Nice video, thanks. I had already done one but also replaced the lower chain for the oil pump. You have to remove the sump and oil pump so you can have enough room to get the lower chain off. Some points best to lubricate the chain when fitting also click the tensioner up by hand a bit. I did not remove the rocker cover like yourself but I have seen others do it. ...mine leaked after a couple of months I did not use best silicone so that's the cover off again to reseal.
Nice work, thanks for sharing 👍…Best change my oil soon ! Having said that an oil change won’t stop those plastic rails from failing. Worse thing on mine is the clutch… horrible grabby action apparently it’s a common fault.
Great video, would have like to have seen how the tensioners came off as well as how the chain was removed plus a bit of info about refitting those parts. wasnt sure if there was some adjustment needed to the tensioners or if it self adjusted? Thanks
Im in the middle of this exact job - when removing the old tensioner there was no gasket - when i opened the new tensioner in the kit there was no gasket either - did you fit the new tensioner with or without a gasket as there is an oil line feeding into the tensioner from the block - after fitting everything and pulling the pin making the chain tight i manually cranked for a while - oil in the oil pump started flowing and oil started coming from the tensioner - im wondering if this oil is hydraulic of just lubracating the tensioner inside parts - cheers
just to add - when i got the timing cover plate off I was expecting to find worn out chain guides like you did here - but my chain guides were in good condition , little wear - but what i did find was that the chain tensioner looks like it stopped extending - there was bout inch and half gap between tensioner piston and chain guide ....... causing chain to be loose - and when i swing chain guide to tensioner and they hit it made metalic sound , same sound i was having from the engine when it was running - failing guides from wear and failing tensioners on same engine = reason so many complaints about this engine
on sandero tce the chain starts making noise at 146,000 km. it makes a noise like a tappet. and in release like turning the pedals of a bicycle in reverse
Thanks a lot man. I will resolve the same problem with your video. I m a bit worried about loosing timing, but if i understood it s not difficult to turn the poulies for retiming?... Two little questions please, on others creepy videos 😂, i saw they drope the top carter, is it useless please? And have i to drope the 3 sparks and plug? Thanks
Hi. You don't need to remove the top cover. If you want have more control of the camshafts for not go out of alignment you can remove the top cover and lock the camshafts with a vise plyers. That way they will not move. Its a easy job. Take your time. Following my video you will be fine. U don't need to remove the sparks plugs. But is easy to rotate the engine with them out. Thanks 😊
Bonjour, moi aussi même pb, un peu moins bruyant, mais idem. 3500e chez Renault c est des fous, j ai tout commandé pour 300e avec pompe a eau kit ditri et kit access, et je vais le faire..
@@cheslendutoit2459 yes because the timing did jump out i was focused to put it right that's why i didn't use the camera. Take off undo the tensioner. Then the guards on one side or both sides works better, chain will come iff easy. Is not a difficult job. Just takes time.
the 3 screws near in the middle just behind the small pouley. I ha the reponse: yes. Dou you have the torque of the motor support? The torque of the screws on the carter are 55Nm and 25 Nm@@axores20
@@emmanuelbardamu6204 you have to remove those 3 screws as they help bolt the timing plate to the block - prob to add extra strength to the pully above them
You placed the timing chain marks incorrectly. The colors on the chain are supposed to be placed on each timing mark on the engine. That's the only thing done wrong, I noticed, but you got the engine running.
Hello, I have the same car and also 0.9tce engine. My timingchain after chain rattle when reving above 3000rpm has been replaced including oil pump, but ever since the car is shaking a lot when driving. The mechanic told that when he was starting the car in the morning before, the engine turned over but did not go forward or backwards. He did a compression test: Cylinder 2 compression is 7.0 bar and Cylinder 1 and 3 has 12.0 bar. When looking with a camera inside the engine, you can see a little valve mark on the pistons. When performing a leak test, you don't hear air escaping. Is it okay to drive the car in this condition? Or do I need a new or used Cylinder head? Please advise and thanks for helping! Or could the compression loss come fromd something else, like bent piston? Check engine light only flashed like 4 times. Did not stay on. There was a fault: P0300. The mechanic said with the Bosch scanner it was multiple misfire cylinder 2
For what you saying the mechanic did something wrong. If the car drove to his garage fine and was rattle only above 3000 rpm i would say he did something wrong. Perhaps timing the engine wrong to start with? This car i was working on was worst than yours for what you did described, and when i remove the cover the chain went out of timing. I manage put put and the car running perfect. I believe he did something wrong to start with my friend
@@johnnyvdpijll2927 well if they are really bent then yes. Head needs to come off and have them replace surface the head and fit with new headgasket. But we dont know if this mechanic did put the car out of timing. Even if is like he says the engine didn't turn over, don't believe the starter will bent the valves, unless he was trying to many times or push the car to start. He never will tell you the truth. But car was at his garage therefore is his responsibility.
No worse than a cambelt change, the chain guides will never get past 100,000 miles just like a cambelt will not. Changing the guides early may be a cheap fix than waiting for them to fail and then buying a chain too. Must be a cam lock device out there for a 90 TCE? Just looked at a timing chain kit - £105 - I would change the lot............
Hi. Yes i got one. But i normally use the arrow points as reference. I did change all the original kit from Renault. The car has high mileage so it did last a long time actually.
These engines are garbage...they have what Renault calls DLC on the bores ..Diamond Like Coating.....this coating wears off around 90k miles..usually when the warranty is just out ..once the cross hatch is gone no more compression ...there a throw away engine...
im in the middle of changing my timing chain - 130k on the clock - hand cranking the crank with plugs in and the compression is so high i can bearly turn by hand ....... and thats on all 3 cylinders , so dont know what your on about - i guess it also depends on how well an engine is looked after
That buldge is called a bulb, it used when the car completely runs out of fuel , you need to pump that a few times to release vapor lol....the engine is crap and there's lack of a quiet drive, bad engine design, bad performer on steep hills, can barely challenge morning highway traffic rush, without the turbo this car is useless.
That is the pipe from air-conditioning. Nothing to do with the fuel. The pipe has a leak inside. That's why is like this. Her Aircon don't work anyway so she does have a leak somewhere inside of that pipe. That system you talking about is more used at diesel engines which has no fuel pump in the tank. Petrol always have a fuel pump inside the tank, therefore you wont need that valve to push fuel up. 🙂
And one thing we both agree, not a good design this engine. I did 2 more timing chain after this one. They easy to do. Last one has 56k on the clock, tensioner did fail. So low mileage for this to happen.
@@axores20 Thanks for correcting me, I own the stepway cross, I've owned it for 2 years and I drive it at 2000rpm all the time but the chain has started making noise like it's a diesel engine, it's frustrating . Yes I like the fact that I save alot on fuel but the quality of the entire vehicle is questionable.
Nice video, thanks. I had already done one but also replaced the lower chain for the oil pump. You have to remove the sump and oil pump so you can have enough room to get the lower chain off. Some points best to lubricate the chain when fitting also click the tensioner up by hand a bit. I did not remove the rocker cover like yourself but I have seen others do it. ...mine leaked after a couple of months I did not use best silicone so that's the cover off again to reseal.
Great job done on that work on timing chain,i see that aircondition hose is like baloon almost gone 😎👍
Nice work, thanks for sharing 👍…Best change my oil soon ! Having said that an oil change won’t stop those plastic rails from failing.
Worse thing on mine is the clutch… horrible grabby action apparently it’s a common fault.
Such a great video .. thanks for your time
Glad you like it 😊
Great video, would have like to have seen how the tensioners came off as well as how the chain was removed plus a bit of info about refitting those parts. wasnt sure if there was some adjustment needed to the tensioners or if it self adjusted? Thanks
Sorry about the video not being fully informative. Tension does not need adjustments. It adjusts by itself once you remove the pin.
Wow exactly what my car is doing now 😂 but it's at the workshop❤
Im in the middle of this exact job - when removing the old tensioner there was no gasket - when i opened the new tensioner in the kit there was no gasket either - did you fit the new tensioner with or without a gasket as there is an oil line feeding into the tensioner from the block - after fitting everything and pulling the pin making the chain tight i manually cranked for a while - oil in the oil pump started flowing and oil started coming from the tensioner - im wondering if this oil is hydraulic of just lubracating the tensioner inside parts - cheers
just to add - when i got the timing cover plate off I was expecting to find worn out chain guides like you did here - but my chain guides were in good condition , little wear - but what i did find was that the chain tensioner looks like it stopped extending - there was bout inch and half gap between tensioner piston and chain guide ....... causing chain to be loose - and when i swing chain guide to tensioner and they hit it made metalic sound , same sound i was having from the engine when it was running - failing guides from wear and failing tensioners on same engine = reason so many complaints about this engine
Nice work😁
I agree!😵💫
Change the oil regularly on cars with a cam chain
Cool job. Thanks for the video
on sandero tce the chain starts making noise at 146,000 km. it makes a noise like a tappet. and in release like turning the pedals of a bicycle in reverse
My did the same at exactly those kilos.
The same thing is happening to me right now at 146958km
Great job mate!
Thanks a lot man. I will resolve the same problem with your video. I m a bit worried about loosing timing, but if i understood it s not difficult to turn the poulies for retiming?...
Two little questions please, on others creepy videos 😂, i saw they drope the top carter, is it useless please?
And have i to drope the 3 sparks and plug? Thanks
Hi. You don't need to remove the top cover. If you want have more control of the camshafts for not go out of alignment you can remove the top cover and lock the camshafts with a vise plyers. That way they will not move. Its a easy job. Take your time. Following my video you will be fine. U don't need to remove the sparks plugs. But is easy to rotate the engine with them out. Thanks 😊
excellent video, well explained and done. thanks rodders
Well done!!! 👍
you did great
Thanks
Nice Video!!!
Unfortunately, my English is bad
do you have to support the engine when removing the engine mount?
Hello, did u remove the watter Pump and Change it too? And the alternator belt was changed too? Thanks
The belt also mover the pump.....
Same problem here in France with my Captur 0.9 TCe 90.
Bonjour, moi aussi même pb, un peu moins bruyant, mais idem. 3500e chez Renault c est des fous, j ai tout commandé pour 300e avec pompe a eau kit ditri et kit access, et je vais le faire..
ciao ho una logan Tce 0,9 mi chiedevo dopo quanti km va sostituita?
When It sound....use 0w40 oil.
what is the reason you changed the chain?
Rattling noise quite loud, down to a broken chain guide. ☺️
@@axores20 I have the same problem sir I feel like doing it my self but feeling scared for sum videos you cut out like how does the chain come off
@@cheslendutoit2459 yes because the timing did jump out i was focused to put it right that's why i didn't use the camera. Take off undo the tensioner. Then the guards on one side or both sides works better, chain will come iff easy. Is not a difficult job. Just takes time.
Very good. Did you have to remove the "3 screws" or not?
Hello, what screws you mean?
the 3 screws near in the middle just behind the small pouley. I ha the reponse: yes. Dou you have the torque of the motor support? The torque of the screws on the carter are 55Nm and 25 Nm@@axores20
@@emmanuelbardamu6204 you have to remove those 3 screws as they help bolt the timing plate to the block - prob to add extra strength to the pully above them
What sounds was it making, as mine it has 55k and a squicky sound?
Hi. If you check the beginning of the video the loud sound is there mate. Is like a grinding sound.
How much did they ask for it please? I had mine replaced for 1600e for the same reason, the guide broke..
They quote over 1k to do this job. I done it for much less than that 😜
Was it gonna be a problem if youhad only changed the guard?
I personally recommend you change all to avoid problems in the future mate ☺️
@@axores20 Yes i wanna do that today
@@tumim8271 easy job to do. Just take your time. You be fine mate ☺️
Is this a interference engine?
Yes it is 😊
Hi I have 520d I put wrong fuil needs high pressure pump how can I make contact
Hi. By email I believe you can do it 🙂
What's your email did you receive my contract number
@@travisburnes1908 people normal contact me through here, i believe is a way to reach my email. I cannot write my personal information here.
How much do you charge to change fuel pump on f10
@@travisburnes1908 hi. What year is the car?
You placed the timing chain marks incorrectly. The colors on the chain are supposed to be placed on each timing mark on the engine. That's the only thing done wrong, I noticed, but you got the engine running.
I didn't. I lost the footage when the chain was placed before the turn twice. That mark is just a guide. You don't really need to rely on them. ☺️
Doesn't she have a problem with the LP part of her AC? Looks like the tube is going to blow up..
Just the skin of the pipe. So its fine. I told her needs to be done at some point
Hello, I have the same car and also 0.9tce engine. My timingchain after chain rattle when reving above 3000rpm has been replaced including oil pump, but ever since the car is shaking a lot when driving. The mechanic told that when he was starting the car in the morning before, the engine turned over but did not go forward or backwards. He did a compression test: Cylinder 2 compression is 7.0 bar and Cylinder 1 and 3 has 12.0 bar. When looking with a camera inside the engine, you can see a little valve mark on the pistons. When performing a leak test, you don't hear air escaping. Is it okay to drive the car in this condition? Or do I need a new or used Cylinder head? Please advise and thanks for helping! Or could the compression loss come fromd something else, like bent piston? Check engine light only flashed like 4 times. Did not stay on. There was a fault: P0300. The mechanic said with the Bosch scanner it was multiple misfire cylinder 2
Hi thanks for checking my videos 😊. Did the car run ok before timing chain done? Forget about rattles i mean power wise?
For what you saying the mechanic did something wrong. If the car drove to his garage fine and was rattle only above 3000 rpm i would say he did something wrong. Perhaps timing the engine wrong to start with? This car i was working on was worst than yours for what you did described, and when i remove the cover the chain went out of timing. I manage put put and the car running perfect. I believe he did something wrong to start with my friend
@@axores20 The car was driving absolutely fine. I never had a check engine light before with this car and powerwise was everything fine.
@@axores20What can I do to fix this problem. Do you think about new valves or new cylinder head + head gasket?
@@johnnyvdpijll2927 well if they are really bent then yes. Head needs to come off and have them replace surface the head and fit with new headgasket. But we dont know if this mechanic did put the car out of timing. Even if is like he says the engine didn't turn over, don't believe the starter will bent the valves, unless he was trying to many times or push the car to start. He never will tell you the truth. But car was at his garage therefore is his responsibility.
There is something wrong with that AC line m8.
pls change your oil every 10000km.
longer intervals kills these engines
No worse than a cambelt change, the chain guides will never get past 100,000 miles just like a cambelt will not. Changing the guides early may be a cheap fix than waiting for them to fail and then buying a chain too. Must be a cam lock device out there for a 90 TCE? Just looked at a timing chain kit - £105 - I would change the lot............
Hi. Yes i got one. But i normally use the arrow points as reference. I did change all the original kit from Renault. The car has high mileage so it did last a long time actually.
These engines are garbage...they have what Renault calls DLC on the bores ..Diamond Like Coating.....this coating wears off around 90k miles..usually when the warranty is just out ..once the cross hatch is gone no more compression ...there a throw away engine...
To be honest i am not fan of them. I believe is a weak design.
I have seen one 287.000 km whithout the problem you say.
im in the middle of changing my timing chain - 130k on the clock - hand cranking the crank with plugs in and the compression is so high i can bearly turn by hand ....... and thats on all 3 cylinders , so dont know what your on about - i guess it also depends on how well an engine is looked after
Nonsense. These engines can do 600 000 miles if you maintain it well. Oil should be changed every 5000 to 6000 miles.
That buldge is called a bulb, it used when the car completely runs out of fuel , you need to pump that a few times to release vapor lol....the engine is crap and there's lack of a quiet drive, bad engine design, bad performer on steep hills, can barely challenge morning highway traffic rush, without the turbo this car is useless.
That is the pipe from air-conditioning. Nothing to do with the fuel. The pipe has a leak inside. That's why is like this. Her Aircon don't work anyway so she does have a leak somewhere inside of that pipe. That system you talking about is more used at diesel engines which has no fuel pump in the tank. Petrol always have a fuel pump inside the tank, therefore you wont need that valve to push fuel up. 🙂
And one thing we both agree, not a good design this engine. I did 2 more timing chain after this one. They easy to do. Last one has 56k on the clock, tensioner did fail. So low mileage for this to happen.
@@axores20 Thanks for correcting me, I own the stepway cross, I've owned it for 2 years and I drive it at 2000rpm all the time but the chain has started making noise like it's a diesel engine, it's frustrating . Yes I like the fact that I save alot on fuel but the quality of the entire vehicle is questionable.
I've had no issues with mine. 150000km. Just replaced timing kit once as per manufacturer instructions at 90000km.
That bulge is nothing to do with fuel. Something happened there, not supposed to look like that.