Here's the rub. Everyone is waiting for research projects to finally make fusion the go to for energy production. Yet energy is far and away not the most valuable Fusion product. Liquid helium is worth $50 per liter. The self sustaining plasma's that enable transmutation of Hydrogen into Helium were achieved over a decade ago!
Please change Mexico to Red in the map. If American company's produce cars here and sell them to us more expensive than in the USA, and by a lot, around $10k-$15k usd, I don´t want to know what a monopoly on energy would charge us. And worst of all you still want us to reduce imports from China!!!??? Oh, and we already have a socialist authority, so guess which side they are going to pick?
But then how will those poor executives get their 3rd 500ft yatch? They will be laughed at for not owning their own senator. Think of the poor millionaire
Not true. When Biden took office he stopped the keystone pipeline in Alaska. And for the next several years he made it extremely hard for oil companies to drill. So no the oil companies do now own our government.
It's what happens when students have to study real math and science from an early age, instead of having social justice and critical race theory shoved down their throats.
I don't get it. If the US does't wish to invest in the fusion research projects, why they complain and try to prevent other countries to explore the possibilities?
As is often the case with these things. China gained a massive advantage in batteries, solar, EVs, because they invested in the supply chain and the US did not. America likes to talk about a green transition, but rarely put the money where their mouth is, instead they invest in things like fracking for even more oil, some of the most environmentally damaging activities on earth (the amount of methane released is insane), in order to keep oil alive. Imagine where we as a planet would be of the US actually took the climate as seriously as China does. If the US decided to work with the rest of the world including China instead of against it.
In engineering, having a great idea is just 1% of the work, the rest 99% is building it. If you have a great idea but didn't build it, and someone else built it, you can't really say they copied you. (they probably also found and solved new problems during the process)
Countries that lead the world in 44 critical technology* sectors: 1. China = 37 2. USA = 7 3. UK = 0 4. Germany = 0 5. Japan = 0 *In fields like defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas Source: Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) .
@@the_rzh OP is alluding patent troll. Company that patent or buy tons of idea from other company, but never produce anything. I am not sure if the company in the video that claimed Chinese company copying is one of those trolls.
@@the_rzh bro... we could have made this in the 90s and nothing happened for 2 decades. Patent something to then put it in a shelf is extremely messed up.
But the country that figures out fusion will have an advantage over everyone else. Unlike in the 1980s when U.S. giants like G.E. and Westinghouse were building fission reactors in 3rd world countries including China, it will be Chinese giants building fusion reactors in the 3rd world. Including the U.S. which is rapidly turning into a 3rd world crp hole.
@@videomaniac108Countries that lead the world in 44 critical technology* sectors: 1. China = 37 2. USA = 7 3. UK = 0 4. Germany = 0 5. Japan = 0 *In fields like defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas Source: Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI).
BBC: This machine is a typical of forced labour CNN: The overcapacity of Chinese moon landing DW: Chang'e 6, the dark side of the dark side of the moon
I'm sure China has stolen designs in the past. But really, it's not even the important thing right now because both countries are at the forefront of the tech development. For anyone, including China, to make meaningful progress in nuclear tech, they have to take the next leap, which doesn't exist today. As the guy at the end said, it takes sustained development and effort to get to fusion.
@@tonfie small minded mentality. China nows leads in 37 out of 44 critical technologies, that narrative of Chinese copying is dead now. It is clear now that we are on the losing end bc we are going against the rules we set up to become the nation we used to be.
My major concern is how to survive all of these financial and political crisis, especially in light of the US political power scuffle. The government has really called things more difficult for its citizens, and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance.
It's obvious that the government has no profitable plans for we the citizens, we have to source our means by ourselves. I started investing as a way to earn extra but it's now my main source of income; I never expected the massive yield tbh...
I started with as low as $12,000 actually because it was my first time and it ended up being profitable, She's is a great personality in the States and she's so intelligent.
Why is there no secretary of science in the cabinet setting out America’s scientific agenda and roadmap? You can’t leave everything to free markets, they disregard public interest and pursue self interest. Government has to lead. America’s success has largely been defined by scientific advances and it now sadly appears to have little interest on the topic from government “leaders” or the electorate. It’s really tragic. The vacuum of science which is quintessentially “the pursuit of truth” has been filled with toxic narratives of falsehoods and lies. It makes me very sad but America has a history of pulling itself from the precipice… so I retain a glimmer of hope things will improve.
Countries that lead the world in 44 critical technology* sectors: 1. China = 37 2. USA = 7 3. UK = 0 4. Germany = 0 5. Japan = 0 *In fields like defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas Source: Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI).
So China is investing in future tech, and the USA is investing in drill baby drill. It's like the US lost all of its ability to build a better future...
US wants to see ROI now. Fusion tech could be a loss of investment if they can't bring it to production. Right now, they are spending more energy than generating it from fusion. Different mentality. Only reason US is still considering this potential losing business is because of China... otherwise, this could be sitting for another 50 years.
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always biased and jealous reporting...🚮 Sometimes you just need to admit that some people are better than you at something, so u can progress yourself .
Well, I still don't think it is a bad thing that CCP made all clean energy equipment much cheaper now. Is that a wonderful thing for the entire global environment?
Grown adults getting annoyed at China "copying" their work. Honestly, I am very anti communism and have some very harsh criticisms of China but honestly crying they stole your homework? It's logic of a toddler.
The graphs you've shown are misleading. It seems like China's government is spending as much as US private investors are on fusion, when in reality if you sum up the numbers, US is still outspending China by 3-to-1, it's just that this investment is led by private sector instead of public one like in a communist country.
WSJ highlights the contrast between U.S. and Chinese public spending from the start at 0:10, but they do not add the counterpoint of higher U.S. private spending until 5:34. I think they omitted that stat at the beginning to make a better structure for this story, rather than to mislead viewers.
@@broadestsmiler I think the point is that the private sector is spending all of that extra money despite not having a significant advantage over China. It makes you wonder where that private sector money is going
This feels like the day i blamed my friend of copying from my paper when he scored more marks than me in exam. Lol…accept the fact that China is growing, I don’t like it, but learn to accept that.
Purchasing power parity…This concept is very underrated and it’s creating a lot of bad assumptions leading to catastrophic decisions making “Russia’s GDP is the size of a small village in the US, we should easily crush their economy…”
The article is from the Wall Street Journal, a business publication interested in investments. The first party to develop the technology will profit from it.
@@the_rzh No the media in the United States is in general also like this. Beating the drums of war and these past decade the Chinese started accepting that challenge rather then back down.
@@guardianoffire8814 The Chinese have their own problems to worry about. This article is an explicit plea for public funds to be invested into private fusion projects. The rest is a weak attempt to build a sense of urgency.
@@the_rzh The problem is everyone is essentially working on the same designs with the same materials. So it likely several countries will hit commercial reactors at the same time.
Your own graphs do not support this warmongering rhetoric. Yes, Chinese public funding exceeds US public funding, but the US has a vivid private sector, plus some public funding. And cooperation isn't off the table.
We are just handing China our ideas and technology. China has become the builder of the world. I can’t blame them if we are just leaving ideas on the shelf!
Countries that lead the world in 44 critical technology* sectors: 1. China = 37 2. USA = 7 3. UK = 0 4. Germany = 0 5. Japan = 0 *In fields like defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas Source: Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI)..
@@Amen6magiIf you have piece of paper and a pen, and could draw a picture in 20 minutes but choose not to draw for ten years, are you ten years away from finishing a drawing?
Yes, Physics died in the 1960-1979 era tbh. Everything else are just fix of previous theories and projects, we can’t compare then and now in terms of advances in that type of tech
@@CristianmrWuno we literally achieved mass production of screens because one dude solved the problem of the blue led after 35 years of being stuck in that problem, fusion will happen, inevitably, we can see the sun as a perfect example of fusion working.
Tokamaks were originally designed by the Soviets. The National Ignition Facility is using laser driven extreme optical energy to drive inertial confinement fusion experiments. It is hard to belive that China will become a world leader only a few short years of investment at any scale. The technology is not yet ready for commercialization so choosing a winner technology is impossible. China has rarely ever shown a fist mover advantage. Let's see how tthey perform. This ain't a miature solar cell factory or lithium ion battery manufacturer style tech project.
China’s strategy is to implement all designs and see which one works best. Even failed designs could boost some industries which could be used in other areas. The technology to build the fertiliser reaction container can be used for submarines body.
A win for the CCP apparently. Will the "Made in China 2025" program benefit the whole world? That would only create mass unemployment around the world, except communist China.
Since the early 90s, the PhD students in math/physics/chemistry departments of us universities have been majority Chinese from mainland China. Where did American student s go? US should do something to specifically incentivize students to go into those fields.
😂The importance of Europeans has been ignored, and the American media reports on the competition between the United States and China every day. Besides, how can China copy technologies that Americans themselves have not made?
I realize the point of this video (to get more funding for government-led fusion projects) but this is missing the point. Climate change is going to effect the entire world. It's imperative that China and the US work together. During the Cold War, the Lacy-Zarubin agreement worked to get American and Soviet scientists to work together in fields that had a mutual benefit to both countries. There should be a similar agreement between China and the US. Working together to solve climate change is much more important than competing against each other for a goal that will ultimately benefit everyone in both countries.
the point of the video it to get the US government to invest in private projects without getting any equity or share of the profits that may be generated.
@@posthocprior It is the request made at the end of the video. "public/private partnerships" like commercial space launches. The US has invested in SpaceX and ULA but does not recieve any equity. The fusion industry wants the same subsidy and expects to keep any profits.
@posthocprior We already got such a collaborative fusion project: ITER. While the intentions behind it are great, I wouldn't qualify ITER as a success story. I think it is quite the opposite, ITER's organizational structure got very complicated and is best described as a next to unmanageable mess. It is a shame that the majority of nuclear fusion funding worldwide has been sunk into that specific technological approach (Tokamak) for decades. It would have been better to fund several other technical alternatives first before settling on a specific approach.
The United States of America does not make friends in order to live better together, but rather it makes them so that those friends become enemies of those whom America considers its enemies.
I work in the industry, and nothing will be built by 2035. There are significant challenges such as enough superconducting tape for the magnets or breeding the fuel. This is a very poor article. You😊 have done little to no research on the matter. Very flippant, I expect better from WSJ.
They are more interested in flaming the US-CH rivalry than the scientific subject. It could be any other subject to be honest. They just need a way to spread propaganda in advance and prepare the population to see the other side as hostile and fuel conflict. One does not just start a conflict out of nowhere. They need to prepare a pipeline of events and paint the other side as the bad guy first.
Everybody is outspending the us. It is not the Chinese or the Americans, but the Europeans who spend the most and who have the biggest reactors. The world’s largest fusion project, designed to demonstrate the feasibility of producing more energy from fusion than is consumed. It is the most advanced experimental fusion reactor is being built in France. Other than the Americans, the Europeans do work with China, Japan, Korea and even Russia. By far the most Tokamak’s can be found in Europe and the UK. Maybe it would be better to work with the Chinese instead of seeing them as the enemy? If the Americans think that the laws of physics are different in the US than in the rest of the world, hey might be in for a big surprise.
Are they? Europe isn't a country though. It's hard to argue they are a single entity. It's not uncommon to see separate development among their countries. But yes, nuclear power should really be universal... it'll really solve world energy issue forever
China’s 10X PhDs in Fusion Physics and energy than the US. Now, that means we have to rely on the rest of the world for talents. At some point, quantity has it own advantage.
Ah here comes the Americans. If they can't beat the Chinese in advance tech, they will just accuse the Chinese of copying their tech. Classic text book Americans 😂
How is it innovation when only one country comes up with the ideas and the other is simply copying its homework? Thats literally the opposite of innovation.
Why does relationship between china and us always framed as a Rivalry? I wish they feature pieces that have more of collaborative nature than tensions between the two. US china relationship is more complicated than that
Because the United States of America is imperialist, and since it had too much trouble trying to dominate China (until now they were only able to dominate the province of Taiwan, but their domination of Chinese territory is about to end), they are trying to "bully" it.
This title is incorrect, the Chinese government is *outspending* the US *government*, because the US is a free market capitalist economy. At 5:35, the economic system the US has adopted is working, and has outspent China over 10 times.
If you ever went to china in vacation you will be baffled at how advanced they are. Imagine US in 2050 but with proper government and population. Streets are clean, people are respectful. They are not like those you saw on the news. Its not surprising they have the money for energy research, they dont spent as much on military
Been saying this for the longest. If there were another international “race,” it needs to be for fusion energy. Dunno why this isn’t obvious and wasn’t implemented a decade ago.
5:05 US govt isn't spending much compared to Chinese govt but US private companies are spending a lot leaving behind China by some 4 billions of dollars. So what's there to panick about??
Imagine being the mouth of the government, being super biased towards it on a petty way and still have to report the said goverment is on losing a losing streak for decades...
Somehow, we as Americans manage turn everything, including progress in science & technology into anti-China nagging. This whole video is basically making us sound like “hey I thought of it first, how dare you build it before us!”
Then why they still depend on US and also on ASML for their tech and AI products?, maybe has to do with reverse engineering and studying in western countries?
@blessingndlovu9037 Not true-US and the West are light years in DEI, Trans Gender Warp Drive, LGBTQRTFCXZSWETTT+++++, 2 Spirit, Jeffrey has 2 maybe 3 daddies, Non Binary and Super Spectrum Gender Hyper Space. I mean the Chinese could only find 2 genders while the West says it's an entire spectrum and maybe infinite-Wow wow wowee China could NEVER EVER hope to catch up and have abandoned that research (I fully admit that China has utterly lost to the West in this) and instead concentrates on boring STEM so win-win. They each concentrate on their strengths
Countries that lead the world in 44 critical technology* sectors: 1. China = 37 2. USA = 7 3. UK = 0 4. Germany = 0 5. Japan = 0 *In fields like defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas Source: Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) .
that entire list from ASPI is silly and only covers research impact papers. Artificial Intelligence - where is Chinas answer to ChatGPT? Space - Why does the US have fully reusable heavy lift rocks and a helicopter flying around mars and china doesn’t? Also on that list is jet engines. Why aren’t any of these jet engines found on any aircraft today? What is China’s answer to the GE9x Engine? The whole list is completely bogus
This is an understandable state of mind. Any empire that ascends to the position of "world number one" for the first time cannot avoid the mindset of not really believing that it will one day fall from that position. The mandate of heaven of the old central empire, the sun never sets, the American exceptionalism, and the end of history, they are all the same thing. This disbelief dominates their decision-making and can cause them to panic when they actually start to slip from the top of the world.
This mentality of blaming others in copying during development is cry-baby and halting progress in technology advancement. Your design is just something to try and proven-until-worked. So this is a race, credit to your ideas but the one that makes it work shall be the winner as this is a humanity advancement.
The difference between China and the US is that... the US private investors are expecting capital gain return in any investment, versus China is for the great good for the people.
In a capitalist society, a technology that offers free energy is bad because a lot of rich people would loose billions of dollars. In a socialist society the government work for the people not the billionaires that’s why they invest in such projects
For national security reasons, the US 🇺🇸 and Canada 🇨🇦 should not let Chinese visa students enrolled in Postgraduate *Nuclear Fusion or Artificial Intelligence* programs.
How about South Korean and Japanese students? they have similar competitive education system to China. Moving forward I believe these two countries will play an important role for the US in developing the tech sector for the US provided they can get their demographics decline under control.
I'm pretty sure they are just picking up where we left off since there hasn't been adequate funding for years. Why would the US government fund this if oil conglomerates donate more money to political campaigns?
If every engine was electric. We wouldn't have enough lithium for the batteries 😂. Would need 5k nuclear power stations. And would run out of uranium. Fewer babies. More trees
China has been a money-printing machine on overdrive. During the years 1990-2021, the US printed 6.5 times more money while China printed 147 times. - It has printed more money than the US and Japan combined, while its economy is only half of them. Current Chinese debt-to-gdp is already *highest in the world, at 300%,* according to Bloomberg.
Still thinking within the corrupt venture capital debt paradigm 😂, China has world class infrastructure & industrial manufacturing to show for it what does the US have to show for it's mountain of debt? 500 Billionares, falling rates of home ownership, inflated grocery prices? 😂 You've forgotten that actual things/goods have value not 1's and 0's on a spreadsheet.
LOL a bit strange if you realize that America is build on debt that never can be paid back. Beware the moment that you lose your position as the world’s reserve currency (another 15 years or so?)
This isn’t only a China’s thing. France is actually also recognized by CIA as a big industrial espionage threat to US . And US also sends economic hitmen everywhere with the proposal: lean toward us and we lend you our technology and badge of honor, lean not and we will overthrow you to install our own version of democracy. China is a dishonest competitor, yes, but so are all the other countries. Noone is pointing with their hand clean
US hasn't stol en IP? All the way from industrial revolution? Do you really think it was American ingenuity that helped make US the dominant juggernaut? It was copying German and French ta nks that helped us win WW1/WW2. It was Oper ation paper clip that helped us beat the Sov iets in space race not to mention we copied their satellite. Not to mention it was the Sov iets who invented stealth tech.
10 seconds in and your graph says that the U.S. is spending 6BIL while China is spending 2BIL. Doesn't this fundamentally contradict your headline that China is outspending the U.S.?
0:12 I love how the US is funding it with billions more privately, yet this story is all about China being the one that is ahead 😂 does China own this channel?
You missed the rest of the video. The private US funding isn't enough to outweigh Chinas public spending and initiatives to develop fusion. If anything the video was really anti-china. It went to great lengths to say how china "copied' publicly published research (which is kinda the whole point of publicly published research) , copied a US design (that the US never built because they didn't want to spend the money) and spends more money on public funded projects to build these technologies. I'm hardly pro CCP but someone working harder and having more resources isn't a conspiracy, it's just causation. This video seems to spin that as something insidious
Although Germans probably said the same to Soviets about V2, Brits to Americans about Spinning Jenny, Dutch to French and Brits about telescope and navigation, and Chinese to the world about compass, paper, printing, porcelain, gunpowder, etc., it’s still funny to hear American media keep nagging about how China is “copying” and surpassing the US. Last time you heard something similar in the US, it was still the 80’s about Japanese cars, electronics and home appliances.😂
Mexico wants to curb Chinese imports with help from U.S. companies: on.wsj.com/3zXWQI0
Here's the rub. Everyone is waiting for research projects to finally make fusion the go to for energy production. Yet energy is far and away not the most valuable Fusion product. Liquid helium is worth $50 per liter. The self sustaining plasma's that enable transmutation of Hydrogen into Helium were achieved over a decade ago!
Corrected for you: Mexico forced to curb Chinese imports with pressure from U.S. lawmakers.
Please change Mexico to Red in the map. If American company's produce cars here and sell them to us more expensive than in the USA, and by a lot, around $10k-$15k usd, I don´t want to know what a monopoly on energy would charge us. And worst of all you still want us to reduce imports from China!!!??? Oh, and we already have a socialist authority, so guess which side they are going to pick?
And what, exactly, is the credible source for that statement. Your lack of an answer will answer the question. @@york163
This is a good thing, other countries should follow suit and also invest a lot in Nuclear Fusion research.
That's what happens when oil companies do not own your government
But then how will those poor executives get their 3rd 500ft yatch? They will be laughed at for not owning their own senator. Think of the poor millionaire
Well the oil companies can spread propaganda, so people can gaslight themselves to still thinking USA is #1 at everything.
Not true. When Biden took office he stopped the keystone pipeline in Alaska. And for the next several years he made it extremely hard for oil companies to drill. So no the oil companies do now own our government.
It's what happens when students have to study real math and science from an early age, instead of having social justice and critical race theory shoved down their throats.
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I don't get it. If the US does't wish to invest in the fusion research projects, why they complain and try to prevent other countries to explore the possibilities?
For the US, its not about humanity winning, its about everyone else losing and we stay on top.
0:11 US is investing more
Just let them develop the technology and then steal it from them. That's what they've done to us for decades
Like Tanya Harding scenario.
It is called "Me Me Me policy"
I like how they tried to make this so ominous but it's just the US doesn't want to spend money and is complaining.
well they did this to get voters to vote for the right "side" to "defend" the future of USA lol
China doesn't need to fund Israel or Ukraine
As is often the case with these things. China gained a massive advantage in batteries, solar, EVs, because they invested in the supply chain and the US did not. America likes to talk about a green transition, but rarely put the money where their mouth is, instead they invest in things like fracking for even more oil, some of the most environmentally damaging activities on earth (the amount of methane released is insane), in order to keep oil alive.
Imagine where we as a planet would be of the US actually took the climate as seriously as China does. If the US decided to work with the rest of the world including China instead of against it.
It more looks like an outperforming than outspending issue.
that's where the 1.6billion funding goes
In engineering, having a great idea is just 1% of the work, the rest 99% is building it. If you have a great idea but didn't build it, and someone else built it, you can't really say they copied you. (they probably also found and solved new problems during the process)
that's silly, you can certainly point out when your design is copied.
Countries that lead the world in 44 critical technology* sectors:
1. China = 37
2. USA = 7
3. UK = 0
4. Germany = 0
5. Japan = 0
*In fields like defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas
Source: Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI)
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@@SuryaKumar01-j3k Isn't ASPI the outfit that was beating the drum for war with China in the next 3 years?
@@the_rzh OP is alluding patent troll. Company that patent or buy tons of idea from other company, but never produce anything. I am not sure if the company in the video that claimed Chinese company copying is one of those trolls.
@@the_rzh bro... we could have made this in the 90s and nothing happened for 2 decades. Patent something to then put it in a shelf is extremely messed up.
USA: You copied something that I never built.
Another one living under a rock.
What? Americans have been doing Fusion R&D since the 1970’s
Another one of these Chinese interaction farming accounts @samesamebutdifferent563 yawn
😂 another insect living under the rocks the US have been doing this for decades lol
they say China copied ideas. didn't know that ideas can be owned by someone
Sick of this mentality, it’s not about which country winning the US. It’s about the future of humanity
But the country that figures out fusion will have an advantage over everyone else. Unlike in the 1980s when U.S. giants like G.E. and Westinghouse were building fission reactors in 3rd world countries including China, it will be Chinese giants building fusion reactors in the 3rd world. Including the U.S. which is rapidly turning into a 3rd world crp hole.
Precisely: we all win
CCP doesn't care about that at all.
@@JigilJigil Neither does corporate America care about that at all too.
Murica making it a competition out of everything
How can they be copying you if they are ahead of you? 😂😂😂
In what way is China ahead of the US in fusion research?
@@videomaniac108Countries that lead the world in 44 critical technology* sectors:
1. China = 37
2. USA = 7
3. UK = 0
4. Germany = 0
5. Japan = 0
*In fields like defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas
Source: Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI).
@@SuryaKumar01-j3kDefence, space, robotics, and AI? Are you sure china is leading? I'm pretty thr environment is definitely not china.
@@videomaniac108 The video mentioned it several times. 1:39
BBC: This machine is a typical of forced labour
CNN: The overcapacity of Chinese moon landing
DW: Chang'e 6, the dark side of the dark side of the moon
How did China copy high speed rail from the US when the US doesn't even have high speed rail itself?
From japan
They copied Japan
But Japan copied from the US, everyone copied from US@@mosesestrada5503
@@kashmirhaBut Japan copied from the US, everyone copied from US
france made the first high speed rail
China doing good.
US and its media : "How dare u!!?"
Wasting money is good?
@@jb76489wasting on what research ! Is it that bad ?, ohh I get it, it should only be used for weapon export
How china copy something doesn't exist 😂😂
Time Machine 😂😂😂😂
The reactor design exists, thats what they’ve copied
I'm sure China has stolen designs in the past. But really, it's not even the important thing right now because both countries are at the forefront of the tech development. For anyone, including China, to make meaningful progress in nuclear tech, they have to take the next leap, which doesn't exist today. As the guy at the end said, it takes sustained development and effort to get to fusion.
@@teamtoken And this plan they copied from has step-by-step instructions with what number screws to use, like from IKEA?
@@teamtoken they invented it
The problem with Americans they think that science is country limited but the laws of physics are the same everywhere in the universe.
Intellectual property is limited, the Chinese can only copy it after someone else has designed it first.
@@tonfie Isen't that how the US rose to be a super power by state sponsored theft of British industrial technology?
@@tonfie This is exactly the mentality that is causing the US to fall behind.
@@tonfie small minded mentality. China nows leads in 37 out of 44 critical technologies, that narrative of Chinese copying is dead now. It is clear now that we are on the losing end bc we are going against the rules we set up to become the nation we used to be.
@tonfie Well US didn't built it first. They just claim China copied their unbuilt ideas.
LOL if you can plan but can't implement... don't cry if someone else can
It’s a news report.
Thank you
Especially when it's tech that could save humanity!
My major concern is how to survive all of these financial and political crisis, especially in light of the US political power scuffle. The government has really called things more difficult for its citizens, and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance.
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The Chinese copied American high speed rail? Disgraceful. Wow the things you learn here..
No they copied German high speed rail from Siemens
@@enhancedutility266They copied Nordic high speed rail from the Vikings, lol
lol, Highspeed rail in the US is the best.
@@enhancedutility266 they copied Santa's high speed rail from Polar Express
No, they built high speed rail. We did not.
It seems every week China is leading into a different key technologies and infrastructure areas
Why do jealous
Cause it is
Because it's happening hahaha
Why is there no secretary of science in the cabinet setting out America’s scientific agenda and roadmap? You can’t leave everything to free markets, they disregard public interest and pursue self interest. Government has to lead. America’s success has largely been defined by scientific advances and it now sadly appears to have little interest on the topic from government “leaders” or the electorate. It’s really tragic. The vacuum of science which is quintessentially “the pursuit of truth” has been filled with toxic narratives of falsehoods and lies. It makes me very sad but America has a history of pulling itself from the precipice… so I retain a glimmer of hope things will improve.
Countries that lead the world in 44 critical technology* sectors:
1. China = 37
2. USA = 7
3. UK = 0
4. Germany = 0
5. Japan = 0
*In fields like defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas
Source: Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI).
So China is investing in future tech, and the USA is investing in drill baby drill. It's like the US lost all of its ability to build a better future...
The US has spent billions on fusion research. Congress has approved $790M in March.
But if fusion was such a big economic and human opportunity, then oil company owners would be the first to invest their money in it.
@@academicpresentations6062Or they would try very hard to not let the billions of dollars of oil infrastructure become obsolete from fusion.
@@Izack That's a good point
US wants to see ROI now. Fusion tech could be a loss of investment if they can't bring it to production. Right now, they are spending more energy than generating it from fusion. Different mentality. Only reason US is still considering this potential losing business is because of China... otherwise, this could be sitting for another 50 years.
Just amazing how fast Chinese are developing new green tech
Whats wrong with china being the winner?
Everyone else loses
that bezos hasn't invested in them yet
The West*@@spoders92
China 🇨🇳 doesn't compete, it grab intellectual properties.
@@spoders92 just the us aligned countries
I'm favoured only God knows how much I praise Him, $230k every 4weeks! I now have a big mansion and can now afford anything and also support God’s work and the church.
Only God knows how much grateful i am. After so much struggles I now own a new house and my family is happy once again everything is finally falling into place!!
Wow that's huge, how do you make that much monthly?
I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??
I remember giving her my first saved up $20000 and she opened a brokerage account with it for me, it turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me.
always biased and jealous reporting...🚮
Sometimes you just need to admit that some people are better than you at something, so u can progress yourself .
Well, I still don't think it is a bad thing that CCP made all clean energy equipment much cheaper now. Is that a wonderful thing for the entire global environment?
Won't be cheap after slapping on tariff.
@@stanbimi Then ask your self why tariff?
It is.
*Forced labor & human rights abuses.*
@@donga2000 Same reason for tariff on EV, Solar panels, Wind Turbines, etc. Isn't it obvious? No need to ask why.
Does ‘copying’ matter when it comes to sustainable energy? Surely we should be sharing this technology for the future of humanity.
But that's too logical. Don't you remember the propaganda? China = bad
Western cries for evironment is fake
Especially when they weren't pursuing the plans themselves!
Grown adults getting annoyed at China "copying" their work.
Honestly, I am very anti communism and have some very harsh criticisms of China but honestly crying they stole your homework? It's logic of a toddler.
Why are u anti communism ? Or anti china ?
They are communist only in name. But perhaps ignoring who owns what patent is some way forward.
capatalistic by economic policies, communist by social policies.
@@villiamfangy6205they are certainly not communist as Marx thought of it (a stateless , classless ,moneyless society )
Homework that is useless to them because they don't have the money to build them.
The graphs you've shown are misleading. It seems like China's government is spending as much as US private investors are on fusion, when in reality if you sum up the numbers, US is still outspending China by 3-to-1, it's just that this investment is led by private sector instead of public one like in a communist country.
WSJ highlights the contrast between U.S. and Chinese public spending from the start at 0:10, but they do not add the counterpoint of higher U.S. private spending until 5:34. I think they omitted that stat at the beginning to make a better structure for this story, rather than to mislead viewers.
Correct. America is investing far more into the technology than China.
@@broadestsmiler I think the point is that the private sector is spending all of that extra money despite not having a significant advantage over China. It makes you wonder where that private sector money is going
paranoid america.
@@anirudh_s17 That's a neat point and a great question!
Inferiority complex much 😂
The underneath tone is like when China made something better, it's a disaster for US. When does American have such funny mindset?
This feels like the day i blamed my friend of copying from my paper when he scored more marks than me in exam.
Lol…accept the fact that China is growing, I don’t like it, but learn to accept that.
Hahahaha
imagine being against drilling and being for cleaner energy sources🤣🤣🤣🤣
Although let's not green greenwash China too much...
Is this a joke? First chart shows U.S. spending 5.75 billion compared to 2 billion in China.
Purchasing power parity…This concept is very underrated and it’s creating a lot of bad assumptions leading to catastrophic decisions making “Russia’s GDP is the size of a small village in the US, we should easily crush their economy…”
@@Pause_café_Avec_Dr_Djon there are small villages in the US with a GDP of $2 Trillion?
why does it always have to be a race or competition from the US? go get some sleep and befriend with others
The article is from the Wall Street Journal, a business publication interested in investments. The first party to develop the technology will profit from it.
@@the_rzh No the media in the United States is in general also like this. Beating the drums of war and these past decade the Chinese started accepting that challenge rather then back down.
@@guardianoffire8814 The Chinese have their own problems to worry about. This article is an explicit plea for public funds to be invested into private fusion projects. The rest is a weak attempt to build a sense of urgency.
@@the_rzh The problem is everyone is essentially working on the same designs with the same materials. So it likely several countries will hit commercial reactors at the same time.
Chinese bots are everywhere.
Why you don’t tell us why China are allied with our enemies? Wanna be friends so you can steal our tech and people?
Trying to contain other countries ❌
Pushing your country one step ahead✅
Your own graphs do not support this warmongering rhetoric. Yes, Chinese public funding exceeds US public funding, but the US has a vivid private sector, plus some public funding. And cooperation isn't off the table.
War mongering? How did you get that from there?
We are just handing China our ideas and technology. China has become the builder of the world. I can’t blame them if we are just leaving ideas on the shelf!
Handed ? Honey China invented these . U didn't give china anything
china is also just doing a lot of research in this area
@@Alexander-vo4gvChina has stolen more information from the US and EU than they have researched on their own
what do you mean? China produces the most peer reviewed papers on earth every year. If anything China makes all the ideas
Countries that lead the world in 44 critical technology* sectors:
1. China = 37
2. USA = 7
3. UK = 0
4. Germany = 0
5. Japan = 0
*In fields like defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas
Source: Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI)..
Graphs at 0:10 are disingenuous... Trying to make 5+ Billion look comparable to 1.5 Billion
Ah yes Fusion: only 20 years away since 1962!
Like iran is one week away from nuke for 20years
Yup
@@Amen6magiIf you have piece of paper and a pen, and could draw a picture in 20 minutes but choose not to draw for ten years, are you ten years away from finishing a drawing?
Yes, Physics died in the 1960-1979 era tbh. Everything else are just fix of previous theories and projects, we can’t compare then and now in terms of advances in that type of tech
@@CristianmrWuno we literally achieved mass production of screens because one dude solved the problem of the blue led after 35 years of being stuck in that problem, fusion will happen, inevitably, we can see the sun as a perfect example of fusion working.
Tokamaks were originally designed by the Soviets. The National Ignition Facility is using laser driven extreme optical energy to drive inertial confinement fusion experiments. It is hard to belive that China will become a world leader only a few short years of investment at any scale. The technology is not yet ready for commercialization so choosing a winner technology is impossible. China has rarely ever shown a fist mover advantage. Let's see how tthey perform. This ain't a miature solar cell factory or lithium ion battery manufacturer style tech project.
Right It will be interesting how he will perform in this field of science
China’s strategy is to implement all designs and see which one works best. Even failed designs could boost some industries which could be used in other areas. The technology to build the fertiliser reaction container can be used for submarines body.
No worries. I dropped off a book at my local library yesterday, and Marjorie Green Taylor was sitting at a cubicle solving nuclear fusion.
😂😂😂😂
Why is the question "What's at stake if China wins?" I would hope clean energy is a win for everyone...
A win for the CCP apparently. Will the "Made in China 2025" program benefit the whole world? That would only create mass unemployment around the world, except communist China.
'F u! only US can win! ' screaming... 😂
As an engineer, that’s long way from a one page design to real machine. US just propose some common idea. US never built something works.
Business Insider 4/24/24. “America’s Plastic Catastrophe” ‘China stopped taking our plastic waste. Now we’re drowning in it’
Man i cant believe how many times I've heard
'China is ahead of us on X but its only because they copied us!'
What??? 😂😂
What can I say, U.S is too busy with wars
Since the early 90s, the PhD students in math/physics/chemistry departments of us universities have been majority Chinese from mainland China. Where did American student s go? US should do something to specifically incentivize students to go into those fields.
😂The importance of Europeans has been ignored, and the American media reports on the competition between the United States and China every day. Besides, how can China copy technologies that Americans themselves have not made?
Governments have blocked A LOT of science that could help humanity.
I realize the point of this video (to get more funding for government-led fusion projects) but this is missing the point. Climate change is going to effect the entire world. It's imperative that China and the US work together. During the Cold War, the Lacy-Zarubin agreement worked to get American and Soviet scientists to work together in fields that had a mutual benefit to both countries. There should be a similar agreement between China and the US. Working together to solve climate change is much more important than competing against each other for a goal that will ultimately benefit everyone in both countries.
the point of the video it to get the US government to invest in private projects without getting any equity or share of the profits that may be generated.
@@the_rzh How do you know this?
@@posthocprior It is the request made at the end of the video. "public/private partnerships" like commercial space launches. The US has invested in SpaceX and ULA but does not recieve any equity. The fusion industry wants the same subsidy and expects to keep any profits.
@posthocprior We already got such a collaborative fusion project: ITER. While the intentions behind it are great, I wouldn't qualify ITER as a success story. I think it is quite the opposite, ITER's organizational structure got very complicated and is best described as a next to unmanageable mess. It is a shame that the majority of nuclear fusion funding worldwide has been sunk into that specific technological approach (Tokamak) for decades. It would have been better to fund several other technical alternatives first before settling on a specific approach.
The United States of America does not make friends in order to live better together, but rather it makes them so that those friends become enemies of those whom America considers its enemies.
thats what happens when the government supports innovation
espionage helps too
@@the_rzhsource?
@@SuryaKumar01-j3k experience
@@SuryaKumar01-j3k from this video
@@the_rzh plays a huge role
I work in the industry, and nothing will be built by 2035. There are significant challenges such as enough superconducting tape for the magnets or breeding the fuel. This is a very poor article. You😊 have done little to no research on the matter. Very flippant, I expect better from WSJ.
And what the heck has buildjng fission lants in china got to do with fusion can I ask?
What are your thoughts on MSR technology
They are more interested in flaming the US-CH rivalry than the scientific subject. It could be any other subject to be honest.
They just need a way to spread propaganda in advance and prepare the population to see the other side as hostile and fuel conflict.
One does not just start a conflict out of nowhere. They need to prepare a pipeline of events and paint the other side as the bad guy first.
We need multi polar world ❤
Everybody is outspending the us. It is not the Chinese or the Americans, but the Europeans who spend the most and who have the biggest reactors. The world’s largest fusion project, designed to demonstrate the feasibility of producing more energy from fusion than is consumed. It is the most advanced experimental fusion reactor is being built in France. Other than the Americans, the Europeans do work with China, Japan, Korea and even Russia. By far the most Tokamak’s can be found in Europe and the UK. Maybe it would be better to work with the Chinese instead of seeing them as the enemy? If the Americans think that the laws of physics are different in the US than in the rest of the world, hey might be in for a big surprise.
Are they? Europe isn't a country though. It's hard to argue they are a single entity. It's not uncommon to see separate development among their countries.
But yes, nuclear power should really be universal... it'll really solve world energy issue forever
Cern is there..
The mentality of the US is that only we can be the most advanced country in the world or else it is a national security threat. lol
America can't build a toilet seat these days fusion power might be a bit of a stretch... 😂
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China’s 10X PhDs in Fusion Physics and energy than the US.
Now, that means we have to rely on the rest of the world for talents. At some point, quantity has it own advantage.
China suffers from significant academic integrity issues however. They are notorious for cheating the system.
Ah here comes the Americans. If they can't beat the Chinese in advance tech, they will just accuse the Chinese of copying their tech. Classic text book Americans 😂
Good, let China "copy" the U.S. We are sick of the U.S.' monopolization on everything; competition breeds innovation.
How is it innovation when only one country comes up with the ideas and the other is simply copying its homework? Thats literally the opposite of innovation.
US is too busy with their military adventure to care about low adrenaline nerdy tech stuff
Why does relationship between china and us always framed as a Rivalry? I wish they feature pieces that have more of collaborative nature than tensions between the two. US china relationship is more complicated than that
People still think that competition is somehow more beneficial than collaboration
Because the United States of America is imperialist, and since it had too much trouble trying to dominate China (until now they were only able to dominate the province of Taiwan, but their domination of Chinese territory is about to end), they are trying to "bully" it.
Why does a country always complain instead of trying to solve problems?
Hold it right there!
Last I checked, "think china cares about emitions?" Was still a valid argument. Now what are people supposed to say?
This title is incorrect, the Chinese government is *outspending* the US *government*, because the US is a free market capitalist economy. At 5:35, the economic system the US has adopted is working, and has outspent China over 10 times.
If you ever went to china in vacation you will be baffled at how advanced they are.
Imagine US in 2050 but with proper government and population. Streets are clean, people are respectful. They are not like those you saw on the news.
Its not surprising they have the money for energy research, they dont spent as much on military
Been saying this for the longest. If there were another international “race,” it needs to be for fusion energy. Dunno why this isn’t obvious and wasn’t implemented a decade ago.
Idc who accomplishes it first. As long as it’s helps our species evolve for the better
5:05 US govt isn't spending much compared to Chinese govt but US private companies are spending a lot leaving behind China by some 4 billions of dollars.
So what's there to panick about??
Imagine being the mouth of the government, being super biased towards it on a petty way and still have to report the said goverment is on losing a losing streak for decades...
Somehow, we as Americans manage turn everything, including progress in science & technology into anti-China nagging. This whole video is basically making us sound like “hey I thought of it first, how dare you build it before us!”
At this point China is beating America and Western Europe in everything 😂
In Europe are 6 of this in all flavors;) inkl. A stellerator in germany;)
Then why they still depend on US and also on ASML for their tech and AI products?, maybe has to do with reverse engineering and studying in western countries?
@@CristianmrWuno If someone learns and becomes better than you they are just better, stop coping.
@@blessingndlovu9037 Yep, everything except AI, Space, MedTech, Robotics, Computer chips, Aviation etc
@blessingndlovu9037 Not true-US and the West are light years in DEI, Trans Gender Warp Drive, LGBTQRTFCXZSWETTT+++++, 2 Spirit, Jeffrey has 2 maybe 3 daddies, Non Binary and Super Spectrum Gender Hyper Space. I mean the Chinese could only find 2 genders while the West says it's an entire spectrum and maybe infinite-Wow wow wowee China could NEVER EVER hope to catch up and have abandoned that research (I fully admit that China has utterly lost to the West in this) and instead concentrates on boring STEM so win-win. They each concentrate on their strengths
I'm convinced that we've had fusion unlocked for decades, but it's been repressed.
It's in Area 51!
Countries that lead the world in 44 critical technology* sectors:
1. China = 37
2. USA = 7
3. UK = 0
4. Germany = 0
5. Japan = 0
*In fields like defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas
Source: Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI)
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I wonder who decides what “leads” means. Also half of Chinese “innovation” is just ripping off private American companies.
that entire list from ASPI is silly and only covers research impact papers. Artificial Intelligence - where is Chinas answer to ChatGPT? Space - Why does the US have fully reusable heavy lift rocks and a helicopter flying around mars and china doesn’t?
Also on that list is jet engines. Why aren’t any of these jet engines found on any aircraft today? What is China’s answer to the GE9x Engine?
The whole list is completely bogus
Ah yes fusion. The second biggest grift after Quantum Computing.
This is an understandable state of mind. Any empire that ascends to the position of "world number one" for the first time cannot avoid the mindset of not really believing that it will one day fall from that position. The mandate of heaven of the old central empire, the sun never sets, the American exceptionalism, and the end of history, they are all the same thing. This disbelief dominates their decision-making and can cause them to panic when they actually start to slip from the top of the world.
This mentality of blaming others in copying during development is cry-baby and halting progress in technology advancement. Your design is just something to try and proven-until-worked. So this is a race, credit to your ideas but the one that makes it work shall be the winner as this is a humanity advancement.
Don’t worry. We’re on track to develop fusion within the next 10-15 years.
who China? DONT LET THE COMMIES WIN
The difference between China and the US is that... the US private investors are expecting capital gain return in any investment, versus China is for the great good for the people.
In a capitalist society, a technology that offers free energy is bad because a lot of rich people would loose billions of dollars.
In a socialist society the government work for the people not the billionaires that’s why they invest in such projects
No one has said they are giving the energy away for free.
China isn't socialist
You can say that to the Soviet Union the socialist society. Where are they now?
@@vivliforia2262 USSR were socialist only in name, Lenin described it as state capitalist.
*Person:* (points out the political bias present in a US-based news report)
*‘Murican:* You're a CCP bot!
😂Insecure much?
Copying something that doesn't exist. Wow 😂😂
It would be amazing if China figures this out.
In Europe there is the biggest nuclear fusion experiment, ITER project ("fusion for energy")
China is a part of that, so anything learnt there goes directly back to China.
I hope every country copy any solution that can produce clean energy.
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Fusion, always only 30 yrs away 😂
This reporter speaks as if net-positive fusion has already been achieved in the lab.
It was achieved by U.S scientists on December 5th 2022.
Problem is - in the US people are either down with the fossil fuels, or obsessed with wind and solar. And there’s not much room for anything else.
neoliberalism policies are failing when it comes to building infrastructure. China has proved that SOEs are key to building infrastructure.
What's SOE?
@@Feefa99state owned enterprises
@@Feefa99I'm guessing State owned entities/enterprise?
Even Europe invest more in niclear fussion than US 😅
For national security reasons, the US 🇺🇸 and Canada 🇨🇦 should not let Chinese visa students enrolled in Postgraduate *Nuclear Fusion or Artificial Intelligence* programs.
Totally agree. Been thinking similar for years. How gullible are we?
Is canada even an competitor? Im under the impression we have little to no innovators
True.
How about South Korean and Japanese students? they have similar competitive education system to China. Moving forward I believe these two countries will play an important role for the US in developing the tech sector for the US provided they can get their demographics decline under control.
I'm pretty sure they are just picking up where we left off since there hasn't been adequate funding for years. Why would the US government fund this if oil conglomerates donate more money to political campaigns?
Mom, I'm short of pocket money again🤣🤣
If every engine was electric. We wouldn't have enough lithium for the batteries 😂. Would need 5k nuclear power stations. And would run out of uranium. Fewer babies. More trees
I remember that kid from the second Wall Street movie talked about this! Looks like he finally got the Chinese to invest in it!
China has been a money-printing machine on overdrive.
During the years 1990-2021, the US printed 6.5 times more money while China printed 147 times.
- It has printed more money than the US and Japan combined, while its economy is only half of them.
Current Chinese debt-to-gdp is already *highest in the world, at 300%,* according to Bloomberg.
Still thinking within the corrupt venture capital debt paradigm 😂, China has world class infrastructure & industrial manufacturing to show for it what does the US have to show for it's mountain of debt? 500 Billionares, falling rates of home ownership, inflated grocery prices? 😂
You've forgotten that actual things/goods have value not 1's and 0's on a spreadsheet.
How much has Chinese economy grow vs US during the same time period?
LOL a bit strange if you realize that America is build on debt that never can be paid back. Beware the moment that you lose your position as the world’s reserve currency (another 15 years or so?)
Me when i don't know how economy works 😂
Source : trust me bro
not everything is a race. just say china moves faster
“outspending” yet has to steal intellectual property on every aspect possible.
The mantra of the new Soviet State of Murika
America is by far the leading source of IP theft globally.
This isn’t only a China’s thing. France is actually also recognized by CIA as a big industrial espionage threat to US .
And US also sends economic hitmen everywhere with the proposal: lean toward us and we lend you our technology and badge of honor, lean not and we will overthrow you to install our own version of democracy.
China is a dishonest competitor, yes, but so are all the other countries. Noone is pointing with their hand clean
China's whole industrial sector is built on IP theft.
US hasn't stol en IP? All the way from industrial revolution? Do you really think it was American ingenuity that helped make US the dominant juggernaut? It was copying German and French ta nks that helped us win WW1/WW2. It was Oper ation paper clip that helped us beat the Sov iets in space race not to mention we copied their satellite. Not to mention it was the Sov iets who invented stealth tech.
10 seconds in and your graph says that the U.S. is spending 6BIL while China is spending 2BIL. Doesn't this fundamentally contradict your headline that China is outspending the U.S.?
0:12 I love how the US is funding it with billions more privately, yet this story is all about China being the one that is ahead 😂 does China own this channel?
I certainly would not be surprised. It feels like news and social media have both been compromised.
You missed the rest of the video. The private US funding isn't enough to outweigh Chinas public spending and initiatives to develop fusion. If anything the video was really anti-china. It went to great lengths to say how china "copied' publicly published research (which is kinda the whole point of publicly published research) , copied a US design (that the US never built because they didn't want to spend the money) and spends more money on public funded projects to build these technologies. I'm hardly pro CCP but someone working harder and having more resources isn't a conspiracy, it's just causation. This video seems to spin that as something insidious
Fun fact: The US empire is falling
Currently USA IS BARKING DOG BECAUSE PAST WAS NOT BARKING
Politics are the main driver behind scientific breakthroughs.
This is good.
Although Germans probably said the same to Soviets about V2, Brits to Americans about Spinning Jenny, Dutch to French and Brits about telescope and navigation, and Chinese to the world about compass, paper, printing, porcelain, gunpowder, etc., it’s still funny to hear American media keep nagging about how China is “copying” and surpassing the US. Last time you heard something similar in the US, it was still the 80’s about Japanese cars, electronics and home appliances.😂