Nice video and thorough explanation of the techniques. I've sparred with conditioned muay thai fighters and they can mix things up quickly. I've been fortunate to train with resisting partners for many years, so joint locks, throws and BJJ comes naturally. What I've seen in your videos is about the best demonstrations of ninjitsu out there. I'm here in Sacramento, CA. and I wish there were instructors that teach ninjitsu with the kind of training you give to your students. Nice job.
I've watched a few videos from this instructor. He is very good. He is incorporating wrestling into his Ninjitsu techniques. Not pure. But intended to be effective. More instructors should follow his lead. We all have a great deal to learn from one another. I commend him.
My teacher's teacher is Doron Navon Shihan. Before 1988 everybody in Bujinkan sparred. Hatsumi's book about Togakure ryu has many images of his students then sparring with boxing gloves etc.
OSSU! Great Technique Sheriff! People commenting negatively should take more time to reflect. Much respect to Akban, however as a ninjutsu black belt and MMA competitor, I feel that these particular techniques displayed are particularly good for certain circumstances within a street situation or any situation involving a jacket. Sweaty arms and wild Muay Thai full plume control pulling and pushing with knees coming at you from under and over to the crown of your head, should be taken into consideration. The gi gives more options and traction to grip. If there are no jackets worn in this situation, I feel the best defense is the simplest. Simply turn your waist with your shoulder pressing into your opponents elbow or forearm while raising your arm parallel to opponents shoulder or neck (Attack is suggested right away) will make the assailant's wrist lose grip. Quickly in one motion apply your desired follow up attack (crossed arm corid artery strike, chi no kata fudoken uppercut, upward chin push, ura gyaku, hon gyaku, musha dori, ganseki nagi, teep kick, overlapping elbow strike, counter muay thai clinch, sutemi waza, etc) take your pick, henka is limitless at that point. This is both a Thai and Ninpo technique fused by turning, arm raising and attacking at the same time.
Akban, love the video, love the techniques demonstrated and even more so how you linked them together as "if this one fails go to this one, and so on...", but I would love to see a video done, showing how you would deal with the knee strikes that would no doubt start coming in, if you didn't get to the half clinch quick enough.
I practice Goshin Jitsu, and we share techniques with a Ninjitsu black belt from another school. I like alot of your techniques. I will show your clinch technique to my Sensei next course. Thank you for your well explained video. With respect, I wish you a nice day.
Hello, I am the moderator of the AKBAN academy on UA-cam. My teacher, Yossi Sheriff, the one who speaks at the video has been an avid Muai Thai student for many years. He always says that Muai Thai is the best MA he knows for striking. I re-watched the video again now, I found no derogatory remarks against Muai Thai - on the contrary, the opening technique that precedes every move has been a favorit Fairtex Muai Thai move from one of their camps.
This would work really well against an opponent standing still and not striking back. All martial arts have effective and ineffective techniques. But there is a massive difference to light sparring in a dojo and a full contact fight. Everything changes when stress, fatigue and pain is introduced to the body.
Agree 100%. These are the kind of comments that come from people who have competed...The rest of the people just believe whatever is presented to them in a youtube video and say "it is not the art, it is the artist", "this is too dangerous for competiton" and the usual excuses.
I meant that I agree 100% with Ashley Smith....indeed sparring and competition against someone who does not know you neither cares about you, are worlds apart. True Wing Chun, you said that "the masterclass level combat fighters get past so called impossible spots". Who is a masterclass level fighter if not the very same people that fight professionaly for a living? I mean, if a technique is effective, it will present it self in some form of competition.
Video or did not happen.What is the name of the supposed experienced fighter and where is his online record? If you are so deadly why you are not in the ufc getting payed the millions of McGregor? By the way, kicking knee caps DO NOT RESULT in broken knees. professional ufc fighters had used knee cap kicks against their opponents and unlike what many people see in the movies, no knees were broken and actually were less effective than the usual muay thai low kicks. Unless of course, they did not know the "deadly" version of kicking kness because they are just "tv fighers" (irony)...Claims like your's are contantly done on youtube...However, there is never a real fight video or even a light sparring match to prove such astoninshing abilities. And the comment "Ufc is basic full contact sparring" shows you have never competed. If you did , you would know that NOTHING is like competing against a complete stranger that is trained and has every motive to kick your ass in front of an audience.
Yep, thanks. Why not actually. My instructor spent years doing MT and the solutions he learned influenced his Ninjutsu. The beginning technique of opening the clinch from below is borrowed, with full credits, from Muai Thai
At last, a nak muay that understands that the clinch opening is standard. As for the rest of the techniques, we think they work ok in our sparring, many of us are MT partitioners. But of course, many of the technique we allow ourselves in sparring are not legal in an arena. Respect
I myself am a ninjitsu practitioner at Falcon Martial Arts academy of Florida. I honestly can say these methods do work. Though, we mix bujinkan ninjitsu with kali escrima and jeet kune do. My teacher has sparred with people from plenty of different backgrounds, even a very skilled U.S. marine in our class and has never lost a fight. The thing is these techniques do work, except the techniques you see in most video are the beginner techniques. The ones we use in a fight you literally cannot see
It's so funny how so many people are hating. He is doing a demonstration, the same way BJJ instructors demonstrate techniques. Look at Gracie Academy and see they ALSO demonstrate in slow motion to emphasize the subtle movements that make transitions most effective.
You are right. If you look at MT fights, you'll see the correct posture, you described, deteriorating in no time into something with more space. It is taking advantage of this space that is described here
Sydney Cut the knee (like cutting a kick) or sink down and scoop it if you can. If not, take the one knee on the muscles of your abs by turning then pick the ankle as the leg is retracting
the third one is probably the most important one, the positioning of the hands, it should be pointing fingers upwards cupping the skull, that way you don't overexert your energy by using your biceps. you can control the opponent with just the movement of the wrist, while he overstresses his neckmuscles. please note that this is just a friendly tip and no disrespect to you or your art is intended
Well let's be fair guys as a MMA practitioner myself, I believe all techniques have a place in the arsenal, granted being specific movement, spacing, timing, and advantageous circumstances there's an unlimited number of variations and possibilities any technique could happen, and the most obvious would be 2guys really fighting for that dominant clinch position, you'd have to deal with breaking their foundation before considering anything else, but I believe every technique is just another option, and if practiced well any one can do it, also everyone will do it slightly altered to their own style as well. So it's really user based just an option
great explanation. I have been training for seven years in martial arts and I deeply respect every fighter and their choice of style. I have always believed that there is no superior style only superior technique. if you train for two days while another trains for five that person will be better prepared for a fight. my respect to you.
+xXxsightsxXx Nice, till that head flip does not work and he just grabs on and now he has your back.... the guy forgot to mention when clinched you are taking elbows and especially head butts! You would be happy to get a knee because most people fail at it and the guy is on one leg and you will probably fall over together! I think these multi sequence moves depend on the guy holding still....you better stun him real good first if you want to use that and those body shots are not doing much from there.
I completely agree with Erhan. Also, These Ninjitsu techniques work best along with elements of surprise and trickery, very CQC oriented and I wouldn't mind at all having these techniques mastered in case I ever had the opportunity to execute them. Very unlikely to see this work in the ring though. After fighters have squared off at least 90% of surprise is gone and Muay Thai is king of the ring.
Out of respect I won't post it here, but Chris Thornton from SBG in Portland did a lecture at PSU that sums up the difference between traditional martial arts and fighting arts. It's a great lecture, and he's quite respectful of traditional arts. It's available on youtube.
Some interesting ideas. I love the combination of judo with MuayThai. Judo offers some options outside the rules of Muay Thai that people typically may not expect so it makes the clinch game much deeper and complete.I will explore some of these with my students.
I see a lot of movies and "staged" fights where where someone gets the "thai clinch" on the other guy and begins a volley of knees. The guy being kneed blocks with what looks like both arms , almost as if hes letting the guy knee his palms. A good example if near the end of the first "Never Back Down" movie. Near the end of the last fight scene Jake blocks the knees in this fashion. Does that actually work?
very nice knowlegde, i did grow up with muay thai. and we got similiar ways to free from full clinch but there are to many steps.. Primitive + functional should be the way and should explain what i mean.
great video,I have the following question tho:in judo I am not allowed to to uppercut the side of the body from the half clinch,would you be so kind to suggest another effective way to get out of the "his-elbow-on-my-chest-is-preventing-me-from-doing-techniques" situation?besides maybe poking my opponent with a thumb:o Thank you in advance
Hi, I am the AKBAN UA-cam channel moderator, My name is David. As you can guess I am from Israel and like most AKBAN guys I have been doing mainly Ninjutsu, but also MT and Judo
Ninjutsu is technically more of an umbrella term used for different styles favoured by Japanese assassins (who were often trained in ways similar to the samurai). Ninjutsu involves weapons, striking attacks and elements of jiu-jitsu. You'll also see similarities to karate and other Japanese martial arts styles.
Wonderful techniques Sensei I enjoy every video I've seen, thanks for posting them... You have my utmost respect & support, I will be sharing this technique tonight with my class...
Where did you study Muay Thai? I'm trained through Ajarn Chai and we do not clinch like this at all. We always grab them by the back of the neck, pull them in, clench, and then our heads are essentially side by side with our head resting against the clinch. The only way to escape is with a throw, clinch reversal, or popping the elbows. The head is completely trapped at the neck. This also allows us to easily sway them back and forth.
Again, all depends on where the elbow is. If it's in collar position, that will be somewhat difficult unless you somehow break or release the clinch. Still, whatever you can get in is what I say.
What I'm saying is you'd either have to be exceptionally aware of your opponents bodily positions or to have practiced in the dojo for decades to be able to pull this off. There are more brutal and barbaric ways to end a clinch in a truly dangerous situation which would be more ideal for those who aren't 'masters'.
***** I never claimed either. Was clearly discussing more ideal choices for those who aren't as experienced as those people you suggested. Without the experience you're far less likely to be able to use these techniques in a combat situation, so I was suggesting it might be better to do something with more chance of causing quick, brutal damage. Unless you train in these movements constantly they won't come naturally and will be a conscious choice, which will distract you from the key objective; doing whatever you can to defeat your opponent and get to safety. "you'd either have to be exceptionally aware of your opponents bodily positions or to have practiced in the dojo for decades to be able to pull this off", "which would be more ideal for those who aren't 'masters'". Don't be so defensive over apparent attacks to your ego or style(?) Nobody can cause you more harm than your own unguarded thoughts. I hope you know that the majority of martial masters do not think as you have just spoken.
I've found that MT fighters win primarily based on their physical conditioning and training regimen. You take 100 muay thai fighters and line them up with 100 TKD/Karate/judo guys and you will see a massive difference in muscularity, fat percentages, cardio, ability to withstand punishment, etc. In sparring they are relentless adversaries and are extremely difficult to throw since they allow throws in their fighting style. Once on the ground however...
I agree that a better way to counter the clinch would be to learn and use the thai clinch counters of thai boxing itself. They have been designed to work (hopefully, as being in the clinch is not good and getting out can be tough) with constantly resisting skilled fighters. Applying street tactics when possible and effective as well.
its the fighters, and not the system. Ninjitsu is very good martial arts and is amazing, I myself train in karate, kickboxing, muay thai, freestyle, bjj, grappling, etc etc and Ive taken a ninjitsu seminar and I know it's freaking awesome. Again, its the fighter and not the system.
Thats great......when I watch vids like this it reminds me that I know nothing...(just started Judo this year at age 45)....never too young to start hopefully.....the thing that attracts me to this discipline is I not really interested in going through the whole belt grade stuff....I just want to learn how to handle myself in a situation...
I was a student of Wing Chun Kung Fu for over 8 years. I understand the mentality of ferocity overcoming technique, but I have yet to find a martial art that compensates for the scramble that occurs in real fights more than BJJ. The students that are helping demonstrate these techniques are just not scrambling for position, making these moves look far better than they would be in actual combat.
+Jeremiah Beene which is kind of the point of a technique demonstration. I have never seen the other guy fighting back when a bjj/grappling technique was demonstrated. And know what: it always looks much better than in a real grappling situation. Surprising, isn´t it?
They practice these movements when sparring as well and if you practice a certain grab long enough you will be able to do it quicker until you can finally pull it off against non suspecting people on the street. These videos are very interesting to watch. I like the skirt xD
im just gonna say this its a good technique but i am in muay thai and we keep our elbows completely locked while like this so pushing our elbows isnt going to work the escape i use is either pushing their face back and then going into the shoulder lock or grabbing the back of their neck and rotating throwing them to the ground
With respect, this collection of throws starts by opening the clinch with the oposite hand from below. This full clinch release is a Muai Thai technique that my instructor uses as a prologue for all the other throws, he always emphasizes the superiority of MT in striking. So, maybe this technique will not work, the opponent will do many things, you are right, but the technique at it's core is a Muai Thai technique so I believe these MT fighters know what they are doing, my friend.
These guys never practiced any of these techniques against anyone who uses these techniques in full contact fighting or who have at least 1 year wrestling training. This will not work against a trained Muay Thai fighter, MMA fighter, grappler, wrestler, etc. I don't think they guys even spar. But, perhaps against a novice, this technique may work simply as an unexpected move
***** here's a link The roundhouse kick (mawashi) - Ernesto Hoost in Akban in it is Ernesto Hoost, Mr. perfect, teaching a seminar in AKBAN. maybe this can serve as a clue that we are know our MT. Respectfully
AKBAN Nice video, as a Muay Thai instructor and competitor it is refreshing to see positions analysed by other perspectives. Your entry and clinch loosening is similar to some Thai techniques, and your applications of throws and upper body manipulations are worth exploring. Thanks for sharing! (for those who doubt another arts effectiveness, nobody thought Judo was good vs wrestling, MT or MMA until Rhonda Rousey came along.)
Ray White Thanks. You are one of the only guys commenting who actually show some sense. Many of us are experienced MT practitioners too and we check our techniques with the top instructors in the world The roundhouse kick (mawashi) - Ernesto Hoost in Akban
For the record, I saw a video where Anderson Silva gave part of a seminar and brought up a grappling counter to the clinch similar to the ones shown in this vid. He said something like, "And this one for my friends who are great grapplers."
+Richard Harrow Everyone in this thread should go back and watch the Anderson Silvia Rich Franklin fight .Train against those moves or the move simply will not work!
Just my opinion......The best thing here is to push forward the clinch to reduce the space even more and break the balance point of the muay thai fighter. By staying there and do a technique with more than 1 movement, for sure you will receive a knee to the body or the face.
It doesnt make the vid of the techniques bad, but indeed, the clinch shown is not a proper muaythai clinch. I think the most important point not mentioned by combuzzll, is that the fingertips should touch the top of the head, creating leverage thus making it almost impossible to keep posture. Makes countering it more realistic. :)
Nice video and thorough explanation of the techniques. I've sparred with conditioned muay thai fighters and they can mix things up quickly. I've been fortunate to train with resisting partners for many years, so joint locks, throws and BJJ comes naturally. What I've seen in your videos is about the best demonstrations of ninjitsu out there. I'm here in Sacramento, CA. and I wish there were instructors that teach ninjitsu with the kind of training you give to your students. Nice job.
I've watched a few videos from this instructor. He is very good. He is incorporating wrestling into his Ninjitsu techniques. Not pure. But intended to be effective. More instructors should follow his lead. We all have a great deal to learn from one another. I commend him.
Thank God for people of reasoning. you sir are part of the small amount of people who are realist when it comes to fighting.
My teacher's teacher is Doron Navon Shihan.
Before 1988 everybody in Bujinkan sparred.
Hatsumi's book about Togakure ryu has many images of his students then sparring with boxing gloves etc.
We are glad that these videos are useful. Thanks!
Great teaching; I really enjoy the explanation and application of each move. Well appreciated.
I loved his Ganseki nage attack! Awesome application!
OSSU! Great Technique Sheriff! People commenting negatively should take more time to reflect. Much respect to Akban, however as a ninjutsu black belt and MMA competitor, I feel that these particular techniques displayed are particularly good for certain circumstances within a street situation or any situation involving a jacket. Sweaty arms and wild Muay Thai full plume control pulling and pushing with knees coming at you from under and over to the crown of your head, should be taken into consideration. The gi gives more options and traction to grip. If there are no jackets worn in this situation, I feel the best defense is the simplest. Simply turn your waist with your shoulder pressing into your opponents elbow or forearm while raising your arm parallel to opponents shoulder or neck (Attack is suggested right away) will make the assailant's wrist lose grip. Quickly in one motion apply your desired follow up attack (crossed arm corid artery strike, chi no kata fudoken uppercut, upward chin push, ura gyaku, hon gyaku, musha dori, ganseki nagi, teep kick, overlapping elbow strike, counter muay thai clinch, sutemi waza, etc) take your pick, henka is limitless at that point. This is both a Thai and Ninpo technique fused by turning, arm raising and attacking at the same time.
Straight up man! I wish more bujinkan dojos had the same courage to investigate techniques like this.
Akban, love the video, love the techniques demonstrated and even more so how you linked them together as "if this one fails go to this one, and so on...", but I would love to see a video done, showing how you would deal with the knee strikes that would no doubt start coming in, if you didn't get to the half clinch quick enough.
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I practice Goshin Jitsu, and we share techniques with a Ninjitsu black belt from another school. I like alot of your techniques. I will show your clinch technique to my Sensei next course. Thank you for your well explained video. With respect, I wish you a nice day.
Good stuff, great application of these throws from this position.
I allways get amazed by your videos...fantastic job..much Respect
Thanks Ernest!
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Hello, I am the moderator of the AKBAN academy on UA-cam. My teacher, Yossi Sheriff, the one who speaks at the video has been an avid Muai Thai student for many years.
He always says that Muai Thai is the best MA he knows for striking. I re-watched the video again now, I found no derogatory remarks against Muai Thai - on the contrary, the opening technique that precedes every move has been a favorit Fairtex Muai Thai move from one of their camps.
Must try with Real Muay Thai Fighter.
With respect.
I beg to differ, Sir, and this short conversation between us is the proof.
Keep training, my friend
Inventive concept and design of clinch, excellent technically application. Great Sensei!
Thanks Joe
Yossi! This is great work!! Well communicated, excellent video quality. Thank you!
This would work really well against an opponent standing still and not striking back. All martial arts have effective and ineffective techniques. But there is a massive difference to light sparring in a dojo and a full contact fight. Everything changes when stress, fatigue and pain is introduced to the body.
Agree 100%. These are the kind of comments that come from people who have competed...The rest of the people just believe whatever is presented to them in a youtube video and say "it is not the art, it is the artist", "this is too dangerous for competiton" and the usual excuses.
I meant that I agree 100% with Ashley Smith....indeed sparring and competition against someone who does not know you neither cares about you, are worlds apart. True Wing Chun, you said that "the masterclass level combat fighters get past so called impossible spots". Who is a masterclass level fighter if not the very same people that fight professionaly for a living? I mean, if a technique is effective, it will present it self in some form of competition.
Video or did not happen.What is the name of the supposed experienced fighter and where is his online record?
If you are so deadly why you are not in the ufc getting payed the millions of McGregor? By the way, kicking knee caps DO NOT RESULT in broken knees. professional ufc fighters had used knee cap kicks against their opponents and unlike what many people see in the movies, no knees were broken and actually were less effective than the usual muay thai low kicks. Unless of course, they did not know the "deadly" version of kicking kness because they are just "tv fighers" (irony)...Claims like your's are contantly done on youtube...However, there is never a real fight video or even a light sparring match to prove such astoninshing abilities. And the comment "Ufc is basic full contact sparring" shows you have never competed. If you did , you would know that NOTHING is like competing against a complete stranger that is trained and has every motive to kick your ass in front of an audience.
Yep, thanks. Why not actually.
My instructor spent years doing MT and the solutions he learned influenced his Ninjutsu. The beginning technique of opening the clinch from below is borrowed, with full credits, from Muai Thai
At last, a nak muay that understands that the clinch opening is standard.
As for the rest of the techniques, we think they work ok in our sparring, many of us are MT partitioners.
But of course, many of the technique we allow ourselves in sparring are not legal in an arena.
Respect
I love this ❤️ style practical and application for real life.
Exactly. Thanks!
We respect your opinion, we differ in perspective.
The opening up of the clinch is a MT technique, so of course it will work
I myself am a ninjitsu practitioner at Falcon Martial Arts academy of Florida. I honestly can say these methods do work. Though, we mix bujinkan ninjitsu with kali escrima and jeet kune do. My teacher has sparred with people from plenty of different backgrounds, even a very skilled U.S. marine in our class and has never lost a fight. The thing is these techniques do work, except the techniques you see in most video are the beginner techniques. The ones we use in a fight you literally cannot see
It's so funny how so many people are hating. He is doing a demonstration, the same way BJJ instructors demonstrate techniques. Look at Gracie Academy and see they ALSO demonstrate in slow motion to emphasize the subtle movements that make transitions most effective.
As the moderator of the AKBAN UA-cam channel, I can say at least one thing, I read you
You are right. If you look at MT fights, you'll see the correct posture, you described, deteriorating in no time into something with more space.
It is taking advantage of this space that is described here
How would you deal with the incoming barrage of knees though, because I seem to remember thats the immediate follow up of a clinch in MT
I think it depends on who is clinching you. At least you have some options with this technique. I gonna try this at my BJJ class tonight.
Sydney
Cut the knee (like cutting a kick) or sink down and scoop it if you can. If not, take the one knee on the muscles of your abs by turning then pick the ankle as the leg is retracting
Position (escape the clinch) before submission (hit, throw or break)
Awesome!!! Thanks for sharing!!! Warmest regards from Bolivia. My utmost respect for you and the Akban School and its members :)
the third one is probably the most important one, the positioning of the hands, it should be pointing fingers upwards cupping the skull, that way you don't overexert your energy by using your biceps.
you can control the opponent with just the movement of the wrist, while he overstresses his neckmuscles.
please note that this is just a friendly tip and no disrespect to you or your art is intended
Well let's be fair guys as a MMA practitioner myself,
I believe all techniques have a place in the arsenal, granted being specific movement, spacing, timing, and advantageous circumstances there's an unlimited number of variations and possibilities any technique could happen, and the most obvious would be 2guys really fighting for that dominant clinch position, you'd have to deal with breaking their foundation before considering anything else, but I believe every technique is just another option, and if practiced well any one can do it, also everyone will do it slightly altered to their own style as well. So it's really user based just an option
xXxsightsxXx Good explanation my friend! Ous!
great explanation. I have been training for seven years in martial arts and I deeply respect every fighter and their choice of style. I have always believed that there is no superior style only superior technique. if you train for two days while another trains for five that person will be better prepared for a fight. my respect to you.
+xXxsightsxXx Nice, till that head flip does not work and he just grabs on and now he has your back.... the guy forgot to mention when clinched you are taking elbows and especially head butts! You would be happy to get a knee because most people fail at it and the guy is on one leg and you will probably fall over together! I think these multi sequence moves depend on the guy holding still....you better stun him real good first if you want to use that and those body shots are not doing much from there.
I will never diss a martial art as long it is practical. Again nice vid.
I completely agree with Erhan. Also, These Ninjitsu techniques work best along with elements of surprise and trickery, very CQC oriented and I wouldn't mind at all having these techniques mastered in case I ever had the opportunity to execute them. Very unlikely to see this work in the ring though. After fighters have squared off at least 90% of surprise is gone and Muay Thai is king of the ring.
That's pretty speculative given that Ninjitsu is simply a composite of fighting techniques; which could include Thai boxing.
Out of respect I won't post it here, but Chris Thornton from SBG in Portland did a lecture at PSU that sums up the difference between traditional martial arts and fighting arts. It's a great lecture, and he's quite respectful of traditional arts. It's available on youtube.
Great art of discipline. Nice video.
Some interesting ideas. I love the combination of judo with MuayThai. Judo offers some options outside the rules of Muay Thai that people typically may not expect so it makes the clinch game much deeper and complete.I will explore some of these with my students.
Practice safely and keep on training
You hit it on the mark!
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Sure thing, Thanks for the kind words. I'll tell my instructor.
Keep training my friend.
Thanks for your perspective here,
Tony,
AKBAN channel moderator
I see a lot of movies and "staged" fights where where someone gets the "thai clinch" on the other guy and begins a volley of knees. The guy being kneed blocks with what looks like both arms , almost as if hes letting the guy knee his palms. A good example if near the end of the first "Never Back Down" movie. Near the end of the last fight scene Jake blocks the knees in this fashion. Does that actually work?
very nice knowlegde, i did grow up with muay thai. and we got similiar ways to free from full clinch but there are to many steps.. Primitive + functional should be the way and should explain what i mean.
Beautiful and informative demonstration. Thank you.
Channel moderator here. We all do Muai Thai.
With respect
thank you so much this series on clinching has really inspired me today!
The technique to open the clinch is Muai Thai. The reason the clinch is loose is so that you can pick inside
Maybe searching google for: "AKBAN Ninjutsu portal" would open other perspectives on the efficiency of NInjutsu striking.
I never saw a proper thai clinch lock here. Try it on someone who really knows Muay Thai!
Yup the Muay Thai fighter clinches he has his kneez in his gut.
Muaythai probably fight like this but don’t forget about knee .it very dangerous if you let it . Anyway I very love you channel . Thankyou
Ok
great video,I have the following question tho:in judo I am not allowed to to uppercut the side of the body from the half clinch,would you be so kind to suggest another effective way to get out of the "his-elbow-on-my-chest-is-preventing-me-from-doing-techniques" situation?besides maybe poking my opponent with a thumb:o
Thank you in advance
Thank you my friend,
I'll tell this to my instructor. If you can, please share this also online.
Keep training.
That depends on what you define as Ninjutsu. You can google: "AKBAN Ninjutsu" to see how we define it.
Very Good Explained … The different angles helped to understand that ✌️😎
Thanks 🙏🏻
nice demonstration, do you have a video demonstration against low kicks as well?
Looks simple and effective
Hi, I am the AKBAN UA-cam channel moderator, My name is David.
As you can guess I am from Israel and like most AKBAN guys I have been doing mainly Ninjutsu, but also MT and Judo
More to come. Train safely, my friend
any technique will work if your uke just stands there. make it dynamic and resistance. true resistance and try this.
+Chris Piggott that's true. But without gloves it is easier to move.
Ninjutsu is technically more of an umbrella term used for different styles favoured by Japanese assassins (who were often trained in ways similar to the samurai). Ninjutsu involves weapons, striking attacks and elements of jiu-jitsu. You'll also see similarities to karate and other Japanese martial arts styles.
Wonderful techniques Sensei I enjoy every video I've seen, thanks for posting them... You have my utmost respect & support, I will be sharing this technique tonight with my class...
The technique y instructor shows start with MT technique. So of course the beginning will work against a MT clinch.
Sir, we, at AKBAN, reserve the right to not answer anyone whose respect and manners are below those of a child in our dojo.
Depends. If the clinch is tight and the elbow is in your chest, you might not be able to.
Where did you study Muay Thai? I'm trained through Ajarn Chai and we do not clinch like this at all. We always grab them by the back of the neck, pull them in, clench, and then our heads are essentially side by side with our head resting against the clinch. The only way to escape is with a throw, clinch reversal, or popping the elbows. The head is completely trapped at the neck. This also allows us to easily sway them back and forth.
Great instructional video! Thank you!
All depends on the two fighters involved, as always. As a fun fact, not everyone advertises their style in a fight.
Again, all depends on where the elbow is. If it's in collar position, that will be somewhat difficult unless you somehow break or release the clinch.
Still, whatever you can get in is what I say.
I like this in concept, but it depends on a lot of "ifs" or assumptions on what the opponent will do for it to work.
What I'm saying is you'd either have to be exceptionally aware of your opponents bodily positions or to have practiced in the dojo for decades to be able to pull this off. There are more brutal and barbaric ways to end a clinch in a truly dangerous situation which would be more ideal for those who aren't 'masters'.
***** I never claimed either. Was clearly discussing more ideal choices for those who aren't as experienced as those people you suggested. Without the experience you're far less likely to be able to use these techniques in a combat situation, so I was suggesting it might be better to do something with more chance of causing quick, brutal damage. Unless you train in these movements constantly they won't come naturally and will be a conscious choice, which will distract you from the key objective; doing whatever you can to defeat your opponent and get to safety.
"you'd either have to be exceptionally aware of your opponents bodily positions or to have practiced in the dojo for decades to be able to pull this off", "which would be more ideal for those who aren't 'masters'".
Don't be so defensive over apparent attacks to your ego or style(?) Nobody can cause you more harm than your own unguarded thoughts. I hope you know that the majority of martial masters do not think as you have just spoken.
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You're 100% right, but I was specificly talking about MMA because he was.
We are also MT fighters. We have deep respect for our art
awesome well that shows us all the standards that are reflected in the qualification process of this style.
Thank you my friend. I will tell yossi. I think the video photographer did a great job too.
Neat stuff, cool to see all the different approaches and options. Thank you
I've found that MT fighters win primarily based on their physical conditioning and training regimen. You take 100 muay thai fighters and line them up with 100 TKD/Karate/judo guys and you will see a massive difference in muscularity, fat percentages, cardio, ability to withstand punishment, etc.
In sparring they are relentless adversaries and are extremely difficult to throw since they allow throws in their fighting style. Once on the ground however...
I agree that a better way to counter the clinch would be to learn and use the thai clinch counters of thai boxing itself. They have been designed to work (hopefully, as being in the clinch is not good and getting out can be tough) with constantly resisting skilled fighters. Applying street tactics when possible and effective as well.
its the fighters, and not the system. Ninjitsu is very good martial arts and is amazing, I myself train in karate, kickboxing, muay thai, freestyle, bjj, grappling, etc etc and Ive taken a ninjitsu seminar and I know it's freaking awesome. Again, its the fighter and not the system.
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Seems to work well on compliant training partners who don't know how to do the muay thai technique properly O_o
Just wondering if I see technichal absorbtion from Krav Maga, Systema, and Silat in what you're doing? Thanks, great video's.
Thanks for the good words. I did not learn any of these martial arts, but still there might be some similarities or Convergent evolution.
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We view the situation exactly the same. Thanks!
Thats great......when I watch vids like this it reminds me that I know nothing...(just started Judo this year at age 45)....never too young to start hopefully.....the thing that attracts me to this discipline is I not really interested in going through the whole belt grade stuff....I just want to learn how to handle myself in a situation...
I was a student of Wing Chun Kung Fu for over 8 years. I understand the mentality of ferocity overcoming technique, but I have yet to find a martial art that compensates for the scramble that occurs in real fights more than BJJ. The students that are helping demonstrate these techniques are just not scrambling for position, making these moves look far better than they would be in actual combat.
+Jeremiah Beene which is kind of the point of a technique demonstration. I have never seen the other guy fighting back when a bjj/grappling technique was demonstrated. And know what: it always looks much better than in a real grappling situation. Surprising, isn´t it?
They practice these movements when sparring as well and if you practice a certain grab long enough you will be able to do it quicker until you can finally pull it off against non suspecting people on the street.
These videos are very interesting to watch.
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Channel moderator here, this is a tutorial, a tutorial.
Most of our veterans have been doing MT
There's so much more to the Muay Thai clinch game than the standard plum..and knees. And it happens fast once control has been established.
im just gonna say this its a good technique but i am in muay thai and we keep our elbows completely locked while like this so pushing our elbows isnt going to work the escape i use is either pushing their face back and then going into the shoulder lock or grabbing the back of their neck and rotating throwing them to the ground
Use the moves when they can be these are few of the thousands of possibilities of fighting movements
This is called practice. First practice everything then you apply.
With respect, this collection of throws starts by opening the clinch with the oposite hand from below.
This full clinch release is a Muai Thai technique that my instructor uses as a prologue for all the other throws, he always emphasizes the superiority of MT in striking.
So, maybe this technique will not work, the opponent will do many things, you are right, but the technique at it's core is a Muai Thai technique so I believe these MT fighters know what they are doing, my friend.
I did not explain myself correctly, sorry. The clinch here is loose so you can see inside for the tutorial.
You are right, the clinch should be tight
i respectfully doubt the validity of the shown techniques as well. but i have to admit this might be one of the best answers i ever read on youtube.
These guys never practiced any of these techniques against anyone who uses these techniques in full contact fighting or who have at least 1 year wrestling training. This will not work against a trained Muay Thai fighter, MMA fighter, grappler, wrestler, etc. I don't think they guys even spar. But, perhaps against a novice, this technique may work simply as an unexpected move
So many wrong presumptions about our practice
***** here's a link
The roundhouse kick (mawashi) - Ernesto Hoost in Akban
in it is Ernesto Hoost, Mr. perfect, teaching a seminar in AKBAN. maybe this can serve as a clue that we are know our MT.
Respectfully
I know a few trained Muay thai fighters. They always get me in this clinch. Will be good to try something rather than just getting thrown. Respect.
AKBAN Nice video, as a Muay Thai instructor and competitor it is refreshing to see positions analysed by other perspectives. Your entry and clinch loosening is similar to some Thai techniques, and your applications of throws and upper body manipulations are worth exploring. Thanks for sharing! (for those who doubt another arts effectiveness, nobody thought Judo was good vs wrestling, MT or MMA until Rhonda Rousey came along.)
Ray White Thanks. You are one of the only guys commenting who actually show some sense.
Many of us are experienced MT practitioners too and we check our techniques with the top instructors in the world The roundhouse kick (mawashi) - Ernesto Hoost in Akban
For the record, I saw a video where Anderson Silva gave part of a seminar and brought up a grappling counter to the clinch similar to the ones shown in this vid. He said something like, "And this one for my friends who are great grapplers."
Yep, The beginning release is from MT. A lot of guys get fired up for nothing here.
+Richard Harrow Everyone in this thread should go back and watch the Anderson Silvia Rich Franklin fight .Train against those moves or the move simply will not work!
Just my opinion......The best thing here is to push forward the clinch to reduce the space even more and break the balance point of the muay thai fighter. By staying there and do a technique with more than 1 movement, for sure you will receive a knee to the body or the face.
gotta watch out for the in clinch elbows too, thats what makes punching someone with a full clinch dangerous
I applaud your respectful manner. B'hatzlacha.
you can try and google: AKBAN Ninjutsu portal.
It doesnt make the vid of the techniques bad, but indeed, the clinch shown is not a proper muaythai clinch. I think the most important point not mentioned by combuzzll, is that the fingertips should touch the top of the head, creating leverage thus making it almost impossible to keep posture. Makes countering it more realistic. :)
SInce the technique my instructor uses to open up the clinch is a Muai Thai technique I guess you are wrong.