Would be cool to see Short Treks revived as ‘First Contacts’ - telling stories that depict first contacts between races like Bajoran and Cardassian etc…
I was thinking the same thing actually. In particular, I was thinking an animated series, something akin to Animatrix, where each short had a different visual style with different writers and animators, etc...
Total out-of-left-field theory: El-Aurians are the non-ascended (to borrow a term from Stargate) Q. Which is why they hate each other so much. Just a thought
Not so left field. This makes a lot of sense considering there are already examples of this (if not non-ascended then at least offshoot of) in Trek lore, Romulans / Vulcans, Baku / So'nar etc.
I nearly peed in hysterics and appreciation at your wonderful meshing of "Ode To Spot" in your Catian/Betazoid segment! That entire section is my absolute favorite and yes, we need to see that first contact banquet! 🐈🍽👀
Fantastic list and job, as always. I *really* want to see first contact of Morn's species with... well, any other species. I'm assuming Romulan ale was involved!
You mean, the Cerritos solving the problems, whatever happened because of the first contact. Coming to second contacts, the crew of the Cerritos are the best Starfleet has to offer. Which isn't really a compliment for Starfleet.
@@dorastefaniesellner306 the Cerritos in the end would fix everything and handle the second contact with their usual badassery, but only after mucking things up first 😂
Imagine Bajoran light ships making accidental first contact with a pre warp cardassia, tipping the cardassians off to the existence (and maybe location) of other species, but the bajorans back home having no idea this was going on and just assuming their light ships were just destroyed somewhere. Fast forward an indeterminate number of (at very least) decades and the Cardassians are rampaging around the sector looking for nice new worlds to occupy and plunder...
I would love to see the official Starfleet and Cardassian Union. The Cardassians have added so much to Star Trek lore I think we should see the first contact
You know I can't believe I haven't ever thought that before. We missed the entire Cardassian war and I've thought that it would he great to see that. Like Obriens experiences, including Setlik, maybe have Captain Maxwell in there and find out what others were up to considering you never really heard about it from others besides obrein and maxwell... what did no one else in starfleet not serve during that war.
It seems like the El-Aurians have more to them than meets the eye for Q to fear them. And Guinan held out her hands in a move that looked alot like Q's hand flip for making stuff happen. Do El-Aurian's have hidden abilities too?
So many series, so many great additions to timelines. Do you guys have a suggested re-watching order of episodes across all series? To get a best case scenario or at least understanding? Also think that watching episodes from different productions (movies included) would be a GREAT PARTY at my house with all of my Trekkie friends over a few heavy games of “Star Slig” where when something like a “Damnit Jim” or a transport malfunction requires all watchers to have a slig of their favorite Tranya/Andorian Ale/Blood wine.
I want to see the Bajorans first encountering the Prophets. Also the disastrous first meeting between the Borg and Species 8472. Its implied that that meeting was in Fluidlc Space, but how did the Borg get there?
"No matter how many stars there are in the sky, no matter how many galaxies swirl beyond our own, no matter what the mathematical probabilities or the number of times we say 'we are not alone in the universe', our first visit from the stars is always the province of children's stories and science fiction. First contact with aliens always lives squarely in the impossible. First contact is just a dream... until one day, it isn't." -- Una Chin-Riley, 2259
I find it strange that Starfleet knew about the El-Aurian refugees in the days of the Enterprise-B but didn't find out about the Borg until Q threw Picard & Co. into their path. Starfleet was assisting refugees that had their homeworld destroyed but didn't bother to ask any follow up questions? Were populated planets so routinely destroyed that it was viewed as just another Thursday and not to worry that it could happen to your world?
Andorian and Tellerite must have been interesting... Tellerite: You there, You are short, blue and visually offensive... Andorian: Nice to meet you too... [whispers to First Officer] Get my Ice Axe...
I forget if it was beta canon or where in the world I read it, but I distinctly recall there being some rumblings of the Bajorans and Cardassians having a common ancestor. Not as far back as the Progenitors, but more like the Vulcans, Romulans, and Mintakans.
Star Trek should do something similar to what Star Wars is doing with "Tales of the Jedi/Empire" and do an animated series with little short episodes or arcs about some aspects of the lore and canon that may not justify or contain a full series worth of content.
The Ready Room color coding doesn't really seem to reference Federation members though... Scalos and Kiley have the same symbol as Betazed for example.
It’d be interesting to see Nacene and the Q meet.2 very powerful races! Presumably they would be aware of each other, given Q’s knowledge and interactions on Voyager.
I would love to see a series about how things progressed after first contact. How we were able to change and grow and how all the major headaches were all eliminated.😁 But that is just me.
I'm almost certain that the Lanthanites have something to do with the legend of Atlantis. Just based on their name. Either Atlantis was populated by their subspecies (if that theory is correct), or it was a Lanthanite ship that splashed down on Earth, and was later abandoned (probably because the denizens didn't have the resources and materials to maintain it) and scuttled by the crew.
Caitians and KZinti being an homage to Larry Niven, and MRes being a Caitian and Tanna a Kzinti Caitian hybrid, it would be puurfect to see a contact between the Federation and Kzinti too.
Id would want to see how spocks parents first met. He was and still is my favorite star character( yes I know actor is longer with us but still my favorite) though the actor in strange new worlds plays spock plays really well. (I think his grandfather would be mighty proud of him)
In a TNG episode "First Contact" (not the movie). Picard tells this alien race (they are also meeting for the first time) that a first contact meeting with the Klingons was disastrous and led to war
Do you know what else we need to see? That time when the Klingons destroyed the Tribble home world. It could be a musical Long Trek in the style of Klingon opera (not Klingon K-Pop, please), so we can hear the songs Odo referred to. If I am not mistaken, that should also be set in the Lost Era...
From everything they've established canonically about Lanthanites on SNW, they appear to me to be the "species" of human that Flint was (TOS: "Requiem for Methuselah"). He lived on Earth for 6 millenia as some of the greatest minds in Earth history. I think the Lanthanites are the same thing, as a variant human species from Earth that are immortal but otherwise humans from Earth. Maybe their name refers not to a world but to a founder of their tribe?
Silly question. If humans were transporting el-aurians after the destruction of their planet due to the Borg, then surely they would have told the humans about the Borg...(it was the Enterprise B so before Picard's enterprise!)
Not a silly question or point... TNG established that the Borg were the cause of the El-Aurians being nearly wiped out. Generations then added to the lore by indicating the Federation & Starfleet knew of the species by 2293 to have the Enterprise-B bridge officer or crewman name drop them with a tone of basic familiarity. Logic would dictate that, even if the knowledge of the El-Aurian species was second-hand and the B's rescue of the refugees was the first direct contact the Federation had with El-Aurians, their history with the Borg would eventually come up as the Federation and Starfleet helped them integrate into Federation society. So Seven's parents eventually studying the Borg's existence before the events of Q Who would stem from unsubstantiated stories from El-Aurian survivors like Guinan or tales of eradicated worlds or colonies outside Federation space, because the Borg weren't leaving anyone behind to spread word.
As much as Bendai Syndrome Dr. T'ana makes Betazoid-Caitian first contact sound like a hoot, I want to see Human-Kzinti first contact. Give us an adaptation of the Earth-Kzin Wars we have been dying for since Wing Commander (Yup, the Killrathi are just Kzinti)!
I've always wondered why the El-Aurians didn't warn the Federation about the Borg. I mean, they knew of them when the Enterprise-B launched, so why not warn Starfleet?
Regard first contact of Klingons and Vulcasns. I think Burnham was biased. It is almost sure that during first encounter both sides did attempt to communicate. But Vulcans simply assume that Klingons are insane, when they start talking about "feasting on harts of they enemies" and decide logically that they should fire first. They were not aware that Klingoins are just quoting opera, but fortunately for them Klingons did see Vulcan behavior as territorial, as for same reason Vulcans never attempted to enter known Klingon space. Things went sour when Federation ship under command of Vulcan encounter Klingons who attempted to communicate associates of famous criminal Archer (Klingons known Humans). What ended with unjust fire. Except this time Federation entered Klingon territory and Klingons actually were scared by what they see as conquest of Vulcans by Humanity. Whole point was that both sides were incorrect about nature of other side.
There's little reason to suppose that the Q and the El-Aurians, _as a species,_ had had first contact. All the scenes between Guinan and Q support is that those two individuals are personally acquainted.
Perhaps the El-Aurian were a group that split of from the Q during that civil war we saw in voyager. They chose a partial step down to normie status after picking a nice planet in a fun era and mostly stuck to linear time and space thereafter.
I totally thought / hoped the Vau Nakat was going to be revealed as a future version of the borg / part of the borg splintered into their bio and tech halved by Janeway’s virus 🤯
11:37 If that mind meld is decently written, boy's not scared for long since he's being given an instant assurance of benign intention. (Also please say "dogs" for this sentence since singular they does not necessarily apply.)
I desperately want to hear Pella make an off-hand comment in Strange New Worlds: "I met and fell in love with another Lanthanite in New York City where he was a mechanic for a taxi company..."
I understand that only the El-Aurians that went into the Nexus in Generations have a non linear perception of time. This wouldn't be the natural condition of the race. I'd also like to see First contact between Vulcans and Andorians; vulcans/ Tellarite; Andorians/ Tellarites. This part of Federation history is, as far as I know, very lightly explored.
I’ve wondered if Lanthanites are humans with some genetic differences that allow them to live for a very long time. Perhaps due to some sort of mutation?
Would be cool to see Short Treks revived as ‘First Contacts’ - telling stories that depict first contacts between races like Bajoran and Cardassian etc…
Short Treks would also be a great way start building out Star Trek: Legacy.
Yes!
That's a really good idea!
I was thinking the same thing actually. In particular, I was thinking an animated series, something akin to Animatrix, where each short had a different visual style with different writers and animators, etc...
I think I'd enjoy that. Yes.
Total out-of-left-field theory: El-Aurians are the non-ascended (to borrow a term from Stargate) Q. Which is why they hate each other so much. Just a thought
Let's go with that headcanon
Not so left field. This makes a lot of sense considering there are already examples of this (if not non-ascended then at least offshoot of) in Trek lore, Romulans / Vulcans, Baku / So'nar etc.
Would love a Stargate/Star Trek Crossover!
Here's one that we can't confirm has happened, but almost certainly *has*: the Dominion making its own first contact with the Borg.
Wud be great episodes
Probably how Weyoun 1 died? 🤔
I like the idea of Lanthanites being a sub-species of Human. It would wrap up the mystery of Flint very nicely.
That is a good observation.
Maybe that's what happened to the Denisovans.
That variation of "Today is a good day to die" gave me a great laugh, thank you for that. Also thanks for all you do.
The rephrasing of Ode to Spot did it for me. 😊
I nearly peed in hysterics and appreciation at your wonderful meshing of "Ode To Spot" in your Catian/Betazoid segment! That entire section is my absolute favorite and yes, we need to see that first contact banquet! 🐈🍽👀
personally I would love to see Romulan Klingon first contact or even Tholian first contact, since we have only seen a mirror version in Enterprise
I want to seethe Tholian first contact with Vulcans.
Fantastic list and job, as always. I *really* want to see first contact of Morn's species with... well, any other species. I'm assuming Romulan ale was involved!
Not to be contrarian, I kind of think the Q/El-Aurian first contact should be left as a "noodle incident."
Nice
Whatever the first contact, expect the Cerritos to mess up the second contact.
Haha😂😂 niccce
Also I like your username😂😂 I wish I was signed into my alt YT account, Remember_Tuvix
You mean, the Cerritos solving the problems, whatever happened because of the first contact. Coming to second contacts, the crew of the Cerritos are the best Starfleet has to offer.
Which isn't really a compliment for Starfleet.
@@dorastefaniesellner306 the Cerritos in the end would fix everything and handle the second contact with their usual badassery, but only after mucking things up first 😂
@@magnificentuniverse2283 Like I said. Best ship in the fleet. 😹
Would like to see the Voth revisited. Can’t resist a story about dinosaurs, even evolved space faring ones.
0:00 Intro
0:19 10: Federation / Medusan
1:37 9: El-Aurian / Human
3:01 8: El-Aurian / The Q Continuum
4:34 7: Lanthanite / Human
6:07 6: Tribble / Klingon
7:19 5: Bajoran / Cardassian
8:32 4: Vau N"Akat / Starfleet
10:08 3: Starfleet / Nacene
11:12 2: Vulcan / Klingon
12:20 1: Betazoid / Caitian
13:39 Outro
Happy First Contact Day!
Dude please please please never stop ❤
Imagine Bajoran light ships making accidental first contact with a pre warp cardassia, tipping the cardassians off to the existence (and maybe location) of other species, but the bajorans back home having no idea this was going on and just assuming their light ships were just destroyed somewhere. Fast forward an indeterminate number of (at very least) decades and the Cardassians are rampaging around the sector looking for nice new worlds to occupy and plunder...
I would love to see the official Starfleet and Cardassian Union. The Cardassians have added so much to Star Trek lore I think we should see the first contact
You know I can't believe I haven't ever thought that before. We missed the entire Cardassian war and I've thought that it would he great to see that. Like Obriens experiences, including Setlik, maybe have Captain Maxwell in there and find out what others were up to considering you never really heard about it from others besides obrein and maxwell... what did no one else in starfleet not serve during that war.
@@magnificentuniverse2283 agreed! 👍
How did the Vulcans and Andorians meet and develop the animosity viewed in the Enterprise series?
It seems like the El-Aurians have more to them than meets the eye for Q to fear them. And Guinan held out her hands in a move that looked alot like Q's hand flip for making stuff happen. Do El-Aurian's have hidden abilities too?
So many series, so many great additions to timelines. Do you guys have a suggested re-watching order of episodes across all series? To get a best case scenario or at least understanding? Also think that watching episodes from different productions (movies included) would be a GREAT PARTY at my house with all of my Trekkie friends over a few heavy games of “Star Slig” where when something like a “Damnit Jim” or a transport malfunction requires all watchers to have a slig of their favorite Tranya/Andorian Ale/Blood wine.
Nice job making an obscure Aqua reference, Sean.
The Borg and species 002.
Excellent as always! Any plans to add the Tholians?
"Someone fetch the warm milk!" Seán Ferrick, you are always hilarious! :)
Great video as always guys!
Happy First Contact Day TrekCulture!!
Voyager 6 and the Robot Race 😅
I'm proud of myself for independently thinking up the Borg hypothesis in the 1990s on that one! 😎
I want to see the Bajorans first encountering the Prophets. Also the disastrous first meeting between the Borg and Species 8472. Its implied that that meeting was in Fluidlc Space, but how did the Borg get there?
"No matter how many stars there are in the sky, no matter how many galaxies swirl beyond our own, no matter what the mathematical probabilities or the number of times we say 'we are not alone in the universe', our first visit from the stars is always the province of children's stories and science fiction. First contact with aliens always lives squarely in the impossible. First contact is just a dream... until one day, it isn't."
-- Una Chin-Riley, 2259
One thing that was never explored in star trek was who was the first human too step foot on vulcan.
I find it strange that Starfleet knew about the El-Aurian refugees in the days of the Enterprise-B but didn't find out about the Borg until Q threw Picard & Co. into their path. Starfleet was assisting refugees that had their homeworld destroyed but didn't bother to ask any follow up questions? Were populated planets so routinely destroyed that it was viewed as just another Thursday and not to worry that it could happen to your world?
El-Aurians listen, but maybe they don't talk much? 😅
@@DanielSolis 😆
First contact with Kzinti
Gesundheit!
Andorian and Tellerite must have been interesting...
Tellerite: You there, You are short, blue and visually offensive...
Andorian: Nice to meet you too... [whispers to First Officer] Get my Ice Axe...
Loved this! Thank you!
That segue into Dr. Jones by Aqua made my day. I am curious about the Kerkovians in SNW are they related to the medusans?
Technically not a first contact BUT I would like to see/know who/how the Borg started and what it was like assimilating the first race of the Borg.
I forget if it was beta canon or where in the world I read it, but I distinctly recall there being some rumblings of the Bajorans and Cardassians having a common ancestor. Not as far back as the Progenitors, but more like the Vulcans, Romulans, and Mintakans.
Star Trek should do something similar to what Star Wars is doing with "Tales of the Jedi/Empire" and do an animated series with little short episodes or arcs about some aspects of the lore and canon that may not justify or contain a full series worth of content.
I still love the theory that Bejorans are the Cardassians the same species just with thousands of years of evolution changes.
Great list
The Ready Room color coding doesn't really seem to reference Federation members though... Scalos and Kiley have the same symbol as Betazed for example.
100% need to see Betazoid/Caitain first contact. there are so many jokes here. LOL!
The other ones I'd like to see are Klingon/Hur'q and Romulan/Reman.
Vulcan Andorian
Happy first contact day, everyone😊
It’d be interesting to see Nacene and the Q meet.2 very powerful races! Presumably they would be aware of each other, given Q’s knowledge and interactions on Voyager.
I would love to see a series about how things progressed after first contact. How we were able to change and grow and how all the major headaches were all eliminated.😁 But that is just me.
This was a lot of fun!
lantinides are decendents of the Lantians as in the inhabitants of atlantis.
Reman/Romulan FC might be fairly predictable, but could still be interesting
"Desperate for attendees at his Banjo concert" you kill me dude 😂
Definitely like to see first contact between the Klingons and Romulans.
I'd be curious to see Humans and the Breen
I'd like to see borg in their current form （not anymore through Picard S3） made first contact with the first species they ventured out to assimilate
Lanthanites are Atlantians, so, been here a loooong time.
Those would be interesting.
I'm almost certain that the Lanthanites have something to do with the legend of Atlantis. Just based on their name. Either Atlantis was populated by their subspecies (if that theory is correct), or it was a Lanthanite ship that splashed down on Earth, and was later abandoned (probably because the denizens didn't have the resources and materials to maintain it) and scuttled by the crew.
Borg Ferengi,the borg designation for ferengi is relatively low so they must have encountered them before wolf 359.
Still hoping for the Star Trek Version of Kzinti Human contact and subsequent wars.
Caitians and KZinti being an homage to Larry Niven, and MRes being a Caitian and Tanna a Kzinti Caitian hybrid, it would be puurfect to see a contact between the Federation and Kzinti too.
1:22 Which series is this from?
Prodigy
Id would want to see how spocks parents first met. He was and still is my favorite star character( yes I know actor is longer with us but still my favorite) though the actor in strange new worlds plays spock plays really well. (I think his grandfather would be mighty proud of him)
In a TNG episode "First Contact" (not the movie). Picard tells this alien race (they are also meeting for the first time) that a first contact meeting with the Klingons was disastrous and led to war
5:35 Maybe the Lanthanites are like that one guy from TOS...(looks it up myself and nope, Flint is something altogether else.)
7:57 The auto-captions are saying "Kardashia Prime" and "Kardashians." XD
"not the brightest star in the fleet" How have I not heard this before? or come up with it myself? I'm gonna remember that one.
Sean, Check out "The Man From Earth" lots of Star Trek players and the main character could be a Lanthanite
Cool....that episode in TNG featuring the Medusan's had no other than Diana Muldair aka Dr. Pulaski from TNG as one of the characters....
I thought it was a nice touch that the Medusan's name was Kalos. It is the masculine form of the Greek word for beauty, something like "handsome".
UFP First Contact with The Cardassians
Id like to see Reman / Vulc..err....Romulan!
I think it might have been the ready availability of slave labour next door being the reason why they colonised Romulus.
Do you know what else we need to see? That time when the Klingons destroyed the Tribble home world. It could be a musical Long Trek in the style of Klingon opera (not Klingon K-Pop, please), so we can hear the songs Odo referred to. If I am not mistaken, that should also be set in the Lost Era...
From everything they've established canonically about Lanthanites on SNW, they appear to me to be the "species" of human that Flint was (TOS: "Requiem for Methuselah"). He lived on Earth for 6 millenia as some of the greatest minds in Earth history. I think the Lanthanites are the same thing, as a variant human species from Earth that are immortal but otherwise humans from Earth. Maybe their name refers not to a world but to a founder of their tribe?
Happy First Contact DAY 🖖🏻🖖🏻
I want to see the first contact between the Federation and the Sheliak Corporate
Silly question. If humans were transporting el-aurians after the destruction of their planet due to the Borg, then surely they would have told the humans about the Borg...(it was the Enterprise B so before Picard's enterprise!)
Not a silly question or point... TNG established that the Borg were the cause of the El-Aurians being nearly wiped out. Generations then added to the lore by indicating the Federation & Starfleet knew of the species by 2293 to have the Enterprise-B bridge officer or crewman name drop them with a tone of basic familiarity.
Logic would dictate that, even if the knowledge of the El-Aurian species was second-hand and the B's rescue of the refugees was the first direct contact the Federation had with El-Aurians, their history with the Borg would eventually come up as the Federation and Starfleet helped them integrate into Federation society. So Seven's parents eventually studying the Borg's existence before the events of Q Who would stem from unsubstantiated stories from El-Aurian survivors like Guinan or tales of eradicated worlds or colonies outside Federation space, because the Borg weren't leaving anyone behind to spread word.
As much as Bendai Syndrome Dr. T'ana makes Betazoid-Caitian first contact sound like a hoot, I want to see Human-Kzinti first contact. Give us an adaptation of the Earth-Kzin Wars we have been dying for since Wing Commander (Yup, the Killrathi are just Kzinti)!
It's beta Cannon but I love the Catian character of Ssura
I've always wondered why the El-Aurians didn't warn the Federation about the Borg. I mean, they knew of them when the Enterprise-B launched, so why not warn Starfleet?
i wanna see federation/caitian first contact so bad. did people try to pet them?
Can you do a 10-ships that would have fared better/worse then voyager had the caretaker snatched them.
Regard first contact of Klingons and Vulcasns. I think Burnham was biased. It is almost sure that during first encounter both sides did attempt to communicate. But Vulcans simply assume that Klingons are insane, when they start talking about "feasting on harts of they enemies" and decide logically that they should fire first. They were not aware that Klingoins are just quoting opera, but fortunately for them Klingons did see Vulcan behavior as territorial, as for same reason Vulcans never attempted to enter known Klingon space. Things went sour when Federation ship under command of Vulcan encounter Klingons who attempted to communicate associates of famous criminal Archer (Klingons known Humans). What ended with unjust fire. Except this time Federation entered Klingon territory and Klingons actually were scared by what they see as conquest of Vulcans by Humanity. Whole point was that both sides were incorrect about nature of other side.
The Q and El-Alurien would make for an excellent Long Trek
There's little reason to suppose that the Q and the El-Aurians, _as a species,_ had had first contact. All the scenes between Guinan and Q support is that those two individuals are personally acquainted.
Q and the Borg. How would that play out?
Perhaps the El-Aurian were a group that split of from the Q during that civil war we saw in voyager. They chose a partial step down to normie status after picking a nice planet in a fun era and mostly stuck to linear time and space thereafter.
I like...because it's Sean...🖖
first contact i would love too see is the federation and cardassian or vulcans and andorian
Haven't seen the episodes, but doesn't TAS show a female Caitian officer namsd M'Ress as being part of the crew of Kirk's Enterprise?
I want to know how Q and Guinan know each other. Definitely a lot of animosity there. Maybe she was at home when the Q made contact?
Given this video was released and cannot find any announcement, given today is FC day, It seems all but confirmed that Legacy wont happen.
We all know the vulcan hello is cannon breaking B.s from Discovery that ignores Enterprise' first episode (and every klingon episide after that)
I totally thought / hoped the Vau Nakat was going to be revealed as a future version of the borg / part of the borg splintered into their bio and tech halved by Janeway’s virus 🤯
11:37 If that mind meld is decently written, boy's not scared for long since he's being given an instant assurance of benign intention. (Also please say "dogs" for this sentence since singular they does not necessarily apply.)
I desperately want to hear Pella make an off-hand comment in Strange New Worlds: "I met and fell in love with another Lanthanite in New York City where he was a mechanic for a taxi company..."
That Lanthanite worked for a man that looked exactly like a nearly sub-human man named Frank Reynolds.
I understand that only the El-Aurians that went into the Nexus in Generations have a non linear perception of time. This wouldn't be the natural condition of the race.
I'd also like to see First contact between Vulcans and Andorians; vulcans/ Tellarite; Andorians/ Tellarites. This part of Federation history is, as far as I know, very lightly explored.
Why does it seem your the only one hosting now where ellie
First contacts we want to see: "Bajoran - Cardassian".
Hmmmm... I don't think you've thought this one through... 🤔😅
I’ve wondered if Lanthanites are humans with some genetic differences that allow them to live for a very long time. Perhaps due to some sort of mutation?
V'ger Borg first contact?
While FC between Cardassia and Bajor is historically important, FC between Cardassia and the Federation would be FAR more interesting.
Borg first contact.. id say with who, but obviously idk who Species 002 was.
Real question, how many species had first contact with the borg, before they became the borg.
As soon as I hear 74656 "I'm pretty sure that is Voyager's registry number"