Someone threw these vintage computers in the garbage! Let's see if we can get them working!
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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3 vintage x86-based computers rescued from the trash... Let's see if they're any good!
No stupid loud intro, no clickbait, and no annoying music. You got my like.
You can hear the salesman telling them " it has a WD Caviar , 2GB, more storage than you'll ever need, its future proof"
Nana definitely found a way to fill it up!
I use to sell and work om computers back then. Yes that was the good old catch phrase "All you will ever need!" Hahahaha
LLAP 🖖
640k ! ;D
@@mm-hl7gh Yup! I believe it was Bill Gates himself that actually stated that 640k was all you will ever need! 😂
Western digital drives of that area were the among the worst. They all failed. To this day I still hate them.
It was not a spider, it was a web developer!
😂
And it bit Peter Parker
When that Windows 98 desktop showed the diving theme and the starfish cursor, it reminded me of how my late father had his computer(s) set up.
He LOVED the themes, used them constantly, and would call me up frequently, asking what was bogging down his system.
:) RIP Dad.
I used to do the same sort of PC archeology so it was fun to tag along. And I appreciate that you saved the giant spider.
Our local recycling center used to set out systems of this era for free. Now they throw entire PCs into dumpsters and chase off "scavengers" who might try to save them from being shredded. Frustrating.
The scrappers definitely hurt my soul… I don’t get it - these parts have to be more valuable for what they are vs their scrap value… I have an HP Vectra powered by a Pentium Pro, which allegedly has the highest amount of gold of any CPU. They’ll have to pry it from my cold, dead hands! Then they’ll need to fight me as a zombie!
@@miketech1024 They'd likely spend more on the equipment to *scavenge all the gold* than they'd get for selling the results, ignorant, sell the PC or the parts you'd get way more bang for the buck, and help save a bit of history
PC archaeology! I like that term!
I also used to do a lot of PC archeology in 2000's when I was a teenager (got some machines to work also), nowadays it's quite hard to find anything because mostly are taken to recycling centers here in Estonia too._
@@miketech1024 I've got the Vectra with a 286, one of the first vectra's from hp. I also have three or four HP-150, one first series with two flops and two with hd's. Those were the first ever touch screen pc's. Have them complete with original software and manuals as I used the be the head of the IT department in my office. Also got some original IBM and novell equipment. Not to mention a truck load of old cards, drives and whatnot. All stored in my attic. Could actually start a museum. Fond memories.
Damn the tech is easy on the eye and so is Mike
The second computer taking time during the first boot could be because Windows detected changes in hardware and was working with switching drivers and changing settings. At the second boot everything had stayed the same, so it was just a normal boot.
I’d be cranky too if someone woke me up from a 2-decade slumber! 😂
Windows 98 booting in a totally different hardware environment without a blue screen. That is amazing. The plug & play system came out winning after 15 minutes.
Windows 98 seemed particularly bad about that! I mean, if it didn't power down absolutely perfectly, if the weather changed, or if you re-seated some RAM it seemed like it had to go rethink it's whole existence lol!
@@davidg3044 And if you re-located a PCI or ISA card, you best pray to the PnP gods! 🤣
@@miketech1024 😂 exactly! I
I very much appreciate your gentle handling of the spider.
The "ringing" sound that you hear from the cover when you open up those old PCs always brings back fond memories! I've been trying to get back to rebuilding my old PC collection to boost my spirits up due to ill health and watching videos from fellow collectors like yourself is also a very important part of it as well. Thank you Mike for your videos! They definitely do help! 👍👍
I found this extremely relaxing, and also extremely nostalgic. Me and my dad used to work on old pcs together and seeing that celeron really brought back some memories!
So happy to see you release the spider outdoors. I've never understood the widespread fear and even hatred of spiders; most are completely harmless, all are beneficial environmentally; and none will bite a human without provocation. There are many good spider-related videos on UA-cam, by bona fide trained wildlife personnel, aiming to clear up the unfair myths surrounding these creatures.
Nice to see mid 90's rigs and hard drives still working in them!
Looks like some kind of wolf spider. Pretty harmless but very useful in nature 😊
All that hardware looks very familiar.
My 1st pc also had VLB (1 VLB slot), it was a 486dx2-66.
I wish I had 16mb ram back then 😁
Those AOpen cases were simple but pretty good. They had pretty reliable power supplies.
Man that brings back fond memories. I still remember my computer running an AMD K6-233 processor. Good times. I miss those days. Thanks for the memories of better days. Cheers
My dad built an AMD K6-2 system back when it was bleeding-edge technology. 500 MHz! I thought it was a supercomputer! 🤣
I had a home-built K6-233 box back in my student days. When the motherboard failed I replaced it with a Super7 board that would take my existing CPU and RAM, yet give me more upgrade headroom as I couldn't afford to buy a whole new machine. Later, I upgraded it to a K6-2/450. The board had 1MB cache on board. Nice machine for it's time, ran Linux really well.
Back in the old days you never knew what cards you would find in old machines.
Sweet find! That VLB system would've been an excellent late DOS game performer in its day with not only the VLB video card, but also that VLB drive controller. Coupled with that 100 MHz DX4 chip, it's perfect for early 3D games like Duke Nukem and Heretic, and of course, DOOM. I also dig that 'Vanilla Darth Vader' style front bezel.
Good job with the spider! I used to work on these types of machines in an antiquated computer lab. But the spider got you a like and subscribe!
That third system is an AOpen barebones probably sold around 98 or 99, the slotket adapter alone was worth picking it up. with a little time, some cleaning, and a re-cap, it would make a really good turn of the century gaming machine.
That motherboard will definitely be making a re-appearance on this channel. I’m determined to get it working!
@@miketech1024 I wonder if a simple cleaning up with some rubbing alcohol would bring it around. Maybe some of the traces are messed up from being so dirty. It's amazing just what a simple cleaning can do to a machine.
Wow. Whoever had those systems built had an eye for quality add-in boards. Official name-brand Creative Sound Blasters in every single system, and even a VLB card made by Number Nine.
I remember bringing home computers from the trash with my grandpa as a kid. Such good memories this is so nostalgic lol I love watching your videos
i’ll be 100% honest with ya, clicked for the guy but i stayed for the content, great video!
Thank you for treating the spider with respect.
Aww, that spider was adorable.
Yeah I certainly don’t mind spiders. They eat the bugs that really creep me out! This one is a wolf spider, very common here in Florida. They’re quite gentle giants. They have to be really agitated before they bite. Now it’s patrolling my back yard!
Thank you for not harming the spider and letting it loose. It seemed gentle but in similar situations so many others would just kill it. But you didn't
You beat me to it . Most spiders seem to be chill . I've picked up many bare hands and never taken a bite . I love spiders and can't even imagine how there is such fear over them for some people. We are many times bigger than a spider and if we really wanted to we could end one with zero effort and I wonder if the spiders know this and think if they bite then they will get smooshed or something plus even if you did get bit you likely wouldn't die or have a bad reaction unless you have an allergy. Hell I've even picked a widow up once or twice before and all they did was calmly walk around like they didn't even care lol . I'm really hooked on watching spiders up close, I find them so fascinating.
Sadly though, putting a "house" spider into a garden is a death sentence
@@grabtharshammer I agree . I usually just allow them to continue living inside.
@@42TY.Gamingso scary, so many legs 😣
I worked for Shaw cable back then. From 1997 on up until nicks came built in onto the MB. The NIC was installed and supplied by Shaw when broadband was launched. I installed 1000's of them.
12:00 that case is basically identical to one sold for the Amiga 1200 back in the late 90's called the "Power Tower 1200".
Great computers and arms!
I have built over 300 of the first machine you opened... it brought back some memories. I used to work in a computer store in the mid 90s.
Love your videos and your witty commentary!
Please make more 🙂
Certainly brought back some memories!
I stayed for the pc stuff, but I subbed for saving the spider.
Great to see these old 90s/00s PCs so well dissected. You do a great job of describing what all the parts are. It brings back so many memories of this era of PCs.
That spider was pretty relaxed... he was beautiful. A wolf spider I think. I'm glad you're the kind of guy to treat him nicely and put him outside.
Thanks!! Yup, it was a wolf spider. They’re very common in this area. Perfectly harmless but also a horror show for the arachnophobes. They have to be incredibly agitated before they’ll bite.
This is right up my alley. I used to do the same thing back in the 90s and early 00s by looking at yard sales for unwanted tech.
As a general rule of thumb, 8 quick beeps during POST is a video problem in the vast majority of those older systems.
I've heard of 'bugs' in a system...but a spider big enough to almost be called a small tarantula was not expected. 🤣
In all seriousness this was a cool trip down memory lane. Cheers.
glad i found your channel.....this is my wife's UA-cam acct that i use * i dont have one*...but I used to love OCing old school tech, and still love seeing it!! just now getting back into OCing after stopping back in 2007.
Many, many years ago I was working for a company that integrated touch screens on monitors and the warehouse was in the same building as an IBM storage facility. I came to work one day and they had a 20 yard open top dumpster in front of the loading dock at the IBM place. The workers were literally throwing PS1's, PS2's and IBM Jr. complete systems into the dumpster, monitors, keyboard, you name it. Some were even new still in the original boxes! They told me they were purging all the old outdated AT hardware. I asked if I could get some of the stuff and they told me I could take as much of the crap as I wanted. I completely filled my car with IBM PC's and even stacked a bunch of the systems in a corner where I worked. The next day the dumpster was gone. I got at least 30 complete systems and a ton of parts and peripherals out of that dumpster. They tossed away at least 300 to 400 systems and at least that many monitors. Almost all of the PS2 and PS1 systems were functional and working and I sold almost all of them at a flea market near where I lived. That's was got me interested in PC's in the first place.
"Boring modern computers not worth a second glance" *could* be retro gems in 30 years, just saying.
On the first computer (the baby AT system) the IO board had VLB because it also had headers for Primary and Secondary IDE and Floppy Inferface. I remember some systems had them because they didn't have any motherboard interfaces, others had these cards because they had a 'high speed' drive interface chip for IDE (PATA) drive performance. Some of these cards needed a proprietary driver to work correctly which would result in the drive data silently corrupting if this driver was not installed and configured to run at boot time even though the system appeared to work correctly without the driver. This I know from persnal experience as an IT technician for many years. The PCB jumpers would allow configuration either as the main IDE interface or as a secondary interface allowing up to 8 drives to be installed. Other jumpers would configure the parallel port.
On the second system, the Soundblaster AWE64 was one of the earliest wavetable synthesis sound cards and was considered a high-end card.
The sound card in the third is decent as well.
This video earned my sub for sure, thank you for not killing the spider.
First off, seeing the innards of these old machines brought back memories of my old Intel Celeron desktop (I don't recall the model, we got it back in 1996 or so), and my old eMachines eMonster, after which I'd start building my own PCs. Nice finds!
Secondly, thank you so much for gently scooping up and releasing that spider. I'm sure he's happier, and I know I am!
It would have been 98 or after. The Celeron first released in 1998 as a more affordable version of the Pentium II.
Respect for not killing the spider!
I appreciate you going through all that old software....oh the memories...
I found a 386 system in the trash about a month ago. All I really got was the neodymium magnets from the hard drive. Cool!
1994 was the 1st year after I graduated from college . I remember the computers being so expensive I never even thought about buying one...
So cool to look back at what I missed ....
Thanks !
The garbage was my exclusive source of systems and parts back then. My family was quite broke!
29:50 nice to see how you do with the spider. he seems to have fear, not knowing whats going on and looking for a hide behind the cables. poor little spider. great you free him.
i'm so jealous. this old tech has some special kind of charm. i could dig all day in these old things - and im not even from that time.
Bless Nana and that windows theme
Respect for not killing the spider-buddy.
Nice finds, especially that 486DX.
skin crawled at the reveal of that big ass spider, that is one of the things that worries me about fixing old tech is the horrors i potentially bring into my home lol. Also huge respect for handling it like a champ and respecting it in the end.
this brings back the memories for sure. i fiddled and repaired a lot of them over the years. i enjoyed them so much i used the chassis/towers of the non functional ones as gaming rigs and daily drivers. i replaced all the old internals with all modern internals. i sure wish i could find more of them old towers.
Great video, also appreciate the gentle touch with the spider!
1:57 - I had a pc set like this and I managed to revive it a dozen years ago 😅
• watching from Melaka, Malaysia 🇲🇾✌🏻
wow - you should model! so gorgeous! Awesome video too.
EZ subscribe, you had me at dumpster diving. I built most of my computers from dumpsters and even had a pretty nice NEC flat view CRT monitor I used for years from an electronics surplus store dumpster that was damaged on the side... but nothing a Free Kevin bumper sticker couldn't fix!
Wow u did it congratulations 7k plus
Fantastic
All the best
Dave
London uk
All the best 🎉
Oh neat, you're from philadelphia! I moved there recently.
Nice! I was born and raised in South Philly, though I moved to Florida about 15 years ago. Still occasionally find my way back to the homeland every few years.
i used to sell pcs back when these were new, and the one on the left at the start of the video, the case came with two sets of buttons, one blue / purple set and a pink set, so you could choose which you preferred :D
Seeing the sound and video cards (and 3D accelerators) being extracted from these old systems give me something of a geekish pleasure. Most likely because they were the items I lusted after during my formative computing years back in the 90's - happy days!
These machines always take me right back to my childhood! I can distinctly remember practically salivating over the Compaq Presario laptops on display at OfficeMax. Now I need to go buy a few of those… LOL
"Giant spider"? Here in Australia, we'd call that spider the 'cutest little thing'.
Office 2000 was a bug-fixed 97 (with a few extras). In all my current computers (7-64, Vista-64, Vista-32), I still use Office 2000 because it's still the fastest. Back in 1999, it didn't seem fast with two sticks of 8MB memory!
We had the exact case in the middle! Cool to see :)
me too!
Hi Mike. Came across your new channel and just wanted to respond with: you have a new follower 🌈
It’s always exciting finding old computers and see what’s inside them.
Keep up the good work and I shall be looking for more content 👍
i used to actually work on that stuff. i had so many s3 virge video cards. they were on special somewhere, so i put them in many computers i sold. the way the heat sink clips and ram clips worked are bringing back memories.
VLB IO cards were SUPER common back in the later 486 days. Especially with the AMD 586's, etc.
You know they are old, when they are yellow with a turbo button 😀
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@ about 14:00ish about the "failed rubber band". Those exact semi-clear rubber bands would often appear on new cables that were yet fresh in the bag. Some PC assemblers would just leave them on because it was easier and it also made it look neater with no effort.They Rarely were used to support or route cables far as I've ever seen in the day.
Thanks for sparing the spider's life.
Wish I had known of your channel years ago. Ran out of room, finally had to send all my ISA cards and a lot of my PCI and AGP cards off to a recycler. I -wish- (and no, I'm not going to try running a business) there had been a store that sold old parts I could have just handed the parts over to.
Amazing, what people throw in the trash, nowadays
Well I could really have done with not seeing that spider 🤣
Yo…. I am WAY more afraid of a dead cockroach than a live wolf spider. Kudos for being gentle with it. You just leveled up your karma!
You're cute. The most yellowed computer is the only one I consider vintage..I also like the look of this particular vintage case the best.
People are calling it ‘Vanilla Darth Vader’ and I’m living for it! 🤣
In 2006 when I was 12 a school shit down at the end of my street and threw away at least 200 computers. They took the ram out and cut the power cords. So I took a bunch home. I found a bunch of ram at the bottom of the garbage. I was lucky and they were 4 channel. So I added a whopping 1.5gb ram or so and a old atx card and made my first actual gaming PC. Coming from one of them ad emachines in the early 2000's I actually have a picture of it too. But my recycled school dell last like 5 years lmao
I used to build those computers when I worked in a mom and pop computer shop in the 90s. I can’t believe they are vintage now.
Neither can I 😂
@20:00 this dude boots up an XP machine and thinks “man somebody REALLY loves the rolling green hills in the California wine country”
…and whoever put together that Knoppix CD must REALLY love penguins!!
Amazing find, and great that you saved it from being lost in the landfill. Enjoyed that. Too cool that it was a Dx4-100 in that first one.
Got an SX25 here bought in 1994, last used and still has my CV on.
First pc i made up was a Pentium 800 in 2000, had to use jumpers.
Oh man, that took me back!! The first computer I ever bought (used) was a 486 DX 100 or maybe 133.... but it is long long gone now! Great video man!
Thanks! Man I wish I still had even a quarter of the systems and parts I used to have…
It is like going back in time... but feels like it wasn't that long ago, if you were me. I started getting into PC computers towards the end of 1994. Montgomery Wards, CompUSA, Fry's Electronics, Hard Drive Depot, Weird Stuff Electronics, to name a few.
In this area we have "bulk trash pickup" twice a year, where the city will haul away pretty much anything you put on the curb for free. People clean out their attics, basements, closets, etc, and just pile the stuff on the curb.
I occasionally see old systems like these, although the majority are usually Pentium systems from the likes of Dell. I used to bring them all home, but I have a hoarding problem and I realized that I was never going to do anything with them. I still have some older systems hanging around but nothing of this vintage anymore.
I've actually been hoping to find something much newer. My main system is quite old now and I don't have any money to buy something new. So I keep hoping to find something I can build into a newer, faster system for not much money. I found two Lenovo i5 systems, but only one of them posts. It has no hard drive, a weak power supply and it's a small form factor system, meaning there's not much expansion room. I wanted to put it in a larger case, but I have no idea what to get (what would fit the motherboard mounting holes). Each system had 16GB of memory (2x8GB, 4x4GB), and with four slots, I could have a max of 24GB. I also have a very large graphics card that I found, which I'd like to pair with it. The card is physically too big to fit in any of the cases I have (unless I cut out part of the hard drive bays), and recommends a minimum 500w power supply. Care to guess how many of those I have? I don't even know if the card works, although it looks in pristine condition, other than the dust.
I figured that at some point down the road I could upgrade the processor to an i7. It wouldn't be state of the art, but it would be more powerful than my current Core-2-Duo system.
We still have lots of houses that are damaged from hurricane Michael in 2018 that are still being cleaned out. These were on the curb of one such house. That’s also how I found the four TRS-80s. Your system is probably either a micro-ATX or mini-ITX form factor. What is the model number?
@@miketech1024 Thanks for the reply. The computer is a Lenovo ThinkCentre M900. The motherboard power connector is only 10 pin, but I see that there are 24 pin to 10 pin ATX adapter cables. Note: Please don't let this fool you into thinking that I really know what I'm talking about, I'm just repeating the description. If you put a pile of parts in front of me, I can assemble them into a working system, but as far as just knowing what parts you need, and which ones will work together properly, not so much.
The graphics card that I hoped to use (assuming it works), is a Sapphire HD7870 XT 2G DDR5 PCI-E.
@@lurkerrekrul If it has PCI-E slots, then it is indeed a micro-ATX motherboard. They use the same screw hole pattern so they should mount up in a standard ATX case. You probably won't have much luck finding an I/O shield, but that doesn't matter much. You might be able to adapt the I/O shield from the micro-ATX case. Standard to 10-pin ATX power adapters can be had for under $10, though I've never used one. You might have to trace out the front panel pins that lead to the power switch/LED and HD activity light if they're not clearly marked. As for the graphics card, it *should* work as it shouldn't draw much power from PCI-E itself, just as long as the power supply is up to the task.
@@miketech1024 Of course none of the pins on the motherboard headers are marked. However I found a diagram of a Lenovo front panel connector that seems to match., The same pins are used and the wires seem to be going to the pins indicated in the diagram.
Unfortunately I forgot the golden rule that noting is ever simple. Lenovo used a proprietary connector for the front USB ports and audio connections (mic and headphones). It's like a mini expansion slot on the board and the end of the cable has a small card-edge connector. People make adapters for this to give you a "standard" USB connector, although I'm not sure what kind of USB standard includes audio as well. Just search for Lenovo 28-pin adapter.
The real problem is that Lenovo placed it directly in line with the PCI-E slots. For most cards this wouldn't be an issue, but the graphics card is so long that the end of it goes past that socket. If plugged into the upper slot, the heatsink and plastic casing hit the connector. If plugged into the bottom slot, the board itself will hit the connector. It will clear it if nothing is plugged into that connector, but then I lose the two USB 3.0 ports and the audio connectors.
To use it, I would need a very low-profile right-angle connector with the right pin spacing. They probably make such a thing as a generic connector, but probably not one specifically for Lenovo motherboards. And even if I managed to come up with a way to connect to that socket, I don't know what any of the pins do. I haven't been able to find a pinout for it.
I know they make extender cables that plug into a PCI-e slot and let you mount a card somewhere else, but I've also read that they might not work correctly. And of course, the slot end is always mounted straight in the end of the cable, ensuring that you can't just put the card in an empty expansion slot/bay below the edge of the motherboard.
Someone with more skill would probably de-solder the proprietary connector from the motherboard and mount kind of low-profile standard connector, but I'd be afraid of ruining the board. Someone with skill could probably buy the adapter, cut off the pins and reconnect them on a right-angle. I'm fully confident that if I tried this, no matter how carefully I connected everything, it wouldn't work.
LOL I got you, I would also loose my shit if I saw 3 old computers at the side of the road!
At systems don't come by cheap less so free.
Congratulations they seem to be in excellent shape
Hi, the second mainboard shown is a PCChips M577 Super Socket 7. It has 1MB Pipelined Burst Synchronous L2 cache and supports AMD K62 upto 550Mhz.
I appreciate that you point out things and mention what they are. I'm slowly learning all this stuff to eventually take my first A+ test. Seeing you troubleshoot and open all these is very interesting to me:)
I love you Mike ❤
That last one looks like an Aopen case..love those
I think I can speak for the spider when I say Thank you!. That got you a new follower 😊
Thanks! I feel like I owe the spider royalties 🤣
@@miketech1024 🤣 I'm sure he would take Crickets and Locusts as payment 😂
Great video, that 486 mobo and chip is an amazing find.
Thanks so much! Yeah that system is definitely the gem of the three.
I remember working on these old AT computers, and when the hard drive would get too full it would slow waay down, because there wasn't enough room for the paging file in secondary memory.
The overall detail inspection of the hardware and the manner they are individually installed, speaks for the tidious ways the hardware items are installed. Some designs of the brand for desktop only entails you to slide the motherboard and install the specs and you're good to go..its different when your'e the one doing the details, or trying to pull the programs and install the softwares as well for the hardwares to run smooth. The soundcard and video card there is also catchy, you have to configure it first manually, then that's the time it can ran, depending on the O.S as well as the numerous version of Software that needs to be installed, different types of RAM, DDR2, DDR3, DDR4 and different types and sets of CORES depending on the owners need for speed or assertiveness of the Gadget and ports for them to communicate the way they should be. That Sound that comes out is a sign that the computer is near its repair state, so many wires and ports that has to be placed, including the dongle cables. The BIOS set up is also there to make everything as smooth and up/and running from any lost sector if there is a bad sector. Very good, the motherboard is up and running smooth the way it should. Thank you PCWorld for the complete reference. PLDT SME Nation../././/Generalists/Manage Care/././/,G.M Industries..DON'T DELETE, this is IMPORTANT. Thank you
This is the first time I've seen you on UA-cam, But I instantly subscribed
Thanks!
Fun Fact the Turbo button actually slowed down the CPU instead of actually Speeding it up
New to your channel, really enjoyed the video. You've got yourself a new subscriber.
On the CD drive, it's probably one of the belts. That's the most common thing I've been having to replace on IDE CD drives lately.
Most likely. Sounds like it’s slipping and preventing the spindle from fully engaging with the disc. If I find enough stuff to fill out a ‘repair-a-thon’ video, this drive will certainly be in it!
Yeah, they stretch, or they decompose and turn into some kind of disgusting substance.
I want my "Travel" theme back
Love your videos very interesting
The first one when you plugged in the monitor “Keyboard error” and Press F1 to Resume lol
Sweet ! reminds me of my dumpster diving era, between 2011 and 2016 I was going about once a week to the nearby recycling center and usually came back with a computer or more. Even then AT stuff was very scarce but I did snatch some really awesome parts. I miss that so much, but it was the guardian of the recycling center who let me grab stuff, when he stopped working there it was much harder to get permission.
This happened to me once basicly and it felt like getting into some kind of old console, I found tons of stuff, like, home made programs with stuff like, book inventories, to-do lists from like the 80's with stuff like " record macgyver" and stuff like that,
It is oddly fascinating. They’re like time capsules for data.
5:42 DX4-100, LFG!!! Man, watching you slide the heatsink on and off... I completely forgot what it used to be like back in the day lol.
I nearly did a dance when I saw that CPU! 🤣