I raced professional motocross in the 1970’s. If you have a long straightaway that is when horsepower is king. On everything else it’s the rider. Great bike for the price. Still miss all the European bikes of the 70’s. Bultaco, Maico, CZ, Jawa, Penton, Puch, and Husky still lives. I raced Montesa 125 and CZ 400.
@@TheMegatron673 Aight...there's a whole other worldly problem to your question. 1. THE EMISSION PROBLEM: As we speak, the reality that 2 strokes exist in the market is a complete anomaly. EU7 is slowly being implemented, and America's EPA just doesn't allow for 2 stroke manufacturing in motorcycles unless they pay off the so called smog tax. In the next coming years, 2 strokes let alone 4 strokes won't be an option. 3. THE TUNER PROBLEM: Almost all 2 Strokes that are being manufactured above 250cc have EFI equipped through port, or direct injection. The reason the Banshee was popular was due to their simplicity. By compromising to emission standards, you might end up with a refined 2 stroke that runs pretty good and is pretty efficient...but completely ruins the opportunity for the buyer to work/tune his rig at home, and leaves even fewer options for aftermarket. No more Cheetah Jugs like the old days. 4. NO MONEY TO BE MADE: The Banshee while being one of the Top 3 best sport quads ever created, and one of Yamaha's best sellers in the past...would not do good in todays market. The Banshee was a product of it's time, because the Sport quad market was killed off by the 4x4 ATV's, then were finished off by UTV's or Side by Sides which is what everybody wants these days. Yamaha is the last manufacture of the Sport Quad, and they're losing money keeping them on their roster. Heck, the Raptor 700 outsells the YFZ450. Besides, the sport quad has become a specialized item that only a certain group buys. To better put it into perspective, the Banshee wouldn't be considered apart of the "Sport Quad" market, but the "2 Stroke Sport Quad Market"
I just bought this bike. I see the washers to raise the handlebars are supposed to go above, not below. At 6'6", it's a wee bit small. I got bar risers on the way and will lower footpegs later. I went in for a 140F, came out with this fun ripper! It's basically a 125!
@@ScaryRevenant I heard to improve your riding you should step down a size. I'm sure I look goofy, but it gets my workout done. My 01 yamaha 426F needs head work...
Up here in the North East, big wheels are in Super Mini only, but 85's can race the Supermini's, my 12 year old races them on his 2022 KX85, and just took 4th oveall this weekend out of 21 kids in the Supermini class, the 2022 KX112 won it again, and will win the Championship here probably.
Damn, I wish I was a kid again. I had the most fun riding the old kx100 over any bike I ever rode afterwards. Kawasaki is a legend for continuing to develop these small 2 strokes.
The KX100 was my first Dirt Bike, i started riding at 14 and grew (a little lol) but the complaints they claimed i could relate cockpit is so damn cramped, you have to give a lot of throttle its scary when it was your first time especially on a stroke. took me a good few rides on trails and on track kinda to get good. its the most fun you can have though especially catching people on bigger 4 strokes. but its time to give that bike a rest, 2 years ago i tried a yz125 and felt comfy with bigger cockpit and responsive throttle. that was the last time i rode until i went to glamis to once again fire up the 100. next bike is tough to choose... a 350 4 stroke or 300 2 stroke..
We own both, KX112 and 2021 KTM 85 (17/14) and the differences are huge, as a parent i was trying the cheaper route out by purchasing the KX112 for his next level of racing but after upgrading the Handlebars/clamps, foot-pegs, front/rear springs and even rear sprocket (gearing) my son still gravitates to his KTM, endless discussions about how better it feels (body positioning) and horsepower, last weekend at our local race event he placed 8th on the KTM and 27th on the Kawi, cam off the track upset about the bike and therefore it for sale in our local Kijiji ad here in Canada where we live, i understand the comments about how some people say "the kids seem spoiled" as i grew up sharing a 1979 Yamaha GT 80cc, but its true KTM, Husky & Gas Gas have us by the balls, the frame on our 112 looks to be welded by a kid, disc brakes, rear swingarm and a few other parts are lacking, these kid test riders couldn't be More right with their testing reviews.
I’ve raced all 85’s and it is safe to say that KTM takes the cake. The ultimate race bike for a kid. Even when bought “stock” from the dealership it comes loaded with better parts. I have pulled more hole shots on the ktm 85 than I did with all other 85’s combined
Got our son a 2022 KX85 and man does he love it, its his first year and coming from a KX65 to KX85 this season, i had him a 2005 KX85 but he wanted a new bike, and because i was actually able to save money from 2016-2020 we could buy him it for Christmas, unlike the Biden Economy!!! but anyways the 2022 is def bigger than the 2005 KX85 we have, but the shifting is so smooth, the cluth is so smooth, a few of his friends ride KTM SX85's and always come over and pull his clutch lever, and say OMGOSH i wish my KTM clutch was this nice, i guess i gotta grab their clutch one day to see what their talking about...Team Green...Always!
dear mxa, if you guys could make a supermini lineup shootout it would be very interesting. all the big wheel 85 with 150r and kx 112 all side by side. for all the short adult out here.
Hi, i’m an adult 5’9 weigh about 150 pounds. I want a bike that I can easily manhandle and bail from if I need to. Don’t wanna bike that I have to really reach to get on and off of. Want to be able to go around trees and landscapes without any problem of a heavy big bike? My question is though, will this kind of bike have enough power to get me up a nice steep hill if I ever want to do any mountain climbing. Thanx
After you get past the first 9 minutes of " it's not a ktm" they actually talked about the kawi. Seems every introduction, rest and review at MXA, not matter what bike, Is 3/4's " ITS NOT A KTM" and 1/4 about the actual bike they're focused on at the moment. Whats the point of having the shoot outs? If you listen to the introduction, test and review of what ever the focus bike is.. They're already telling you the out come of the shoot out. Wasted pages, ink and time if you ask us. All bike reviews are specifically for racers, wich is fine I get it...what we don't like is the "if you're not a pro, your bike sucks" narritive.
I watch my son on his 2022 KX85 and his 2 friends on their KX112's eat KTM's every weekend, there is 2 kids that do win sometimes with KTM's, but i see them broke down more often, and way more than any Kawiasaki out there thats for sure!
This is basically a video about how good the KTM mini is and how bad the new KX112 is in comparison to KTM. As in every other video MXA does, they only praise KTM products don't waste your time if your looking for an honest review of the KX112
Sounds like your mad that ktm makes a better product because half the time these bikes test just suck off Yamaha even though they don’t actually make more bottem end
Bro your Crazy! we have a 2022 KX85 and eat KTM's/ Husq/ GasGas/ every weekend, and the kids on the New KX112's are winning all the Super Mini's! say nothing about how you can just keep racing the KX's race after race, when the Autrian Bikes seem way mor high maintenence! Pain and simple....
People its the same frame and suspension since late 90s. This is a "revised" 100 engine meaning same dang thing just updated. Suspension is 2000 tech and engine is 90s tech. Its not snobbery liking ktm over this for racing because the ktm is LIGHTYEARS ahead of the jap minis in EVERY way. Dont be mad because the Japanese brands rebadge same crap and ask more money while ktm actually makes REAL changes to their line up in regular intervals. For play riding any bike is good. For racing you literally are at a huge disadvantage choosing anything but ktm in the mini classes
Yes but it also has a lot to do with the compression of the engine, the gearing the rider is using, the suspension geometry, and the track conditions. But you also need to remember that the ktm after markup and tax is around 2500 more than the kawasaki on average and has much more rigorous maintenance scheduling. KTM has a pedigree of being the absolute best in terms of raw performance if rider skill is not taken into account, but that performance comes at a cost of faster wear on the motor due to tighter tolerances. ALSO something else to keep in mind too that I didn't hear them mention in the video is that KTM in the LONG RUN will cost MORE to maintain, not ONLY because of the faster maintenance intervals, but because of that KTM tax where the same piston for the 112 is about 20% cheaper. It really just depends on your use case and how seriously you take yourself/your kid, if you want the kid to have a vehicle that performs like an INDY car, the top of the line best you can get, you need to understand it will have the same level and detail of care required where as the Kawasaki is the every-day race bike that you don't feel bad about crashing or beating on.
Wow . That’s a really negative review. Ktm must be your big. Sponsor. You’re favouring them and they don’t even have a bike in that class . As a parent I don’t want to buy a bike and tear it apart to build the motor to compete .
@@jordanndelange7598 If you talking about the Austrian bikes, ive never owned one, and would not buy one of the smaller kids bikes, 65/85/Supermini, i watch them every weekend go down one after another due to something failing, wether a powervalve problem, or fouling plug after plug! Bikes are bikes and things always break, but man the KTM's kids bikes are down more than any others that i see.
Yes I agree with ktm kids bikes being down, I personally own a 2022 Husqvarna tc 125 with 35 hours and I haven't had 1 days problem with it . I also had a 2019 Husqvarna 85 with 55 hours and didn't have any problems with it while riding. My dad has a Husqvarna Fe 350 (2020) and both my uncles have 2020 Te 300 i's. What I am trying to say is we service our bikes on tiem and look after them and we don't have any problems.
@@jordanndelange7598 Maintenence is key, but with our Kawasaki smaller bikes, they are pretty bullet proof, my sons (2009 "REAL" Monster Edition KX65) we bought it with 14 hours on it in 2020, it sat from 2011 until 2020, He immediately raced it and got it to 104 Hours, all stock never changing anything but 1 spark plug, and it didnt need to be changed, just wanted a new one in it, then we did a complete rebuild at 104 hours, and now its at 186 hours, and still going strong, Team Green!
I raced professional motocross in the 1970’s. If you have a long straightaway that is when horsepower is king. On everything else it’s the rider. Great bike for the price. Still miss all the European bikes of the 70’s. Bultaco, Maico, CZ, Jawa, Penton, Puch, and Husky still lives. I raced Montesa 125 and CZ 400.
Love them Czs
Love that it's still a Carb, and Kickstart!
Yes I know I see these electric start 2 strokes efi dont do that .... stop
Why doesn’t Kawasaki just make 125’s again? I don’t understand
Fr, they were so good
EPA
why don't yamaha rework the banshee to meet emissions standards of today?
@@TheMegatron673 Aight...there's a whole other worldly problem to your question.
1. THE EMISSION PROBLEM: As we speak, the reality that 2 strokes exist in the market is a complete anomaly.
EU7 is slowly being implemented, and America's EPA just doesn't allow for 2 stroke manufacturing in motorcycles unless they pay off the so called smog tax. In the next coming years, 2 strokes let alone 4 strokes won't be an option.
3. THE TUNER PROBLEM: Almost all 2 Strokes that are being manufactured above 250cc have EFI equipped through port, or direct injection. The reason the Banshee was popular was due to their simplicity. By compromising to emission standards, you might end up with a refined 2 stroke that runs pretty good and is pretty efficient...but completely ruins the opportunity for the buyer to work/tune his rig at home, and leaves even fewer options for aftermarket. No more Cheetah Jugs like the old days.
4. NO MONEY TO BE MADE: The Banshee while being one of the Top 3 best sport quads ever created, and one of Yamaha's best sellers in the past...would not do good in todays market. The Banshee was a product of it's time, because the Sport quad market was killed off by the 4x4 ATV's, then were finished off by UTV's or Side by Sides which is what everybody wants these days. Yamaha is the last manufacture of the Sport Quad, and they're losing money keeping them on their roster. Heck, the Raptor 700 outsells the YFZ450. Besides, the sport quad has become a specialized item that only a certain group buys. To better put it into perspective, the Banshee wouldn't be considered apart of the "Sport Quad" market, but the "2 Stroke Sport Quad Market"
We can only hope
I just bought this bike. I see the washers to raise the handlebars are supposed to go above, not below. At 6'6", it's a wee bit small. I got bar risers on the way and will lower footpegs later. I went in for a 140F, came out with this fun ripper! It's basically a 125!
You ride a 112 and your 6’6? 😳
@@ScaryRevenant I heard to improve your riding you should step down a size. I'm sure I look goofy, but it gets my workout done. My 01 yamaha 426F needs head work...
bro please get a bigger bike 😂😂😂
It's like riding a BMX 😊
I can’t wait to try it I’ve had every bike you can imagine I’d still take all my kx100 first
Up here in the North East, big wheels are in Super Mini only, but 85's can race the Supermini's, my 12 year old races them on his 2022 KX85, and just took 4th oveall this weekend out of 21 kids in the Supermini class, the 2022 KX112 won it again, and will win the Championship here probably.
Damn, I wish I was a kid again. I had the most fun riding the old kx100 over any bike I ever rode afterwards. Kawasaki is a legend for continuing to develop these small 2 strokes.
Because this motor was stroke to a 112 that means that there's room to bore work with the Athena 112 top end on it and you get a 124 CC 2-stroke
The KX100 was my first Dirt Bike, i started riding at 14 and grew (a little lol) but the complaints they claimed i could relate cockpit is so damn cramped, you have to give a lot of throttle its scary when it was your first time especially on a stroke.
took me a good few rides on trails and on track kinda to get good. its the most fun you can have though especially catching people on bigger 4 strokes.
but its time to give that bike a rest, 2 years ago i tried a yz125 and felt comfy with bigger cockpit and responsive throttle. that was the last time i rode until i went to glamis to once again fire up the 100.
next bike is tough to choose...
a 350 4 stroke or 300 2 stroke..
Why do these little Kawi’s have that style pipe reminds me of the late 70s early 80s bikes and how much does KTM pay this channel holy shit.
We own both, KX112 and 2021 KTM 85 (17/14) and the differences are huge, as a parent i was trying the cheaper route out by purchasing the KX112 for his next level of racing but after upgrading the Handlebars/clamps, foot-pegs, front/rear springs and even rear sprocket (gearing) my son still gravitates to his KTM, endless discussions about how better it feels (body positioning) and horsepower, last weekend at our local race event he placed 8th on the KTM and 27th on the Kawi, cam off the track upset about the bike and therefore it for sale in our local Kijiji ad here in Canada where we live, i understand the comments about how some people say "the kids seem spoiled" as i grew up sharing a 1979 Yamaha GT 80cc, but its true KTM, Husky & Gas Gas have us by the balls, the frame on our 112 looks to be welded by a kid, disc brakes, rear swingarm and a few other parts are lacking, these kid test riders couldn't be More right with their testing reviews.
I’ve raced all 85’s and it is safe to say that KTM takes the cake. The ultimate race bike for a kid. Even when bought “stock” from the dealership it comes loaded with better parts. I have pulled more hole shots on the ktm 85 than I did with all other 85’s combined
Sweet little bike. I would buy one
want to see this with a big bore kit.
This guy has too many complaints about the bike a few adjustments in the bike is good remember it's not always the bike it's the rider.
Why im not addicted to UA-cam you too
imma get one soon🙏🏾💯
please do a 85cc shoot out
Got our son a 2022 KX85 and man does he love it, its his first year and coming from a KX65 to KX85 this season, i had him a 2005 KX85 but he wanted a new bike, and because i was actually able to save money from 2016-2020 we could buy him it for Christmas, unlike the Biden Economy!!! but anyways the 2022 is def bigger than the 2005 KX85 we have, but the shifting is so smooth, the cluth is so smooth, a few of his friends ride KTM SX85's and always come over and pull his clutch lever, and say OMGOSH i wish my KTM clutch was this nice, i guess i gotta grab their clutch one day to see what their talking about...Team Green...Always!
Do a video on an older cr85
Yeah nice Kawasaki KX 112 guys thanks awesome 👍❤️
Heart is melting😭
dear mxa, if you guys could make a supermini lineup shootout it would be very interesting. all the big wheel 85 with 150r and kx 112 all side by side. for all the short adult out here.
MX is fun. Having to have all the best stuff and competing so, so seriously can kill the fun.
I want one!! Sweet.
How come I had to come here to find this out? hehe! Rad rig!!!! .................hope it isn't faster than my 04' KX125
Kx 100 my first bike loved that bike i rode the hell out of that thing
Hi, i’m an adult 5’9 weigh about 150 pounds. I want a bike that I can easily manhandle and bail from if I need to. Don’t wanna bike that I have to really reach to get on and off of. Want to be able to go around trees and landscapes without any problem of a heavy big bike? My question is though, will this kind of bike have enough power to get me up a nice steep hill if I ever want to do any mountain climbing. Thanx
im 5'5 and when i get that ill be maybe 5'6-5'7. Is kx112 good?
you would fit great on a 112 👍
I've beaten a lot of guys riding an old piece of junk compared to their new 450s it's not the bike it's the rider.
Clean day
After you get past the first 9 minutes of " it's not a ktm" they actually talked about the kawi.
Seems every introduction, rest and review at MXA, not matter what bike, Is 3/4's " ITS NOT A KTM" and 1/4 about the actual bike they're focused on at the moment.
Whats the point of having the shoot outs? If you listen to the introduction, test and review of what ever the focus bike is.. They're already telling you the out come of the shoot out. Wasted pages, ink and time if you ask us.
All bike reviews are specifically for racers, wich is fine I get it...what we don't like is the "if you're not a pro, your bike sucks" narritive.
I watch my son on his 2022 KX85 and his 2 friends on their KX112's eat KTM's every weekend, there is 2 kids that do win sometimes with KTM's, but i see them broke down more often, and way more than any Kawiasaki out there thats for sure!
This is basically a video about how good the KTM mini is and how bad the new KX112 is in comparison to KTM. As in every other video MXA does, they only praise KTM products don't waste your time if your looking for an honest review of the KX112
Sounds like your mad that ktm makes a better product because half the time these bikes test just suck off Yamaha even though they don’t actually make more bottem end
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Easy now MXA is king!
Can’t handle the truth
Bro your Crazy! we have a 2022 KX85 and eat KTM's/ Husq/ GasGas/ every weekend, and the kids on the New KX112's are winning all the Super Mini's!
say nothing about how you can just keep racing the KX's race after race, when the Autrian Bikes seem way mor high maintenence! Pain and simple....
Sounds like the test riders r spoiled ktm kids an a Kawasaki isn’t good enough, kids follow one another now days!
Makes more sense to buy a 125 if your just fun riding and not racing.
Europe don’t have super mean class. Only 85 or 125
Your test riders are very picky not to be known professionals
I love how they are putting some effort into developing a 2 stroke (albeit a junior bike). The world is not doomed yet 😆
People its the same frame and suspension since late 90s. This is a "revised" 100 engine meaning same dang thing just updated. Suspension is 2000 tech and engine is 90s tech. Its not snobbery liking ktm over this for racing because the ktm is LIGHTYEARS ahead of the jap minis in EVERY way. Dont be mad because the Japanese brands rebadge same crap and ask more money while ktm actually makes REAL changes to their line up in regular intervals. For play riding any bike is good. For racing you literally are at a huge disadvantage choosing anything but ktm in the mini classes
Race Austrian or go home!
So true
@@Davido50 Race Austrian, and you will be going home early from a broken bike you mean?
So a ktm 105 is actually FASTER than a KX 112 ??
Yes but it also has a lot to do with the compression of the engine, the gearing the rider is using, the suspension geometry, and the track conditions. But you also need to remember that the ktm after markup and tax is around 2500 more than the kawasaki on average and has much more rigorous maintenance scheduling. KTM has a pedigree of being the absolute best in terms of raw performance if rider skill is not taken into account, but that performance comes at a cost of faster wear on the motor due to tighter tolerances. ALSO something else to keep in mind too that I didn't hear them mention in the video is that KTM in the LONG RUN will cost MORE to maintain, not ONLY because of the faster maintenance intervals, but because of that KTM tax where the same piston for the 112 is about 20% cheaper. It really just depends on your use case and how seriously you take yourself/your kid, if you want the kid to have a vehicle that performs like an INDY car, the top of the line best you can get, you need to understand it will have the same level and detail of care required where as the Kawasaki is the every-day race bike that you don't feel bad about crashing or beating on.
Cool intro!Cool Bike!
I had a kx 100 and it was a man I know this 112 is
Wow . That’s a really negative review. Ktm must be your big. Sponsor. You’re favouring them and they don’t even have a bike in that class . As a parent I don’t want to buy a bike and tear it apart to build the motor to compete .
You compare everything to the Austrian bikes, when they are the most problematic Bikes out there period......
Yet also the most reliable
@@jordanndelange7598 If you talking about the Austrian bikes, ive never owned one, and would not buy one of the smaller kids bikes, 65/85/Supermini, i watch them every weekend go down one after another due to something failing, wether a powervalve problem, or fouling plug after plug! Bikes are bikes and things always break, but man the KTM's kids bikes are down more than any others that i see.
Yes I agree with ktm kids bikes being down, I personally own a 2022 Husqvarna tc 125 with 35 hours and I haven't had 1 days problem with it . I also had a 2019 Husqvarna 85 with 55 hours and didn't have any problems with it while riding. My dad has a Husqvarna Fe 350 (2020) and both my uncles have 2020 Te 300 i's. What I am trying to say is we service our bikes on tiem and look after them and we don't have any problems.
@@jordanndelange7598 Maintenence is key, but with our Kawasaki smaller bikes, they are pretty bullet proof, my sons
(2009 "REAL" Monster Edition KX65) we bought it with 14 hours on it in 2020, it sat from 2011 until 2020, He immediately raced it and got it to 104 Hours, all stock never changing anything but 1 spark plug, and it didnt need to be changed, just wanted a new one in it, then we did a complete rebuild at 104 hours, and now its at 186 hours, and still going strong,
Team Green!
Good stuff man👍😁
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