Just a note to any pants makers that might be watching this video. Please continue making pants with the 3 necessary holes in them, I do not wish to have to cut these out myself.
Judith L When I was younger, I didn't understand how series worked, and I read Harry Potter out of order! I remember reading The Chamber of Secrets first and being extremely confused. "There's so much they're not explaining to me.... :("
I hear that once read books 2 to 8 in a series before finally finding the first one. No surprises in what happened in the book by then mind you they had let slip enough references to what happened by then.
The worst betrayal that I have ever had as a reader is finding out that the book series I had just finished was actually a series within a series of series. As in, I had read a standalone series of books that took place in the middle of a larger series. There was no end to it! So I gave up.
rewatching for like the 10th time, and I was reminded of one of my biggest pet peeves when buying books: when they change the covers part way through the series. I JUST WANT MATCHING COVERS DANGIT.
Or changing the cover of the book to the a movie cover. I still dislike how "The Life of Pi"'s cover is from the movie and not the simple one that I've seen before and hoped to buy. Sigh.
kind of related but with audio books. It's irritating when the person reading the book gets changed between books, sometimes it's three different people for a single series!
I agree with everything you said, except our feelings on the deckled edges. I think they are so aesthetically pleasing. Deckled edges do cost more to manufacture because rather than just send the paper through to be blunt cut, it has to be shifted and pattern cut. It adds a few steps on the production line. I don't know why I am telling you that. I'm sure if you cared to know you already would. ha. I also dislike cover changes, and mismatched covers. If all of the other books in the series have foreboding landscapes, don't stick a man with a sword on a horse on book 4!
Mark Lewis For me, I like them because they look make the book look vintage. I'm also a fan of foil edged pages, and woven binding instead of just glue. So for me, its just a "pretty". There really isn't a purpose for them, nowadays other than that. If I remember my history correctly, all books were deckled back when books were first mass produced, it wasn't on purpose, just how the process was ended up. Eventually, deckled gave way to blunt cut, and the deckled edges became "collectible", an extravagance and a sign of wealth. I think thats right, anyway.
Mark Lewis Nope, they don't make those too much anymore. Not unless you want to get into the "collecting" side of things. I've been eyeballing The Count of Monte Cristo from Easton Press but holy crumbs. Thats a car payment. LOL
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I can't stand it when the authors name is bigger than the actually title of the book! To me, it makes me wonder if they designed the cover and was thinking," Oh I am so awesome I wrote a book AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW IT!"
That tends to be only when the author is very famous or well-liked. I had alway assumed it as the publishing company who was like "oh we had better make sure everyone knows who wrote this because then they'll be more likely to buy it because they like that person."
It's funny you say that. We had some of those at the library I worked at, and my coworkers and I literally thought that those were the books that were screwed up in production and they sold them to libraries for a discount. We couldn't think of any other reason why they would look so bad.
It's not that I like using them, but I recognize that they are a more traditional approach to book binding. Also, +1 for being Karen Kavett (are you the talented nerdfighter that John always says such nice things about?) Anyway, I have a feeling that Hank is going to get a bit of an education from the handmade book craft movement. Like drinking water from a fire hydrant...
I love deckled egde, 1) I never got paper cuts from them, 2) they feel different 3) it looks more medieval/scoll-like, it was one of the reason why I loved Lemony Snicket books
NOOO I LOVE THE ROUGH EDGES ON BOOKS LIKE THE TALE OF DESPEREAUX??? THE MICE LIKED TO CHEW ON BOOKS AND IT GIVES IT SUCH A HOMEY FEELING DONT TAKE AWAY MY DECKLE EDGES
The edging issue you're having is on books that both cost more and don't, in a sense. QUICK LESSON IN BOOKBINDING TIME! So as books are made in the older style, they are made by folding sheets of paper outside of themselves in groupings, then stitching them all together before stitching them to the front and back plate, then covering those plates with leather and cord. Very little has changed in this process, namely that we now use adhesives instead of stitching. Now, normally, one would take a drop blade to those edges to cut them off and make a nice flushed edge, but hipster book manufacturers leave it on to give the book a more "Old-timey" feel. You don't see this on paperback books for a very specific reason. Namely that paperback books aren't made this way. They are made by taking a stack of pages, and dipping the entire stack in an adhesive glue on one side, then slapping it into the cover "Sheet", folding it shut, pressing it hard as hell, then cutting off whatever excess remains if the rest didn't go according to plan. However, by the nature of how a hardback is manufactured, although not THAT different at their core, the possibility of the non-sheared edges remains. One of the reasons they don't cut those edges off is that getting around the hardback itself, which overlaps, can be a bit of a pain, but it's really not THAT hard, so it still makes no sense that it isn't done.
I DESPISE books that don't tell me what series they are a part of and the number in the series. It's so, so dumb. Like, are they trying to get people to buy it on accident thinking it's a standalone story, or the first of a series? I don't know why you wouldn't just put that info right on the spine as the defacto standard unless you're trying to trick people, which is a real shitty thing to do, and not very good for business in the long-run I would think. Also, name of the wind AND ocean at the end of the lane? Instant respect for your taste in books.
ForeverMasterless Seven videos before, the one titled In Depth Viewing of TFIOS Trail, Hank does a short minute or so film and in the credits you may recognize the name of a certain author. Hank then goes on to talk about the charity that said author is a part of.
ForeverMasterless Once my friend got me two books for my birthday and THEY WERE BOTH SEQUELS. AH. And it was all because they didn't SAY it was a SEQUEL on the cover!
Oh, sure... they feel fine, but it makes it a pain to actually turn the page half the time!! I'm with Hank on this one. Oh, and of course, John recommended the edition of The Odyssey like this. Grrr.
+Nakishita Kakimoto Totally. I mean, why isn't he commenting on it or anything and why is he holding it in a Book Rant video, I would never find anything to rant about in that book?
ohh my gosh i didnt see that at first and i had to go back and find that becuase i love that book so much (probably favorite book oh all time) and i was so happy that i did
I was reading a book once and half way through I decided to read about the author. To my surprise, there was a massive spoiler on the page before. The author was answering questions and one of them was "Why did you choose to have _______ die?" It was written in huge, bold letters at the top of the page. I was like "ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!" Why in the world would an author put something like that in that spot!!!!!
The author probably did that to torture poor souls like yours and make everyone suffer. I'm sorry for what that author did to you. May your soul rest in peace.
cami dourado To answer your question partially, the author had absolutely nothing to do with that decision. That would be the typesetter at the publisher. They control page layout. As a reasoning for it, though still doesn't excuse how stupid an idea it was, the way that books are bound they have to have pages in exact multiples of 4. That's why books used to have random ads, now sometimes just blank pages or those sort of bonus features, at the end to round out the numbers, and I guess they didn't want to shove in 4 more.
I actually like the deckled edge, it's makes the book feel less impersonal. I like my books with a loose spine where I can see the cracks in the coloring, a few dog-eared pages and even slight stains. They give the book texture and feeling, something to be enjoyed with the text. I want reading to be a multi-sensory experience that I enjoy, and having a pristine straight-edged book takes away that dimensionality, turning it into just paper with squiggles arranged in a particular pattern.
I agree with you for the most part; I love the feeling of a used book, where you can smell the cigarette smoke of a previous reader, and where people paused, and underlined quotes, etc. But those jagged pages are kind of difficult to use, and it doesn't give me the feeling that this a well loved book, it just looks like the printers messed up or something.
A deckle edge was originally the standard, because all paper was handmade, but now it is considered a sign of a higher end book because it used to mean that the paper slurry was poured into an individual frame, dried, and removed, instead of being made on a Fourdrinier machine, which sliced the paper uniformly. I just think it's neat that something that was inevitable, then became sought after, and is now intentionally done by machines...either way, I LOVE the deckle edge.
Those Kindle e-readers make reading so much easier for me, so much so that reading from physical books is an annoyance. I can adjust the size of the text, I can hold it in one hand and in any position I want, if I don't know what a word means I can just press it and up comes a definition, it's smaller and more portable than an average book (let alone thinner, I can just about fit it in my pocket), I can highlight stuff without a pen, I know how long left I have in the book down to the very minute, books are ludicrously cheap if not completely free, the book doesn't degrade and pages aren't torn out, and I don't even have to leave the house; it's all instant. I do like having books on a shelf for which I can boast about my sizeable collection, but for me, the actual reading of the book and what I take away from it outweighs all the benefits of having a collection akin to Alaska Young's. The main reason as to why everyone doesn't immediately go out and buy a Kindle is that they'd have to re-buy all of their books, which sucks, but also the sentimental value of reading physical books is a downside for some. People love to flick through pages and feel the soft touch of paper and have the authenticity and realness of reading a physical book. It feels personal in a way, that you're reading off real ink on a real page, and not cold metal. Also, cover art is pretty cool. But I reject all of these traditions in favour of having a more accessible and easier reading experience that I otherwise wouldn't have.
Couldn't agree more, i love my e-book-reader. Really the only thing why i kind of miss paper books is for leaving through books i've already read to find a part i really enjoyed. That is still way faster and easier with "real" books...
Leibowitz well not if you highlight that part or make a bookmark. but yes, the ebook reader is my constant companion and i love it but i do miss new books on my shelves
***** Yeah, circadian rhythms are annoying, but a simple reading light does the same for a non-backlit e-reader as it does for a non-backlit book. E-readers are like normal books but with minimised annoyance and ramped-up user accessibility.
In that scenario, I like to picture your spirit animal as a lion with Hank's head, and those built in ribbon book marks that com in fancy books as a tail.
Ooooh, books not indicating that they're part of a series when they are. HAAAAAAATE. I bought a book, which I thought was a standalone story, but it turns out it was part 3 of a trilogy.
I literally agree with every single thing that you said in this video. The only two things missing are when they change the heights of the books midway through a series, or when they do a cover change part way through a series.
Dear Nerdfighteria, we need to a write a book about a guy on a sword with a horse. It will be the second book in the Sword of Butts trilogy. There will be no first book.
Adjoa Baidoo Totally agree! I remember when I read the last book of a six book series... less enjoyable but it still made sense (somewhat) and it was actually a good read even though I didn't understand some of it
The amount of times I have gotten to the end of a book and realized I missed the first or worse that their are 3 before and a couple after!!!!! Agh I can't go back and read them because I know what happens but I need the info in the book!
+Gaby Vale P. I remember in my middle school library there being a series of books that was so amazingly cryptic about a sequel's continuity to the rest of the series the librarian taped a sign to the shelf that had all the books in order. As in instead of using numbers like a normal person, it would say something like "the prequel to the sequel of a book in a series that is the prequel to the original series which is actually in an alternate universe and provides no context to the original book at all!" I think it was Guardians of Ga'hoole or Warriors or something like that.
YES HANK YOUR RANTS ARE THE BEST PLEASE DO MORE THEY MAKE ME LAUGH SO MUCH :D Also I TOTALLY agree with everything you said especially the spoiler thing like CMON WHY WOULD YOU WRITE THAT IN THE DESCRIPTION UGH
It's like using the word in its own definition. For example: Run - The act of running. If you don't think it's a good idea, you can find 100 other ways to do it that are better.
Paul MacKnight I'm sorry, I understand your first sentence and totally agree but I'm extremely confused about what you are trying to say in the second :P Not trying to be snarky here, literally just confused.
TheBuddsO What Paul means is that the spoiler thing is a little like when dictionaries define words, and their definitions have the word they were originally trying to define in it. For example, if you look up the word, "feminist," you might find a definition like, "one who supports feminism." What are you supposed to get from that? What if you don't even know what feminism IS?
Anmol Joshi Yes I understood that part but I don't understand what his second sentence has to do with that, the "if you don't think its a good idea" part...
The thing that bugs me more than ANYTHING else these days is BAD FORMATTING on eBooks. It kills me because it shouldn't be a problem in the first place. If my phone can tell when I miss a space between two words, then so can you, Amazon, et al.!
SPOILERS FOR CINDER IN THE FOLLOWING PART let´s just take a moment of appreciation that in the backtext of the german cinder book there was written that cinder is from luna.......
The thing about publishers not putting numbers on the books in a series is so infuriating! It's why I always check on Goodreads before buying. But my theory is that bookstores tend to only stock the most recent release in a series (unless it's a super popular best-seller) and people would be less likely to buy a book if it's book 4 in a series, and therefore they're better off getting you to unwittingly buy book 4, safe in the knowledge you're gonna come back and ask for books 1-3
You missed one of the most irritating things about books and their covers!! Changing the cover style *Half way through a series!!!!!* Why the eff would they do that?!!? They just completely ruined my bookshelf!! It physically hurts me when this happens...
Yeah why haven't they made books waterproof yet??? I have a hot tub and I would love to read while sitting in it without the fear of ruining my book by dropping it.
I can just about stand it when I start off a series with the paperbacks then I end up with hardbacks. But you know what hurts my soul? When an author switches publishers part way through the series so the spines look different. The Maximum Ride series by James Patterson goes through 5 different ones in the space of 8 books and seeing them on my shelf is so annoying. Also, with the series of unfortunate events I had 12 books, all identical, then my aunt buys me the 13th book FROM AMERICA. Different spine! RAGE!
Max Ride was only good for the first three anyway :( I didn't even read the last two, I got so tired of the degrading writing... So sad, cause I loved that series
By the end it was all about the love triangle. It started off great, got all preachy about climate change, then became pointless romantic crap. But I just had to read them because I started and I can't just stop haha.
I had to present a book report for class in fifth grade, and afterwards, the guy I had a crush on was like oh, cool he was just reading that book. "I haven't gotten to the part you were talking about, though," he told me, and showed me how he was halfway through the book. That was a low moment in my history. No spoilers is serious stuff.
What about book series that update their cover designs halfway through the series so you have to either buy new books or have a mismatching collection?!
Your next project... become a booktuber. We will welcome you with open arms. Honestly, though, I'd love to hear you ranting about specific books! You should definitely do that! :D
This is absolutely one of my favourite Hank videos ever! I have watched it at least 10 times. I'm not even exaggerating. My life in one video. I seriously laugh out loud every time.
I literally cannot agree more with the points he makes in this video. The whole series thing drives me CRAZY. I got a book from the library once, and I didn't realize until I had already checked it out and almost started to read it that it was part of a series. Publishing companies seriously need to start labeling books in a series. Thank you, Hank. Every time I watch this video, I love it even more than the last time. Keep preaching!!!!!
Just a note to any pants makers that might be watching this video. Please continue making pants with the 3 necessary holes in them, I do not wish to have to cut these out myself.
Hahaha, I remember this comment from the last time I watched this video. Still made me laugh.
when a book is adapted into a movie and then the poster of the movie gets slapped unto the cover of the book... blehhhh... :(
Thank you! I thought I was the only one.
like the new TFiOS cover
YES
IKR I HATE IT SO MUCH
chuni sangmo I actually don't mind that. Assuming it's a decent movie poster.
I once read a whole book, without realizing that it was the fourth part of a series. I just thought "I think I'm missing a lot of background story..."
This is one of the best comments I've read in a while.
Judith L When I was younger, I didn't understand how series worked, and I read Harry Potter out of order! I remember reading The Chamber of Secrets first and being extremely confused. "There's so much they're not explaining to me.... :("
I read the third book in the Maze Runner series a couple years ago. Still haven't read the rest.
I always end up googling the book to see if it might be part of a series
I hear that once read books 2 to 8 in a series before finally finding the first one. No surprises in what happened in the book by then mind you they had let slip enough references to what happened by then.
The second he said "Why would you put a major spoiler in the description on the back of the book!" I hit the thumbs up.
I hate that!
omg I did the same thing!
It makes me happy when hank rants. I feel at ease and strangely comforted
Thumbs up if hank should rant about more stuff
I suffer from a nasty amount of depression and I agree, his rants always seem to life my mood
Angry Hank is my favourite Hank.
"Decapitated YA fiction Ladies... We've had enough" haha.
Treefrog Johnson +
"If you're paying more for something that makes it less functional, maybe not do it. " same, Hank. Same.
I literally pointed at the screen and yelled "yes!" at least 5 times during this video.
Me too!
This video spoke to my soul.
Two years later, the "Sword of Butts Trilogy" still makes me cackle with laughter.
Sword of butts the tale of a man on a sword
Excalibutt 😂😂😂
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This is definitely one of my ultimate favorite videos on youtube ever.
Definitely
+Rodina A. (Ro-day-nah) not penultimate?
The worst betrayal that I have ever had as a reader is finding out that the book series I had just finished was actually a series within a series of series. As in, I had read a standalone series of books that took place in the middle of a larger series. There was no end to it! So I gave up.
rewatching for like the 10th time, and I was reminded of one of my biggest pet peeves when buying books: when they change the covers part way through the series. I JUST WANT MATCHING COVERS DANGIT.
That reminds me of the Shatter Me trilogy, the first book does not match the second book AT ALL!
Or changing the cover of the book to the a movie cover. I still dislike how "The Life of Pi"'s cover is from the movie and not the simple one that I've seen before and hoped to buy. Sigh.
Shengz W At that moment I only found the one with the movie cover. And I can't buy online at this moment.
kind of related but with audio books. It's irritating when the person reading the book gets changed between books, sometimes it's three different people for a single series!
JacquieVlogsHere YESS THIS KILLS ME
Fourth time I've watched this and it tickles me EVERY TIME. Love, love, love AND, yes, number series please!! Gargh!
I've watched this about 10 times and its on my bookmark bar along with like 5 other vlogbrother videos. Love your rants Hank.
agreed.
Louise!!
I agree with everything you said, except our feelings on the deckled edges. I think they are so aesthetically pleasing. Deckled edges do cost more to manufacture because rather than just send the paper through to be blunt cut, it has to be shifted and pattern cut. It adds a few steps on the production line. I don't know why I am telling you that. I'm sure if you cared to know you already would. ha.
I also dislike cover changes, and mismatched covers. If all of the other books in the series have foreboding landscapes, don't stick a man with a sword on a horse on book 4!
What is the attraction of deckled edges? I'd never heard of the until recently. :-)
Mark Lewis For me, I like them because they look make the book look vintage. I'm also a fan of foil edged pages, and woven binding instead of just glue. So for me, its just a "pretty". There really isn't a purpose for them, nowadays other than that. If I remember my history correctly, all books were deckled back when books were first mass produced, it wasn't on purpose, just how the process was ended up. Eventually, deckled gave way to blunt cut, and the deckled edges became "collectible", an extravagance and a sign of wealth. I think thats right, anyway.
Okay, thanks. :) I like the gilded edges myself, but I haven't seen many of those lately.
Mark Lewis Nope, they don't make those too much anymore. Not unless you want to get into the "collecting" side of things. I've been eyeballing The Count of Monte Cristo from Easton Press but holy crumbs. Thats a car payment. LOL
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I enjoy the non-flat edges because of the texture.
I believe that was the most entertaining rant video ever hahaa
This was the BEST video you have ever done (in my oh so humble opinion). I irl lol'd!
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I can't stand it when the authors name is bigger than the actually title of the book! To me, it makes me wonder if they designed the cover and was thinking," Oh I am so awesome I wrote a book AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW IT!"
That tends to be only when the author is very famous or well-liked. I had alway assumed it as the publishing company who was like "oh we had better make sure everyone knows who wrote this because then they'll be more likely to buy it because they like that person."
Also, the Author doesn’t design the cover.
I couldn't help but read that quotation in John's voice.
THIS. ESPECIALLY when the title of the book is the main characters name too.
MY HANK GREEN BRINGS ALL THE NERDS TO THE YARD
'Decapitated ladies' this video was the 99 problems of my life. God bless you Hank Green
Hey! That's me, "How to Adult," on the end screen! I am in a Vlogbrothers video?! ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!
(Also: Thank you, Hank!)
"Decapitated YA fiction ladies, stop, we've had enough" oh my god, i didn't understand this until i went back and OH MY GOD
Books that look like Twilight and are Twilight, WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT???
Hey, hey. Hey. I like Twilight, John likes Twilight. That's alright. *Badum ptss*
I'm so alone.
LOL
Oh man, I love deckled edges. They're just so pretty.
Me too, Karen. Me too.
It's funny you say that. We had some of those at the library I worked at, and my coworkers and I literally thought that those were the books that were screwed up in production and they sold them to libraries for a discount. We couldn't think of any other reason why they would look so bad.
It's not that I like using them, but I recognize that they are a more traditional approach to book binding. Also, +1 for being Karen Kavett (are you the talented nerdfighter that John always says such nice things about?)
Anyway, I have a feeling that Hank is going to get a bit of an education from the handmade book craft movement. Like drinking water from a fire hydrant...
This was glorious!
I love deckled egde, 1) I never got paper cuts from them, 2) they feel different 3) it looks more medieval/scoll-like, it was one of the reason why I loved Lemony Snicket books
NOOO I LOVE THE ROUGH EDGES ON BOOKS LIKE THE TALE OF DESPEREAUX??? THE MICE LIKED TO CHEW ON BOOKS AND IT GIVES IT SUCH A HOMEY FEELING DONT TAKE AWAY MY DECKLE EDGES
This is probably the best rant video I have ever watched.
The edging issue you're having is on books that both cost more and don't, in a sense. QUICK LESSON IN BOOKBINDING TIME!
So as books are made in the older style, they are made by folding sheets of paper outside of themselves in groupings, then stitching them all together before stitching them to the front and back plate, then covering those plates with leather and cord. Very little has changed in this process, namely that we now use adhesives instead of stitching. Now, normally, one would take a drop blade to those edges to cut them off and make a nice flushed edge, but hipster book manufacturers leave it on to give the book a more "Old-timey" feel.
You don't see this on paperback books for a very specific reason. Namely that paperback books aren't made this way. They are made by taking a stack of pages, and dipping the entire stack in an adhesive glue on one side, then slapping it into the cover "Sheet", folding it shut, pressing it hard as hell, then cutting off whatever excess remains if the rest didn't go according to plan. However, by the nature of how a hardback is manufactured, although not THAT different at their core, the possibility of the non-sheared edges remains. One of the reasons they don't cut those edges off is that getting around the hardback itself, which overlaps, can be a bit of a pain, but it's really not THAT hard, so it still makes no sense that it isn't done.
i like deckled edges for the aesthetic nature, but good luck trying to flip through the book to find that quote you really liked.
I DESPISE books that don't tell me what series they are a part of and the number in the series. It's so, so dumb. Like, are they trying to get people to buy it on accident thinking it's a standalone story, or the first of a series? I don't know why you wouldn't just put that info right on the spine as the defacto standard unless you're trying to trick people, which is a real shitty thing to do, and not very good for business in the long-run I would think.
Also, name of the wind AND ocean at the end of the lane? Instant respect for your taste in books.
ForeverMasterless Seven videos before, the one titled In Depth Viewing of TFIOS Trail, Hank does a short minute or so film and in the credits you may recognize the name of a certain author. Hank then goes on to talk about the charity that said author is a part of.
ForeverMasterless Once my friend got me two books for my birthday and THEY WERE BOTH SEQUELS. AH. And it was all because they didn't SAY it was a SEQUEL on the cover!
Basically a booktuber's ultimate speech. Thank you for this, Hank. THE PUBLISHERS REALLY NEED TO FIX THAT NUMBER THING.
Ah, I love the feel of deckled edges.
Oh, sure... they feel fine, but it makes it a pain to actually turn the page half the time!! I'm with Hank on this one. Oh, and of course, John recommended the edition of The Odyssey like this. Grrr.
I'm still fascinated by Hank swinging around The Name of the Wind randomly...
+Nakishita Kakimoto As he should, that novel is beyond fantastic.
+Nicole Braun I agree completely.
+Nakishita Kakimoto Totally. I mean, why isn't he commenting on it or anything and why is he holding it in a Book Rant video, I would never find anything to rant about in that book?
ohh my gosh i didnt see that at first and i had to go back and find that becuase i love that book so much (probably favorite book oh all time) and i was so happy that i did
When Hank reached back for a book from the bookshelf @2:10 I was SHOCKED!
I always thought the shelf was waaay back in the room, .. just me?
yess
I think Hank covered every single one of my book pet peeves. Impressive.
Yes, and a few non-book related ones too :3
That Alaska thing spoiled the book for me. I tore out that page before I let someone borrow my copy.
This video is my favorite thing after books
as an english literature student, this is by far my favourite vlogbrothers video ever. Hank you are my book opinionated hero
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR RANTS BECAUSE IM JUST LIKE NODDING THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH.
This is one of my new favorite vlogbrothers videos I think. Excellent. Keep doing what you're doing.
I was reading a book once and half way through I decided to read about the author. To my surprise, there was a massive spoiler on the page before. The author was answering questions and one of them was "Why did you choose to have _______ die?" It was written in huge, bold letters at the top of the page. I was like "ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!" Why in the world would an author put something like that in that spot!!!!!
The author probably did that to torture poor souls like yours and make everyone suffer. I'm sorry for what that author did to you. May your soul rest in peace.
RIP my soul D:
cami dourado To answer your question partially, the author had absolutely nothing to do with that decision. That would be the typesetter at the publisher. They control page layout.
As a reasoning for it, though still doesn't excuse how stupid an idea it was, the way that books are bound they have to have pages in exact multiples of 4. That's why books used to have random ads, now sometimes just blank pages or those sort of bonus features, at the end to round out the numbers, and I guess they didn't want to shove in 4 more.
Another gripe that I have. Why are some books printed in such low quality that I can ERASE THE WORDS WITH MY HANDS?
I actually like the deckled edge, it's makes the book feel less impersonal. I like my books with a loose spine where I can see the cracks in the coloring, a few dog-eared pages and even slight stains. They give the book texture and feeling, something to be enjoyed with the text. I want reading to be a multi-sensory experience that I enjoy, and having a pristine straight-edged book takes away that dimensionality, turning it into just paper with squiggles arranged in a particular pattern.
I agree with you for the most part; I love the feeling of a used book, where you can smell the cigarette smoke of a previous reader, and where people paused, and underlined quotes, etc. But those jagged pages are kind of difficult to use, and it doesn't give me the feeling that this a well loved book, it just looks like the printers messed up or something.
A deckle edge was originally the standard, because all paper was handmade, but now it is considered a sign of a higher end book because it used to mean that the paper slurry was poured into an individual frame, dried, and removed, instead of being made on a Fourdrinier machine, which sliced the paper uniformly. I just think it's neat that something that was inevitable, then became sought after, and is now intentionally done by machines...either way, I LOVE the deckle edge.
It makes me so happy that you were waving "The Name of the Wind" around.
There should be a part 2 to this!! so funny!!
Those Kindle e-readers make reading so much easier for me, so much so that reading from physical books is an annoyance. I can adjust the size of the text, I can hold it in one hand and in any position I want, if I don't know what a word means I can just press it and up comes a definition, it's smaller and more portable than an average book (let alone thinner, I can just about fit it in my pocket), I can highlight stuff without a pen, I know how long left I have in the book down to the very minute, books are ludicrously cheap if not completely free, the book doesn't degrade and pages aren't torn out, and I don't even have to leave the house; it's all instant. I do like having books on a shelf for which I can boast about my sizeable collection, but for me, the actual reading of the book and what I take away from it outweighs all the benefits of having a collection akin to Alaska Young's.
The main reason as to why everyone doesn't immediately go out and buy a Kindle is that they'd have to re-buy all of their books, which sucks, but also the sentimental value of reading physical books is a downside for some. People love to flick through pages and feel the soft touch of paper and have the authenticity and realness of reading a physical book. It feels personal in a way, that you're reading off real ink on a real page, and not cold metal. Also, cover art is pretty cool. But I reject all of these traditions in favour of having a more accessible and easier reading experience that I otherwise wouldn't have.
Couldn't agree more, i love my e-book-reader. Really the only thing why i kind of miss paper books is for leaving through books i've already read to find a part i really enjoyed. That is still way faster and easier with "real" books...
Leibowitz well not if you highlight that part or make a bookmark. but yes, the ebook reader is my constant companion and i love it but i do miss new books on my shelves
***** Most e-readers (like the kindle etc.) aren't backlit so reading before bed is fine!
***** Yeah, circadian rhythms are annoying, but a simple reading light does the same for a non-backlit e-reader as it does for a non-backlit book. E-readers are like normal books but with minimised annoyance and ramped-up user accessibility.
Best video in quite a while. Love the passion.
Hank: John, you’re an author
Me, from the future: SO ARE YOU HANK YOU WROTE A BOOK AND WE’RE ALL SO PROUD OF YOU!!!!!!!
Hank is my spirit animal.
In that scenario, I like to picture your spirit animal as a lion with Hank's head, and those built in ribbon book marks that com in fancy books as a tail.
OMG YES.
And who says reading isn't fun? :P
You should rant more, this was quite entertaining
Lol says the queen of rants.
Ooooh, books not indicating that they're part of a series when they are. HAAAAAAATE. I bought a book, which I thought was a standalone story, but it turns out it was part 3 of a trilogy.
Or, when you know they are part of a series and they don't tell you which order it goes in. I've had that happen a few times
YES. THIS. It's the bane of my life! I can't read the rest of your series, IF I DON'T KNOW IT EXISTS.
CloudCuckooCountry lol true.
"I can make my own pant holes thank you" -Hank green
I really appreciate how non-spoilery the vlogbrothers are in their videos...thank you, Hank, for not spoiling Looking for Alaska!
This is gold. Been loving angry/cray Hank's videos!
I literally agree with every single thing that you said in this video. The only two things missing are when they change the heights of the books midway through a series, or when they do a cover change part way through a series.
I love that you're angrily swinging hhe Name of the Wind around! That book gives me life!
this is arguably the best vlogbrothers video I've ever seen. and it speaks to me on a very deep emotional level
Dear Nerdfighteria, we need to a write a book about a guy on a sword with a horse. It will be the second book in the Sword of Butts trilogy. There will be no first book.
Nor will there be a third.
I'm willing to pose for the cover.
You got me in, let me know when and where haha.
C.I. DeMann We will have an audition. But.....if he's ON a sword, wouldn't it actually be "The Butt of Swords"??????
I love Hank's little OCD meltdown over the non-matching numbers :D
I didn't realize how much I needed this video until I found it.
EXACTLY!! Oh my gosh, it would be really nice to know if a book is the sequel or the third book in a series.
Because if they don't tell you and you get the book, now you're confused about everything going on, since NO ONE TOLD YOU IT WAS PART OF A SERIES
Adjoa Baidoo Totally agree! I remember when I read the last book of a six book series... less enjoyable but it still made sense (somewhat) and it was actually a good read even though I didn't understand some of it
SERIOUSLY
I Once bought the second and fourth book of a series by accident just couldn't understand what was going on
The amount of times I have gotten to the end of a book and realized I missed the first or worse that their are 3 before and a couple after!!!!! Agh I can't go back and read them because I know what happens but I need the info in the book!
+Gaby Vale P. I remember in my middle school library there being a series of books that was so amazingly cryptic about a sequel's continuity to the rest of the series the librarian taped a sign to the shelf that had all the books in order. As in instead of using numbers like a normal person, it would say something like "the prequel to the sequel of a book in a series that is the prequel to the original series which is actually in an alternate universe and provides no context to the original book at all!" I think it was Guardians of Ga'hoole or Warriors or something like that.
YES HANK YOUR RANTS ARE THE BEST PLEASE DO MORE THEY MAKE ME LAUGH SO MUCH :D Also I TOTALLY agree with everything you said especially the spoiler thing like CMON WHY WOULD YOU WRITE THAT IN THE DESCRIPTION UGH
It's like using the word in its own definition. For example: Run - The act of running. If you don't think it's a good idea, you can find 100 other ways to do it that are better.
Paul MacKnight I'm sorry, I understand your first sentence and totally agree but I'm extremely confused about what you are trying to say in the second :P Not trying to be snarky here, literally just confused.
TheBuddsO What Paul means is that the spoiler thing is a little like when dictionaries define words, and their definitions have the word they were originally trying to define in it. For example, if you look up the word, "feminist," you might find a definition like, "one who supports feminism." What are you supposed to get from that? What if you don't even know what feminism IS?
Anmol Joshi Yes I understood that part but I don't understand what his second sentence has to do with that, the "if you don't think its a good idea" part...
TheBuddsO Oh, alright then. I don't get it either :I
This is what I love, Hank. I love it when you are passionate, intelligent, and _completely_ insane.
I love this stuff. You guys have taken the art of vlogging and perfected. Good job.
Is it me or when he says 'Why? Why? Why?' hank sounded like a Dalek?
I was thinking the exact same thing.
The thing that bugs me more than ANYTHING else these days is BAD FORMATTING on eBooks. It kills me because it shouldn't be a problem in the first place. If my phone can tell when I miss a space between two words, then so can you, Amazon, et al.!
I recently begun reading an a tablet, OH GOD THIS IS SO TRUEEEE *Angry dance*
But see... it's a SMARTphone. That's how it knows *snrkle*
Started laughing uncontrollably when he points out the different printing of book # in series. That drives me insane!
SPOILERS FOR CINDER IN THE FOLLOWING PART
let´s just take a moment of appreciation that in the backtext of the german cinder book there was written that cinder is from luna.......
This literally just made my day omg
You have mastered Vlogging
The thing about publishers not putting numbers on the books in a series is so infuriating! It's why I always check on Goodreads before buying.
But my theory is that bookstores tend to only stock the most recent release in a series (unless it's a super popular best-seller) and people would be less likely to buy a book if it's book 4 in a series, and therefore they're better off getting you to unwittingly buy book 4, safe in the knowledge you're gonna come back and ask for books 1-3
Goodreads is a constant lifesaver. It's the best book site I have found so far.
So this is now a favorite video of mine.
Way! The book he had in his hand "Name of the Wind" was so good! ^^
I looked for this comment. Thank you for posting it
what are your opinions on whether spoiler spoiler was a spoiler or a spoiler
+matthew walker Definitely a spoiler
+Ellamae Fried Well, I think it was a spoiler though
+Sandra de Vries Well actually the spoiler spoiler of the spoiler makes it so that the spoiler is totally a spoiler.
I want to read Sword of Butts.
You missed one of the most irritating things about books and their covers!!
Changing the cover style *Half way through a series!!!!!* Why the eff would they do that?!!? They just completely ruined my bookshelf!! It physically hurts me when this happens...
Yeah why haven't they made books waterproof yet??? I have a hot tub and I would love to read while sitting in it without the fear of ruining my book by dropping it.
same!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of your best videos, Hank. I have to keep coming back to rewatch it every once in a while.
This makes me the most happy.
I'm a fan of the deckled edge, having been to art school and learning about paper making/cutting, etc. :)
I can just about stand it when I start off a series with the paperbacks then I end up with hardbacks. But you know what hurts my soul? When an author switches publishers part way through the series so the spines look different. The Maximum Ride series by James Patterson goes through 5 different ones in the space of 8 books and seeing them on my shelf is so annoying. Also, with the series of unfortunate events I had 12 books, all identical, then my aunt buys me the 13th book FROM AMERICA. Different spine! RAGE!
Max Ride was only good for the first three anyway :( I didn't even read the last two, I got so tired of the degrading writing... So sad, cause I loved that series
By the end it was all about the love triangle. It started off great, got all preachy about climate change, then became pointless romantic crap. But I just had to read them because I started and I can't just stop haha.
NalakittyAMVs I literally agree with you on every count. Everything you just said is 100% truth.
This among my top 5 Hank videos. You're great Hank!
What are your other top Hank videos? I would love to know!! :D
YES. DOWN WITH DECKLED EDGE PAGES.
there's worse than deckled edge pages, there are pages that you have to cut by yourself and they BECOME deckled edged...
Cover changes. Especially when it's like the last book in the series or half way through. It makes me and my bookshelf sad.
Amen! Hallelujah! Preach it brotha!
The Name of the Wind, Scott Pilgrim and Sandman. You sir have my respect, like and subscribe.
I had to present a book report for class in fifth grade, and afterwards, the guy I had a crush on was like oh, cool he was just reading that book. "I haven't gotten to the part you were talking about, though," he told me, and showed me how he was halfway through the book. That was a low moment in my history. No spoilers is serious stuff.
Hank ranting is one of my favorite things.
I have been waiting my whole life for this. Thank you. Thank you so much.
This is the most beautiful rant ever.
What about book series that update their cover designs halfway through the series so you have to either buy new books or have a mismatching collection?!
Your next project... become a booktuber. We will welcome you with open arms. Honestly, though, I'd love to hear you ranting about specific books! You should definitely do that! :D
I am completely unfamiliar with the term booktuber...which, as a book lover, may be a little sad for me.
I would love that too!
I really love how passionate Hank is. It's really adorable
One time I was reading this book blurb and it was the funeral of the main character...
Ugh! The spines changing... THE HORROR!!!
I love when you rant about stuff I care about.
This is absolutely one of my favourite Hank videos ever! I have watched it at least 10 times. I'm not even exaggerating. My life in one video. I seriously laugh out loud every time.
I literally cannot agree more with the points he makes in this video. The whole series thing drives me CRAZY. I got a book from the library once, and I didn't realize until I had already checked it out and almost started to read it that it was part of a series. Publishing companies seriously need to start labeling books in a series.
Thank you, Hank. Every time I watch this video, I love it even more than the last time.
Keep preaching!!!!!