Instant Analysis - Jarmo Kekäläinen Fired By Blue Jackets w/ Steve Dangle
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Steve Dangle discusses the Columbus Blue Jackets decision to fire General Manager Jarmo Kekäläinen. Was this the right decision? Was it the right time to make the move? How did he perform during his tenure in Columbus? Find out all that and more here!
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Man this is of those years that CBJ fans just sorta need to redact from their brains. Don't feel bad, after erasing all my bad leafs memories, now I can only count to potato...
As a CBJ fan from year 1, I have a couple of points to make.... first, the management team from before Jarmo was at best a dumpster fire. Second, how do those numbers on contracts compare across other GMs in the league over the past 11 seasons? Third, five playoff seasons in 11 years sounds bad (well its not good) but the 10 seasons before 1 playoff appearance (swept by Red Wings round 1). Fourth 8 of 11 seasons the team averaged a point a game or better, first 10 years, once. So while Jarmo did not have success with the CBJ compared to the rest of the NHL, he did have success with the team from where they were when he arrived.
On Davidson: remember he blamed Babcock for everything last summer and I wrote then : "Season is toast." he just sacrificed Jarmo to try to save his own job....
@michaelhoward3534 I agree with you, well sayed. Also would like to add to those who give critic, that Jarmo also leaves very promising team for his successor. With better coach and couple more years for they draft picks and CBJ can be back in the playoffs. He leaves better team, what he had when he arrived to CBJ. I think its also good to remember that it did take 11 year for Poile (NSH) to win first round serie and 18 year for going to Stanley Cup finals. Many GM's who has bring Cup to team havent been able to keep they job over 10 year. So i believe Jarmo did a lot good and earned a lot respect and thats why he was GM of Columbus so long time.
I live in Columbus. I'm friends with former players. The fans are getting tired of losing. Last season, it was a sell out almost every night. This season, not even close. They have to give tickets away just to get people into the games. Is Columbus a hockey town? Heck ya. But when you go to games, there are more fans of the visiting teams. If they could put together a winning culture, that would change.
Steve I really miss you covering more than just the Leafs. This was a good one. Thank you!
I live in Columbus as well - in 2019 my wife and I went to 8 home games and were considering season tickets. This season we've been to one game so far; probably 3 by the end of the year. It's just so hard to be excited for a game when we're losing constantly and just feel like the organization does not care year after year.
Lightning game was full of CBJ fans and arena was full. The support is there. I live in Huntington WV and made the drive.
Stop ignoring that the Jackets were 3rd in the Metro but 4TH IN THE LEAGUE in '16-'17. This in no way erases 11 years that are overall mediocre, but it does help paint the picture of what they faced for a chunk of those years.
Jarmo losing his job as GM for CBJ was the freest space for the 2024 BINGO card
About friggin time
All those non-contact injuries tell that team does not do a good job in the players' training and health care.
I would say Jarmo get's some leash on the lack of success because they've had the pieces, but the pieces didn't stay (Bobrovsky, Panarin, Jones, Dubois when talking about the good one...). And they even have the pieces on ice NOW, except...
Goaltending. Jarmo wasn't able to fix that and bet on a wrong horse (not sure if Korpi would have been worlds better, but Merz sure wasn't the right pick).
Another one where he (and I'd bet Davidson had a big say here recently) has been coaching. Vincent was a decent pick on a pinch, but Larsen was a long shot and Babcock was... something.
I know they need someone to handle the tradeline, but this screams the same lack of plan that has been seen for the last couple of years; have someone ready to take charge before you sack the previous one!!! Davidson for sure should have been released at the same time. Would have spared the door hinges a bit too. Now they sacked the guy who at least made good trades (value wise, fit is up to debate) right when your biggest chance to make changes with good value is on the door!
I love to say we have been rebuilding for 23 years
In fairness, John Davidson is only the interim GM, and is actively looking for a replacement outside the organization.
He's also part of the problem though? He's the one that hired Jarmo Kekäläinen to begin with! (Yes, he went away for some years and came back but still)
@@samarchepas yes 100% but you need someone to run the trade deadline. Jarmo’s first five years were pretty successful. It’s the second crack he got at building the team that really didn’t pan out.
One of the biggest gripes that we CBJ fans have is that over JK's tenure it seems that every year they are one of the youngest teams in the league. Why? Why is that? Perpetually one of the youngest teams in the league. How does that happen? Please hire someone that knows what the hell they are doing. The fans deserve that.
Which wouldn't have been a problem had they truly decided to go through a thorough rebuild like it seemed they were going to until last summer when they decided they could rush things out like mad dogs suddenly chasing a meat truck with their chains still on.
In that same span, the Leafs have spent $1,287,400,000 and have won one playoff series as well; not counting the time Columbus knocked them out in the "preliminary" round. Are the Leafs more exciting to watch? Yes. Does Columbus have a cannon? Yes! Could either of those teams spent their money wiser? Absolutely.
He literally made the point saying he knows about the Leafs. Do you know how many GMs they have gone through?? By my count atleast 5 which was the point. 1 person screwed up as much as all of those other guys and it took him this long to get fired.
This video is about the CBJ. What do the leafs have to do with this? You could make a similar argument for most of the teams in the NHL
Always about the leafs
This has nothing to do with any other team but Columbus.
@@johnsummerhill8323 it's a video made by a professional Leaf fan. It's only natural when a fan of another team says something not great about your team that you then respond. This person just simply didn't listen to Steve and got butt hurt that both teams have been bad. Just 1 had 1 GM fail while the other had like 6.
This boils down to ownership, as with every professional sports organization. The patience they had shown with the cancerous culture Jarmo & Davidson created leads one to believe that they are comfortable just taking the level of annual profits they take from it, and that's it. There is a very long laundry list of fundamental issues the organization has that I could list here, but what is centric to it all is an ownership group that needs to be more committed on multiple levels. Until that changes fundamentally, the situation will remain the same.
I think the Athletic nailed it with their explanation of why this firing happened now.
"Davidson was out of commission for most of this season due to health complications, including a difficult back surgery. It was only recently that he felt well enough to rejoin the day-to-day hockey operations of the club"
I've always felt like CBJ always looked nice, like next season is going to be the one. They just need to get that one missing piece or two to support the team and they'd be scary.... and then the big name they relied on leaves the town to sign in a big hockey market and CBJ is back at the drawing board.
Now only if the Toronto Maple Leafs had the foresight to fire Shanahan.
I think the ‘why now’ is intriguing.
It’s not like they have a plethora of UFAs that need to be traded and JK wasn’t moving pieces.
I wonder if it has to do with a difference in philosophy. Such as JK wanting to run it back and Davidson wanting to tear it down and ship out RFAs as well as Roslovic? I guess this deadline will tell.
Any GM with 11 year tenure would want to run it back. You don't get to rebuild and come out the other side as a 14 year GM.
“Money arson.” 100% truth.
Very long overdue as a jackets fan
How long till the AGM in Carolina moves a few hours north? Tulski feels exactly like who was described at the end and he's in rumors for every job 🤷♂️
I'd be happy to give them Shanahan... :|
Stupid comment.
200 iq Babcock get a job guaranteed pay. Do something controversial immediately. Have to “step away” but still get paid.
I can't believe they stuck with him this long. I feel so bad for Columbus fans. On a slightly nit-picky note, I urge you to fix one grammatical issue that you (and most sports commentators) are guilty of. It's "number" of trades, not "amount." Anything you can count is "number." It's "number of beers" but "amount of beer." Thanks for listening.
Watch either Chuck Fletcher or Ken Holland get hired in the off-season and watch this incredible opportunity go to waste. But seriously Bergevin should be considered there at this point. I've also heard them talk about poaching either Mathieu Darche from Tampa or Gorton from Montreal (please no!) but at this point I'm doubtful.
You talk incredibly loud and fast yet say very little. Boggles the mind.
Are team is terrible we can't get the puck out of our D-zone can't consistently make or receive a pass. we look like a bunch of 6-year-old beer Leagers. This all lies at the feet of our ownership. they don't understand the game or how to hire great managers. they have bought the loyalty of professional boot lickers and ass kissers John and Jarmo. it's so frustrating being a jackets fan the amount of disappointment and jealousy is crazy win you watch the way other teams operate. We have a bunch of great young players. we could be a competitive team in a few years. they need to clean out the front office and get this right. we the 5th line are tired.
you're right Steve, it's not as if Jarmo decided to leave the club after sweeping Tampa citing family reasons only to take a job in a similar position with a rival team... that is way too far fetched of a scenario for any organization .... Also what he's failing to mention was the metro division being a very competitive division, for a few years, no team from the Atlantic made both wild card spots, that's how bad it was .
Blue jackets fan be like...
Thank god we have the crew!
knew you couldn't go 2 mins without bringing up Babcock... you are such a joke !!
Why you crying?
If this was a regular job, babcocks resume wouldnt even be considered with his history.
Fantilli will be a 50 to 60 point player in the next 2 years. The team has pieces but disorganized
Matt Tkachuk or Clayton Keller would have been a stud on the jackets.
This was necessary and, yes, overdue.
For a team with as little success as ours, it's shocking how much loyalty we've had to executives and coaching staff who haven't ever really done a good job.
As a Jackets fan, part of the willingness to accept mediocrity is the fanbase's blind loyalty to bad teams. Ohio's pro sports teams have been notoriously bad over the years as a whole (the 2016 Cavs are the exception to the rule) and the fans here will just blindly support them. JP McConnell knows this and will just continue to rake in his billions while a terrible product is on the ice and the fans pack the barn anyway. It's part of the culture in this state. These are the same people that support the Cleveland Browns, after all.
Bashing on Columbus is just Hockey's version of Cleveland jokes, tbh
There is some truth to your point but the Crew have won 3 championships in the same city during the Jackets lifetime, it can be done. They got new owners who are driven and put the right people in place and bang won 2 championships in 3 years. It starts at the top
I can't believe Pascal Vincent still has a job!
Davidson should have been fired too!
This years was a not great time. Thanks for the news update bud.
Someone buy the team and move them to Quebec.
he did the best he could with not much. 2 playoff series wins, 1 which was pretty funny which led to tampa learning a lesson...and the other against a team which is low IQ and seemingly incapable of learning.
Why now? Why not 2 years ago?
So no Boone Jenner to the Leafs? Lol
The Senators shot lmao
Who’s Kent Johnston
Leafs next GM 😅
About time!
Finally. But why on earth now? This franchise is in shambles.
Way overdue firing, and keeping Davidson proves the Blue Jackets ownership is still way out of touch. They should have cleaned out both of them months, if not years ago.
Can we revoke Johnny Gaudreau's nickname now? It doesn't seem fair he's called Johnny Hockey anymore.
Was afraid you were going to show that Kekalainen/Babcock interview again. Don't understand how JK survived that?
FINALLY
I’m hoping for Mike Gillis as President of Hockey Operations and Eric Tlusky as GM. 🤞
First order of business: trade Laine to the Jets for Alex Iafallo and Rasmus Kupari. OK, maybe not, but it would be funny.
I don't understand the money spent argument. That's true of every single team that isn't consistently successful, especially since there's a cap floor. There have only been a handful of teams that have won the cup in the past 20-30 years. So the rest of the league is setting their money on fire? The Jackets are bad enough without having to invent arguments to make them seem worse.
And feel free to continue to downplay the qualifying round win over the Leafs by refusing to call it the playoffs. It reinforces how petty fans can be.
Thought it was odd Davidson said Jarmo “ will always be a blue jacket “ when he’s doing a presser about his firing.
Hired Babcock
Signed Gaudreau to an immovable contract
Got a bag of pucks for the Laine trade
And..I can’t say the on-ice performance is anything that resembles good either
Pretty sure Davidson is still here because if he was fired ownership would have to find new people themselves and they want nothing to do with the team 🙃 honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he’s fired AFTER he gets a new gm
Kekalainen is terrible to choose coaches. Bad choice, poor choice worts choice, another poor choice,... his latest choices to coach.
Thank goodness. This GM should have been fired years ago.
What took so long. Should have been fired at the same time as Babcock
1967
Rent freeeeeeeeee. Forever and always
Rent free much?
There isn’t a worse thing than being stuck in the middle. First big mistake was that they didn’t tank when Keks took over. First rounders and all misses.
It does make me wonder a little what trades he was in the middle of negotiating that they decide NOW of all times is the right time to let him go, instead of before the season started with Babcock or anytime before the All Star break when the team was just bad. It was time for him to go, but for this season at least it was either past time or too early, so they of ccourse picked the most awkward in-between time.
Too bad Dumais got drafted by that shitty organization
This should’ve happened years ago, like he shouldn’t even been able to give babs another job haha
Wow and why? I want to watch thiz but at work and residents are on there way to the gym...lol
And its snowing in February. Shocking.
So that’s two GMs fired this year, I wonder what year the most GM were fired in a season was?
Next to year we will be decent hopefully
Hey at least the best trade was trading for panarin
Thanks for the video and cool that you shot it from a different spot in the room
Who needs Steve opinion on this?
It's the trade deadline?
This has certainly been a season for the Blue Jackets. How do fans of this team not go insane?
Trust me we do
JD should go too.
Nailed it!!!!!
Does this make it easier for the leafs to make a trade for Booner ?
Don't want him.
They made it seem like he was just being celebrated
At least the CBJ are smart enough to fire someone if they suck this season. Leafs paid Keefe a mega extension and are keeping him after failure seasons over and over.
You have no idea what failure is.
@@johnsummerhill8323 Sure I do. Losing to Ducharme for one is a mega failure.
@@CoolsBreeze Making the playoffs is no failure, regardless of how far a team goes. Not making the playoffs is a failure.Something the Leafs have not done in a lot of years.
@@johnsummerhill8323Losing to Ducharme is a failure, no matter how you look at it or try to justify it.
That’s almost a Leafy thing!
I mean.... Columbus did have same track record in playoffs under Kekäläinen as leafs
Is it?
@@red3here both won one series
If Columbus wasn't such a shithole to live in they'd have an awesome hockey team right now
Steve is an alien from a distant planet.
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Getting criticized for losing in the 1st round by a Leafs fan?? Thats fkin rich. Who did we beat in the 1st round in 2020??? Hmm its eluding me right now....can somebody plz help me out???
I’ve been a CBJ fan my entire life. Even I didn’t know Jarmo signed $1b in contract value. Just a waste of a decade.
Their record sounds like Toronto Maple Leafs...
No.
Its so frustrating that we could have such an amazing hockey market in columbus if we could just break out of mediocrity... Fire FO, coachs, rebrand.... something PLEASE! Something has to work!
Keep Vincent, he’s a good coach who just got thrown into an impossible situation. Needs useful players to do stuff, not just a bunch of randoms thrown together
Is CBJ going to become the next Arizona Coyotes? Columbus needs a hockey team but this organization is a joke, everything they do is wrong. They'll be moved somewhere else and get a brand new franchise that's run properly.
Thing is you can't move them out of the state without trying to sell the team to someone who will keep them in Ohio
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