Theres a reason everything is bankruptable, if thats a word, except for student loans.. they know what they are doing they are businessman. No shot these judeges bail out poor minorities, they prey on them..and only bail out banks and businesses i.e ppp loans forgiven cuz everything was shut down ..well so were schools and they couldnt go to school which is like 80 percent of the experiance/ resources and those graduating couldn't find job's ..but thats unforgiveable apparently 😂 btw Not saying everyone deserves it or had that happen to them but not everyone qualifies under the bill..there decision and reasoning Thursday will show who's pockets were filled to block this bill
Was I right or was I right lol cmon a lil credit..no ..alright pat myself on the shoulders... there's nothing that can be done to change people's minds when their pockets are being filled ...let this be a reminder that you can tell the future...if you just follow the money 👩⚖️ 👨⚖️ Btw I vent here becsuse I won't let insurance pay for a therapist...I wouldn't want to help them pay for their student loans 😆
No it wasn't. People pull that from a Truman era report but that report actually said that people who want to pursue higher education should be able to take out loans and that the value of the education is such that it will be paid back. Even at that time in that report higher education was not conceived of something that should be taxpayer subsidized, but people take exerpts out of context and deceive people who are motivated to believe that higher education should be free when in fact its argument was that letting people who are motivated borrow money for education would benefit the economy.
Maybe he’s pissed off enough people that a Constitutional Amendment limiting Supreme Court terms will be passed. If it was up to the people, it would pass tomorrow.
If your waiting for Congress to do something "Good luck!" All they worry about is getting paid and who they can screw next. There are some legit people in there but the number is probably honestly less than 10 in the house and the Senate HA maybe 2 or 3 out of 100..
It made perfect sense to me. Only took 16 seconds for him to convey the notion that this should be congress's problem (Democracy) and not a judicial one.
@@thewildman812 if you knew how lawyers and judges spoke, it’s with a well known decorum. A mixture of English and Latin which came from the British empire when we established our government and rule of law. He made it very clear, this is an issue for congress to talk about even if it’s abstract (theoretically) it’s not a discussion for the court it’s one for congress. That was his message the whole time
@@icemelttowater it’s the job of congress. That’s why the Supreme Court took the case. It’s blatantly unconstitutional. Imagine if every president could buy votes like that , hell , they could giveaway new cars or whatever.
Ever hear of the Boston tea party ? “ no taxation without representation “ . We elect congress to appropriate money. that has never been the job of the president.
Right the Supreme Court can’t forgive students loans, neither can the president thanks for convincing us that congress needs to vote on it. Thanks Dems for waiting til after you lost seats in the midterms, great job.
Roberts, you’re blinsighted due to your wealth, lack of caring about average Americans, and your politics! Maybe Congress should act on the wealthiest not paying taxes!!!
The Supreme Court says Congress would need to act on which in this case there was already a law Congress passed giving the executive branch the power to forgive student loans. Here, instead of leaving it up to the Dept. Of Education/ Executive branch, the least democratic branch of our government (SCOTUS) made itself the expert in Student Loan forgiveness.
The price of college tuition is unaffordable, some traing or college is required to make more than miminal wage, so citizens are drawn into a system that hands out money to young students with very little financial knowledge or experience, so forgive some of this obvious debt trap would be moral to these taxpayers citizens, stop winning and being cheap!
I was always under the assumption that congress had to approve expenditures. Otherwise every sitting President could potentially buy votes. This being a great example.
@@pearlmcneil9448 Every bracket got a cut, and those 2017 cuts didn't result in a single penny of reduced IRS revenue. Its public info, you can look it up. After 2017 IRS revenue continued to increase, year after year after year. Why don't you want more money kept in your paycheck?
That’s true, people running for potus might do things that are popular with the average American instead of popular with their average international corporation donor. Good thing we have the scotus packed full of activist “judges”, they can help make sure it goes international corporations’ will > will of the American people.
@@ericw9702 right? Middle class & poor people got a teeny tiny cut that almost kept up with inflation, and rich/ international corporations got a MASSIVE cut that more than kept up with inflation. Purchasing power for the rich & their international corporations went up, purchasing power for normal/working Americans went down.
@@whysocurious7366 The rich, and corporations already pay nearly all the tax burden for the entire nation. Remember, 50% of the population doesn't pay any taxes at all. The top 1% pay more of the IRS revenue than the bottom 90% combined
Why didn't the Democrats control Congress and the White House do something about student loans? And when will the politicians start to address our high tuition cost?
The control of the student loan program in anyway falls under the executive branch not Congress. Congress them self gave the president the necessary powers and the president heads 3 different departments of government all with the independent power to pass student loan forgiveness. So this argument is BS
He has a point. Since student loan forgiveness en masse would require a very large percentage of tax funds and isn't a public service (i.e. like the military or public assistance), it should be something that the citizenry should decide - and in this country, congress are the representatives of the citizenry and should therefore be the ones to formally decide. Having said this, this should also be the case for tax funds that are spent to bail out corporations; in a capitalist market, if a business fails it shouldn't be artificially sustained via tax funds.
Just because you did not get or seek an education, doesn’t mean you can’t still get one or that others who did get one should be dealt out of America. Hard work is hard work. Education is not a privilege; it is a human right.
These students need to pay back their own freaking debt. They made the decision to borrow money and they are responsible to pay it back. It's not the American taxpayers problem.
...but here's the thing. They did act on it. The HEROES act gives the authority needed for this. It's pretty dang clear, and everyone is trying to ignore it.
@@whysocurious7366 How is taking my tax money to pay for other peoples loans benefiting me? Especially if i saved and paid for things without a loan? Why is anyone wanting to reward the grasshoppers for playing by taking from ants who worked hard to save?
@@whysocurious7366 It doesn't benefit every American. If you paid your debts, or didn't go to college because you knew, responsibly, you couldn't afford it why should you foot the bill for those who chose otherwise?
Such a cop out, and the citizens know it. The Supremes know Congress is dead locked, so whenever the federal government does something rich people do not like... along comes this old argument. That the issue really should be resolved not by the federal government as a whole, but by direct order of the one section of it that is incapable of functioning right now. Expect to hear it time and time again, even to things past congress has clearly dealt with prior.
Why not just regulate how much these indoctrination centers charge their victims instead of me having to pay for some stranger when I couldn’t afford to send my own children.
I bet you also argue about your tax "dollars" going to fund public school lunches. Maybe if you didn't buy a 48 pack every 2 days your kids could have had a brighter future.
Without a doubt John Roberts has the air of a spoiled rich kid who’s been told he’s a special boy his whole life and got straight A’s on C- work because his parents cut a huge check to the school every year.
@AC Green so if I'm following you right, you need a college education to make alot of money, and if you don't go to college your going to be making minimum wage? .....
@@technicaldifficulties2522 Ok … I’m being a little dramatic but that’s the basis of my statement. Everyone can have the same profession the the world wouldn’t work.
@AC Green correct. But no one made these people take on the debt. They took it on willingly. They didn't have to go that route. Like a car payment... you (not you directly) didn't need that $650 car payment, but you wanted that fancy car.. now pay up.
@@technicaldifficulties2522 You can always sell the car if the payment was is too much … students are 18 yrs old and they don’t really know what they’re signing up for
If every other free nation in the world can pull it off, so can we if we can only control the corporate greed of this country. There’s no reason to make generational suffering when we can completely flip the script.
“Go to college to get a good education!” What happened to the schooling during the first 18 years? We’re lining the pockets of the university administrators, I’d say. I’ve made some financial mistakes, but going to college to learn things I already knew was pretty damn stupid. Who’d have thought that in America, business management resources would be so freely available online? I say all this to get to my point, that being we’ve found ourselves getting to this state, in my opinion, because of the rise in worthless degrees (degrees where judicial googling can literally, or almost literally, provide the same knowledge as a campus education) and the rise in administrative elements within universities. Fiduciary duty (in this sense defined as the legal obligation to act in the best profit-interest of a business entity) is a scourge. Then there’s the adjunct-based teaching model at most universities these days…
There is no education in this country until you get to college. The rich want to prevent competition thus it cost a mint. Poor kids can go to trade schools like good obedient workers.
College is free if you take school seriously throughout HS. Then there are trades and even state programs that will get you into high paying jobs if you’re in poverty. MI paid in full my CDL and gas money and I make 90k/year. Military also pays for college. You all decided to take out a loan, you and you alone are in debt. This is not what tax money usage was agreed upon for. Plenty of other things that need that money before going to people who made poor and unnecessary choices as a young adult.
When you turn 18, You are considered to be an adult. You've received 12 years of taxpayer funded education. You are expected to make adult decisions for yourself. These decisions include marriage, military, education or work force. That's what adults do is make decisions for themselves. If the wrong decision is made, they then need to figure out how to fix it. It's called problem solving skills. If those problem solving skills include acting the victim and waiting for others to rescue them, there's a problem. It called Learned Helplessness. It will continue and get worse with them demanding to be rescued and blaming others when they aren't. That's called an External Locus of Control. Our society needs to do the right thing by letting these adults work through the situation that they have gotten themselves into and not promote Learned Helplessness.
I have stupid loans and I just graduated from college this is my responsibility to take care of the loans I agreed to if Congress passed a forgiveness act then I would not be so against this is is an abuse of power to pull of the heart strings and get votes
I went to school 13 years ago and it still effects me today … I don’t even work in that field … I made the wrong decision when I was 18 … they sold me on a dream and I believe them
Not to forgive 400 billion dollars in school loans. College students who signed a loans contract to pay for college aren't heros... Especially if they try to make the public pay their loans
You would be illegally defrauding the taxpayer if you took our tax money and loaned it to people with the expectation of paying it back and then decided not to get our money back. They knew the risk and decided to get a loan to waste on useless college degrees
he does know that not what he ruling on, their job is to only look at if the president has the power to not if the public thinks congress has the power
Is a man wearing a dress circumstantial evidence that they are gay? and does it preclude them being straight? if it does not preclude any reasonable theory of being straight is it constitutionally protected? is stating a sexual orientation definitive or speculative? if it is circumstantial evidence then?
You'd like Merrick Garland... Sending paramilitary agents with gun after a guy who protected his son from a violent leftist. After courts found him innocent 2x
All of us healthcare workers had to endure working through the COVID emergency and all we got is a kick in the ass and a jab in the arm we had to take to keep our POS jobs…and they’re complaining because we might get a little leg up in life 🙄
I'm suing the next republican that tries to give away my tax dollars to corporate entities or the wealthiest Americans. Someone needs to reign in this supreme court.
It is the goal of the Democrat party to create and groom a class of people who depend on Government for all needs, while accepting no responsibility for their decisions.
@@bboyHogan Governments provide bailouts in order to maintain regulation of the overall market and economy, and to avoid further collapse of the financial system.
@@bboyHogan ...no....it wouldn't destabilize anything. Much in the same way that millions of repossessed cars due to auto loan delinquency don't change the auto market. Should we bail them out too?
@@bboyHogan Not sure what you mean when saying 'collapse of the education system'. Any idea how many people have or will default on their student loans if the Government does not forgive a portion of student loans? In 2022, the default rate was 2.3%, which is the lowest it has been in several years. Do you have a problem with the permanent freeze on interest if that becomes an option? I dont.
This is the same as any debt relief, how much did the stimulus checks add up to under multiple presidencies? Borrowers are not the only ones impacted by the relief, but those who rely on them as well. FAMILIES of the borrowers will feel the relief. If the conservative court strikes this down, be prepared to see a wave of young, educated people come out in November. We will remember.
You won't remember anything once the next great grift comes around for you to bitch and moan about. You are a vapid and soulless generation with little to no redeemable qualities, skills, or worthwhile contributions to the world and deserve to fester in the poverty you've afforded yourself.
If they were educated, they would understand PPP loans were passed as legislation. This debt forgiveness was executive order/agency policy. That's why it's a constitutional issue and at the Supreme Court. Because the Constitution says in plain English that the House has the power of the purse. Congress makes law, not the president.
The stimulus package was created by an act of congress. That's the whole point. The members of congress we all voted on to represent us voted to create that legislation. That's how it's supposed to work.
2 students- one takes a loan 20 years ago works hard and pays it off. The other takes a loan 5 years ago and gets it paid by the government. Which one has a better grasp of finances?
You wanted something you couldn't afford. You signed a contract and took out a loan. You spent the money how you decided. Pay back your loan. Welcome to being an adult.
@@ZacksRockingLifestyle ppp... You got over 2 years without having to make a payment. Business used the money to pay people because the government shut down their business. No business owner was happy to have their company shut down.
The simple and obvious answer to this is the same as it has always been. Make the wealthy and the corporations pay their own taxes, and tax them fairly. That simple thing would pour money into the economy. Billions of dollars yearly would be free for use. It will in no way harm them and honestly they wouldn't notice it. The concentration of wealth at the top is so egregious and unnecessary.
@@anghusmorgenholz1060 exactly. To put it into metaphor, the rich are like a pump put into a pond, and if they are allowed to operate as they intend, unimpeded, eventually, the pond will drain. The pump isn’t inherently a problem, however, if it drains back into the pond.
I agree. Congress didn’t delegate such broad power to the executive branch through that one act. If congress wants to eliminate the debt of many Americans, then they must specifically do so.
Not really comparable. PPP loans had forgiveness mechanisms written into them, AND were passed by congress. Neither of those two things apply to student loans, OR this forgiveness attempt.
The only issue to the comment made is congress would not act on it. They prefer to bicker with each other to ensure they spend the taxpayer’s money then help the economy. If congress would increase wages or even figure out how to solve the mystery of “universal healthcare” “free education” we wouldn’t be in the mess we are today. The problem with wanting to solve any of these issues is these “colleges/universities” are the government’s money makers. Reducing the interest rate for student loans during this time frame is out of the question…I’m sure. The same goes for helping the taxpayers. It isn’t land of the free but the land of the opportunist and greed.
@@athencroft5139 artificially raising wages devalues the currency. Everything becomes more expensive. It's a dog chasing its tail. It's like people who think the government can print money with no consequences. It's part of reason you're experiencing inflation.
Government flooded a saturated unskilled labor market with 5 million new people willing to work for minimum wage. Labor shortages raise wages. Decisions are made for adding votes, not in the best interest of the citizens
These judges do a great job and try to follow the law but I often wonder if they ever think of the law written long ago by Moses and wonder if they themselves are on the path that leads to life eternal
I agree with you on that one. Thank you for not being another dictator now how do we get contest? Agree on anything they just really like their nifty jobs I think we’re paying them too much because they’re doing very little for the American people.
@@ACGreenTV yes it is! not for you to say what can be “canceled” not my fault you took a loan for school! how bout forgive my auto loan debt??? how bout that??
@@5.7ninetynine Keyword : Can That’s not always the case … certain fields have gone and going to become obsolete. It’s a major decision when you’re only 18 years old, most young adults don’t know what they’re signing up for.
We need to add more justices to the court, like 5 liberal judges. When a court does not protect the rights of the people and actively works to take away rights and freedoms they have become illegitimate. The supreme court is a active political arm of the republican party at this point. Thankfully our founders put in the consitution for congress and the President to be able add seats to that bench aka court packing. The British Monarchs & their ministers sometimes added to The House of Lords when they held up the will of the people.
Wow you are stupid. Nowhere does it say in the Constitution you can add seats. It doesn't say you can't, but court packing is so petty just cause you don't get your unconstitutional stuff.
@@avenue8822 "communist groomers" "Marxist liberals" "Hillary's emails" "Hunter's laptop" "Jewish space lasers" "invasion" "freedoms quashed" "antifa".......better a 1.9 trillion corporate tax cut.....you are great at name calling..... are
Absolutely hilarious !!! Supreme Court is doing exactly what it was designed to do. The executive branch has no authority to do vote paying money giveaways. It’s a constitutional issue. even Nancy warned you that this give away was not constitutional, but you guys believed it anyways and voted Biden. just be responsible and pay back your loans like the generations before you. Nothing has changed. I’m gen X. They pushed school loans on us also. I paid mine back. Why should I pay yours ?
Congress is too busy sending money to everyone else, but their own poor people
Are you poor ? if so you can get on welfare / snap. But you still owe your loans.
@@MikeSmith-tu1lnHave you ever been on snap or welfare?
Theres a reason everything is bankruptable, if thats a word, except for student loans.. they know what they are doing they are businessman. No shot these judeges bail out poor minorities, they prey on them..and only bail out banks and businesses i.e ppp loans forgiven cuz everything was shut down ..well so were schools and they couldnt go to school which is like 80 percent of the experiance/ resources and those graduating couldn't find job's ..but thats unforgiveable apparently 😂 btw Not saying everyone deserves it or had that happen to them but not everyone qualifies under the bill..there decision and reasoning Thursday will show who's pockets were filled to block this bill
Was I right or was I right lol cmon a lil credit..no ..alright pat myself on the shoulders... there's nothing that can be done to change people's minds when their pockets are being filled ...let this be a reminder that you can tell the future...if you just follow the money 👩⚖️ 👨⚖️
Btw I vent here becsuse I won't let insurance pay for a therapist...I wouldn't want to help them pay for their student loans 😆
Bingo I would just say their own people period though.
Education wasn't always a business in the usa. It used to be considered a public asset, meant to better the lives of Americans, not indenture us.
But that's exactly what the Oligarchs want us to be. The Supreme Court and Republicans are simply doing their bidding.
Thank obama. Lol and biden.
@@gaigegrosskreutzmissingbic5591 that was actually Ronald regean, but ok.
No it wasn't. People pull that from a Truman era report but that report actually said that people who want to pursue higher education should be able to take out loans and that the value of the education is such that it will be paid back. Even at that time in that report higher education was not conceived of something that should be taxpayer subsidized, but people take exerpts out of context and deceive people who are motivated to believe that higher education should be free when in fact its argument was that letting people who are motivated borrow money for education would benefit the economy.
The older I get the more I see how f’d up everything is. It literally makes me sick
Only In America
We need new Supreme Court justices
10 to 20 thousand shaved off our student loan balances is not going to wipe out student loan debt, but every little bit helps.
Well you can work and pay it off your yourself.
Working helps too.
If you took the loan, you pay the loan. Pretty basic stuff.
Gee, why not shave some money off of my mortgage, too?
You could steal money or sling dope to take some off also. Lots of options better than making me and my kids pay your tuition.
Mister Roberts you must do the right thing for the people not to keep trump from tried in court no one is above the laws,We the people
Tax cuts for billionaires cost us a lot more and somehow aren't controversial at all. Explain
No other democracy has a court so out of control and unaccountable.
Maybe he’s pissed off enough people that a Constitutional Amendment limiting Supreme Court terms will be passed. If it was up to the people, it would pass tomorrow.
If your waiting for Congress to do something "Good luck!" All they worry about is getting paid and who they can screw next. There are some legit people in there but the number is probably honestly less than 10 in the house and the Senate HA maybe 2 or 3 out of 100..
Typical. He talked for 16 seconds and didn't say a thing.
It made perfect sense to me. Only took 16 seconds for him to convey the notion that this should be congress's problem (Democracy) and not a judicial one.
@@ericw9702 I guess he didn't convey it well. If he'd used your words it would have made perfect sense.
@@uppitydawg6421 Believe me, I'm no liberal. I just want plain words to come out of their mouths like "Stuff your loan forgiveness up your @ss".
@@thewildman812 if you knew how lawyers and judges spoke, it’s with a well known decorum. A mixture of English and Latin which came from the British empire when we established our government and rule of law. He made it very clear, this is an issue for congress to talk about even if it’s abstract (theoretically) it’s not a discussion for the court it’s one for congress. That was his message the whole time
Oh no, the smooth-brains are confused!!
The question has absolutely nothing to do with the legal question at hand
Right on. Roberts knows Biden is within his legal authority to forgive student loans that's why he's talking in the "abstract." What a joke!!
Its an analogy
That’s not the role of the judiciary let alone the scotus
Correct, but it's also not the role of the president either. So they have to act as the balance of power.
Yes it is. This is a constitutional issue. That’s why they took it.
@@icemelttowater it’s the job of congress. That’s why the Supreme Court took the case. It’s blatantly unconstitutional. Imagine if every president could buy votes like that , hell , they could giveaway new cars or whatever.
Ever hear of the Boston tea party ? “ no taxation without representation “ . We elect congress to appropriate money. that has never been the job of the president.
Right the Supreme Court can’t forgive students loans, neither can the president thanks for convincing us that congress needs to vote on it.
Thanks Dems for waiting til after you lost seats in the midterms, great job.
Roberts, you’re blinsighted due to your wealth, lack of caring about average Americans, and your politics! Maybe Congress should act on the wealthiest not paying taxes!!!
Interesting thought, that could happen. When the people say enough is enough.
The Supreme Court says Congress would need to act on which in this case there was already a law Congress passed giving the executive branch the power to forgive student loans. Here, instead of leaving it up to the Dept. Of Education/ Executive branch, the least democratic branch of our government (SCOTUS) made itself the expert in Student Loan forgiveness.
The price of college tuition is unaffordable, some traing or college is required to make more than miminal wage, so citizens are drawn into a system that hands out money to young students with very little financial knowledge or experience, so forgive some of this obvious debt trap would be moral to these taxpayers citizens, stop winning and being cheap!
I was always under the assumption that congress had to approve expenditures. Otherwise every sitting President could potentially buy votes.
This being a great example.
TAX BREAKS sure are...... You know Corporate Welfare
@@pearlmcneil9448 Every bracket got a cut, and those 2017 cuts didn't result in a single penny of reduced IRS revenue. Its public info, you can look it up. After 2017 IRS revenue continued to increase, year after year after year. Why don't you want more money kept in your paycheck?
That’s true, people running for potus might do things that are popular with the average American instead of popular with their average international corporation donor. Good thing we have the scotus packed full of activist “judges”, they can help make sure it goes international corporations’ will > will of the American people.
@@ericw9702 right? Middle class & poor people got a teeny tiny cut that almost kept up with inflation, and rich/ international corporations got a MASSIVE cut that more than kept up with inflation. Purchasing power for the rich & their international corporations went up, purchasing power for normal/working Americans went down.
@@whysocurious7366 The rich, and corporations already pay nearly all the tax burden for the entire nation. Remember, 50% of the population doesn't pay any taxes at all. The top 1% pay more of the IRS revenue than the bottom 90% combined
Daddy paid for his education and he likely doesn’t even pay taxes so what’s he worried about?
And you pay his salary 🤣
Why didn't the Democrats control Congress and the White House do something about student loans? And when will the politicians start to address our high tuition cost?
Biden tried and was shut down by Supreme Court
“If you’re talking about this in the abstract…” lucky for us we are at the Supreme Court arguing the specifics of emergency action under the HEROES.
You didn’t say that about abortion
Abortion isn't a right.
That's because this clip is about student loans not abortion
Dumbest comment on ruling EVER! He is not quoting law, only offering up opinions of his own which have nothing to do with law!
I can’t tell if the Supremes understand the reality of the Electoral College. I think they don’t.
It probably down to what Roberts, Barrett, and Kavenough think. As a side note I read the Koch network is against student loan relief
Terrible
The control of the student loan program in anyway falls under the executive branch not Congress. Congress them self gave the president the necessary powers and the president heads 3 different departments of government all with the independent power to pass student loan forgiveness. So this argument is BS
False
Too many reasons to list why that assumption is false. Sorry
He has a point. Since student loan forgiveness en masse would require a very large percentage of tax funds and isn't a public service (i.e. like the military or public assistance), it should be something that the citizenry should decide - and in this country, congress are the representatives of the citizenry and should therefore be the ones to formally decide. Having said this, this should also be the case for tax funds that are spent to bail out corporations; in a capitalist market, if a business fails it shouldn't be artificially sustained via tax funds.
Why don’t Hackers just hack this & make them deal with it? Things that make you go hmmm
Rite everything else gets hacked
It should not be on the American taxpayers to pay for debt that others got themselves into.......
UA-cam this video, THE MONEY MASTERS
We hesitate for our fellow Americans but not the billions being sent overseas something is very wrong here
@@Evolutionleadher Apples to Oranges.
What's 'wrong' is Executive Branch over reach.
Well move to another country
Just because you did not get or seek an education, doesn’t mean you can’t still get one or that others who did get one should be dealt out of America. Hard work is hard work. Education is not a privilege; it is a human right.
Education is a human right and should be affordable. It should never be "for profit."
Don’t take loans you don’t wanna pay back. The the other foot this government has zero business giving all our money to Ukraine.
Chief Justice Roberts turns out to be one great Chief justice of the USA supreme court
These students need to pay back their own freaking debt. They made the decision to borrow money and they are responsible to pay it back. It's not the American taxpayers problem.
...but here's the thing. They did act on it. The HEROES act gives the authority needed for this. It's pretty dang clear, and everyone is trying to ignore it.
Sorry, but student loan forgiveness shouldn’t be covered under any plandemic policy.
@@robfarrell9104 even if it benefits every American? And only negatively affects international corporations?
@@whysocurious7366
How is taking my tax money to pay for other peoples loans benefiting me?
Especially if i saved and paid for things without a loan?
Why is anyone wanting to reward the grasshoppers for playing by taking from ants who worked hard to save?
@@whysocurious7366 please explain because right now you are a net negative to society.
@@whysocurious7366 It doesn't benefit every American. If you paid your debts, or didn't go to college because you knew, responsibly, you couldn't afford it why should you foot the bill for those who chose otherwise?
Such a cop out, and the citizens know it.
The Supremes know Congress is dead locked, so whenever the federal government does something rich people do not like... along comes this old argument. That the issue really should be resolved not by the federal government as a whole, but by direct order of the one section of it that is incapable of functioning right now. Expect to hear it time and time again, even to things past congress has clearly dealt with prior.
Which is better public or private? Is education a privilege or a human right? Should colleges and public universities at some point be tuition free?
If it’s for congress to act on then why is it before the Supreme Court?
That’s what Roberts is asking
That is literally why he's asking this. But the courts naturally flow toward the Supreme Court to decide.
Why not just regulate how much these indoctrination centers charge their victims instead of me having to pay for some stranger when I couldn’t afford to send my own children.
I bet you also argue about your tax "dollars" going to fund public school lunches. Maybe if you didn't buy a 48 pack every 2 days your kids could have had a brighter future.
Without a doubt John Roberts has the air of a spoiled rich kid who’s been told he’s a special boy his whole life and got straight A’s on C- work because his parents cut a huge check to the school every year.
😂 Asking congress to do something is useless
That’s nice. But what does the law say?
Easy to know how he will rule by that statement.
First take the gold spoon out of THY mouth, SCOTUS
But when bailouts are needed or war hits or something else in the world ....take our money
There is no reason for bail outs. If you can't manage it well, then some one else will
Who made the choice to take on the debt?
Damn if you do … damn if don’t … get a higher education and gain an insurmountable debt or forgo a higher education and receive minimum wage …
@AC Green so if I'm following you right, you need a college education to make alot of money, and if you don't go to college your going to be making minimum wage? .....
@@technicaldifficulties2522 Ok … I’m being a little dramatic but that’s the basis of my statement. Everyone can have the same profession the the world wouldn’t work.
@AC Green correct. But no one made these people take on the debt. They took it on willingly. They didn't have to go that route. Like a car payment... you (not you directly) didn't need that $650 car payment, but you wanted that fancy car.. now pay up.
@@technicaldifficulties2522 You can always sell the car if the payment was is too much … students are 18 yrs old and they don’t really know what they’re signing up for
If you took out a student loan, then you need to pay it all back.
On a simplistic level, I can understand why you would think that.
@@shelleysteed1767 Simplistic? If you borrow money, you pay it back. There's nothing simplistic about anything but your lack of logic.
My god does John Roberts look like he’s forced to smile while crying in some of those pictures
😂
If every other free nation in the world can pull it off, so can we if we can only control the corporate greed of this country. There’s no reason to make generational suffering when we can completely flip the script.
“Go to college to get a good education!”
What happened to the schooling during the first 18 years?
We’re lining the pockets of the university administrators, I’d say.
I’ve made some financial mistakes, but going to college to learn things I already knew was pretty damn stupid. Who’d have thought that in America, business management resources would be so freely available online?
I say all this to get to my point, that being we’ve found ourselves getting to this state, in my opinion, because of the rise in worthless degrees (degrees where judicial googling can literally, or almost literally, provide the same knowledge as a campus education) and the rise in administrative elements within universities. Fiduciary duty (in this sense defined as the legal obligation to act in the best profit-interest of a business entity) is a scourge.
Then there’s the adjunct-based teaching model at most universities these days…
There is no education in this country until you get to college. The rich want to prevent competition thus it cost a mint. Poor kids can go to trade schools like good obedient workers.
College is free if you take school seriously throughout HS.
Then there are trades and even state programs that will get you into high paying jobs if you’re in poverty.
MI paid in full my CDL and gas money and I make 90k/year.
Military also pays for college.
You all decided to take out a loan, you and you alone are in debt.
This is not what tax money usage was agreed upon for. Plenty of other things that need that money before going to people who made poor and unnecessary choices as a young adult.
The problem at the end of the day remains certain aspects of capitalism (which I prefer) and how our politicians choose to act.
When you turn 18, You are considered to be an adult. You've received 12 years of taxpayer funded education. You are expected to make adult decisions for yourself. These decisions include marriage, military, education or work force. That's what adults do is make decisions for themselves. If the wrong decision is made, they then need to figure out how to fix it. It's called problem solving skills. If those problem solving skills include acting the victim and waiting for others to rescue them, there's a problem. It called Learned Helplessness. It will continue and get worse with them demanding to be rescued and blaming others when they aren't. That's called an External Locus of Control.
Our society needs to do the right thing by letting these adults work through the situation that they have gotten themselves into and not promote Learned Helplessness.
I have stupid loans and I just graduated from college this is my responsibility to take care of the loans I agreed to if Congress passed a forgiveness act then I would not be so against this is is an abuse of power to pull of the heart strings and get votes
this isnt an abuse of power. progressives have been pushing Loan Forgiveness for like 3 or 4 years.
I went to school 13 years ago and it still effects me today … I don’t even work in that field … I made the wrong decision when I was 18 … they sold me on a dream and I believe them
I want my mortgage and auto loan forgiven please....thank you!
He's right.
Men have a recreational Media Time Slot
Congress passed the act
Not to forgive 400 billion dollars in school loans. College students who signed a loans contract to pay for college aren't heros... Especially if they try to make the public pay their loans
Proof?
Its not fair isnt a legal argument but we have a radical right wing activitist Supreme Court so...
You would be illegally defrauding the taxpayer if you took our tax money and loaned it to people with the expectation of paying it back and then decided not to get our money back. They knew the risk and decided to get a loan to waste on useless college degrees
How do you know the degree was useless?
Watch suicides increase this year and for the elderly. They don't care as long as it has a stock buybacks. Hold your loved ones close
Fair response
he does know that not what he ruling on, their job is to only look at if the president has the power to not if the public thinks congress has the power
Is a man wearing a dress circumstantial evidence that they are gay? and does it preclude them being straight? if it does not preclude any reasonable theory of being straight is it constitutionally protected? is stating a sexual orientation definitive or speculative? if it is circumstantial evidence then?
Can I sue based on the speculative possibility that I am an injured person?
He should have never been a Chief Justice.
You'd like Merrick Garland... Sending paramilitary agents with gun after a guy who protected his son from a violent leftist. After courts found him innocent 2x
Chief activist.
Why not
All of us healthcare workers had to endure working through the COVID emergency and all we got is a kick in the ass and a jab in the arm we had to take to keep our POS jobs…and they’re complaining because we might get a little leg up in life 🙄
Worest first ever
I'm suing the next republican that tries to give away my tax dollars to corporate entities or the wealthiest Americans. Someone needs to reign in this supreme court.
Congress authorized . That’s the point. president can’t lol
You're the moron who took the loan
@@cappy2282 FU
He’s literally saying checks and balances are a thing congress controls the purse . This is basic civics
@@kevini4295 Corporations put more food on American families tables than any Gender Studies degree ever will...
I didn't go to college to stay where I was born!
It is the goal of the Democrat party to create and groom a class of people who depend on Government for all needs, while accepting no responsibility for their decisions.
@@bboyHogan Governments provide bailouts in order to maintain regulation of the overall market and economy, and to avoid further collapse of the financial system.
@@bboyHogan ...no....it wouldn't destabilize anything. Much in the same way that millions of repossessed cars due to auto loan delinquency don't change the auto market. Should we bail them out too?
@@bboyHogan Not sure what you mean when saying 'collapse of the education system'.
Any idea how many people have or will default on their student loans if the Government does not forgive a portion of student loans? In 2022, the default rate was 2.3%, which is the lowest it has been in several years.
Do you have a problem with the permanent freeze on interest if that becomes an option? I dont.
That's it ,in a nutshell.
@@bboyHogan Federally backed student loan defaults aren't crashing the economy...
Passing the buck
I want my money back if passes since I paid my bill imfull,
You win some; you lose some. That's life. 🤷♀️
This is the same as any debt relief, how much did the stimulus checks add up to under multiple presidencies? Borrowers are not the only ones impacted by the relief, but those who rely on them as well. FAMILIES of the borrowers will feel the relief. If the conservative court strikes this down, be prepared to see a wave of young, educated people come out in November. We will remember.
You won't remember anything once the next great grift comes around for you to bitch and moan about. You are a vapid and soulless generation with little to no redeemable qualities, skills, or worthwhile contributions to the world and deserve to fester in the poverty you've afforded yourself.
Bahahahahaha pay your gd debt yourself.
If they were educated, they would understand PPP loans were passed as legislation. This debt forgiveness was executive order/agency policy. That's why it's a constitutional issue and at the Supreme Court. Because the Constitution says in plain English that the House has the power of the purse. Congress makes law, not the president.
To do what?, you dont vote for supreme court justices.
The stimulus package was created by an act of congress. That's the whole point. The members of congress we all voted on to represent us voted to create that legislation. That's how it's supposed to work.
2 students- one takes a loan 20 years ago works hard and pays it off. The other takes a loan 5 years ago and gets it paid by the government.
Which one has a better grasp of finances?
You wanted something you couldn't afford. You signed a contract and took out a loan. You spent the money how you decided. Pay back your loan.
Welcome to being an adult.
Amen.
Uh, PPP?
@@ZacksRockingLifestyle ppp... You got over 2 years without having to make a payment.
Business used the money to pay people because the government shut down their business.
No business owner was happy to have their company shut down.
@@ZacksRockingLifestylebusinesses forced. People not forced into school loans.
You forgot the grooming kids into going to college all their childhood part lmao
yeah lets get all the PPP loan money back and take it to court
Robert's is Drunk all the time.
Traitor
Christians In Supreme Court.
CHRISIS
ResignJohn
Your loan , your payment. I don’t want to pay my mortgage, so you pay it.
PPP loans?
The simple and obvious answer to this is the same as it has always been. Make the wealthy and the corporations pay their own taxes, and tax them fairly. That simple thing would pour money into the economy. Billions of dollars yearly would be free for use. It will in no way harm them and honestly they wouldn't notice it. The concentration of wealth at the top is so egregious and unnecessary.
@@anghusmorgenholz1060 exactly. To put it into metaphor, the rich are like a pump put into a pond, and if they are allowed to operate as they intend, unimpeded, eventually, the pond will drain.
The pump isn’t inherently a problem, however, if it drains back into the pond.
@@ZacksRockingLifestylepassed by congress. That the whole point. Seems your catching on !
@TheZSquaredMusic PPP Was passed by congress.
don't bogard that there joint my friend.
I agree. Congress didn’t delegate such broad power to the executive branch through that one act. If congress wants to eliminate the debt of many Americans, then they must specifically do so.
Im sure they all got PPP loans and got them forgiven, yet they complain about this smh
Not really comparable. PPP loans had forgiveness mechanisms written into them, AND were passed by congress. Neither of those two things apply to student loans, OR this forgiveness attempt.
Do you even realize who/what the PPP loans benefited?
Apparently not.
The only issue to the comment made is congress would not act on it. They prefer to bicker with each other to ensure they spend the taxpayer’s money then help the economy.
If congress would increase wages or even figure out how to solve the mystery of “universal healthcare” “free education” we wouldn’t be in the mess we are today.
The problem with wanting to solve any of these issues is these “colleges/universities” are the government’s money makers.
Reducing the interest rate for student loans during this time frame is out of the question…I’m sure. The same goes for helping the taxpayers.
It isn’t land of the free but the land of the opportunist and greed.
You think congress can increase wages... And the costs of everything will remain the same? Everything you wrote is simplistic rambling.
@@hdtvcamera1 and if this is all you can contribute to enlighten me then you are no better 💅🏼
@@athencroft5139 artificially raising wages devalues the currency. Everything becomes more expensive. It's a dog chasing its tail.
It's like people who think the government can print money with no consequences. It's part of reason you're experiencing inflation.
Government flooded a saturated unskilled labor market with 5 million new people willing to work for minimum wage. Labor shortages raise wages.
Decisions are made for adding votes, not in the best interest of the citizens
Please cry about it more.
These judges do a great job and try to follow the law but I often wonder if they ever think of the law written long ago by Moses and wonder if they themselves are on the path that leads to life eternal
Ha ha ha 😩😩😩
Congress should make the Colleges and Universities refund their tuition it the degrees they infer don't earn the student enough to pay his loans back.
These people don’t even understand that the major underlying theme of Christianity is the forgiving of debt.
Please please forgive my mortgage debt ?
Not the same … a mortgage is tangible … your property is collateral …
@@ACGreenTVSo are your wages and job. Pay your student debt.
I refuse to pay my student loan back and won't.
Lol 😂
Okay. They'll just garnish your wages then. Not my problem.
Watch your paycheck get smaller without your control😀
I agree with you on that one. Thank you for not being another dictator now how do we get contest? Agree on anything they just really like their nifty jobs I think we’re paying them too much because they’re doing very little for the American people.
I want my taxes forgiven! give me back my money!!!!
Not the same …
@@ACGreenTV yes it is! not for you to say what can be “canceled” not my fault you took a loan for school! how bout forgive my auto loan debt??? how bout that??
@@5.7ninetynine An auto loan is tangible … your vehicle is collateral … you can sell your car
@@ACGreenTV 🤔… well people can make more money with college degrees
@@5.7ninetynine Keyword : Can
That’s not always the case … certain fields have gone and going to become obsolete. It’s a major decision when you’re only 18 years old, most young adults don’t know what they’re signing up for.
,but Sir ; the executive is of state and the plaintiffs become the liabilities of the court . Justice of today. Sir . .. ..🇺🇸
Justitia Hodie
Thats your loan and your debt. Not the tax payers responsibility.
For all these mad comments of debtors Howd you not learn basic civics in any school you went to?
What comment? All I see is uneducated people trying to cope with the fact this will happen, no standing.
We need to add more justices to the court, like 5 liberal judges. When a court does not protect the rights of the people and actively works to take away rights and freedoms they have become illegitimate. The supreme court is a active political arm of the republican party at this point. Thankfully our founders put in the consitution for congress and the President to be able add seats to that bench aka court packing. The British Monarchs & their ministers sometimes added to The House of Lords when they held up the will of the people.
Ok tyrant.
The Supreme Court is only standing for democracy saying that elected representatives need to vote on it.
Wow you are stupid. Nowhere does it say in the Constitution you can add seats. It doesn't say you can't, but court packing is so petty just cause you don't get your unconstitutional stuff.
Let me lick your tears
Dump Republicans Now
They graduated and paid.
Nice try
@@avenue8822 just think of all the "indoctrination"....
@@CliffnDonChappellDuncan I do. I taught my boys to be men before the Liberal Teachers could teach them to be girls.
@@CliffnDonChappellDuncan Who is that? The Marxist indoctrinated Liberals who dropped out after 2 semesters and want a tax payer bailout? Not sure.
@@avenue8822 "communist groomers" "Marxist liberals" "Hillary's emails" "Hunter's laptop" "Jewish space lasers" "invasion" "freedoms quashed" "antifa".......better a 1.9 trillion corporate tax cut.....you are great at name calling.....
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Agreed. Scotus stay out of politics, that's not your job!
Politics? So Executive Branch over reach is about Politics and not the Constitution?
Absolutely hilarious !!! Supreme Court is doing exactly what it was designed to do. The executive branch has no authority to do vote paying money giveaways. It’s a constitutional issue. even Nancy warned you that this give away was not constitutional, but you guys believed it anyways and voted Biden. just be responsible and pay back your loans like the generations before you. Nothing has changed. I’m gen X. They pushed school loans on us also. I paid mine back. Why should I pay yours ?
Great, congress did in the heroes act
College students getting 400 billion transferred to the taxpayers wasn't the objective of that legislation
You dum ass
Reread part D
How does the hero act allow a president to wipe out half a trillion in debt from university students no where in the hero act is this allowed
You've never read the HEROES Act. Shut it.