I just bought this at Best Buy and this video is thorough and well detailed. Excellent video. Thank you. And now I'm returning it because I can't receive more than 3 fm stations. NEW EDIT: I incorrectly referenced this Denon has an FM problem but I was referencing the Marantz 1200 - NOT the Denon.
Todays built in FM tuners are sadly pretty terrible. There are still sperate stand alone tuners available that are great but they are not cheap. I put a good tv/fm antenna in our attic for FM as well as over the air tv broadcasts and the results are great.
I use my Wiim for fm radio listening nowadays. I get all my local stations and fm stations from around the globe through wifi. No more fuzz. They come through crystal clear. The only negative is having to use the app to change stations. I don't have it connected to a smart tv but a person should be able to download the app to a tv and using the hdmi on this receiver, control everything with the TV remote.
I have this running a pair of klipsch kg4 and klipsch 12" sub in zone one and a set of kg3 with a polk 10" sub in zone two. This thing rocks my whole household. Sounds awesome with plenty of power. The heos is awesome too. Dont listen to anyone talking bad aboit this amp. Its great.
Thank you for your review, it is very complete and detailed, actually everything that I wanted to know and even more. It is a very good idea on paper, for us who need HDMI inputs and new formats decoding, but don't want to spend money on additional channels we won't use. This 2Ch AVR seems solid, but it is probably not the best implementation I was hoping for. I think I am going to be looking at the Marantz Cinema 70s which also has pre-outs, I just need 2 channels so I don't want to waste too much on amplification I don't need.
I agree 100% with your review, the 100 Watts claim is a blatant lie. I would say for a close listening position 3-4 metres is ok, the power is enough. For movies I had to increase the output of that source, it lacks power. The new emotiva BasX A2 and the cambridge audio CXN V2 could be a good combo replacement for the Denon without braking the bank. Truth being said, for the money it accomplishes quite a lot. Nice review and very thorough, congratulations.
I just recently sold mine after 2 years of disappointment . If you take away the bells and whistles this amplifier is incredibly weak and bad sounding . I ended up scoring an 1985 Yamaha R9 at a thrift store that quite simply blows this DENON away that I paid $10 for which is crazy as these regularly sell for $300-$400. I hardly stream or use Bluetooth so it was a very easy decision to EBAY my DENON before its outdated and worth $75 in 2 years from now . All you need is a Bluetooth adapter to turn any vintage receiver into a streaming device that will do everything this POS DENON does with much better sound quality . I literally had to crank this DENON up to about 50% to move my Klipsch RP600m's that I was running at the time while my 1985 Yamaha sounds great at just 5 - 10% gain for my Klipsch as well as my A/D/S L810's . The sound quality of this Denon sucks as well . My parents had a cheap SONY stack entertainment center from the 90's that performed better than this DENON .
Read the 7th post at the top of the page and you'll read what my frustration has been.. Only good thing so far is that I did open it up earlier this evening and there is a burned out fuzz that I can easily replace, But still, Why did it burn out after only a year and a half?.. I've done nothing to abuse this thing so why did the fuzz blow, That is now my question.@@louisdrums
EXCELLENT review, I was about to pull the trigger using this stereo receiver as a nice preamp and hooking it up to a more powerful Emotiva amplifier,but knowing that I´m not able to used the bass and treble knobs is completely ridiculous... what were Denon engineers thinking?😐😐😐
hello, is this a good purchase, the budget is 600-700 eur.. I don't use a home theater, only stereo speakers and wattage, there is a subwoofer connection, I liked it
Thank you for the detailed explanation. For music only would you recommend this receiver or the Marantz SR1200 to power 2 LS50s? Marantz is more expensive but apparently has 75w vs the 100w on the denon.
either, the Marantz is same power and they the same company, wouldn't be surprised if the guts are the same. However, i have not tested the Marantz so this is just informal advice.
I just got mine and boy, the stage of this amp is damn good. I plugged in a pair of elac debut 6.2 and using Deezer HIFI. One thing I simply do not understand is how Amazon HD with flac 24bit (what they say) the sound is so mundane without detail. At least in this device deezer sounds better to me. Also, I read the amp do not have power, well I differ, however remember the higer the impedance the lower the output, at 6 ohms is 120w per channel, and sounds extremely well so don't buy that shit.
Great video! I am thinking about getting this AV receiver for my Genelec studio monitors so I can connect my old school Pioneer KRP-500M monitor (does not have ARC), XSX, PS5 and Apple TV 4K. Does losing the ability to change the bass and treble still apply to powered speakers using Zone 2? Any other shortcomings with those pre-outs? Also I have just got hold of Bluesound Node (N130). Does the steaming work just as well with Tidal in Hi-Res with this receiver? Its either this or one of the older Pioneers AV receivers!
Great Review. I purchased this model yesterday and are running a pair of Tannoy Monitor Gold 12 drivers with new crossovers and the sound is great. I do have one question. When I use either the set up menu on the TV or say use spotify that appears on the tv the background has flashing speckles all over it. is this intentional or is this some sort on interference? The picture quality if fine when using SAT/CAB or firestick Thanks in advance
Hi, I’d like to ask a Question re: this Amplifier. In the video around 19:02 You show on screen how the subwoofer can be Selected On or Off, Also it says Low pass Filter Is that the Frequency of the Subwoofer ? Can it be Altered to a Lower frequency? The Manual states nothing about this. It just Says the subwoofer volume can be Increased or decreased 12db Thanks in advance I am interested in buying this Soon . I like the Marantz 7000n but it is almost double the price .
It's 215mm in height incl. antennas. I've been looking into this myself as I am considering purchasing one but wanted to ensure it fits in my TV cabinet.
When you show you can have different volume levels at each channel, the legend "via an additional amp" shows up. Can you o can't you play music at different volumes at each zone with this only Denon amp?
Puedes ayudarme? Lo tenemos para música en u lobby, pero se escucha en el lobby muy bajito y en uno de los salones (donde se encuentra el dispositivo) se escucha muy fuerte. Solo necesito que se reproduzca la música en el lobby, pero no sé como hacerle para eso.
Hi there I'm in New Zealand. My setup is x2 Polk audio TSX440t tower speakers and x2 powered subwoofers. Will this unit power my speakers really well?, I like my rock music loud. Thanks in advance.
I bought this amp during the Covid Electronics shortage and slightly regret it. I have by no means a "high end system" . Klipsch RP-600m bookshelf speakers , 10 inch Klipsch Sub , Fluance RT-81 Turntable , Sony M555ES CD player. It sounds decent don't get me wrong but it's lacking something . I half to turn the Denon up to 40 to get any decent loudness out of it especially with vinyl . CD isn't as bad . The Denon seems to be lacking in midrange detail also with no way to adjust it . Also lacking in punch at lower volumes . I wanted a Yamaha but was on back order due to covid so I made a compulsive buy which I somewhat regret . Has a lot of bells and whistles as far as Bluetooth and wireless speaker options which is cool for a 2-channel but other than that it's nothing great.
@@Funkbutterfly Its a very good amp . Like my post says it doesn't throw much punch at low volumes , Have to crank it up at least 1/3 to get good volume . I would of rather waited and bought the Yamaha as I personally do not stream music nor need to run blue tooth speakers or really need any HDMI . I listen to CDs and Vinyl so all the extras that the Denon offers I'm not utilizing . So the price point of the Yamaha would of been dedicated to the sound quality and not all the gadgets that the Denon offers. But over all will it run the 600m ? Yes it will . I actually paired my 600m with some vintage 1970 wharefdales , together they sound perfect . The Wharefdales are very warm and the Klipsch is very bright so they blend perfect together.
I just recently sold mine after 2 years of disappointment . If you take away the bells and whistles this amplifier is incredibly weak and bad sounding . I ended up scoring an 1985 Yamaha R9 at a thrift store that quite simply blows this DENON away that I paid $10 for which is crazy as these regularly sell for $300-$400 in exc condition . I hardly stream or use Bluetooth so it was a very easy decision to EBAY my DENON before its outdated and worth $100 in 2 years from now . Don't give into the hype as this receiver sucks as far as power and sound quality , for $600 much better receiver's can be had . All you need is a Bluetooth adapter to turn any vintage receiver into a streaming device that will do everything this POS DENON does with much better sound . But if you need to drive smaller speakers or enjoy streaming it will do the job , if you have mid to large speakers don't bother as you will be disappointed . My Yamaha R9 drives and puts out more power at 10% than this DENON does at 60% running my A/D/S L810's or even my bookshelf Klipsch RP600m's for example .
On the back of the Receiver says 230W of power consumption... as this is a class AB amp, let´s say 60% efficient, you are probably right...55 to 60W per channel (maximum). There is no magic...
Toroidal have noise reduction and emit less EMI, but personally its not a deal breaker for me, the output stage is more important in my opinion. This is not an amplifier that is meant to compete with best audiophile amplifiers so its a way they can reduce the cost of the unit.
I purchase this unit a year and a half ago and thanks in part to the HEOS network system I have found it to be an over computerized and complicated pain in the arse. Not only to initially set up but every time I want to do something with it I would have to call Crutchfield and have one of their service people run me thru how to do things. In fact I still haven't figured out how to program Zone 2 ta play the same source as Zone 1 that I have a second more powerful amp fore. I have also noticed that I am not the only one to complain that the Blue tooth sound is a second behind versus lips moving while watching videos on whatever it is blue toothed with. A situation that is very annoying. And to top it off a neighbor across the hall from me hooked up her I phone to some spoty thing and all of a suddenly she's turning my Receiver on and off and changing it's channels with out even knowing it... Once again very annoying. If you are a long time audio file like me and simply want to listen to straight up stereo music do not get this or any reciever that has the computerized HEOS Network, It is more trouble than it is worth.. Now all that being said what really makes me hate this unit is that just last night it suddenly went out, That's right, I've had it a whole year and a half and it's gone out. I was listening to a music CD when it seemed to clip off and shut down like old amps use to do, That's when I noticed that it was hot, And I mean it was really Hot. I unplugged it and let it cool down for a few hours and when I plugged it back in the green light comes on but nothing works, I'm hoping that when I open it up and take a look it will simple be an easy access blown fuzz that i can replace myself. (one week latter) Well I found a blown fuse, Ordered and replaced it, And what happened next? Suddenly I see a little bit of that magical blue smoke escaping from somewhere. And yes, It was a correct replacement fuse This thing is now a $500.00 dollar piece of dumpster feed.. Looking forward to getting a Marantz NR1200 to replace it
i find my denon to be an absolute pain, bluetooth pairs but never connects, the app is super slow but much needed these days but makes me uninstall it because its hopelessly slow. my yamaha can do both fine bluetooth and wifi. my two old yamaha could as well and also way cheaper at over half the cost even pioneer is half the cost of denon, also my pioneer can do bluetooth fine too but just no wifi capabilities, that being said id like denon if they fixed bluetooth and wifi, wireless funtion is a must in 2021. ive seen the app reveiws for apple and android and i think its clear they dont care.
@@chronicconditions5855 Ah yes Yamaha! Back in the early 80s when I was in the Air Force I was stationed at Yakota Air Base Japan and I put together my very first kick arse stereo system that I brought back to the states. It was based on the old Yamaha C4 control amp and M4 power amp. (later replaced with the MX830 power amp) Loved it! Lasted me over 20 years too before a channel in the Control amp finally went out... Still got the power amp and it still works just fine some 30 years latter Ya just can't get good dependable straight forward stuff like that anymore.. It sucks
@@Spindrift-id1ez awesome! my first avr was a sony 5.1 with 2 extra mains in 1997, ive never had a 2 channel amp, my aunt needs one, not sure to go yamaha as i hear they are more musical and i think its true in owning avrs but may not not be true going with a denon stereo amp which offers hdmi which other brands struggle to do. yeah im heavy into pc, consoles, avr, tvs and to get them all playing nice together is insanely difficult, the more features and when having to wait for updates that dont come when u buy just makes it much worse. what i find between the brands ive experienced they all have exclusive features. pioneer has the dimmer button and tone controls on the remote, so good. yamaha app has been the fastest most responsive ive ever used. Denon you can turn hdmi control off and leave arc on, so good if u have people that dont want to use the sound system and oled use helps too. id like to try power amp but moore stuff, i need to dial back. i tried a soundbar to dial back on all the gear but i just laughed at the performance difference, sold it off quick smart.
@@chronicconditions5855 Now see I'm still kinda old school. Ya It is nice to have my Tv sound running to my stereo with a digital optical cable and I do have a nice Lenova laptop USB'd to my Tv so i can enjoy my Kpop videos on UA-cam in stereo . But that's it for me. I don't need all that 7.2 whatever total AVR network stuff. Hell I don't even want or own a smart phone. In fact I remember when that C4 control amp went out I drove around to all the old audio stores I use to go to and for the life of me I could not find a replacement 2 channel control amp, Everything was this 5.1 stuff. Finally I found a cheap Denon 2 channel receiver that just happened to have a dedicated pre-out on it that I used as a control amp for many years. That's why when I retired last year and decided to get back into serious audio but was limited in cost by my pension I figure the Denon DRA800 was a sure thing to build on. But nope, It is now dumpster feed and I'm looking forward to trying out the Marantz NR1200 I ordered. I would have liked to purchased something more high end but the days of eleven hundred dollar a piece Boston Acoustic speakers and fifteen hundred dollar Yamaha power amps is long over for me.. I just wish I could get it all in silver, I miss the days when stereo equipment was silver and volume control nobs actually did something. And I still say there is nothing like the sound of an 8 track TEAC reel to reel tape deck with DBX noise reduction... And don't even get me started on the Akai GXF95 cassette deck i had brought back from japan. When recording It automatically did everything for you but give ya a BJ *lol*
@@Spindrift-id1ez that blows about the denon, the nr1200 comes in silver but i spose all sold out. the nr1200 looks really nice feature packed like the denon, im just affraid the marantz will have the same wifi and bluetooth connectivity issues because denon and marantz are super similar under the same roof. marantz is just the high end of denon and more musical. if u decide the marantz pisses you off, you could try a yamaha R-N803D with old school look (in silver) but no hdmi ports, still has streaming and bluetooth dab+, that marantz slimline looks mad though!
towards the end of the video, but sound is so subjective. Its sounds decent. Clear, no problems. Not as good as my old NAD PE amp in terms of the sound stage. My Monitor Audio speakers sound better on my power Rotel. For my TV its excellent, plays well on my Bose 301 for a room size of 25 sq meters.
I just bought this at Best Buy and this video is thorough and well detailed. Excellent video. Thank you.
And now I'm returning it because I can't receive more than 3 fm stations.
NEW EDIT: I incorrectly referenced this Denon has an FM problem but I was referencing the Marantz 1200 - NOT the Denon.
Todays built in FM tuners are sadly pretty terrible. There are still sperate stand alone tuners available that are great but they are not cheap. I put a good tv/fm antenna in our attic for FM as well as over the air tv broadcasts and the results are great.
I use my Wiim for fm radio listening nowadays. I get all my local stations and fm stations from around the globe through wifi. No more fuzz. They come through crystal clear. The only negative is having to use the app to change stations.
I don't have it connected to a smart tv but a person should be able to download the app to a tv and using the hdmi on this receiver, control everything with the TV remote.
Best review on a receiver I have seen to date. Thanks for the time and effort put in.
thank you
Agreed 😊
What an excellent technical review, best i´ve seen for this unit
thanks
I have this running a pair of klipsch kg4 and klipsch 12" sub in zone one and a set of kg3 with a polk 10" sub in zone two. This thing rocks my whole household. Sounds awesome with plenty of power. The heos is awesome too. Dont listen to anyone talking bad aboit this amp. Its great.
Wished I had seen your video earlier. Some stuff I gave up , and now it is crystal clear.
Please Keep recording in 4k....This review is jaw dropping!!!
thank you
Thank you for your review, it is very complete and detailed, actually everything that I wanted to know and even more.
It is a very good idea on paper, for us who need HDMI inputs and new formats decoding, but don't want to spend money on additional channels we won't use. This 2Ch AVR seems solid, but it is probably not the best implementation I was hoping for. I think I am going to be looking at the Marantz Cinema 70s which also has pre-outs, I just need 2 channels so I don't want to waste too much on amplification I don't need.
I have one of this with my Paradigm Prestige 85F and Node 2i connected to Audio In. it sounds so good. For the price you cant complain.
Absolutely correct on the 100 watts means 50 watts. If you know the maths you can work it out. Very nicely presented.
Excellent video and excellent musical taste😁😁😁
I agree 100% with your review, the 100 Watts claim is a blatant lie. I would say for a close listening position 3-4 metres is ok, the power is enough.
For movies I had to increase the output of that source, it lacks power.
The new emotiva BasX A2 and the cambridge audio CXN V2 could be a good combo replacement for the Denon without braking the bank.
Truth being said, for the money it accomplishes quite a lot. Nice review and very thorough, congratulations.
thanks
I just recently sold mine after 2 years of disappointment . If you take away the bells and whistles this amplifier is incredibly weak and bad sounding . I ended up scoring an 1985 Yamaha R9 at a thrift store that quite simply blows this DENON away that I paid $10 for which is crazy as these regularly sell for $300-$400. I hardly stream or use Bluetooth so it was a very easy decision to EBAY my DENON before its outdated and worth $75 in 2 years from now .
All you need is a Bluetooth adapter to turn any vintage receiver into a streaming device that will do everything this POS DENON does with much better sound quality . I literally had to crank this DENON up to about 50% to move my Klipsch RP600m's that I was running at the time while my 1985 Yamaha sounds great at just 5 - 10% gain for my Klipsch as well as my A/D/S L810's . The sound quality of this Denon sucks as well . My parents had a cheap SONY stack entertainment center from the 90's that performed better than this DENON .
Thanks for detailed technical explanation video. Very helpful 😊. Now I won't open the manual. 🥳
Just received mine and this is helping massively. Much appreciated!
I hope that your experience with this unit is better than some of the rest of us that made the mistake of purchasing unit it.
@@Spindrift-id1ez what didn't you like about yours?
Read the 7th post at the top of the page and you'll read what my frustration has been.. Only good thing so far is that I did open it up earlier this evening and there is a burned out fuzz that I can easily replace, But still, Why did it burn out after only a year and a half?.. I've done nothing to abuse this thing so why did the fuzz blow, That is now my question.@@louisdrums
Very useful review. Planning to buy this exact unit and now know exactly what I'm getting...thanks.
EXCELLENT review, I was about to pull the trigger using this stereo receiver as a nice preamp and hooking it up to a more powerful Emotiva amplifier,but knowing that I´m not able to used the bass and treble knobs is completely ridiculous... what were Denon engineers thinking?😐😐😐
You mean you connected the Emotiva to pre out in zone 2 and you couldn't use the bass knob on the Denon?
hello, is this a good purchase, the budget is 600-700 eur.. I don't use a home theater, only stereo speakers and wattage, there is a subwoofer connection, I liked it
Fantastic in-depth review.
Wow, AMAZING review. Thank you!! Incredibly educational
Excellent tutorial / review! 👍🏾
Thank you! Can Zone 2 be bluetooth connected speakers?
Can you configure all settings, like the Sound Mode, without the remote controller?
Just bought 1 today,I hope I will like it
This was very informative. Great video!
Good day great review thank you I am considering buy this AV amp ad I only want stereo sound should I consider any other AV?
Thank you for the detailed explanation. For music only would you recommend this receiver or the Marantz SR1200 to power 2 LS50s? Marantz is more expensive but apparently has 75w vs the 100w on the denon.
either, the Marantz is same power and they the same company, wouldn't be surprised if the guts are the same. However, i have not tested the Marantz so this is just informal advice.
I just got mine and boy, the stage of this amp is damn good. I plugged in a pair of elac debut 6.2 and using Deezer HIFI. One thing I simply do not understand is how Amazon HD with flac 24bit (what they say) the sound is so mundane without detail. At least in this device deezer sounds better to me. Also, I read the amp do not have power, well I differ, however remember the higer the impedance the lower the output, at 6 ohms is 120w per channel, and sounds extremely well so don't buy that shit.
Thanks man! I just bought it and was feeling bad! Next week I will setup my equipment
getting my refurb from Denon directly in a few days $339.00 also connecting a pair of Elac debut 6.2 floor standing speakers too!! soooo excited
Great video! I am thinking about getting this AV receiver for my Genelec studio monitors so I can connect my old school Pioneer KRP-500M monitor (does not have ARC), XSX, PS5 and Apple TV 4K.
Does losing the ability to change the bass and treble still apply to powered speakers using Zone 2?
Any other shortcomings with those pre-outs?
Also I have just got hold of Bluesound Node (N130). Does the steaming work just as well with Tidal in Hi-Res with this receiver?
Its either this or one of the older Pioneers AV receivers!
Thanks for this video ,was very helpful.
I have a Denon AVR 1602. I luv it. Plenty of power 4me. Is this a basic bottom end model? 🤔
Great Review. I purchased this model yesterday and are running a pair of Tannoy Monitor Gold 12 drivers with new crossovers and the sound is great.
I do have one question. When I use either the set up menu on the TV or say use spotify that appears on the tv the background has flashing speckles all over it. is this intentional or is this some sort on interference? The picture quality if fine when using SAT/CAB or firestick
Thanks in advance
Great review, I find all I wanted to! Thank you!
Hi there, can I connect it to wifi and set it up without a tv, as I only want to use it to drive x2 tower and x2 subwoofers.
Which bookshelfspeaker can i use for this unit sir (matching)pls reply
Hi, I’d like to ask a Question re: this Amplifier.
In the video around 19:02
You show on screen how the subwoofer can be Selected On or Off,
Also it says Low pass Filter
Is that the Frequency of the Subwoofer ?
Can it be Altered to a Lower frequency?
The Manual states nothing about this.
It just Says the subwoofer volume can be Increased or decreased 12db
Thanks in advance I am interested in buying this Soon .
I like the Marantz 7000n but it is almost double the price .
How do you connect to WiFi without an hdmi cable?
Do you have such a detailed review for the ONKYO TX-8390 ? :)
Wow! Very good review i have to say.
Excellent review thanx! 1 practical question, what is the total height with the 2 antenas in the back? Thanx
It's 215mm in height incl. antennas. I've been looking into this myself as I am considering purchasing one but wanted to ensure it fits in my TV cabinet.
I have such a hard time connecting my TV to this; others have been fine. Hoping this wll help
Same problem here too.
When you show you can have different volume levels at each channel, the legend "via an additional amp" shows up. Can you o can't you play music at different volumes at each zone with this only Denon amp?
Great review. Thanks
Puedes ayudarme? Lo tenemos para música en u lobby, pero se escucha en el lobby muy bajito y en uno de los salones (donde se encuentra el dispositivo) se escucha muy fuerte.
Solo necesito que se reproduzca la música en el lobby, pero no sé como hacerle para eso.
Excellent video. Super useful
Will this unit allow me to play hi-res or the master option music from Tidal?
Would it be comfortable driving Wharfdale Evo 4.2
I'm using this amp with Airplay, however sometimes sound breaks. Do you think a wired connection would solve this?
If we use A+B option can we use 4 speakers?
yes
I like this avr for a small room but no internal eq.
How to I set it up just for stereo without a tv screen?
Hi there I'm in New Zealand. My setup is x2 Polk audio TSX440t tower speakers and x2 powered subwoofers. Will this unit power my speakers really well?, I like my rock music loud. Thanks in advance.
It's only 2.1 won't power both subwoofers.
@@negronera18 It's got x2 subwoofer outputs.
@@cheekydarky1 my bad
I found it to be a good tv sound system, but the sound quality fell short for music listening. Sold it after 18 months.
Can we use this preout to connect to an external amp??
I'm wondering the same thing
Is it advisable to use external DAC to connect our phone or laptop for batter sound quality on this dra 800 H
no, connect directly.
Can it use spade connectors?
Hello price this denon??
Great review
I bought this amp during the Covid Electronics shortage and slightly regret it.
I have by no means a "high end system" .
Klipsch RP-600m bookshelf speakers , 10 inch Klipsch Sub , Fluance RT-81 Turntable , Sony M555ES CD player.
It sounds decent don't get me wrong but it's lacking something . I half to turn the Denon up to 40 to get any decent loudness out of it especially with vinyl . CD isn't as bad .
The Denon seems to be lacking in midrange detail also with no way to adjust it . Also lacking in punch at lower volumes . I wanted a Yamaha but was on back order due to covid so I made a compulsive buy which I somewhat regret .
Has a lot of bells and whistles as far as Bluetooth and wireless speaker options which is cool for a 2-channel but other than that it's nothing great.
Thinking of pairing this with the 600ms as well. Any further thoughts a few months later?
@@Funkbutterfly Its a very good amp . Like my post says it doesn't throw much punch at low volumes , Have to crank it up at least 1/3 to get good volume .
I would of rather waited and bought the Yamaha as I personally do not stream music nor need to run blue tooth speakers or really need any HDMI . I listen to CDs and Vinyl so all the extras that the Denon offers I'm not utilizing . So the price point of the Yamaha would of been dedicated to the sound quality and not all the gadgets that the Denon offers.
But over all will it run the 600m ? Yes it will . I actually paired my 600m with some vintage 1970 wharefdales , together they sound perfect . The Wharefdales are very warm and the Klipsch is very bright so they blend perfect together.
@@manchesterexplorer8519 cool thank you!
@@manchesterexplorer8519 Здравствуйте! Как вы думаете, споется ли Denon dra 800h + wharfedale diamond 12.2?
I just recently sold mine after 2 years of disappointment . If you take away the bells and whistles this amplifier is incredibly weak and bad sounding . I ended up scoring an 1985 Yamaha R9 at a thrift store that quite simply blows this DENON away that I paid $10 for which is crazy as these regularly sell for $300-$400 in exc condition . I hardly stream or use Bluetooth so it was a very easy decision to EBAY my DENON before its outdated and worth $100 in 2 years from now .
Don't give into the hype as this receiver sucks as far as power and sound quality , for $600 much better receiver's can be had . All you need is a Bluetooth adapter to turn any vintage receiver into a streaming device that will do everything this POS DENON does with much better sound . But if you need to drive smaller speakers or enjoy streaming it will do the job , if you have mid to large speakers don't bother as you will be disappointed . My Yamaha R9 drives and puts out more power at 10% than this DENON does at 60% running my A/D/S L810's or even my bookshelf Klipsch RP600m's for example .
You helped me a lot! Great work
why a and b speakers if its only two channels ?
On the back of the Receiver says 230W of power consumption... as this is a class AB amp, let´s say 60% efficient, you are probably right...55 to 60W per channel (maximum). There is no magic...
Amps are labelled with their wall power consumption at 1/8 power on speaker outputs.
I agree pre amp tone control fail.
Would you please give me the usb firmware update link
I am very worry about that transformer. Is not a toroidal Transformer. Any opinions on that?
Toroidal have noise reduction and emit less EMI, but personally its not a deal breaker for me, the output stage is more important in my opinion. This is not an amplifier that is meant to compete with best audiophile amplifiers so its a way they can reduce the cost of the unit.
compare to yamaha Rn803?
My Chambel A donst work, a move conections to side b
Is there anyway I can connect an equaliser?
you can but then you will be using the unit as a just an audio processor to your next amp
I purchase this unit a year and a half ago and thanks in part to the HEOS network system I have found it to be an over computerized and complicated pain in the arse. Not only to initially set up but every time I want to do something with it I would have to call Crutchfield and have one of their service people run me thru how to do things. In fact I still haven't figured out how to program Zone 2 ta play the same source as Zone 1 that I have a second more powerful amp fore. I have also noticed that I am not the only one to complain that the Blue tooth sound is a second behind versus lips moving while watching videos on whatever it is blue toothed with. A situation that is very annoying. And to top it off a neighbor across the hall from me hooked up her I phone to some spoty thing and all of a suddenly she's turning my Receiver on and off and changing it's channels with out even knowing it... Once again very annoying.
If you are a long time audio file like me and simply want to listen to straight up stereo music do not get this or any reciever that has the computerized HEOS Network, It is more trouble than it is worth.. Now all that being said what really makes me hate this unit is that just last night it suddenly went out, That's right, I've had it a whole year and a half and it's gone out. I was listening to a music CD when it seemed to clip off and shut down like old amps use to do, That's when I noticed that it was hot, And I mean it was really Hot. I unplugged it and let it cool down for a few hours and when I plugged it back in the green light comes on but nothing works, I'm hoping that when I open it up and take a look it will simple be an easy access blown fuzz that i can replace myself.
(one week latter) Well I found a blown fuse, Ordered and replaced it, And what happened next? Suddenly I see a little bit of that magical blue smoke escaping from somewhere. And yes, It was a correct replacement fuse This thing is now a $500.00 dollar piece of dumpster feed.. Looking forward to getting a Marantz NR1200 to replace it
i find my denon to be an absolute pain, bluetooth pairs but never connects, the app is super slow but much needed these days but makes me uninstall it because its hopelessly slow.
my yamaha can do both fine bluetooth and wifi. my two old yamaha could as well and also way cheaper at over half the cost even pioneer is half the cost of denon, also my pioneer can do bluetooth fine too but just no wifi capabilities, that being said id like denon if they fixed bluetooth and wifi, wireless funtion is a must in 2021. ive seen the app reveiws for apple and android and i think its clear they dont care.
@@chronicconditions5855 Ah yes Yamaha! Back in the early 80s when I was in the Air Force I was stationed at Yakota Air Base Japan and I put together my very first kick arse stereo system that I brought back to the states. It was based on the old Yamaha C4 control amp and M4 power amp. (later replaced with the MX830 power amp) Loved it! Lasted me over 20 years too before a channel in the Control amp finally went out... Still got the power amp and it still works just fine some 30 years latter
Ya just can't get good dependable straight forward stuff like that anymore.. It sucks
@@Spindrift-id1ez awesome! my first avr was a sony 5.1 with 2 extra mains in 1997, ive never had a 2 channel amp, my aunt needs one, not sure to go yamaha as i hear they are more musical and i think its true in owning avrs but may not not be true going with a denon stereo amp which offers hdmi which other brands struggle to do. yeah im heavy into pc, consoles, avr, tvs and to get them all playing nice together is insanely difficult, the more features and when having to wait for updates that dont come when u buy just makes it much worse. what i find between the brands ive experienced they all have exclusive features. pioneer has the dimmer button and tone controls on the remote, so good. yamaha app has been the fastest most responsive ive ever used. Denon you can turn hdmi control off and leave arc on, so good if u have people that dont want to use the sound system and oled use helps too. id like to try power amp but moore stuff, i need to dial back. i tried a soundbar to dial back on all the gear but i just laughed at the performance difference, sold it off quick smart.
@@chronicconditions5855 Now see I'm still kinda old school. Ya It is nice to have my Tv sound running to my stereo with a digital optical cable and I do have a nice Lenova laptop USB'd to my Tv so i can enjoy my Kpop videos on UA-cam in stereo . But that's it for me. I don't need all that 7.2 whatever total AVR network stuff. Hell I don't even want or own a smart phone. In fact I remember when that C4 control amp went out I drove around to all the old audio stores I use to go to and for the life of me I could not find a replacement 2 channel control amp, Everything was this 5.1 stuff. Finally I found a cheap Denon 2 channel receiver that just happened to have a dedicated pre-out on it that I used as a control amp for many years. That's why when I retired last year and decided to get back into serious audio but was limited in cost by my pension I figure the Denon DRA800 was a sure thing to build on. But nope, It is now dumpster feed and I'm looking forward to trying out the Marantz NR1200 I ordered. I would have liked to purchased something more high end but the days of eleven hundred dollar a piece Boston Acoustic speakers and fifteen hundred dollar Yamaha power amps is long over for me..
I just wish I could get it all in silver, I miss the days when stereo equipment was silver and volume control nobs actually did something. And I still say there is nothing like the sound of an 8 track TEAC reel to reel tape deck with DBX noise reduction... And don't even get me started on the Akai GXF95 cassette deck i had brought back from japan. When recording It automatically did everything for you but give ya a BJ *lol*
@@Spindrift-id1ez that blows about the denon, the nr1200 comes in silver but i spose all sold out. the nr1200 looks really nice feature packed like the denon, im just affraid the marantz will have the same wifi and bluetooth connectivity issues because denon and marantz are super similar under the same roof. marantz is just the high end of denon and more musical. if u decide the marantz pisses you off, you could try a yamaha R-N803D with old school look (in silver) but no hdmi ports, still has streaming and bluetooth dab+, that marantz slimline looks mad though!
The view of the inside of 800H looks as same as Onkyo TX 8270, their spec. almost the same but 800H without MQA decode function !!
MQA is ASS!
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Hi, front face plate aluminum or plastic? Some says plastic others aluminum, just wanted to clarify. Thank you.
seems like an aluminum wrap. Defiantly looks like Aluminum, behind it is plastic though.
Max volume its 80 ?
you can set max volume
50 W I´am angry :)
dont shoot the messenger..
@@ecologicaltime the difference between 50 and 100 Watts is only 3 dB, barely noticeble.
This not review just development research...!
That long a review to barely discuss how it sounds? I'm disappointed.
towards the end of the video, but sound is so subjective. Its sounds decent. Clear, no problems. Not as good as my old NAD PE amp in terms of the sound stage. My Monitor Audio speakers sound better on my power Rotel. For my TV its excellent, plays well on my Bose 301 for a room size of 25 sq meters.