Blazetricycle Yeah any mon that has either self sustain or CC is a massive problem for Talon. Even mons like Espeon who, by the classification of their role SHOULD be the perfect target for Talon, ends up beating him 90% of the time because you die to a single stun from it if you fail to 1hko it. (That's also an issue of Espeon being overtuned, but you get the idea)
But outside of those situations, the other massive problem are all-rounders who have any form of self sustain because they're certainly NOT going to die to Fly outside of a full-on team fight, and they'll easily out-sustain Talon's damage outside of Fly. I remember a match where I had a level on an Water Bear who had just finished off one of my teammates and was at about 25% HP. I come in at full HP and Fly him, he survives by a pinch of HP, then by the end of the fight in about 5 seconds, I was dead and he was literally full HP. An all-rounder outhealed my entire moveset. And you're telling me Talon's a mon that's supposed to trade off survivability for kill power and speed? Meanwhile there are tons and tons of targets in the game who are basically unkillable without team support? That just doesn't make sense for a carry/speedster. They should be able to 1v1 most other mons, but Talon just cleans up the scraps of fights (which he does very well, mind you) and is really good at running away. Which is why he gets outclassed by mons who can do all of that also without dying for staying in a fight for more than 2 seconds. Suddenly you're left with a Talon whose only advantage is having a top 3 objective secure tool in Fly.
It would be one thing if it was a single bad matchup here and there, but he struggles with probably 60% of the cast (and only truly hard wins against a select few mons) in a game where it's completely blind team building.
Nice
Yeehaw!
Blissey video next maybe? 👀
YEEHAW!
howdy
Im glad to see some talon love but i still need me some buffs
very true
I also started playing talonflame again 😂
its just so fun
@@spragels agreed. Especially that dive bomb 🤌🏽
Huh , regarding talon, where to start ......
Talon is SO underrated it's almost quite criminal. I think people are not giving credit to float stone
+ gale wings passive + flame charge low cooldown and fly how fast you can get around the map. What talon fame does best is control the flow of the game. I can't tell you how many times I've secured the kill on zacians who try to run with agility when they are losing. Water bear is also food with razor claw attack weight fly flame charge combo. You invalidate defenders cus you can simply fly in the backline and snipe out enemy decidueye and espeons. It's the mobility that makes talon so good. You can pull out of fights that you are losing safely if you see the enemy is winning and that way you won't give them free exp. Flame charge and float stone help out a lot here. Out speeding petal dance giga drain venusaur is just hilarious, you don't even need fly just flame charge and float stone plus gale wings is enough. When your cooldown is over you can fly on them and then flame charge out (flame charge gives more speed when used on an enemy for a few seconds) and basically you can take them out without them even scratching you.
People just blindly fly in on enemy base and then brawl with the enemy ad then complain that talon is not good
Players don't capitalise on talon's strength. Which is to control the battlefield. So many times I have saved a goal from being scored by 40 50 points by an enemy cus I knew I was fast enough to make it in time. If I see my teammates clustered on one lane I make my way to the other goal to protect, sure enough I make it in time to protect it from enemy who is trying to make a quick score. Basically it helps me fix the holes my team makes and cover them. I sometimes backcap at 2:04(if some enemy are on cooldown) And able to score junky 70 or 100 points . If someone comes or I see someone jumping from the jump pad, I immediately fly out. Back capping is not good in most situations though but sometimes while it's not great it won't be bad either
Either I score and put my team ahead in points so no we don't have to go for ray but instead protect it and focus on the enemy instead. Or I don't score but I am not a liability for my team by dying. Also I arrive on time for ray cus I blackcap before the 2 minute mark
But that is still risky business and honestly depending not how to game is proceeding and the position of my teammates, number of goal zones destroyed and number of enemies backcaping. I don't blackcap . Backcapping most of the times will loose you more matches than it will win.
Backcapping is the single biggest reason why I used to lose matches with talon. Learning when it is a good idea and when it is bad is important. Your top priority with talon is not to score, but to help your team wipe out the enemy team. Take advantage of your mobility and use it against the enemy . The unite is an amazing defensive mechanic against regileki, and helps displace the enemy team formation. Honestly with a Pokemon who has tools to escape like talon, you should not have an excuse of dying to the enemy unless it was when your team was pushing against the enemy in a team fight. Dying at the ray fight is fine but you also took out enemy espeon at full health and urshifu also so that is a major advantage for your team. And even at low health it's not really that bad cus with fly you're invulnerable to damage . Taken out like so many pokemon on at decently high hp with fly and boosted auto attack at almost 10 percent hp on talon. Fly is decent secure on ray also.But of course knowing when to pull out if you see you're gonna get killed is key. Honestly, with all the tools talon gets to escape, you should not be having an excuse if you are dying multiple times in a match. Also invading after getting fly is great. You can get their blue and red buff. You can distract their carry to run after you( they will never catch you ;) ) Their lasers sometimes assist them in taking care of annoying invaders. Which is also great cus fly is one of the few moves that actually helps you escape from the opposite side of the map successfully even when multiple enemy Pokemon are after you
Also, ALOT of the times brawling is fine with talon but you have to pick your moment based on the enemy Pokemon and where not the map the fight is taking place. Those massive 1.5 k boosted attack help one shot squishes also. One of the highest attack stats in the game(it's close to 600) . Stacking is great, try to stack early on but don't over commit. You can get the remaining stacks quickly once you get fly. Just don't give the enemy free exp just to get stacks in early game. It can snowball the match against your team. More than exp, dying putting you on cooldown is the real problem, which basically leaves the match at a 4v5 for a little while, simply the fact that your presence is not there can turn the flow of the match to the enemy's side. In lining early game you dying makes it a 2v1 and your lane partner is basically bullied by the enemy scoring or stealing their farm until you arrive( which is the time it takes for you to reach your lane + spawn cooldown timer)Especially at ray the team that gets the first kill is at a BIG advantage cus you re basically fighting at a 4v5 for the next 25 timer counts approx. By the time you respawn your team is dead and you are alone.
Wrote this without my glasses and am tired so my genuine apologies if you had a stroke reading this😆. Thanks for sticking with me so far.
Have a great day!!
Damn as a fellow talon main, I loved this comment so much, yeah indeed, talon is rrally underrated
😮
i love talon the kfc character the pokemon community never new excited
Bro I did 18 kills today with 358 goals and yeah talon is great
I used to use Talon a lot and loved brawling with Brave Bird/Aerial Ace. Just feels too fragile to run that build these days.
How did you get that much coins?
Well im new and right now talonflame gives me 20+ kills and 300+ score. And my play style is way more agressive.
YEEHAw 🤠
love you
thank you sooo much! ps. PLS DO VIDEO WITH YOUR DAUGHTER!!!!!!!!!!!!😍
697 tickets for energy coins, broooo :D
I always play brave bird and always get around 70-90k dmg
it needs huge buffs imo
Yeah brave bird is fun to zoom around the map but it is a full send and gets you killed far more often then having flame charge, uniteapi also shows that brave bird probably needs some tweaking, maybe aerial ace should get a second dash or something to escape with.
Same. It probably needs buffs but I don't feel it. It's more like the other mons need nerfs.
I think Float Stone is better for Fly Talon than Razor Claw.
How did you get that much coins
Man told me I don't know how to play with talonflame, then proceeded to tell me to play the way I already do 😂
That play at 8:28………mmmm
TRY CRUSTLE PLEASE
As a talonflame main i main talonflame
That makes sense
Pretty decent video, however I feel your Bird is not Brave enough
As a talon main since launch, we are finally getting recognition. Talonflame has always been underrated, no longer though.
Not really. There's just *always* a better pick
I am Bravebird fan. Sadly it is dead. If it were a bit good then it would be meta with all Gards, Eeveelutions running around. Tho Zacian would be hard counter with Sacred sword.
I stilll rock BB. It's definitely terrible vs Zacian, but honestly if you approach the field the right way you can still sweep up the enemy team pretty well.
If I'm running BraveB I go Flame Charge. Talon needs more way to maintain high HP to keep its passive active.
Is fly ace a bad combo?
Not the best. Much harder to reposition
First!
yeeeehaw
@@spragels yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaw
that enemy dodrio wasn't good
he didn't has 3 hats
enemy dodrio exposed
do crustle next he’s so strong nobody realizes it
He gets bashed by cc and doesnt have enough damage (defensive build) or bulk (crit build).
You cant run mixed because u arent good in either, you are simply bad at both
Its sad to see my boy be so bad in the meta and its annoying
i had won a match with a draw and another with just 1