Raspberry Pi 4: More Active Cooling!
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- Raspberry Pi 4 cooling with Pimoroni Fan SHIM, 52Pi ICE Tower Cooler, and Noctua 40mm fan in 3D printed mount. Includes Sysbench CPU stress tests, and comparison of results with passive cooling in my earlier “Raspberry Pi 4 Cooling” video: • Raspberry Pi 4 Cooling
The Fan SHIM and ICE Tower Cooler featured in this video were supplied by Pimoroni and 52Pi for review, but this is not a sponsored video.
The Pimoroni Fan SHIM is on their website here: shop.pimoroni.com/products/fa...
And the Pirmoroni Pi 4 Pibow Coupe 4 case is on their website here:
shop.pimoroni.com/products/pi...
The 52Pi ICE Tower Cooler is on their website here: wiki.52pi.com/index.php/ICE-T...
The ICE Tower is also on Amazon.com here: amzn.to/2LSLzM8 & Amazon.co.uk here: amzn.to/2Y2W3AN (affiliate links).
And the ICE Tower can be purchased from Seeed Studio here: www.seeedstudio.com/ICE-Tower...
The Noctua AF NF-A4x20, 40x20mm 5V fan used in my own 3D printed mount can be found on Amazon.com here amzn.to/2l6A0Y6 -- and on Amazon.co.uk here: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071W6JZV... (affiliate links).
The STL files for my 3D printable mount can be found on Thingiverse here:
www.thingiverse.com/thing:374...
You can also access the CAD on Tinkercad - the top is here: www.tinkercad.com/things/5oV1... and base here: www.tinkercad.com/things/0yoT... Or go to www.tinkercad.com/ and search for explainingcomputers. Do note that you want the Pi 4B top, not the Pi 1B 2B 3B top. :)
To put everything together, you will need 4 x M2 25mm bolts an 4x M2 nuts to fix the Pi in the mount (or 20mm bolts if you just use the top portion), as well as 4 x M3 15mm (or longer) bolts and 4 x M3 nuts to position the fan (well, you could get away with just two nuts and bolts).
To power a Noctua fan, you will also need to wire up two jumper leads to plug into the Pi. I personally often buy a pack like this: shop.pimoroni.com/products/ju... and then cut them up as required in different projects.
More videos on single board computers and broader computing topics can be found on the ExplainingComputers channel: / explainingcomputers
You may also like my other channel, ExplainingTheFuture, at: / explainingthefuture
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There is one more test you need to do. Put the Noctua fan on the Ice Tower
An, I never thought of that. :) Nice idea.
@@ExplainingComputers We await your results :)
i had the same thought
Someone is aiming to achieve room temperature)))
@@DudeSkinnyTall Come over here to the UK in winter :-D
I have the Ice Tower for the 4B. I first attached it with one of the heat pads that came in the box, and got a very respectable *idle temperature of about 32C.* After watching this, I remembered I had some Arctic MX-2 thermal paste left from building my PC, so I removed the pad and put some paste on the chip, and assembled it again. This time the *idle temperature was 26C!* So it really is worth getting some thermal paste if you want to get the absolute best results from this great cooler. Also, the newest firmware (as of March 2020) reduces CPU temps by around 10C by limiting power to the USB bus. It also allows you to overclock both the CPU to 2GHZ and the GPU to 600MHZ (which does void your warranty). So having this cooler and upgrading the firmware is a must if you want to overclock!
I don't even have a Raspberry Pi, but these videos are so relaxing and well made I watch them all anyways lol..
I know right!? Chris just has such a positive and warm way of presenting things. It really makes you want to watch! - I don't have an SBC yet either, but this is making me want one, lol.
You, sir, need ASMR videos. I recommend ua-cam.com/video/NKa4FocBxJo/v-deo.html
just call it what it is asmr
No, it's called CHARISMA. 👍
Buy one, put it in a Pimoroni case and just put it on the side board, great ornament.
11:09 That excitement is such an unexpected feel good moment. Loving this.
I was getting ready to comment about running the tower cooler with some MX4 instead of thermal pads.. then you pull out a tube of MX4. Good lad.
Would be another datapoint, do the test again with a thermal pad instead of the paste to see what the difference in performance there is.
@Dmon1Unlimited I remember quite a few years ago I was using the original pi with thermal pads (Akasa) along with a generic ram heatsink and was getting ~10°C over ambient temperature, which was pretty good considering the cost for it all. Keep in mind that I was also using these in conjunction with a very small (40mm) casefan I had rigged up, running it of the USB port.
Your videos are excellent. Your narration is excellent. The way you deliver information is top level professional.
Love the cuts to the high resolution close up photos, nice editing, thanks!
I like this guy’s style. Smooth. Concise. Informative. No rambling.
I really love SBC Videos.
I always love your work
Very interesting. Back in the day, we’d test the fans every week. It was easier than troubleshooting a heat related issue. Thanks from Orlando.
Return of the radical cooling! Your excitement for the ICE Tower is contagious. Cool video.
Awesome stuff! All tests completed in 10 minutes, so computational performance seems the same. I agree a good passive solution is ideal. Can't wait for your next video!
It like a tiny gaming rig. Wish there was a tiny little graphics card you could plug on to it. So cute.
Yes, it so needs a tiny graphics card.
Maybe one that plugs into the DSI connector?
I have just setup my pi with an ice tower + noctua. The fan is connected to the 3.3v pin and is basically silent. A bit overkill but It works beautifully! 👍 Thanks for the great video!
Thank you for these cooling tests. Looking forward to your passive cooling tests! By the way, I now have a Raspberry Pi 4 Computer Desktop Kit. Your video on it was a great influence in my ordering it. Thanks!
Terrific video! Thanks for all the hard work you do to produce these amazing videos.
Awesome video! Your excitement is pleasant to watch. :)
Looking forward to the review of the official Raspberry Pi 4 AIO water pump!
That was i thinking about it
Well, you did it again! I'm off to order more Pi peripherals! Awesome content, as always.
Excellent product. Thanks for a thorough review, Chris!
Missed title name:
slowly building up the rasperry pi until we can no longer call it a 'small' computer.
I've never seen anyone so excited to see a blue LED.
The ice tower does look like a beast, though 😀
He He He
This ICE tower cooler is AMAZING! What a lovely cooling solution!
Congrats on the 500K! That's awesome and well deserved!
Thanks.
Right imma buy that ice tower right now. Those are some amazing temps
I think the Fan Shim is excellent and makes the Pi4 seem like a Pi SBC . Whilst the result of the ICE Tower is incredibly impressive, I just think it makes the Pi4 seem too big and, for me anyway, it goes against the point of the Pi SBC form factor. It does mean there is a fair bit of head room for overclocking the Pi4 though.
I can see the Fan Shim board connectors succumb to huge oxidation issues down the line. It really needs a proper connector or to be soldered into place
I now have two ice tower cooing solutions on the way. I thought I purchased adequate cooling until I ran "stress" and hit 80 C in less than five minutes. Thanks again for your videos.
Congratiulations to 500k subscribers!
Thanks. Special video tomorrow. :)
This is really fun, I can warmly reccomend the Flirc case it is made of solid aluminium with a heatsink, and so it is soundless
I would definitely recommend active cooling. My pi 3 could barely run UA-cam before I installed a heat sink and fan. Plus I couldn't run Ubuntu Mate without it crashing after 5 mins. Once I installed the fan I had no problems.
Another fantastic video - I look forward to the passive cooling one.
Came back to this video when I put together a Raspberry Pi 4B bundle! Thanks for making this video, so I could now buy the best cooler for it. :)
Thanks for watching -- and note my follow-up video, with some updated results and more options! :)
Looks like a mini hyper 212 evo ;)
EC: Explaining Cooling
That ICE Tower does a fantastic job it opens up the Pi4 to a lot more tasks. Thanks Chris.
When you exclaimed "it's even illuminated" though. Adorbs!!!
Nice..! The ICE Tower Cooler gives it a little ''je ne sais quoi''. I can see that on my desktop.
Wow those are impressive figures from the Ice Tower, it makes the Pi look very gamer too lol, I can't help but think it needs a miniaturised version of the desktop case you used in your Ryzen 3 build.
Tetris in 1080p
That ICE Tower Cooler is really impressive. I'm glad to see that you finally get it and test it Mr B.
Very well done, I love all your videos, they are very enlightening, thx!
When you disconnected the fan, it became a an air baffle that heavily restricted airflow across the cooler. I'd repeat the test with the fan uncrewed and a belt and braces, with the fins vertically to see if convection occurs - I doubt it but it might
I'm looking forward to when Raspberry sends you a kit for a quantum computer and you show us how to have our own. Cheers.
:)
As always very interesting video. I congratulate for 500,000 subscribers.
Thanks. :)
I always like your content and watch per week. I finally got my first SBC, and am actually using it to comment right now. Its a Raspberry pi. Thanks for showing me these neat little gadgets!
Great to hear. :)
OH! ITS BLUE! It s amazing!!! I love it. It's blue. So cool ...
ice ice baby! next video, liquid cooled overclocking raspberry pi 4! :D
This UA-camr is great also...and has done a liquid cool on a prior pi version. ua-cam.com/video/zKJRbcmKiFQ/v-deo.html
Liquid cooling the SoC is actually not as effective as a fan. Apparently, more than the SoC generates heat.
That was amazing. Thought that the large heat sink was a hoot. Thanks for the video.
Just another terrific video. Thanks so much for a thorough, thoughtful analysis. You are a terrific teacher. THANKS.
Some regular 60 mm fan, set at low speed to not be noisy would probably be most effective as it will remove potentional heat from everything 😂.
The ICE Tower visuals and the cooling offered are certainly impressive, but, always in my humble opinion, spoil what is one of the biggest advantages of the pi... the small size factor.
Having said that it really looks cool and I'll agree it would look awesome in a custom built case... say, an Artoo unit... Thanks for this video!
Very impressed by the cooler, and the attention to detail with the package contents, but would agree that it seems to go against the spirit of the Pi.
I have to admit that I was not thinking, "Yeah, but how does the Ice Tower perform without the fan?" Good job on being thorough.
Another fantastic video. Thanks Chris.
well when it gets hot enough to actually bake a pie, time for cooler haha
I remember back in the days, someone cooled a computer with non-conductive oil, but IIRC it caused problem with HDD or something, plus it was massive.
I'm curious if this would be a good solution for tiny single board computers.
Another great video!! I love extreme cooling videos :D
woh. Again an amazing video. looking forward to the test with passive cooling. Maybee overclocking in it? Ordered the Flirq, still shipping. Have my Pi 4 4Gb run stable on 1600MHz with simple fan 50°C. Waiting for the Flirq to arrive to overclock more. Keep up and congratulations with the 500K .
nice. i may get the Fanshin if i buy a Pi4. the Icetower is cool, probably the better solution for people who dont move their Pi around too much.
The Fan SHIM is excellent, very easy to fit, and very practical. The ICE Tower is just cool! :)
I have a fan shim, and it does work very nicely indeed. Snug fit, and quiet as well. Chris' performance test fits my experience of it as well.
@Space Monkey Based on what assessment? What is so wrong with a Raspberry Pi?
@Space Monkey in other words, only buy a Pi if you can affort a 10 dollar active cooling setup.
In my opinion, there's benefits to the Noctua and Fan Shim setup: controller cooling including Ethernet and USB.
Just put it in a fridge
So much excitement for blue LED (@ 11:07). We can only imagine how much more exciting it would be with full RGB!
The V2.0 support the RGB FAN,you can check it here
ua-cam.com/video/FciNotr6d6g/v-deo.html
What a great and useful video! :) Thank you! I really think you should try the Noctua fan with the ice tower. They are usually way more effective and powerful than any other option, especially the cheaper ones that come with the ice tower.
But most of all thank you once again for the great content!
I was hoping you would show result with thermal pad.
Raspberry Pi 4: The Pentium-4 of SBCs
Very interesting! Thank you for this video.
always your videos simple and amazing 👍
thank you 🧡
When you're testing with the 52Pi ICE Tower Cooler in the passive mode, could you please post the results where you have oriented the RPi4 to make the fins of the Tower Cooler vertical rather than horizontal? If you don't have a fan running, convective air flow will play a big role in how effectively it will cool the RPi4. And convective air flow works best when the fins are vertical.
Would have been interesting to see the difference between the thermal pad and thermal compound.
I've seen a few 86_64 tests and it is minimal, I now use the pads for SBC and some 86_64. Temperatures aren't so critical because the overclocking thing isn't the same, just keep below throttling and really you are done- unlike competative 86-64 overclocking.
Hi Chris. I liked the no-punches-pulled approach you take with your reviews. The only thing that comes to my mind is what happens ( God forbid ) when the fan craps out and you ( or someone ) are so wrapped up in their work that you don't notice. I think that there should be some sort of audible alarm just in case, maybe I'm paranoid but in matters like this, I like to wear suspenders and a belt. Great review. Cheers.
Excelente video, ya esperaba el review de éste Ice tower. Me gustan mucho tus videos, explicas muy bien. Sigo tu canal desde hace mucho tiempo, saludos desde México.
Thanks -- greetings back from the UK. :)
Would have been cool to see the difference between ice cooler with pad vs paste
Jim Evans yes I was thinking of the same thing!
I would expect paste to give the better results as long as the mounting brackets allow enough pressure to be applied
yea that tower is probably helpful if you overclock to 2ghz and stress your pi 24/7.
Great video , clear and concise as always...I have been using old sky HD box fans from scrapped boxes to cool my pi's they're 40mm and 12v...and very quiet ..you also get a 500gb/1tb HDD as well ... a lot of people just chuck them out when they cancel sky tv...note the Q boxes are owned by Sky so you shouldn't scrap those.
That Ice Tower cooler is so cute!
Computers really are an amazing thing to behold.
The FAN SHIM has an RGB LED. Does that turn your Raspberry Pi 4 into a gaming machine?
Does Retropie count ?
Thank you so much for your brilliant work!
I love your channel! Great video!
Check out the new Pi 4 case from Flirc. It's lovely and works very well for cooling, too.
It will form part of my final Pi 4 video on passive cooling solutions! :)
@@ExplainingComputers I find that while it works, it ends up too toasty to hold under load. Interested to see your tests and results on it.
As it happens, I just got one of those and ran the same test on it. Starting from 35 C seconds after booting, it hit 61 C at the end of the test, and idles around 55 C long term. The case has quite a lot of thermal mass, so temperatures move slowly. It takes a long time to fully heat up, and a very long time to cool back down. It's hot to the touch at the end of the test...Allowing it to hit its 56 C idle first, it heats to 71 C in this same test.
Testing another pi4 in the Canakit case, modified to mount a Noctua fan on top, and using their "joke" heatsinks, I got a little bit better results than Chris; I think the airflow in my version is a bit better in terms of the path it takes - but it looks horrible by comparison. For that one, I got 51 C top temperature, it idles in the low 40s.
I think my room might have been around 1-2 C cooler than his (It does depend where in the room you measure, around here).
The fan is clearly the winner in all tests, his and mine. It's so good I'm thinking about trying to run it down in speed, or make it switched, like the pimoroni fan. I got the "thicker" Noctua (same as shown here) - there's now a thinner version on Amazon, which is probably less air and more noise. Be careful in ordering.
@@ExplainingComputers I have a Pi 4 flirc case. My pie idles higher than most (started at 60C after a month it has dropped to 50C(ish)). Under load the case is quite warm (so there is good cpu to case contact). Since the bottom seals the case, I was wondering about using some 10mm(ish) standoffs between the bottom of the board and the base cover to allow some airflow into the case. The standoffs would need to be long enough to clear the SD card slot. I have no local source for 2.5mm stuff and shipping is about 10X the cost of the standoffs. Any chance you could give it a try? Thanks
@@bradquinn4161 I will certainly be testing the Flirc case in a video here soon. :)
Now add a Peltier to the Ice Cooler. LOL
That really is an excellent idea, but it would need its own power supply. Get the Pi running below room temperature!
What would that achieve though? Any of these cooling solutions is sufficient to stop the processor from throttling so what is to be gained by more exotic solutions?
@@johnm2012 Probably nothing. Just fun screwing around. Go Cryogenic. Overclock the chit out of the thing.
@@johnm2012 Cooler temperatures = longer lifespan.
@@ozzymandius666 On air cooling alone the silicon is well away from the danger zone. Cooling it further wouldn't improve longevity by any measurable amount. Even running it without any active cooling at all is safe, but it throttles.
Nice and interesting video, as usual :)
Great review
Why is it that mobile phone processors, which are much more powerful don't require this level of cooling?
Phones likely throttles more and do bigLITTLE tricks, plus some advanced scenarioed power managment avoidances usually to prolong battery life etc..
That managment could go as far as that even user hands act as cooler too 😂
RPi 4 as aimed also for Desktop does not calculate as all 4 cores are BIG and that cries for a fan to not throttle in intensive scenarios such a stress benchmarks. Plus some people like to OC it too, so 😂
If you use fan, your phone will remain caseless. So you can't really hold it.
If you use heatsink, the case will be too hot for you to hold it.
So best way is just to throttle it.
If you confine the processor to do what a phone normally does (as Milan Kostić says), the rp4 will probably run cool. The benchmark just flogs the processor as hard as it can go.
When you have a small factor pc and the only way to effectively cool it makes it 4 times as big 🤔😂
an NUC has way higher performance and smaller package
Thanks for the idea what to do after church. I haven't played with my Pi4 much. I need one of those ice towers, blue sealed the deal!
This video was really COOL! Thanks for the chin wag mate!!
Next video liquid cooled raspberry pi 4
Cryo cooled.
yay! but i'm confused... Why no water cooling?? no nitrogen?? But don't you know we want a 5ghz pi?? XD
The Ice Tower cooler look awesome
And it's ICE Tower for the win! The prices on these coolers are all very reasonable also. I'd like to get some plastic sheet and build a case around the Pi 4 with the ICE Tower installed. I know 3D printers are the big thing now, but I'd go 'old school' for a project like this. Thanks for another great video Chris.
I like building from plastic sheet too. :)
I Cool a Raspberry pie with ice cream...lol
:)
I did with raspberry flavour, i did 10 degrees lower from the vanilla one
A vanilla build. Boom boom
@@MB-THX1138 ohhhh
...and who needs a case when you have a plate.
Could you try installing Windows 10 on a RPi4
I understand it can be done! I have several Pi 4 videos planned.
Ok cool, been researching to do this with my Pi 4
The extra power offers a lot of possibilities!
That tower cooler is so cute. And it seems like a neat fit for emulator boxes that dont need to be super small but could really use some overclocking.
Also maybe it work work better passively if it was at a 90° angle so the warm air can pass through the fins better.
Another very interesting video. Glad you give prices in Sterling and US Dollars.
Yes back again with my favorite Nerd with an IQ of 160
The ice tower is so cute on that Pi!
The Power of the Tower. The ICEMAN commith and it was COoL. Thank you 👍😁
Clear, informative, interesting, thank you.
Mr. Icetower is the cutest heatpipe heatsink I have ever seen. It is so sweet I'm getting a toothache.
Can't wait for the passive cooling solutions on the Rpi4. Bought myself a very neat FLIRC case for my Rpi3B a while back, never overheats, no noise, looks slick, very cool, indeed.
I love that ice tower so much too! its awesome. I just cant wait till better os comes out for the pi like windows etc
I'm working on a video looking at five P 4 distros . . . :)
What a lovely ice tower!