THE side speakers are NOT passive speakers!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. If you're going to make a review please read up on IT. I own this speaker and it is absolutely amazing.
The speaker sounds amazing. In my opinion. Mono so it will not play everything accurately, but you buy two for true wireless stereo. Then it is superb. And they get updates too. Like all the speakers out there. So they will fix bugs and sound. They have their own app.
Wow, what an incredible unvarnished and candid review. This is the first critical review I've heard about Devialet Speakers. Every critique you made was logical and measured. Thank you. Kudos to you! I would love to hear a review from you about Bluesound Pulse 2i speakers too. Because of you, I just subscribed!
You should have got two. But the price IS prohibitive. But to rate it alone in the way you are doesn't really do it justice. Two is astounding especially considering it's size to output ratio. It does sound quite good as a pair but there are options in that prohibitive price range that are better, but they tend to be space hogs. This can be placed easily in pairs and you won't need a sub to compensate for size. The Phantom is quite adequate in the bass department with a pair. Especially if you are in medium sized room. Large? As long as it isn't huge. Anyway. My two cents.
You have a point, Devialet has produced a consumer product, not an audiophile product. I have the original Phantom Gold, I know there are better speakers, that are cheaper (KEFs for an example), I bought the Devialet for its unique design and how it sat in my living room. Anyway, great insight.
It is wireless and Ethernet connected. You not not have to use Bluetooth. They pair across their own Ethernet through the mains. As a pair you have a full range speaker in the space of a large desktop speaker. The volume level also goes up as a pair but they do not have to be driven anything near maximum. Support for PC and Mac was dropped along with Tidal as a built in app. You have to have Android or iOS to control and set it up.
All the measurements I’ve seen show that the deep bass these have is impressively good. Unless u have the numbers to back up your criticism, your words have no weight. I do appreciate your detailed expose regarding the bass though.
he doesn't need to show measurements when his statements are factual. he is stating the obvious which you obviously didn't understand. take all the frequency response graphs you want showing that the base is exceptional, but that is a moot point when your choices of audio source is so restricted. A freq. response graph would accompany other information to put it in contacts. no way in the world is Devialet releasing measurement graphs if they were not using the best audio source. Paying attention to this review you would have known that that would have had to be an optical SPDIF source. what he's saying in this review is there is no point in having a portable speaker that doesnt give the best possible quality reproduction over a wireless source. There are lossless and (close to) lossless Bluetooth audio codecs that have been out for a couple years now and you can get in some of the cheapest Bluetooth speakers yet this massively expensive joke of "speaker" doesn't have that compatibility.. at the top it off, they have decided to not include the usual analog ports, ie: aux/line/RCA ports that would allow a user to actually achieve those freq. response graphs that you're quoting. Devialet is a company that claims to be run by audio engineers, but m guess is that the audio engineering takes second stage to the marketing team decisions. Richie Hawtin id an investor, but you don't see him praising this crap. it's a cash cow.. stop being a dumb consumer and start educating yourself
@@nickloss2377very constructive analysis pal. Can you suggest a better pair of speaker than that please? I was considering buying a pair of the 108db but now not so much since im never going to enjoy the extended frequency range. If I buy them, do you think I can reach those marketed frequency if I connect my tv to it by optical cable and use it with Apple TV? Or lossless by airplay?
Hello, great review. I think I have seen rca or something like wired connection to external device for it. Optical in is also an option in worst case. This is basically a device to play powerful low end with small size, but also with DSD like quality and wavy sound, unlike speakers that go just up and down(this bounce like deformed wheel). It's limited in size and reach of sub, unlike classic subs, those that move a lot. It's also mechanical so in low frequencies like 10hz it can be heard, it's also a wonder how it can move so much with it being so mechanical unlike thin paper of classic speakers. I listened to it and it can make sound like the plane going supersonic. Tweeter can make very true to reality vocals. So it can play such high quality from bluetooth stream, talk about great upscale tech. Most notable is that upscale in bass range where bass are not just thick, but sort of wavy. It felt like listening with my bassy earphones in ears, but it was the speaker on the table. There is however notable difference from silver to gold phantom, not just a power(I think they call it phantom I 105dB and 108dB or something simular). Top performer got titanium tweeter which makes that voices sound better. As for bass and volume, it certainly needs at least 60% volume to be somewhat loud. I didn't encounter it being sharp tho, but, given there is more options how to stream to this, EQing on some other device should be possible. Bass on top performer should be also the best. Happy listening.
I have television with eArc but this speakers dont have HDMI , was asking if there is a adapter so i can use it to benefit from eArc tecnoloy , dolby atmos etc . Thank you
@miguelbastos4988 I see, it's audio over hdmi, s0eakers got wireless and optical connection option, with rca through external device. Not sure if there is hw network connection, or if there is an adapter to convert signals from HDMI, but optical/rca is plenty of options to suit most. My super old plasma TV got optical and rca too. Tho when I play movie from pc over hdmi I mute TV and use jack from pc...
These speakers make really expensive paper weights. Compare them with tower speakers in the same price range. Forget about reviews go hear them and do a comparison. They are absolute trash.
@Deestay you cant take tower speakers with you to the beach , or in a car and over a friends house. everything isnt about power , its about personal use
@@aarondaniels8428 just like it’s about personal opinion and experience. Who ever told you he’s interested in doing any of that? I’ve never in my life carry my speakers to a friend house 😅 it’s for my home….. and you can definitely get better speakers especially spending damn well $3000
@deestay584 It's very much dependent on your listening preferences, and given listening environment. There is no one speaker that fits all requirements, that's why I don't buy commercially designed speakers. There are acoustic engineers that will design a speaker for your own purposes. *5 Enclosures You've Never Heard Of* ua-cam.com/video/CZaRQT3Rvaw/v-deo.html Watch this part first - ua-cam.com/video/CZaRQT3Rvaw/v-deo.html *Acoustic Engineering Workflow* ua-cam.com/video/tY5ijVq2QzE/v-deo.html Personally, I've been designing and building my own speakers since 1990 … and I know how much of a waste of money the above speakers are! ua-cam.com/video/BuCEMkwvFZ0/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/3qY-FuyaN6g/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/jV0Ljnn8L0s/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/qm5K_VVRwXQ/v-deo.html For the money, the Devialet aren't bad speakers ... they absolutely atrocious speakers!!! If you had to go active speakers, look at Genelec first, and at a push Dynaudio, but since Dynaudio sold out to a Chinese company, their products have gone down hill IMO ... and I say that as someone who owned a pair of Dynaudio BMA5 speakers and at one point. IMO Genelec are the new king of powered monitors.
THE side speakers are NOT passive speakers!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. If you're going to make a review please read up on IT. I own this speaker and it is absolutely amazing.
The fact that you like this speaker … shows how inept your opinion is!
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The speaker sounds amazing.
In my opinion.
Mono so it will not play everything accurately, but you buy two for true wireless stereo.
Then it is superb.
And they get updates too.
Like all the speakers out there.
So they will fix bugs and sound.
They have their own app.
Wow, what an incredible unvarnished and candid review. This is the first critical review I've heard about Devialet Speakers. Every critique you made was logical and measured. Thank you. Kudos to you! I would love to hear a review from you about Bluesound Pulse 2i speakers too. Because of you, I just subscribed!
You should have got two. But the price IS prohibitive. But to rate it alone in the way you are doesn't really do it justice. Two is astounding especially considering it's size to output ratio. It does sound quite good as a pair but there are options in that prohibitive price range that are better, but they tend to be space hogs. This can be placed easily in pairs and you won't need a sub to compensate for size. The Phantom is quite adequate in the bass department with a pair. Especially if you are in medium sized room. Large? As long as it isn't huge. Anyway. My two cents.
You have a point, Devialet has produced a consumer product, not an audiophile product. I have the original Phantom Gold, I know there are better speakers, that are cheaper (KEFs for an example), I bought the Devialet for its unique design and how it sat in my living room. Anyway, great insight.
It is wireless and Ethernet connected. You not not have to use Bluetooth. They pair across their own Ethernet through the mains. As a pair you have a full range speaker in the space of a large desktop speaker. The volume level also goes up as a pair but they do not have to be driven anything near maximum.
Support for PC and Mac was dropped along with Tidal as a built in app. You have to have Android or iOS to control and set it up.
Yep exactly i ordered one just to hear the hype . Listen for a day sent it back. When back to my overture3
All the measurements I’ve seen show that the deep bass these have is impressively good. Unless u have the numbers to back up your criticism, your words have no weight. I do appreciate your detailed expose regarding the bass though.
he doesn't need to show measurements when his statements are factual. he is stating the obvious which you obviously didn't understand. take all the frequency response graphs you want showing that the base is exceptional, but that is a moot point when your choices of audio source is so restricted. A freq. response graph would accompany other information to put it in contacts. no way in the world is Devialet releasing measurement graphs if they were not using the best audio source. Paying attention to this review you would have known that that would have had to be an optical SPDIF source. what he's saying in this review is there is no point in having a portable speaker that doesnt give the best possible quality reproduction over a wireless source. There are lossless and (close to) lossless Bluetooth audio codecs that have been out for a couple years now and you can get in some of the cheapest Bluetooth speakers yet this massively expensive joke of "speaker" doesn't have that compatibility.. at the top it off, they have decided to not include the usual analog ports, ie: aux/line/RCA ports that would allow a user to actually achieve those freq. response graphs that you're quoting. Devialet is a company that claims to be run by audio engineers, but m guess is that the audio engineering takes second stage to the marketing team decisions. Richie Hawtin id an investor, but you don't see him praising this crap. it's a cash cow.. stop being a dumb consumer and start educating yourself
@@nickloss2377very constructive analysis pal. Can you suggest a better pair of speaker than that please? I was considering buying a pair of the 108db but now not so much since im never going to enjoy the extended frequency range. If I buy them, do you think I can reach those marketed frequency if I connect my tv to it by optical cable and use it with Apple TV? Or lossless by airplay?
Thanks
Hello, great review. I think I have seen rca or something like wired connection to external device for it. Optical in is also an option in worst case.
This is basically a device to play powerful low end with small size, but also with DSD like quality and wavy sound, unlike speakers that go just up and down(this bounce like deformed wheel). It's limited in size and reach of sub, unlike classic subs, those that move a lot. It's also mechanical so in low frequencies like 10hz it can be heard, it's also a wonder how it can move so much with it being so mechanical unlike thin paper of classic speakers.
I listened to it and it can make sound like the plane going supersonic.
Tweeter can make very true to reality vocals. So it can play such high quality from bluetooth stream, talk about great upscale tech.
Most notable is that upscale in bass range where bass are not just thick, but sort of wavy.
It felt like listening with my bassy earphones in ears, but it was the speaker on the table.
There is however notable difference from silver to gold phantom, not just a power(I think they call it phantom I 105dB and 108dB or something simular). Top performer got titanium tweeter which makes that voices sound better.
As for bass and volume, it certainly needs at least 60% volume to be somewhat loud.
I didn't encounter it being sharp tho, but, given there is more options how to stream to this, EQing on some other device should be possible.
Bass on top performer should be also the best.
Happy listening.
can we plug it in to an hdmi adapter for eArc?
@miguelbastos4988 not sure what you want, but it should have coaxial using external device
I have television with eArc but this speakers dont have HDMI , was asking if there is a adapter so i can use it to benefit from eArc tecnoloy , dolby atmos etc . Thank you
@miguelbastos4988 I see, it's audio over hdmi, s0eakers got wireless and optical connection option, with rca through external device. Not sure if there is hw network connection, or if there is an adapter to convert signals from HDMI, but optical/rca is plenty of options to suit most.
My super old plasma TV got optical and rca too.
Tho when I play movie from pc over hdmi I mute TV and use jack from pc...
@@explodingheavens thank you . 👍
The Devialet Arch provides analog inputs (phono/line level) or digital coax over wifi with no latency apparently..
Cabasse The Pearl vs Devialet Phantom
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These speakers make really expensive paper weights. Compare them with tower speakers in the same price range. Forget about reviews go hear them and do a comparison. They are absolute trash.
@Deestay you cant take tower speakers with you to the beach , or in a car and over a friends house. everything isnt about power , its about personal use
@@aarondaniels8428 just like it’s about personal opinion and experience. Who ever told you he’s interested in doing any of that? I’ve never in my life carry my speakers to a friend house 😅 it’s for my home….. and you can definitely get better speakers especially spending damn well $3000
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@deestay584 It's very much dependent on your listening preferences, and given listening environment. There is no one speaker that fits all requirements, that's why I don't buy commercially designed speakers.
There are acoustic engineers that will design a speaker for your own purposes.
*5 Enclosures You've Never Heard Of* ua-cam.com/video/CZaRQT3Rvaw/v-deo.html
Watch this part first - ua-cam.com/video/CZaRQT3Rvaw/v-deo.html
*Acoustic Engineering Workflow* ua-cam.com/video/tY5ijVq2QzE/v-deo.html
Personally, I've been designing and building my own speakers since 1990 … and I know how much of a waste of money the above speakers are!
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ua-cam.com/video/3qY-FuyaN6g/v-deo.html
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For the money, the Devialet aren't bad speakers ... they absolutely atrocious speakers!!!
If you had to go active speakers, look at Genelec first, and at a push Dynaudio, but since Dynaudio sold out to a Chinese company, their products have gone down hill IMO ... and I say that as someone who owned a pair of Dynaudio BMA5 speakers and at one point.
IMO Genelec are the new king of powered monitors.