Master Your Independence: Virgil Donati Breaks Down Dotted Eighths In 7/8
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- Опубліковано 15 лют 2023
- As a sequel to Virgil Donati's 'Rhythmic Facility' series, we bring you his exclusive Drum Channel course covering Dotted Eighths In Odd Times 🤩 👉 drmch.nl/3w1ymIY
Virgil guides you through various musical applications and improv examples, showing you just how far you can take his concept in 5/8, 7/8, 11/8, and beyond! 👏
Watch it now 👉 drmch.nl/3w1ymIY
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Virgil’s drumming has arguably been at the leading edge for many decades, with his accomplished compositional and orchestration skills also gaining recognition. Never one to seek approval or security, he has maintained an introspective, independent mind, transcending traditional boundaries, always alert to the possibilities beyond the norm.
At the age of 16, Virgil turned pro to enable him to tour and focus on music, and he has since devoted his whole life to his art. The motivation has been his endless and restless pursuit to express himself through his playing.
During his formal years in his homeland Australia, he carved a path in the pop-rock scene culminating in multi platinum success with his band Southern Sons, at the same time pushing progressive and fusion boundaries with Loose Change, and On The Virg.
He has recorded and toured with the likes of Planet X, Steve Vai, Allan Holdsworth, Tony MacAlpine, Kiko Loureiro, Bunny Brunel, Scott Henderson, Steve Walsh, and the Virgil Donati Band, amongst many others.
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The thing that makes Virgil really stand out amongst the elite players is his ability to make complex things sound fluid. It doesn't just sound like he's playing an 'exercise' on the kit, but rather a musical application of such exercises. While not playing 4/4, there is still that fluidity of time and groove.
This, well said
Vinnie had the same thing. Virgil utterly blows the mind with the kind of things he will just spontaneously pull out during improvisation.
Virgil is just the best. In a league of his own in my opinion.
If that was true, I would listen only to him. It's art, and almost no one know who he is compare to Phil Collins or John Bonham.
Keep in mind this man is in his 60s here...60s...just supernatural on all accounts...his passion never ends...
This man is trying everything to away from those temptation mortals has. Everything he did in his life, physical training, dieting is for drumming purpose.
So what? No reason not to continue to improve.
It is not about just having a desire, your mind and body should be able to follow when you are getting older. Virgil has been taking care about himself mentally and physically for years to continue his journey as long as possible.
Virgil plays drums like a piano player would so much advanced phrasing and great ideas .
Virgil is in fact a piano player.
There is definitely only one Virgil......his trademark sound is absolutely unique..master of the craft for damn sure
Cold and lonely up there at the very top, huh Virgil? 🐐
Very precise four limb independence. This is master drumming at its finest. Controlled, deliberate, dynamic, complicated!
This man never stops developing and inspiring others. Truly a giant influence and a pearl of our drumming community!
Virgil! I remember watching the deci sampler video around 1990 that my drum teacher gave me and Virgil was in there with all the greats and I knew right away there was something different about this guy!
I'm watching this and loving the sound of the drums and the musicality, but I have no idea how to count this so I'm totally lost.🤣😂
The Maestro, the Wizard. Greetings from Mexico
The fruit of a lifetime of constant work and dedication 🙌!!!
There are and have been many, many supernatural, amazing, G.O.A.T drummers thruout time, from Art, to Dave from Buddy to Billy, Tony and Lenny, Vinnie and Max, Elvin and Gene and Ringo and John and Steve and Thomas and Mike and on and on and on....The fact that we know who all these guys are by first name means they have all had a profound impact on our musical vocabulary. These guys and a hundred more first names can fill our collective GOAT lists but when you really, really, really understand music and drumming you will have to give Virgil a special place in history. The things he can do on a drumset and musically overall puts him in a very special place. If aliens came from outerspace and challenged us to a one on one drum off.. Human vs Alien with the losers planet instantly vaporized, my Champoin would have to be Virgil. We would have to send Virgil. Virgil is that special. If you doubt me, please take a deep dive into Virgil's career and listen and learn what he is able to do. I know it's crowded at the top of the mountain but this man is truely special and I believe like all great artists, unfortunately he may be recognized more after he is gone.. Lets not let that happen and appreciate him now!!
Wise speech...Virgil bro more than amazing
That is a very special tribute to Virgil and all the other guys that you named in your comment. Virgil without a doubt has put his stick time in. I saw him up close and personal all those years ago when he developed the double strokes with the foot pedals. I find myself being so very thankful to have been born on the cusp of the big band rock and roll era. Think about it. At some point there was no such thing as a rock and roll musician let alone a rock and roll drummer!! God gave us
all the gift of drums and drumming. Everyone everywhere has something to offer!! Playing drums allows us to be part of a brotherhood that most people on this planet really don't understand!! So with Grace and honor always share what you have learned. Support each other always and remember the voice was first. Then it's the drum!! I'll stop there for now and say thank you for your insight. So to everyone out there that sits behind a set of drums and hold sticks in their hands.... Keep your chops up my brothers🙃🥁🙏❤️
This sums up perfectly what I've been trying to explain to non-drummers for years.
Ive been lucky enough to follow him and see his clinics and shows since i was a young lad, and he never ceases to amaze. I have seen the faces of other greats standing off to the side watching him at festivals etc, he genuinely makes people just say wow and shake their head in disbelief at what they just witnessed.
No other musician has pushed the boundaries like Virgil, i doubt anyone will.
Virgil would lose IMO. I can't trust him to do Green Onions yet (so to speak). I've known his abilities (amazing piano plyr) and contributions 27yrs. but Virgil has never been in a real band that produces anything of merit as artistic music. His situation is the same as Gary Husband, Borlai, etc. so to speak. Do you understand? Name promotion works two ways.
The youttube video titled ''Mike Dolbear Web Show Series 3 Episode 1 - Peter Erskine & Dave Weckl'' at 22min45, Peter said : ''Dave would do things that maybe, if I were lucky, maybe do for a second. And he (Dave) can do it for like 10 seconds, 15 seconds. Virgil could do it for 4 hours !'' Dave agrees.
If those two are finding Virgil special, I think it's fair to say he probably is.
The way he shifts from the 2221 to the dotted with his left foot is so smooth, in there few times. In some cases when he was taking the 2221 and 223 and shifting accents back and forth between his right hand and left foot you would almost forget he is playing in 7 unless you listen to the bassline. I'm guess he is going to do something crazy in 9/8 next. Can't wait.
Not only the Beast Master but the Master Beast.
I was a fan now I am an air conditioner! Amazing!
Love the playing here. Great drummer.
The music track is a take on the vamp in a Planet X track called “Snuff”
Virgil is just constantly inspiring. In this case because of the kind of sparseness by alternating the kick and snare on the first pulse of each 7/8 measure, to me rather than looking at the 7/8 as a time signature, it feels more like the subdivision of 28th notes or septuplets in 4/4 time, thereby having the kick fundementaly playing the downbeat of 1& 3 and the snare on 2 & 4. All the other embellishement or accents played by the kick and snare are just possible note groupings within the 28th note subdivision played within the quarter note pulse; in the same way as would be the case if one were playing a 16th note groove.. The other great thing about looking at this as 28th notes played in 4/4 rather than a 7/8 time signature, is that it makes the tempo 7 times slower, which than makes apprehending the groove and feeling it so much more accessible because of the space it creates. The left foot hi hat pattern can then be felt to be playing a clave within each quarter note, sometimes as 1-3-5-7 other times it seems to play every second note , resolving over two beats from a 4/4 perspective like this 1-3-5-7--2-4-6 and back to 1. Similarly the right hand pattern can be felt to be play all the 28th notes (7 per beat) while accenting pulses 1-3-5 of each 7 note grouping. That is my take on it at any rate, looking at it as 4/4 time using the 28th note subdivision gives me a greater appreciation and time that I can really feel, because of the space in the groove and the kick/snare downbeat backbeat feel. Thanks Virgil beautiful groove.....
magnifico.💯💯💯💯💯💯
i understand everything
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Incredible talent meets a lifetime of hard work. A real precision powerhouse. Thanks Virgil
Absolute Genius 💯 🔥💯🥁🔥🥁👏💎👏💎👏🥁🔥🥁🔥🥁
Someone told me about Virgil while discussing Thomas Lang. I wont say who is better but I will say I’m glad that person told me about Virgil.
Keep going, Virgil, we love you.
incrível inédito para mim , imprecionado, existe grande trabalho, de lapdacao e objetivo ritmico ,mais realmente eu precisaria entender mais isto,perfeito esta forma de tocar, suou incrível e um outro patamar foi feito na bateria,evolução está e a palavra para este músico
Нагледно, подробно, вдъхновяващо.
El arte de Virgil es prodigioso!
Един от най-добрите видео уроци!!!
So very Cool 😎 awesome
My IEMs appreciate this mixing 🙂
Quality, wouldn't mind some slower breakdowns of some of these ideas and patterns. So us mere mortals can try too.
I still have literally no idea what is happening here. Virgil speaks some super advanced language on the drums that my puny brain can't comprehend. ☹️
You are not the only one 😉😉🙂cheer up bud!!
@JH hah! Simon Phillips held a clinic in my country and he spoke about working with Virgil as a producer. Another well-known drummer was with Simon in the studio the time (I forget who) and he asked Simon to explain what Virgil was doing to which Simon replied "how should I know?" The other drummer then retorted, "what do you mean you don't know? You're supposed to know!" 🤣
@@viktormuerte Simon and Virgil have 1 year difference in Age, crazy when you think about it
Just got a Masterclass on 7/8! :)
What I really want to know is how many ball caps does he own?
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I would love to hear a slower breakdown and how to count it out. You can feel the pulse and downbeat. I get lost on the rest
Ah ah ah ( nervous laughing)
What happened!!
Is it just me, or does that music sound like a Weather Report song?...Not that there's anything wrong with that 😃
EDIT: I'm thinking of Havona from Heavy Weather.
Would be good if he broke it down further and walked mere mortals like me
i realy dont think that hes from this planet...it cant be...he is just in another level far away from the rest, insane stuf, , hoooooooooooooooooly shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Clear heads just sound like plastic to me. Coated heads sound so much better. Listen to his snare sound versus all the other drums. I'm not saying the other drums sound bad, but the coated head sounds so much better than the clear.
Just too basic for me. Have you got anything more complexed?(Obnoxious and extreme sarcasm!)
Trop simple pour moi aussi .😂