Joe HAS to get Robert Bauval on the show. He’s 75 now and his work NEEDS to be as recognised as his co-authors Graham Hancock and Robert Schoch. Bauval’s work can’t all be in vain😢
Ты, должно быть, тщедушный человек, который не завоевывает расположение ни одной девушки. Я верю, что ты пукаешь так часто, как только можешь, и это очень вонюче. 👀😬
I’ve been sober close to 10 years from drugs and alcohol, but I can honestly say that MDMA was the greatest feeling on a drug I’ve ever had hands down, and didn’t feel like I craved it. Wild long lasting euphoria, overwhelming amount of love and affection.
I tripped harder than anything ever and I had taken cid 30 times. At least before this one point of “Molly” I tripped so fucking hard everthing was melting I had after effects for 6 months it made me go sober for 1 full year other than booze I was scared of being in the car with Pple smoking weed bc the weed would make the Molly trip come back
My ex girl friend had polyarthritis rhumatoïd and MDMA changed her life. The first time she took MDMA, she started to cry... when I asked her whats going on.. she answered me that she havent been able to stretch her body like that for over two years.. she was crying of Joy..she said..
@@omniferium8345 its crazy. The mind is crazy. I had chemotherapy and went through some physical trauma, tension stores in my back neck and right side of my face. Once in a while when i smoke weed i get this good high where all that pressure just disappears and it feels like heaven. My jaw pops and clicks into place, my body uprights itself. and it usually lasts a whil, at least until i get stressed and it seems to store back there. I wonder if its similar for her, that stress can retrigger it. And then trying to get the same results can get harder and for me it became chasing that relief and i had to work on my relationship with it so that I stopped addictive behavior. Either way the potential alone and showing of the mental effect on the physical is astounding!
I was thinking the same thing, he lost me there. DeSantis is attacking "open-minded people"? It's surprising how someone this intelligent is able to completely ignore nuance as soon as it goes outside of medical studies.
DeSantis is destroying whatever he can get his hands on. He's just another lying, hypocritical politician. Democrats, Republicans, they are all either so closed-minded that they can't see past their own noses or they're so open-minded that their brains fall out. Both sides are so busy working against each other that the only real losers are US.
13:23 "Bunch of transgender people. Bunch of open minded people." I dont know who hes trying to convince that mental illness is open minded. I was thinking about heading to spotify and watch the rest of this but yea he killed that faster than DeSantis is "killing public education"
@Patryk Rębisz - Finanse na Luzaku horrible advice, to many possibilities of a bad trip. Mama is far more predictable then mushrooms. Ita a very hit or miss experience imo...emphasis on the imo
Some of the best times of my life was when I was rolling!!! Remember my very first time very well. The connection i felt with everyone around me was nothing like anything I’ve ever felt.
My first time doing it was the first time i felt real happyness and joy. Felt like sun was shining out of my belly😁 i lost a lot of anger and rage that day
Public education is garbage in Fla he’s trying to improve it I moved from Fla for my kids because of the total shit education system. Maybe do research before you criticize
No he doesn't. If he was on real MDMA he would of said all that in 3 mins then forget what he was talking about and start taking about something completely different lol
Please have TOM CAMPBELL as a guest! Tom is a physicist, lecturer, and author of the My Big T.O.E. (Theory of Everything) trilogy, a work that claims to unify general relativity, quantum mechanics, and metaphysics along with the origins of consciousness. This would make an amazing Podcast. Tom also worked with BOB MONROE - who wrote books about and popularized ASTRAL PROJECTION in the "west'. Upvote please to have TOM CAMPBELL on the show! ❤😊
@@umpin3 ,unless the intent behind it is not for the benefit of the patient, but instead to further their decline. In which case, it makes perfect sense. Cheers!
I was on for long time. Came off them on my own. had 4 seizures. Been two years and 🍄 have done more for me by a long shot than any ssri or benzo I was given by a doc . Imoe
Oh please! I have severe depression & anxiety & I take Xanax and it works EXCELLENT for me! I been on it for about 8 , almost 9 years now. So idk where u heard that but stop spreading rumors cuz its NOT true!
@@justinjacob508 now THAT I believe! It's just so hard to get hands on CLEAN shrooms,I'm in NY & I haven't done it for 18 years but now they're spraying it & adding all this junk in it that u can't trust who to buy from ,so I haven't.😢 They say u can detox off opiates with shrooms too,I have to look into that ASAP
In the right time/place, there's nothing like it. Positive human emotion at it's peak. People who say you can achieve that without drugs have simply never tried MDMA. Chemically, it's just impossible to hit that level via breathing technique or any other practice.
To be honest, I was not able to integrate any of my MDMA experiences properly since the comedown is always super harsh and makes me feel completely drained and suicidal for about a week. I always look back to these experiences and feel like it was all fake and there was never any deep connection with the people who were with me at the time to begin with. And I wasn't straight up abusing it, I've always dosed 100-150mg.
@@nackedgrils9302 I feel significantly closer with everyone I've done drugs with. The experience is not fake at all. It happened in your life, aka, reality.
As long as you have a good recovery plan/day and you get pure stuff..... Never had the "come down" people talk about. Just drink water, watch your body temp and lay down to rest after about 8-10 hours. The next day if you do it right is nothing but walking on sunshine and reflecting on the experience.
Joe, you need to get Eric Cantona on your show. He is the most amazing character, a French king of Soccer. He led the famous Manchester United team to success in the 90's. A controversial, charismatic and sometimes violent player (and still looked noble). Would make the most amazing interview and with the Manchester United tour going to America at the seasons end it would be great timing. Anyone who doesn't know who he is look him up. This would be Gold dust. I bet he'd get high too!
He says right after that child birth is way worse lol. Also why do you care what he says about desantis he’s not above criticism, like all other false prophets
MDMA changed my life back in July 2000. First time I saw Paul Oakenfold too in Fresno, Ca.. his first time I think playing on the west coast. Completely changed me from that day till present. I knew driving home at 6am that things were ok. I didn't make it home until the evening because I stopped in Berkley, Ca. for some pizza on telegraph street, either Blondies or Fat slice and chilled. Im happy it'll be available again soon.
I love this guy so much this guy is awesome I definitely don't have any holes in my brain I haven't done it in a long time but this is some revolutionary research
He'd have to be autistic to laugh out loud at that remark that was clearly thought of by the speaker as mildly humorous. You'd have to see his face to tell if he didn't get the "joke"...
@@tylerdurden7965 I’ve had both positive and negative day after experiences but 90% of the street shit is fake. The few times I had pure mdma at a regular dose it was a great experience all around
@@Musthavetrav yeah? ive only done ecstasy a few times myself and while i cant speak on the purity of what i took... i do know from personal experience, what comes up, must always come down (way down). You cant pump up your dopamine to those crazy levels without expecting a equal negative affect when the drug wears off. Now, its worth mentioning that back when i was partying and doing drugs, i usually did it in excess. likely adding multiple other substances as well, like alcohol.
An important factor for considering in serotonin depletion is also the surrounding use case: Dehydration, no sleep, partying, extreme physical exertion, no pre-hydration, no pre-nutrition.
Having the thought that I was damaging my brain prevented me from pushing through bullheadly for long sessions of MDMA, if you are saying you may feel / are depleted, it just doesn't have lasting damage like everyone tells themselves? I know when one redoses past a certain window and if one already had a good experience, it can lead to a very hollow and not great feeling.
being a 2 day experience is soo fuckin true. alot of people hate the come down and how they feel the next day, but if u just chill that day and enjoy the mellow chill feeling, its soo relaxing. i actually like it more than the high.
Studies are 1 thing. Personal experience is another. Talk to anyone who has had an experience without abuse and you will find that it is de-realization of trauma and the positive effect of that can change a person's life in just one experience.
The longer lasting positive effects could simply be because the user is reminded that situations that make you feel good and happy and worry free are possible and attainable. If you’ve spent a couple of years without joy or excitement in your life you can become pessimistic and subconsciously think “what’s the point in life” - it’s like a kick up the ass that re-motivates you, makes you realise that working towards something and making sacrifices is worth it because the feeling of reward is waiting on the other side
This was exactly how MDMA made me feel. There is incredible joy and pleasure to be had and it uplifted my happiness in all other aspects of my life. It gave me something to always look forward to and keep me going.
I used M.D.M.A from mid 1987 until 1992 and never felt fitter, or stronger, or more able to cope with the toils of life until the quality of the available tablets started to drop, no matter if I doubled up or even swallowed more, I could not get near the euphoria, I persisted until the early 2000's. every now and then I have another pill but I can honestly say it's been the early 1990's since I've found anything close, I know this drug so well that from one sniff from a bag containing so called M.D,M,A I can tell you how good your time will be and how long it will last.
People ask me "why did you try all these different substances?". Because they lied to me my whole life. So once i realized power at be lied i decided to research and then try these things myself. I can tell you im glad i tried many a few turned a bit habitual but thats life. You gotta suffer a bit in withdrawl to see how good it can be
Honestly out of every drug out there the only one that scares me and is capable of making you become completely detached from who you are fundamentally as a person and entirely losing control is alcohol. Xanax is a close second, weirdly enough they're also the only two drugs with fatal withdrawals.
I have nothing against MDMA or the studies that show positive effects through the use along with therapy, however, Rick needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He clearly has his bias and it shows.
Have had some mad nights with mates on MDMA, some of the funniest moments too. Remember taking it with an ex, decided to get kinky. Ended up walking home with her headboard cuffed to my arm, 5am off my face. Crazy times
Whatever you can do to confront your trauma will set you free. But you have to confront it and deal with it completely to move on...some people just can't bring themselves to do it.
Psychedelics are great, one time I was trippin on too much acid and I was staring at a fire pit and the fire pit turned into a mini world with little people and buildings, that was 2 years ago and it's such an experience to remember. would love to try out the psilocybin mushrooms next, just don't know where to get them, so hard to come by
I’ve rested most times after taking mdma and ive nearly always had suicide Tuesdays and so have most of my mates that did it regularly back in the day!
I’m definitely very interested it’s just every time I’ve dosed mdma even micro doses the cumdown and next day are horrible for me I feel like my brain is melting out of my head but again I’m very excited this stuff is taking off
If you have not taken ecstasy and reflect on the whole experience you are missing out on such a beautiful experience This experience is so wonderful that only the people who have taken ecstasy ( M.D.M.A) know what others are missing.
I have been super depressed my whole life and I used drugs occasionally to reset my mood. It always seemed like if I got really drunk or really high for a day that yeah it would take a day or two to recover after that but then I would feel better for a couple weeks. Then I would just do it again. I lived like that for years and managed ok. I stopped everything now because I ended up getting hooked on meth after I gave up on life when I lost my job and lost everything. I ended up being trapped back at my parents house stuck in my room and had a bunch of drugs. I just sat in my room doing drugs everyday for like a year. And that's what messed me up. But I think occasionally heavy drug use can actually be good for certain people. I'm not sure what's up with my brain but nothing else I ever did would help me feel better.
with a good source you won’t even feel those “horrible comedown effects” and it can be used as a spiritual experience don’t let someone else’s bad trip stop you from trying it out in a safely manner it can be life changing in a beautiful way
There are some criteria’s IMO : plan the after (rest days) , be at least 25 year old, good genuine product, be with the same type of people around who understand the trip, the dosage is essential. Have fun 🎉
I have a high pressure job, I’m grumpy, I’m horrible to live with and I generally like my own company, Im a professional person…. At the age of 38 Someone spiked me with MDMA, it was the best night of my life and a game changer. Im 💯 a better person when I take it. It’s a game changer.
*MDMA* "The neurotoxicity of MDMA use is the subject of considerable debate. Scientific study has resulted in the general agreement that, although it is physically safe to try in a responsible context, the administration of repeated or high dosages of MDMA is most certainly neurotoxic in some form. Administration of MDMA causes subsequent down-regulation of serotonin reuptake transporters in the brain. The rate at which the brain recovers from serotonergic changes is unclear. One study demonstrated lasting serotonergic changes in some animals exposed to MDMA.[70] Other studies have suggested that the brain may recover from serotonergic damage.[71][72][73] It is thought that MDMA's metabolites play a large role in the uncertain levels of neurotoxicity. For example, a metabolite of MDMA called alpha-Methyldopamine (α-Me-DA, which is known to be toxic to dopamine neurons[74][18]It was thought believed to be involved in the toxicity of MDMA to serotonin receptors. However, one study found this to not be the case as direct administration of α-Me-DA did not cause neurotoxicity.[18] Additionally, MDMA injected directly into the brain was found to not be toxic, implying a metabolite is responsible for the toxicity when MDMA is administered via insufflation or oral consumption.[18] This study found that although α-Me-DA is involved, it is a further metabolite of α-Me-DA involving glutathione that is primarily responsible for the selective damage to 5-HT receptors triggered by MDMA/MDA.[18]This metabolite forms in higher concentrations when core temperature is elevated. It is taken up into serotonin receptors by its transporters and metabolized by MAO-B into a reactive oxygen species which can cause neurological damage.[18][75]" *Amphetamine* "As of March 2014, there is no evidence that amphetamine is directly neurotoxic in humans.[34] However, high-dose amphetamine can cause indirect neurotoxicity as a result of increased oxidative stress from reactive oxygen species and autoxidation of dopamine.[18][35][36] In rodents and primates, sufficiently high doses of amphetamine causes damage to dopamine neurons, characterized as reduced transporter and receptor function.[37] Animal models of neurotoxicity from high-dose amphetamine exposure indicate that the occurrence of hyperpyrexia (i.e., core body temperature ≥ 40 °C) is necessary for the development of amphetamine-induced neurotoxicity. [38] Melatonin has been shown to prevent (if used 30min+ before dosing) and reverse amphetamine induced neurotoxicity of TH-pSer40 and calpastatin levels in the Substantia Nigra of rats." *Methamphetamine* "There is evidence that methamphetamine causes brain damage from long-term use in humans; this damage includes adverse changes in brain structure and function, such as reductions in gray matter volume in several brain regions and adverse changes in markers of metabolic integrity.[26] Unlike amphetamine, methamphetamine is directly neurotoxic to dopamine neurons.[27] Moreover, methamphetamine abuse is associated with an increased risk of Parkinson's disease due to excessive pre-synaptic dopamine autoxidation, a mechanism of neurotoxicity.[28][29][30][31] Similar to the neurotoxic effects on the dopamine system, methamphetamine can also result in neurotoxicity to serotonin neurons.[32] It has been demonstrated that a high core temperature is correlated with an increase in the neurotoxic effects of methamphetamine.[33] As a result of methamphetamine-induced neurotoxicity to dopamine neurons, chronic use may also lead to post acute withdrawals which persist beyond the withdrawal period for months, and even up to a year."
I've had the pleasure of meeting Rick a couple of times in Germany and the Netherlands. He was my inspiration (alongside LSD) to begin my path into becoming a psychedelic therapist. He's a wonderful human being, the human embodiment of empathy. Glad to see him on again!
MDMA is amazing but i do feel drained and depressed day after. Sometimes exhausted or insomnia for upto a week after. That possibility especially at high doses should be acknowledged.
Hence the reason he specifically states that it's a two day experience and the second day is for rest. Apparently 5HTP is available in nearly any pharmacy and helps with that crash afterwards.
the 2:04:09 mark of the podcast, Rick Doblin - "I love to smoke pot and go wondering around cities after midngight" tells story of wondering to the captial,bucket list for when I go visit the captial my first time. 😂
Too bad joe can’t. I listen to whole podcast and joe really had to end podcast but doblón just kept tryna get more info in until joe politely told him it’s over man lol
joe roagns the new chuck noris...i want on the pod @joe, ill talk about growing up with junkie parents, the meaning of life, how to be happy, and why you're the goat. lol
MDMA is great for festivals and micro dosing for at the comfort of your own home. When it gets to much just dance dance dance it out. For beginners I do recommend your first time to be with honest friends you can trust and depend on if you feel like going home or have a this isn't for me moment. Seen people freaking out because they never experienced "floating around" along with that warm fuzzy feeling. Biggest tip I can give is to keep count on the amount of water bottles you drink. MDMA makes you and keeps you somewhat very thirsty. Drinking to much water can end anyone up in a life threatening situation, high on something or sober it doesn't matter. So when your spacing on MDMA keep an close eye on your water intake and check your pee too. If your pee is clear see through, stop immediately because you probably drank to much already.
I remember meeting with a neuropsychologist about 15 years ago and when I brought up my drug use, she told me to steer clear from MDMA and that, if I wanted to use stimulants, I should use cocaine instead because, at least, it wasn't neurotoxic (bear in mind that I had never taken cocaine before she told me that). I don't very much use cocaine anymore, but have been quite addicted to it for many years as it fueled my porn addiction and further alienated me from my friends and family... I wonder what my life would be like if I hadn't had this encounter and chose to use MDMA from time to time instead since I have a very hard time connecting with people and suffer from extreme social alienation now that I'm in my 30s. Not saying that this is her fault, as this was the established science at the time and it's my normal tendency to isolate myself but still can't help but wonder...
@@classicpinball9873 I wasn't testing at the time, I've only started doing that in the last 5 years since I don't use drugs that often anymore and want to avoid bad surprises when I do. To no surprise, I haven't found coke that didn't have some amount of amphetamine in it, which is one of the reasons why I don't do it anymore.
In the beginning the rave scene was almost spiritual because of the quality of MDMA. Then people got greedy and it wasnt pure anymore and the desire to recreate those first days drove alot of people to take alot more drugs which as Ive said are now full of garbage and so ruined a lot of futures.
UH-UH--AH-AH!! The Joe Rogan Experience.
Hello bit*hes
Joe HAS to get Robert Bauval on the show. He’s 75 now and his work NEEDS to be as recognised as his co-authors Graham Hancock and Robert Schoch.
Bauval’s work can’t all be in vain😢
Ooh-Ooh-Aah-Aah
Ты, должно быть, тщедушный человек, который не завоевывает расположение ни одной девушки. Я верю, что ты пукаешь так часто, как только можешь, и это очень вонюче. 👀😬
@@cryptoesquire3168 - every hip hop concert
Being on MDMA was the first time I truly felt like myself. Normally Im buried under 90000 lbs of anxiety and depression and 0 self esteem.
@meekmanhushkain7917 You fwat?
look up mushrooms and lsd. but you do have to be in a somewhat good mental space, with good people you trust, in a good environment.
I’ve been sober close to 10 years from drugs and alcohol, but I can honestly say that MDMA was the greatest feeling on a drug I’ve ever had hands down, and didn’t feel like I craved it. Wild long lasting euphoria, overwhelming amount of love and affection.
I tripped harder than anything ever and I had taken cid 30 times. At least before this one point of “Molly” I tripped so fucking hard everthing was melting I had after effects for 6 months it made me go sober for 1 full year other than booze I was scared of being in the car with Pple smoking weed bc the weed would make the Molly trip come back
Worst experience of my life
It was so instense
Horror trip
It was a good day too Easter I thought it was gonna feel like adderall cuz I had it one time before and it felt like adderall but idk
MDMA permanently changed my personality for the better.
My ex girl friend had polyarthritis rhumatoïd and MDMA changed her life. The first time she took MDMA, she started to cry... when I asked her whats going on.. she answered me that she havent been able to stretch her body like that for over two years.. she was crying of Joy..she said..
T͟h͟a͟n͟k͟s͟ ͟f͟o͟r͟~͟~͟w͟a͟t͟c͟h͟i͟n͟g͟!͟!͟!͟
͟E͟n͟d͟e͟a͟v͟o͟u͟r͟ ͟t͟o͟ ͟m͟e͟s͟s͟a͟g͟e͟ ͟m͟e͟ ͟o͟n͟ ͟w͟h͟a͟t͟s͟a͟p͟p͟✙①④⓪⑦⑨④⑨⑧⑤⑧⓪🔥͟🔥͟..
is it only during the effect, of it stays after the drug wear out?
The benefith stays, after a couple of month, she had a remission and her doctor made her stop taking chemotherapy treatment
@@omniferium8345 its crazy. The mind is crazy. I had chemotherapy and went through some physical trauma, tension stores in my back neck and right side of my face. Once in a while when i smoke weed i get this good high where all that pressure just disappears and it feels like heaven. My jaw pops and clicks into place, my body uprights itself. and it usually lasts a whil, at least until i get stressed and it seems to store back there. I wonder if its similar for her, that stress can retrigger it. And then trying to get the same results can get harder and for me it became chasing that relief and i had to work on my relationship with it so that I stopped addictive behavior. Either way the potential alone and showing of the mental effect on the physical is astounding!
Tell he to try carnivore diet
He lost me at the end. Public education has been in the shitter for decades, but DeSantis is the one destroying it now? 😂🤣
I was thinking the same thing, he lost me there. DeSantis is attacking "open-minded people"? It's surprising how someone this intelligent is able to completely ignore nuance as soon as it goes outside of medical studies.
G.Sorrow sponsored is supposedly good thing.
DeSantis is destroying whatever he can get his hands on. He's just another lying, hypocritical politician. Democrats, Republicans, they are all either so closed-minded that they can't see past their own noses or they're so open-minded that their brains fall out. Both sides are so busy working against each other that the only real losers are US.
13:23 "Bunch of transgender people. Bunch of open minded people." I dont know who hes trying to convince that mental illness is open minded. I was thinking about heading to spotify and watch the rest of this but yea he killed that faster than DeSantis is "killing public education"
right???
MDMA ecstasy was the most relaxed and satisfied I’ve ever felt in my life.
Relaxed is one way to put it 😂
You should try mushrooms then
@Patryk Rębisz - Finanse na Luzaku horrible advice, to many possibilities of a bad trip. Mama is far more predictable then mushrooms. Ita a very hit or miss experience imo...emphasis on the imo
@@iandunn8346 “Mama”?
@@joech1065 I think he meant, “mdma” instead of “mama”.
MDMA is literally the happiest & empathetic I’ve ever felt. It really is a beautiful experience.
Some of the best times of my life was when I was rolling!!! Remember my very first time very well. The connection i felt with everyone around me was nothing like anything I’ve ever felt.
I remember the first couple time I took it, that feeling taking over is something else. Haven’t felt anything else take over the body like that
OK, that's it. I want to take it again!!
I agree, I wish it was more generally available...
My first time doing it was the first time i felt real happyness and joy. Felt like sun was shining out of my belly😁 i lost a lot of anger and rage that day
Next Joe Rogan needs to have DeSantis on the show to explain these accusations about public education.
Yes! 3 sides to every story
fuck that
Yes, I live in Florida and am very glad to be raising my kids here. I would pull them out of any woke school immediately
Agreed. How can telling kids you can be anything you want is insane. !!!!
i.e. men can be women. Men can give birth.
No need to say more.
Public education is garbage in Fla he’s trying to improve it I moved from Fla for my kids because of the total shit education system. Maybe do research before you criticize
Finally! Someone is talking about psychedelics on Joe's podcast. It's about time.
allahackbar!!
finally? u must be a young new fan lol
@@galischristian711 Yes. I just started listening to him last week.
@@galischristian711 you must be new to the comment section lol. Jo Po is the staple of this section.
@@galischristian711 it was a fuckin joke mate
LOVE the conversation around this subject.
Every video you upload is so captivating. Thanks ❤
This guy explains things the exact way I imagine someone trying to explain something on MDMA would sound like.
he got the message.
"This guy" ? how dare you
No he doesn't. If he was on real MDMA he would of said all that in 3 mins then forget what he was talking about and start taking about something completely different lol
@@bambam459 that's exactly what happened, he went on a random tangent on the school thing
@@bambam459 he said "the way i imagine someone - would sound like"
Please have TOM CAMPBELL as a guest! Tom is a physicist, lecturer, and author of the My Big T.O.E. (Theory of Everything) trilogy, a work that claims to unify general relativity, quantum mechanics, and metaphysics along with the origins of consciousness.
This would make an amazing Podcast.
Tom also worked with BOB MONROE - who wrote books about and popularized ASTRAL PROJECTION in the "west'.
Upvote please to have TOM CAMPBELL on the show! ❤😊
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Finally a podcast about Mixed Dimensional Martial Arts...been waiting on this one
Rick should have a sock puppet on each hand.
Now that would be a trip.
💀💀
Giving Vets benzodiazepines for PTSD was dooming them to a dysfunctional destroyed future.
Yet they handed them out like candy.
I can't help but link SSRI's and the the huge uptick in suicides..my opinion..!
@@umpin3 ,unless the intent behind it is not for the benefit of the patient, but instead to further their decline. In which case, it makes perfect sense. Cheers!
I was on for long time. Came off them on my own. had 4 seizures. Been two years and 🍄 have done more for me by a long shot than any ssri or benzo I was given by a doc . Imoe
Oh please! I have severe depression & anxiety & I take Xanax and it works EXCELLENT for me! I been on it for about 8 , almost 9 years now. So idk where u heard that but stop spreading rumors cuz its NOT true!
@@justinjacob508 now THAT I believe! It's just so hard to get hands on CLEAN shrooms,I'm in NY & I haven't done it for 18 years but now they're spraying it & adding all this junk in it that u can't trust who to buy from ,so I haven't.😢 They say u can detox off opiates with shrooms too,I have to look into that ASAP
MDMA is an amazing experience every time. I always forget how good it is until I take it.
In the right time/place, there's nothing like it. Positive human emotion at it's peak. People who say you can achieve that without drugs have simply never tried MDMA. Chemically, it's just impossible to hit that level via breathing technique or any other practice.
Same, even like a week later I can take it and think 'oh yes I forgot how nice this is'.
To be honest, I was not able to integrate any of my MDMA experiences properly since the comedown is always super harsh and makes me feel completely drained and suicidal for about a week. I always look back to these experiences and feel like it was all fake and there was never any deep connection with the people who were with me at the time to begin with. And I wasn't straight up abusing it, I've always dosed 100-150mg.
@@nackedgrils9302 I feel significantly closer with everyone I've done drugs with. The experience is not fake at all. It happened in your life, aka, reality.
@@ThatBigCactus Sam Harris would argue with that. He has taken MDMA and he has achived that level one time. Remember he talked about it on a podcast
Thanks for all your hard work and dedication Rick ✌🙂
O my God. That's a gamechanger. Thanks for the upload.
Love seeing scientists on the cutting edge of improved human experience on the pod.
As soon as he said George soros my eyes went red lol.
Absolutely nuts that he is out here trying to act like Soros isn't a real life James Bond villain.
He's Jewish like Soros. Same team.
What a time to be alive!
As long as you have a good recovery plan/day and you get pure stuff..... Never had the "come down" people talk about. Just drink water, watch your body temp and lay down to rest after about 8-10 hours. The next day if you do it right is nothing but walking on sunshine and reflecting on the experience.
agreed man 100% never had a comedown i always get good stuff i feel more shitty after a night of drinking
Hey frycan I get in on the saltuation@@hanskazan7403
an alcohol or weed alcohol was always worse for me because of those annoying headaches
Joe, you need to get Eric Cantona on your show. He is the most amazing character, a French king of Soccer. He led the famous Manchester United team to success in the 90's. A controversial, charismatic and sometimes violent player (and still looked noble).
Would make the most amazing interview and with the Manchester United tour going to America at the seasons end it would be great timing.
Anyone who doesn't know who he is look him up. This would be Gold dust. I bet he'd get high too!
Joe has been on a real tear with his guests lately!
🍄 saved my life 👍🏻
An amazing substance. Lots of good memories.
He lost me when he started comparing spinal fluid to childbirth and then talking trash about Desantis.
Agreed. Totally weird.
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That's why I'm looking at replies.
Maybe he doing research to find out why he thinks he's a woman???
Just sayin
production of endogenous biochemicals
He says right after that child birth is way worse lol. Also why do you care what he says about desantis he’s not above criticism, like all other false prophets
MDMA changed my life back in July 2000. First time I saw Paul Oakenfold too in Fresno, Ca.. his first time I think playing on the west coast. Completely changed me from that day till present. I knew driving home at 6am that things were ok. I didn't make it home until the evening because I stopped in Berkley, Ca. for some pizza on telegraph street, either Blondies or Fat slice and chilled. Im happy it'll be available again soon.
Fresno😂
Blondies and Fat slice are both fire !!
@@RonnySwank Haaaa!.. damn I want a slice of each now homie. I think I may have to take trip down memory lane.
@@916hellas bruh fat slice is permanently closed 😭😭
Kudos to him for talking about this in a very understandable manner.
You actually need that "2nd Day for Rest" after using alcohol too.
Wasn't sure if I'm hypersensitive to it or something but only a glass will have me feeling out of it for about 24h.
How do we get control of this corruption in healthcare? It's only getting worse.
I did ecstacy multiple times. I think I probably only got straight MDMA the first time. The other three or four were hell. Good pod!
Rick Doblin wore the same shirt in episode #1661 and I love it so much!
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I love this guy so much this guy is awesome I definitely don't have any holes in my brain I haven't done it in a long time but this is some revolutionary research
12:25 Joe not laughing at his guest's jokes has to be a running gag at this point LMAO
He was being a good listener! He actually wanted to hear & understand everything!
He'd have to be autistic to laugh out loud at that remark that was clearly thought of by the speaker as mildly humorous. You'd have to see his face to tell if he didn't get the "joke"...
Nice job copying one of the top comments though, you're a regular Richard Pryor yourself...
@@oldchunkofcoal2774 who me? Cuz I know I didn't copy anything. I have a brain of my own. 🤯 It's CRAZY right? - I know!
spinal taps, and birth, are no joke ?
I used to love it. Got me out of my depression back in the day. The thought of taking it now makes me feel queezy 😂
the hangover the next day will make your depression twice as bad though lol, always gotta pay the piper
@@tylerdurden7965 I’ve had both positive and negative day after experiences but 90% of the street shit is fake. The few times I had pure mdma at a regular dose it was a great experience all around
@@Musthavetrav yeah? ive only done ecstasy a few times myself and while i cant speak on the purity of what i took... i do know from personal experience, what comes up, must always come down (way down). You cant pump up your dopamine to those crazy levels without expecting a equal negative affect when the drug wears off. Now, its worth mentioning that back when i was partying and doing drugs, i usually did it in excess. likely adding multiple other substances as well, like alcohol.
An important factor for considering in serotonin depletion is also the surrounding use case: Dehydration, no sleep, partying, extreme physical exertion, no pre-hydration, no pre-nutrition.
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I’m an Independent Latino. Thank you Joe!!! Please invite Dr. Thomas Seyfried !!! ❤
I like how this guy says woke and open-minded in the same sentence lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He also shilled for Soros so there’s that too. They kinda go together
Then goes on to shill for George Soros, and thinks he's not gonna get fucked over after getting in bed with a government agency.
I knew I loved MDMA for a reason
It's an awesome experience almost everyone should try
I used to take MDMA all the time when I went to drum n base and trance raves in London. Great stuff!
MDMA is the greatest medical adventure a human being should participate in. Great feeling and makes happy much happier
Try DMT
Peyote did the most for me. Just a thought.
Just for advice, 5htp shouldn't be taken alongside SSRis. I found that out the hard way. I'm sure it can be helpful if used alone however.
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Having the thought that I was damaging my brain prevented me from pushing through bullheadly for long sessions of MDMA, if you are saying you may feel / are depleted, it just doesn't have lasting damage like everyone tells themselves? I know when one redoses past a certain window and if one already had a good experience, it can lead to a very hollow and not great feeling.
Joe was really like hey bro you gotta leave at the end and had to kick him off lollllll
MDMA was legal in Dallas bars at one time you could a shot at the bar.
being a 2 day experience is soo fuckin true. alot of people hate the come down and how they feel the next day, but if u just chill that day and enjoy the mellow chill feeling, its soo relaxing. i actually like it more than the high.
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Whatever 😂
Many regards from Balkans, Yoe from a fellow stand up comedian...
Thanks for sharing 👍
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u lost me forever at Soros
I loved this guy on his first appearance podcast. Let’s goo
loved MDMA, have not seen or taken it since the early 2000s,
Studies are 1 thing. Personal experience is another. Talk to anyone who has had an experience without abuse and you will find that it is de-realization of trauma and the positive effect of that can change a person's life in just one experience.
The longer lasting positive effects could simply be because the user is reminded that situations that make you feel good and happy and worry free are possible and attainable. If you’ve spent a couple of years without joy or excitement in your life you can become pessimistic and subconsciously think “what’s the point in life” - it’s like a kick up the ass that re-motivates you, makes you realise that working towards something and making sacrifices is worth it because the feeling of reward is waiting on the other side
This was exactly how MDMA made me feel. There is incredible joy and pleasure to be had and it uplifted my happiness in all other aspects of my life. It gave me something to always look forward to and keep me going.
@@badaap69 do you still use it? How did you use it the first time?
MDMA is pure concentrated love being pulsed right through your blood stream. Lets give all politicians MDMA.
I used M.D.M.A from mid 1987 until 1992 and never felt fitter, or stronger, or more able to cope with the toils of life until the quality of the available tablets started to drop, no matter if I doubled up or even swallowed more, I could not get near the euphoria, I persisted until the early 2000's. every now and then I have another pill but I can honestly say it's been the early 1990's since I've found anything close, I know this drug so well that from one sniff from a bag containing so called M.D,M,A I can tell you how good your time will be and how long it will last.
Good afternoon everyone hope your all having a wonderful day
Has this dude never had a comedown before? Would love to get some of the pure stuff that he's testing!
I know what you mean, the pure stuff still has a comedown it's not as bad though, it isn't completely perfect but it's worth it
People ask me "why did you try all these different substances?". Because they lied to me my whole life. So once i realized power at be lied i decided to research and then try these things myself. I can tell you im glad i tried many a few turned a bit habitual but thats life. You gotta suffer a bit in withdrawl to see how good it can be
Honestly out of every drug out there the only one that scares me and is capable of making you become completely detached from who you are fundamentally as a person and entirely losing control is alcohol. Xanax is a close second, weirdly enough they're also the only two drugs with fatal withdrawals.
It took me 2 years to realize Joe Rogan is not Dana White
I like this discussion 👌
I have nothing against MDMA or the studies that show positive effects through the use along with therapy, however, Rick needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He clearly has his bias and it shows.
Have had some mad nights with mates on MDMA, some of the funniest moments too. Remember taking it with an ex, decided to get kinky. Ended up walking home with her headboard cuffed to my arm, 5am off my face. Crazy times
Whatever you can do to confront your trauma will set you free. But you have to confront it and deal with it completely to move on...some people just can't bring themselves to do it.
Blasted MDMA 3 weeks ago, it’s so much fun
Psychedelics are great, one time I was trippin on too much acid and I was staring at a fire pit and the fire pit turned into a mini world with little people and buildings, that was 2 years ago and it's such an experience to remember. would love to try out the psilocybin mushrooms next, just don't know where to get them, so hard to come by
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Ships psychedelics
@@sarahh321 where to search?? Is it IG?
I literally don't know why but shrooms make me giggle so much like I be cheesin for no goddamn reason
@@Jerryberger9235 yeah, He has variety of stuffs like mushrooms, Isd, DMT even the chocolate bars
Shrooms are where it's at. If you've experienced LSD start with 2.5 grams of shrooms. Love them.
I LOVE MDMA. BEST DRUG IN THE WORLD
Let's goooo with that hitter Joe!!
I’ve rested most times after taking mdma and ive nearly always had suicide Tuesdays and so have most of my mates that did it regularly back in the day!
I’m definitely very interested it’s just every time I’ve dosed mdma even micro doses the cumdown and next day are horrible for me I feel like my brain is melting out of my head but again I’m very excited this stuff is taking off
If you have not taken ecstasy and reflect on the whole experience you are missing out on such a beautiful experience
This experience is so wonderful that only the people who have taken ecstasy ( M.D.M.A) know what others are missing.
well said ,
Nobody is talking about the fact that he chose the worst name for a company? "MAPs" really didn’t ring a bell?
Excited for coachella now lol
I have been super depressed my whole life and I used drugs occasionally to reset my mood. It always seemed like if I got really drunk or really high for a day that yeah it would take a day or two to recover after that but then I would feel better for a couple weeks. Then I would just do it again. I lived like that for years and managed ok. I stopped everything now because I ended up getting hooked on meth after I gave up on life when I lost my job and lost everything. I ended up being trapped back at my parents house stuck in my room and had a bunch of drugs. I just sat in my room doing drugs everyday for like a year. And that's what messed me up. But I think occasionally heavy drug use can actually be good for certain people. I'm not sure what's up with my brain but nothing else I ever did would help me feel better.
Try meo DMT or ibogaine
E's are good.
Make no mistake about it.
with a good source you won’t even feel those “horrible comedown effects” and it can be used as a spiritual experience don’t let someone else’s bad trip stop you from trying it out in a safely manner it can be life changing in a beautiful way
There are some criteria’s IMO : plan the after (rest days) , be at least 25 year old, good genuine product, be with the same type of people around who understand the trip, the dosage is essential. Have fun 🎉
I have a high pressure job, I’m grumpy, I’m horrible to live with and I generally like my own company, Im a professional person…. At the age of 38 Someone spiked me with MDMA, it was the best night of my life and a game changer. Im 💯 a better person when I take it. It’s a game changer.
Rick Doblin is an awesome guy! Kicked back with him a few times so great to see he’s out and about spreading the good news and updating us!
You mean the news about soros being a saint, trans etc, and desantis being evil? He’s a loser
I'm glad to hear more studies are coming out about Majorly Dangerous Meth-Amphetamine.
*MDMA*
"The neurotoxicity of MDMA use is the subject of considerable debate. Scientific study has resulted in the general agreement that, although it is physically safe to try in a responsible context, the administration of repeated or high dosages of MDMA is most certainly neurotoxic in some form.
Administration of MDMA causes subsequent down-regulation of serotonin reuptake transporters in the brain. The rate at which the brain recovers from serotonergic changes is unclear. One study demonstrated lasting serotonergic changes in some animals exposed to MDMA.[70] Other studies have suggested that the brain may recover from serotonergic damage.[71][72][73]
It is thought that MDMA's metabolites play a large role in the uncertain levels of neurotoxicity. For example, a metabolite of MDMA called alpha-Methyldopamine (α-Me-DA, which is known to be toxic to dopamine neurons[74][18]It was thought believed to be involved in the toxicity of MDMA to serotonin receptors.
However, one study found this to not be the case as direct administration of α-Me-DA did not cause neurotoxicity.[18] Additionally, MDMA injected directly into the brain was found to not be toxic, implying a metabolite is responsible for the toxicity when MDMA is administered via insufflation or oral consumption.[18]
This study found that although α-Me-DA is involved, it is a further metabolite of α-Me-DA involving glutathione that is primarily responsible for the selective damage to 5-HT receptors triggered by MDMA/MDA.[18]This metabolite forms in higher concentrations when core temperature is elevated. It is taken up into serotonin receptors by its transporters and metabolized by MAO-B into a reactive oxygen species which can cause neurological damage.[18][75]"
*Amphetamine*
"As of March 2014, there is no evidence that amphetamine is directly neurotoxic in humans.[34] However, high-dose amphetamine can cause indirect neurotoxicity as a result of increased oxidative stress from reactive oxygen species and autoxidation of dopamine.[18][35][36]
In rodents and primates, sufficiently high doses of amphetamine causes damage to dopamine neurons, characterized as reduced transporter and receptor function.[37] Animal models of neurotoxicity from high-dose amphetamine exposure indicate that the occurrence of hyperpyrexia (i.e., core body temperature ≥ 40 °C) is necessary for the development of amphetamine-induced neurotoxicity. [38]
Melatonin has been shown to prevent (if used 30min+ before dosing) and reverse amphetamine induced neurotoxicity of TH-pSer40 and calpastatin levels in the Substantia Nigra of rats."
*Methamphetamine*
"There is evidence that methamphetamine causes brain damage from long-term use in humans; this damage includes adverse changes in brain structure and function, such as reductions in gray matter volume in several brain regions and adverse changes in markers of metabolic integrity.[26]
Unlike amphetamine, methamphetamine is directly neurotoxic to dopamine neurons.[27] Moreover, methamphetamine abuse is associated with an increased risk of Parkinson's disease due to excessive pre-synaptic dopamine autoxidation, a mechanism of neurotoxicity.[28][29][30][31] Similar to the neurotoxic effects on the dopamine system, methamphetamine can also result in neurotoxicity to serotonin neurons.[32] It has been demonstrated that a high core temperature is correlated with an increase in the neurotoxic effects of methamphetamine.[33] As a result of methamphetamine-induced neurotoxicity to dopamine neurons, chronic use may also lead to post acute withdrawals which persist beyond the withdrawal period for months, and even up to a year."
They're talking about ecstasy Dumbo
@@trishanikovthe word amphetamines scares people lol . The government did this
Mushrooms ok, but I don’t care what’s going on in my life I would never “treat” it with mdma
This guy seems all over the map
I've had the pleasure of meeting Rick a couple of times in Germany and the Netherlands. He was my inspiration (alongside LSD) to begin my path into becoming a psychedelic therapist. He's a wonderful human being, the human embodiment of empathy. Glad to see him on again!
Ur a psychedelic therapist??? I need ur help! Please tell me your in NY??😢
Ben je actief in Nederland? Ik zou dit graag willen proberen
MDMA is amazing but i do feel drained and depressed day after. Sometimes exhausted or insomnia for upto a week after. That possibility especially at high doses should be acknowledged.
Hence the reason he specifically states that it's a two day experience and the second day is for rest. Apparently 5HTP is available in nearly any pharmacy and helps with that crash afterwards.
Great news!
Fun fact, caffeine seriously helps the spinal tap headaches
"Jamie pull up the video of the bear on MDMA."
the 2:04:09 mark of the podcast, Rick Doblin - "I love to smoke pot and go wondering around cities after midngight" tells story of wondering to the captial,bucket list for when I go visit the captial my first time. 😂
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I love when Joe gets these sorts of peoples on.
I could listen to this man speak all day
Too bad joe can’t. I listen to whole podcast and joe really had to end podcast but doblón just kept tryna get more info in until joe politely told him it’s over man lol
What?
joe roagns the new chuck noris...i want on the pod @joe, ill talk about growing up with junkie parents, the meaning of life, how to be happy, and why you're the goat. lol
Sounds like some kid switched the bottles so he could score some lab grade X.
MDMA is great for festivals and micro dosing for at the comfort of your own home. When it gets to much just dance dance dance it out. For beginners I do recommend your first time to be with honest friends you can trust and depend on if you feel like going home or have a this isn't for me moment. Seen people freaking out because they never experienced "floating around" along with that warm fuzzy feeling. Biggest tip I can give is to keep count on the amount of water bottles you drink. MDMA makes you and keeps you somewhat very thirsty. Drinking to much water can end anyone up in a life threatening situation, high on something or sober it doesn't matter. So when your spacing on MDMA keep an close eye on your water intake and check your pee too. If your pee is clear see through, stop immediately because you probably drank to much already.
Eating ice instead of chugging water is a very good strategy to prevent drinking too much. Cheers!
When you're rolling on MDMA, not spacing. Haha
Just don’t drink Purified water. Always Spring or Mineral water. Hydrates you better with electrolytes and prevents hyponatremia.
Damn this is horrible advice.
This comment started well then finished terribly
Here it comes. Pharm’ MDMA
#SendIt 💊
I remember meeting with a neuropsychologist about 15 years ago and when I brought up my drug use, she told me to steer clear from MDMA and that, if I wanted to use stimulants, I should use cocaine instead because, at least, it wasn't neurotoxic (bear in mind that I had never taken cocaine before she told me that). I don't very much use cocaine anymore, but have been quite addicted to it for many years as it fueled my porn addiction and further alienated me from my friends and family... I wonder what my life would be like if I hadn't had this encounter and chose to use MDMA from time to time instead since I have a very hard time connecting with people and suffer from extreme social alienation now that I'm in my 30s.
Not saying that this is her fault, as this was the established science at the time and it's my normal tendency to isolate myself but still can't help but wonder...
I mean how responsible a drug user were you? Are you sure it was pure coke or pure mdma every time?
So u were 15 addicted to porn & drugs?? No judgement,I'm an opiate addict ,just asking cuz why would a Dr tell a teen to do coke?
@@classicpinball9873 I wasn't testing at the time, I've only started doing that in the last 5 years since I don't use drugs that often anymore and want to avoid bad surprises when I do. To no surprise, I haven't found coke that didn't have some amount of amphetamine in it, which is one of the reasons why I don't do it anymore.
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In the beginning the rave scene was almost spiritual because of the quality of MDMA. Then people got greedy and it wasnt pure anymore and the desire to recreate those first days drove alot of people to take alot more drugs which as Ive said are now full of garbage and so ruined a lot of futures.
When confronting your trauma becomes a recreational activity and lifestyle