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You really need to react to "For Joe". Ren takes the Spoken Word section here and builds on it, in a full tribute to his best friend Joe Hugh's, marking 13yrs since the day they lost him. He filmed that tribute in a live performance overlooking the city lights of Calgary in Canada, while in treatment. It's a beautiful and heartbreaking performance and we get to see Ren playing piano this time. 🔥💓🔥😢
Great reaction. Ren is for real. He’s no BS. Couldn’t imagine myself lying on a hospital bed numerous times thinking I was dying. The rejuvenation he must feel now that he survived and can get his music and experiences out must be like climbing to the top of Mt. Everest without oxygen tanks and a snowboard to fly down after.
You guys have barely scratched the surface on RENs catalog! So many good ones…. For Joe, murderer live, genesis, illest of our time, chalk outlines live, what you want, money game, money game 2, dear god, power, the hunger, dominoes….. enough to keep you busy for a while!
That is a good thing and a bad thing lol we LOVE that we have so much to look forward to but hate the fact that we cant just binge listen right now! lol thanks for watching!
I would LOVE to see a reaction to Ren's song "Insomnia". A very under-reacted to song that's just brilliant, and might be relatable considering the former insomnia mentioned.
This is one of my favorites 💕
Today I want to write something beautiful and eloquent but I’ve been staring at my computer screen for the past 10 minutes blankly. So I’ll just write.
Today, the 1st of June is my friend Joe’s birthday.
I first met Joe when I was 8 years old, my friend Josh said I had to meet this guy, so we both walked over to his, it took about 10 minutes from my house. I was greeted by this kid covered head to toe in freckles, he grinned at us, climbed onto the back of his sofa and screamed “Swanton Bomb!” then front flipped off the top and landed right onto his back on a stone floor. He lay still for a moment, twitched a few times, then got up, grinned at us, brushed himself off, and did it again.
This was Joe. He’d do anything to make people laugh. He ended up becoming one of my best friends. He was there when we stole our first cigarettes out of his mums pack, way too young. He was there when I had my first kiss, with a girl twice my size on the back of the 42 bus. He was there when I first got so drunk I threw up in the woods after drinking as much white lightning Cider as we could. I was there when he did his first backflip on skates, and saw him do a 720 off of the pier cave, that moment became legendary.
Joe was the funny one in our friend group, he’d make us laugh till it hurt. No one had a bad word to say about him. It was impossible not to like him. Usually we put celebrities, athletes and actors on pedestals, turn them into role models and admire them from a far. The person I admired was Joe.
Him and Sagar knew every word to the songs id write, we’d get drunk at parties and they’d be singing along as loud as they could. It gave me a lot of confidence back then.
On Christmas Eve 2010 I was sitting in a pub with Joe, he’d been feeling low after a couple of consecutive break ups. He tried to check himself into a mental health outpatient facility a few weeks earlier but they turned him away because he didn’t have an appointment. He turned to me and said that sometimes he wished he could just walk into the sea and keep walking. He said it in a kind of half joking throw away comment type of way, then took a sip of his drink, walked over to the juke box and put Dig by Incubus on. If I knew that was the last time I’d see Joe id have hugged him, told him how much I loved him, how much I looked up to him, how much we all loved him, and I wouldn’t have left that pub. I didn’t know that, so I finished my drink, said happy Christmas and left.
Two nights after Christmas I got woken up by a phone call at 3am, it was my friend Ella. She told me Joe was on the Menai Bridge, a large suspension bridge connecting the main land to the isle of Anglesey where we lived. He’d been on the phone to her in tears saying goodbye. He told her to tell everyone he loved them. I pulled on my clothes as fast as I could and started running toward the bridge. It was up a hill. I lived about a ten minute walk away, I could run it in five. As I ran I started dialling then redialing his number. The line was busy, which was a good sign, it meant he was still on the phone to someone. As I got about halfway, the busy tone changed. It told me the line was out of service. I got a sinking feeling and picked up my speed. I arrived to the bridge minutes after I left my house. It was deafeningly quiet. I was the first person to arrive. I got there probably about 2 minutes too late.
Joe’s body was never found.
Initially we refused to believe he was gone. The coastguard came out that night, with boats, and helicopters. Me and my friends spent the next 10 days putting up missing posters everywhere we could, walking up and down beaches with flashlights, getting about 3 hours sleep a night. When you’re walking up and down a beach with a torch when its dark everything looks like a body. We still haven’t found Joe.
As his birthday came around, I wrote a song, freckled angels, a song I dedicated to Joe which I sang in front of his friends and family. A charity football match was put on for him, raising money for the RNLI where I won two bottles of wine in a raffle, I drank them both as quickly as I could, naturally, turned to my friend and probably slurred something along the lines of “This is the last time I ever drink” That was 12 years ago, I haven’t touched a drop of alcohol since.
My first ever album I named Freckled Angels in tribute of one of the best people I ever knew.
Skip forward some years. I’d been sitting on this song I wrote a few years ago. It always felt a little incomplete. It was going to be my next release, but I was dreading it because of this feeling of incompletion. I decided, very last minute, to do something about it. I sat by my piano, and the rest of the song fell out of me. I hadn’t thought about Joe in a little while, and the song initially wasn’t going to be about him, but the words all fell out of me. I wrote and recorded a whole 2 minutes extra, recording each part as I wrote it. Tears spewing out of my eyes pretty much the whole time, and decided not to do my usual thing of perfecting each line, I just recorded every line as it came. This will be my next release
This song is in 2 part, first on him considering is own end, but it's never the right time... in the second part (wich he add few week befor relissing it) is about his friend Joe who jumped. Ren receive a phone call from an other friend who Joe told that he was on the bridge, that friend called Ren cauz he was the closess to get their, and after few minutes it was too late. Even if his mind know that it's not his fault, the feeling that he could maybe change the end never left his harth. The following of this song is For Joe, powerfull, sad, but beautyfull. Previous to that song about Joe, Freckled angel, and how to be me. Nice reaction. Peace.
Hey new sub here. I enjoyed your reaction and commentary. Ren said that he was ready to release this song, but was dreading it, and he couldn’t figure out why. When he did an interview with Knox Hill, he discussed the night, Joe, his childhood friend jumped off a bridge. He said the interview inspired him to record and add the last spoken word part of the song which made the song complete. It is definitely part of his healing process. Not sure if you’ve already viewed it but he wrote a tribute song for Joe called, Freckled Angels, about 13-years ago (less than a year after it happened). After this song was released, he did a live performance called, For Joe. All are beautiful and heart-wrenching…
we have not heard it yet, we are def going to check it out. thanks so much for watching and for your support! Much Love
Very thoughtful commentary. " ren IS the movement ", well put. love, kathleen
Thank you! Much Love
Ah yes. The Ren rabbit hole. Always a great ride
love this song. the subject needs to be spoken of so people going through the feelings can talk with people about it. it just seems like so many folks think it taboo and wont speak about till it to late.
agreed! thank you so much for watching!
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Thank you so much! Much Love
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Ren got a new song coming out in 2 days call down on the beat with his friend Viktus its from his new album Sick Boi its comes out October 13th
Cant wait!
Such an intelligent and insightful reaction. I particularly loved your phrase, "vulnerability is freedom". It summed up a complex concept perfectly! It's very true but it seems like it's such a difficult lesson to learn for many, unfortunately...
Thank you so much for the kind words! It’s a shame humans tend to fear vulnerability. I completely understand why, with the way society is, especially with the way digital connectivity is and how easy it is to communicate with total strangers. It’s hard to get one’s own family to accept you at your most vulnerable let alone strangers. Great comment! Much Love
Hope you get a chance to react to For Joe. It evolves this song in a beautiful way. Thanks for a very thoughtful reaction. Good Stuff.
Agreed.
Yes we will be doing it coming up reel soon! Thanks for watching!
For Joe by Ren for the rest of the story!
Loved this reaction guys ❤ now you gotta do For Joe. It kinda goes hand in hand with this one. It's so pure and incredibly beautiful 👍
His latest release is "Love Music part 4" if you want to be truly up to date. Great reaction
thank You! Much Love
Live version shot overlooking Calgary with Ren on the piano is fire.
For Joe next ❤️🩹
You talk about his 'Love for Music' in this post. You have to do a full on react to all four of REN's - Love Music Pt's 1-4 You won't regret it! :)
" Useless my mother / truth is my father "
Read somewhere the lyrics referring to his relatives in this song aren't literal
; he was referring to his PAIN as his ' mother ' / ' father ' ...
@12:10 The lovely says the conflicting "Don't try to fix..." after the gentleman says the best thing you can do is be there and try to support as she's nodding her head... that's a mixed signal. And for one assumes everyone is going to need and or do things the way you for example required or would have done for you have made the statement. There's already a dichotomy in how men and women generally approach problems from the stand point of dealing with them when they have them or when some one they know is requiring their support. For example, Men will generally try to fix, because that's what they do, actions have always spoken louder than word and nothing changes unless put into corrective action, and women have often just sat there and listened and gave you the caring caress. Both have there place only one may actually afford a change, unless the caress leads to an internal change of willpower which likely is not the case, but maybe. Calls for help that are not acted upon lead to the end of Ren's song, so I reject the don't try to fix premise, the whole point of intervention is specifically to help, the whole point of being asked for help is to help, if the person asking for help only wants a shoulder to cry on, they can specifically say so, and no help, but a shoulder will be rendered no issue, but forcing people to mind read and not help when seeing someone in need is being an emotional vampire and that too is a problem of its own that doesn't get talked about because it comes off as victim blaming because you can't tell who's a mimic and who's a ticking timeb0mb waiting to happen for lack of true and timely help. I've saved a friend or two, I know because they've told me, when I recognized the hue & cry and offered the help with them kicking and screening the whole way, that's what wounded animals do. But they're alive today, and have told me they likely wouldn't have been otherwise. So I say, help when and where ever you feel your Spidey senses tingle, you may be that persons Guardian Angel in that moment of need.
But I ain't one to gossip... .
Well since you brought it up I will kindly have to disagree with your statement "@12:10 The lovely says the conflicting "Don't try to fix..." after the gentleman says the best thing you can do is be there and try to support as she's nodding her head... that's a mixed signal" How exactly is her saying don't try to "FIX" someone and me suggesting that you should try to support someone conflicting? supporting someone is far from FIXING them, supporting them is not being vacant when someone needs a friend or to vent etc. When someone is at their lowest and most likely already feel like a burden or hope is lost, now probably not all because every situation can be different, buts some aren't going to want to just jump up and say hey someone FIX me, let alone hey I need help, if they did, it would be a lot easier to help these poor people out of their hole. just them thinking they need FIXED is another point of anxiety for anyone that is having problems, that is what Brit means by don't try to fix someone, she OBVIOULSY doesn't mean don't help them lol that is exactly what we are giving our perspective on from our own personal experiences, is how someone can help others in that mindset - hers with having dealt with deep depression herself and mind with being with someone and around others who have been in a similar mind states. Emotional vampire? lol someone not asking for help when they are depressed or su*ciDal is far being an emotional vampire, now maybe if they are faking it or something to that extreme sure but a genuinely depressed or rock bottom individual that needs help but doesn't ask for it is FAR FROM being an emotional vampire, I know people I have talked to have went to others for help but never actually said anything to them because they felt like the other person was too busy or they didn't want to bother them with their problems. Maybe that person thinks they might be drug off "kicking and screaming" because they are having some kind of feelings? From my experiences in hard for most humans to be vulnerable and open especially when they have genuine problems, and maybe even problems that they don't know why they have in the first place. I'm just saying from what I read in your comment you have made a lot of statements that could make someone in a similar situation feel worse. You start off by saying something along the lines of everyone needs different things than another person might have in their situation, but then go in to stereotyping how men and women tend to help others and say only one will afford change in those cases, so what are you saying that only men can help a person out of their slump because they will actually do something about it? it is very unclear what you mean there... Being an understanding friend that is available and doesn't require something in return for actually listening or giving good no judgmental advice is a great place to start is all we were trying to say, each person is different and will need different care.
@@TheNEWReel, See, you've judged what I said as stereotyping, when what and that's what I've accused the mixed message of doing as well by saying that support and fixing are a mutually inclusive or exclusive thing because that's how it was or is based on your own experience or someone you knew. And my point was don't do or say that because everyone's mileage will vary. I wasn't being judgmental I was asking it not be done and gave generalizations between men and women as examples and stated that's what I was doing. But if I made you defensive, then maybe my message\\point was deflected, my apologies. I don't think we're talking at cross point here, but saying that one size fits all is not correct was my point. Support is not Fixing, no, but it can include the attempt and in some came may need to. And your Mrs. said not to and I disagreed with that point having save my friends life, unlike Ren who didn't get to for not hearing the cry for help soon enough, or taking action sooner, whatever it was, but had he heard it, and did nothing because that's the advise given, his friend still would have deleted himself most likely - the question is would Ren have been there to see it and physically been able to try and stop him at that point or not. Or anyone else if they're not to do anything to intervene and fix it when given the opportunity.
Surprised that given my close you still felt the need to disagree with me.
And the emotional vampires thing they're a thing, hard to spot and its not for you to look out for, really but know the signs so you can escape with your life after as best you can because the one dying elsewise is you.
And many people especially women (in my experience) want to cry on your shoulder, but don't want you to solve\\fix the problem, and as your Mrs. made the statement, OBVIASLY, I'm addressing it, it's not a personal attack there are those that feel that way, the kicking and screaming thing wounded animal bit I mentioned, they don't want to be touched, but the sore spot needs to be looked at to get a proper dressing and attention, simple as that.
But I ain't one to gossip... .
First let me say I'm not defensive at all, lol I was clearing up the OBVIOUS point in what was said that might have made you feel like what we were saying was coming off as a mixed signal. The OBVIOUS point was that she wasn't saying NOT TO TRY TO FIX THEM but was meaning don't go at it like you are trying to FIX someone because in most cases when you are dealing with someone so vulnerable if they think they need FIXED that implies they are BROKEN. All I was saying is she OBVIOUSLY mean to try to help anyone in need just don't come off like you are trying to fix them as was said. And I didn't judge anything, I simply asked a question as what you said sounded like you were saying only men can afford change in the situations you were talking about which by definition is stereotyping. that is why the question was asked. And my disagreement was only with the two points, the part where you said we were contradicting because we weren't, we were speaking from two different stand points, as I said, mine from the perspective of being in the position where your friend or loved one might need help, and hers from the person that needed help at one point, hence the "Don't try to Fix that person" comment. If it came off in a different way, which is why I commented in the first place because I assumed you might have thought she meant don't help them then my comment was made to try to explain that. And the second point being your statement about the energy vampires. Yes I know what an energy vampire is and have dealt with my fair share, I was just trying to put distance between someone needing help but not asking because they feel like a burden to people Vs. someone that lets say might be faking it or as you said just wants a shoulder to cry on and not really need help. Those are Two VERY different situations and if they are both thrown in as one it could make someone that might be wanting to ask for help actually not ask. As I said those are two very different situations and as we were talking about the more serious one I wanted to clear that up for anyone that might read this. If you need help but don't ask for it, it does no make you an energy vampire. We try to encourage people to have the confidence to ask for help and not feel like they are going to bother someone with it or be called names etc. And as far as Ren's situation, if anyone was in that situation (as in seeing their friend or anyone for that matter) literally on the edge of a bridge I would hope they would try to intervene if given the opportunity as I am sure Ren would have. Now from the stand point of the metaphorical edge of the bridge it might not be as clear to the would be helper that is why I made my statement that its a good practice to make time for your loved ones and be there for them especially if you suspect they are going through something don't wait for them to ask for help. which circles back around to Brits comment of the don't try to fix them, because in her situation she already felt like a burden and if she thought someone had to try to fix her it could have pushed her over the edge. you might look at it as you are fixing someone, but we do not, we like to think of it as helping or healing because in the end that person has to have the want to help try to heal themselves. Anyway, If I came off as defensive then I apologies because I was not, I just try to make sure comments are clear and mostly positive when talking about such a serious subject, and when a comment starts off you two are contradicting each other then you get my attention and I will gladly explain it. Cheers.
@@TheNEWReel Fair enough, I think the CAPS was coming off as shouting and not as ""\\air-quoting for emphasis and the tone wasn't translating quite right.
Yes, the implication of broken and fixing and all that is also a thing and not at all what I was touching upon, but also not what I took her point to be addressing either to be honest. It's a fine line to deal with the ego element because asking for help already implicates the broken narrative from my point of view, but is not relevant to those who love you and or want and are willing to help you, if it worked what would be the need for help, broken is implied after a fashion isn't it? So, it's a detail that's important only to the one asking - a demon holding them back, making them jump, whispering in their ear they're no good - meaningless at the end of the day to those who never heard the whisper in the first place - it was never there. Don't get me wrong, there's enough understanding, that some people are acutely aware of that demon, but to be held hostage by it until it kills the victim is a bit pointless too when it really has no power. I'm a stoic, so I say these things because I can, I feel this way, I don't have emotions in the same way that others do that would allow it to be different. I understand that, and I don't because I don't understand how they can be controlled by them vs. controlling them; however I get it as I've seen it enough times to know the phenomena is real.
So, I think I get your points and think there is no true issue here in the grand scheme of things; everyone just wants to help, so no worries. Peace upon you and Brit I think we made our points and it was just a misunderstanding drawn out by the nature of text more than anything.
Live long and prosper.
@@l0g1cb0mb I understand completely lol It is Mercury retrograde after all and it is very hard to decipher a text conversation when everyone seems to emphasis in different ways lol. I am like you in a sense as I have never dealt with those types of demons and yet have a very unique understanding of them. However it took me being here for Brit during her depression to understand it in the way I do now. In the beginning I was coming off as Cold and not understanding, I knew something was wrong but I didn't see it as depression and I was like "when do I get my wife back" It took her trusting me enough to look past my ignorance and actually telling me what was going on as best she could even though she didn't fully understand it. It was only then I took it upon my self to do as much research as I could and tried to help the best I could. That is where her comment "don't try to fix" came from, in her eyes she was a burden on me and didn't know exactly why she felt the way she did so if she thought she was broken it might have made her depression worse. Its hard to deliver all the necessary info in a one sided video so I get the possibilities for a misunderstanding lol We try to clear as many up as we can but not everyone is a understanding and willing to converse as you. thanks for the conversation and thanks for watching, Much Love
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the end part is about his friend Joe u can read about him and all in comment i left for u from Ren community page also you should react too Ren doing for joe
2 off grid city dwellers living the green 😆
funny, I thought she was the captain. Wouldn't want to see your baton though.
LOL that was great!