I can’t believe this is how your entire channel comes crashing down. Really sorry to hear, man! I enjoyed the videos a lot. It was a fantastic run while it lasted.
I think Rashid is the perfect illustration for these concepts as a whole. He gets oki after everything, he puts you in the corner in 2 seconds, he can scape the corner with maybe 4 to 5 different options. He doesn't always have to spend meter, but if he does he can apply safe pressure, his V-Triggers are very good for 2 bars and his throw game is one of the best in SFV. He also has reliable button and command AAs and useful V-Skill. He's got everything. And I almost forgot, you cannot V-Reversal his Super. Meanwhile, we also have Nash.
@@ShadesOfGuitar the difference between akumas and the average character is only 100 or so health. That's like an extra ex move in a combo, throw, or a cmk xx hadouken. Getting one less minor exchange in return for outstanding options overall is always worth it and why overloaded characters with low health like yun, evil ryu and akuma are generally very good.
@@ShadesOfGuitar Akuma in 3rd strike has low HP in V he is just slightly squishy. Huge difference IMO, as an Akuma main I can freely admit that he is pretty damn strong in this game.
@@ShadesOfGuitar I can't think of a main series game where akuma isn't top tier. The slightly lower health than everyone else is inconvenient I guess you could say but the tools you get to work with are definitely more than compensating. Not hatin on the character, but generally the design of akuma makes it so that he excels at offense so well his bad defense is still better than more well rounded fighters. Imo
A top tier character is a character who can capitalize on any situation, especially when their guess are right, also, their V-Trigger tools are useful on any given situation
I saw Falke, but only as a punching bag! That means she's bottom tier. In all seriousness though she's well-balanced, just her V triggers and V skills suck compared to the rest of the cast
Truths spoken by HiFight. Biggest advantage top-tiers seem to have are buttons and moves that have little to no risk and/or stupid hit/hurtboxes. Here's hoping the upcoming patch addresses them.
Funny thing is they said they weren't gonna nerf stronger characters but buff weaker ones. That's gone out the window, and now they're nerfing everyone.
Great video to make people understand what makes some characters very strong. I do think SFV has decent balance. I'm excited to see what's going to happen this year.
No doubt the game is balanced. A good player can make low tier very viable. But in any fighting game with a varied cast there will always be top and low tier. It's a fact of life and no way to avoid it.
More VTs need to be like Vega, Karin, Zeku, Ryu, Sakura, Cody, Kolin VT1 etc Something that gives you an added option or pressure or combo extension without being game changing. There are too many VTs in this game that when the opponent activates its ggs. Kolin VT2 , Akuma VT1, G VT1, Urien VT1, Laura VT1 etc these change the tide of the game way too much.
@@anotherinternetperson8495 I think Karin triggers are preety balanced, all things considered. They're just not amazing. But she's got everything else with the exception of great anti-airs. Also, can't forget how great her v-reversal fits in her game, especially when used to keep the corner pressure like Punk usually does. She's in a preety good place now, imo. It would be hard to give her crazy v-trigger without breaking her.
I've always said that either he should get two rose uses or multiple uses of his vt2...it doesn't make sense for others to have something similar and work better than his...it's things like this that make me think characters like him they intentionally make sure they're weak out of fear of them being strong
@@TheFightingGentleman Outside of his VT, I just want more moves. Several ideas I have: qcf+K: pressing d+K during the roll will let Vega cancel into his slide. No input makes him do the regular attack which should be an overhead. In claw mode, he can also press P during the roll to end with his classic stab that has tons of pushback. qcf+P: should get and EX version that recovers much faster (more combos) and also replenishes his claw's health (or replaces claw if he lost it.
@@MansMan42069 while i agree he should have an ex claw switch, i don't think he really needs any more moves...the biggest weakness vega has is that he's the only character with moves that can be lost throughout the match with no ability to regain them...i would prefer that his claw normals, outside of f+heavy, be fully cancelable instead just to claw switch
Let's be honest If one of the best players picked up ryu/ken they'd be called top tier Fang and Honda will probably go up in japanese lists thanks to daigo
@@anotherinternetperson8495 Daigo has played Ryu for how long now? He plays him for fun on stream and openly states that he’s not good enough for competitive play in his current state, he considered playing Kage in tournament because he thought he had potential and then decided against it, in a recent video I saw he said if Ryu were better he’d consider using him but he finds Guile that fun that maybe he wouldn’t play him in this game even if he were to be improved and put on the same level as Guile.
@@anotherinternetperson8495 I don’t disagree that a good player can make a ‘worse character’ as deemed by the community bump up a couple tiers, but they’re definitely not going from a lower one to top tier, also, the reverse is true too. Sonicfox played Zamasu in season 2 (I think?) of DBFZ and nowadays he’s regarded as bottom 2-3 depending on who you ask, he used to be in A just because fox won tournaments with the character
I feel like I messed up what I meant here but what I’m trying to say is that the perception of a character isn’t always where they actually are, fox played a bad character and people thought he was good until others tried to play the same character, I believe that this same thing would happen if somebody came out and won majors with Ryu
I guess these are things most of us subconsciously know about top tier characters but it's nice having it presented in a way that compares with other characters.
Sugarpunch proposed making Kage an install V-Trigger for Ryu instead of his own character. Were it not for the storyline development of Gouken sealing the Satsui no Hadou, I would probably have preferred that.
because he's not broken. If he was easy to win with you'd see more players but only Tokido makes him work. Everyone else struggled to win with him major events
@@darkfeeels Yeah this is the most delusional comment I've seen in a long time, You must be one of the Akuma players who downplay him that I'm talking about in this comment.
His kit is too good. If they nerf him enough to take him from the top spot, he instantly goes to the bottom. They'd need to rebuild akuma from the ground up if they wanted to balance him. As it stands, he's in a pretty good place imo. Hard to use, has the best kit in the game, but not so broken that he wins all the tournaments or anything.
I think that instead of nerfing Akuma other characters should get buffed, because if you get rid of Akuma by nerfing him then the only thing that happens is Akuma gets removed from the meta, the game literally doesn’t change outside of that, if Nash or Alex got buffed to be as just outside of top tier then the game completely changes as the entire roster now need to learn to deal with these characters, which leads to shifts in the meta that are greater than just Akuma is no longer on top. Characters that would beat the new ‘high tier characters’ would by extension also go up, like if Gief all of the sudden was best in the game I’m sure Menat would also go up a lot as she can deal with Gief pretty easily, and still hold her own versus other characters too
@@SJNaka101 there is no 1 or 2 things on Akuma that could be nerfed to take him out top 10, he has been the best since his release so is it really gonna pain people to make him even the meet slightly balnced?Also I'm not sure where people are getting this Akuma difficulty thing from, when I tried them they were extremely easy to me.
I wish there was a part at the end that showed how many of each of these factors the most commonly rated top tiers have. Great informative video though
@HiFight if you tweet this.......you'll have my support on this one my bro!!! Ill definitely speak on this. I'm glad you saying something about it.. GUD SHITTTTTT
This is a really great video! It really brings a higher level of understanding of what's actually going on in a fight and how to map out a great character.
great breakdown. I'd definitely add fast heavy normals to the list along with multiple good/reliable AA options. And while having an invincible reversal doesn't automatically make you top tier, pretty-much every top tier has one (on top of all of their other privileges)
Friendly reminder that Nashs Vs2 is 53 recovery frames while all other charged vskills are 50. ( Blanka might be longer but he can dash cancel it ) . Give me one good reason why it needs to be 3f longer?
really nice topic man!i feel that apply for other fighting games too, specially the ability to turn neutral to combo, it really defines MK11 top tiers for exemple
For the last bit about v triggers, I'm glad someone else thought of my idea for giving vega more rose activations. I think his VT1 and nash's vt1 should have an additional use after activation.
@@imnot9923 Ok and? There's always going to be a worse character in any game so what's you point. If Ryu is not worst then then another shot would be. Doesn't matter. I'd rather Ryu be the worst then the best cause his gameplay is extremely simple
I find if funny that people always talk about Ryu being low tier or the worst in the game when we have players like Tjommmi and MDZ_jimmY putting that to rest almost daily.
Good points. Reason #1 is definitely why Seth is so heavily used at high levels (SFL / tournaments), #2 is why Akuma is so OP, #3 is why Rashid is considered high tier, and #5 is why Kolin and Urien are considered top tier (and G is robbery)
Very respectful and commendable for those last 10seconds of the vid to not cover up your patreons. More UA-cam videos need a couple more seconds to not have those abomination pop-ups on screen. Also great video!
@@chachawho435 reactable?😂 bc every pro in SF-League or in ranked reacts to every single one, right? They just never work..🤨 most overheads aren't really reactable and some can even get big conversions.
@@johannzinnitz8893 They close out rounds every now and again but you guys aren't low tier because of it. Cammy and bison don't have overheads and they are fine. You guys do need however good normals and a better presence in the mid range.
@@chachawho435 fair enough. But having such an option would clearly help. Without bar its so difficult to get mixups or openings in the corner. I play Necalli too( Platinum) and i got various people with 3 overheads/ command grabs in a row ^^
Really i really wish to have a good neutral or a option to escape corner with Gill. When you see that you have to sacrifice damage in order to get oki. Spend meter to gain a chance to get more damage. (If you don't have 2 bars this conversion do less damage) Is really bad to make Gill works in neutral game.
An important thing to remember is that the whole discussion of top tier characters is basically just math. If you have better frames, options, etc and they're not to difficult to learn, you can do pretty well with them, it doesn't hurt your odds. This however doesn't mean that someone of great skill can't take a lower tier character and beat the odds, they can, but it does mean that they're probably putting in more work and they're also taking a risk that they know how to handle.
You dont have to worry about your lifebar if you have more ways to kick opponent's A S S,who thinks like this don't consider the huge amount of options that akuma and seth have. Sorry,my engrish is bad
Something wrong with that statement? Pretty sure you misread Akuma with Full Bar once or twice, you are pretty much dead, same goes for Seth. Big DMG Fast but also die fast since their health stat is not that much
Personally I see the ability to make an intentionally dangerous universal game mechanic safe as a very strong thing to have for a top tier character. Like Seth VS1 making ppl afraid to put out buttons in neutral gives him access to free dashes and walk ups, as well as axe kick giving him access to a somewhat safe way to jump in on his opponents. Akuma having air fireball giving him access to be able to come in by jump very safely, as well as that VT being whatever tf it is. Kolin VT2. Abigail. Ok now I’m getting a bit salty with these but you get my drift 😂
Fun fact. Since SF4 (arguably when sf became mainstream) Evo, including Evo Japan has only twice been won using characters who did not have a projectile attack. So if you want to win At SF, the first step is having a good projectile character.
The common underlier I've noticed for MOST cases of top tiers is an imbalance of risk/reward. Aka getting relatively too much value out of something that is either too safe or too easy. I feel like characters that crazy skill to get relatively too much reward with tend to not be problems - because not enough people play that character.
Whats so good about comand Grabs in Sf5? I mean theyre untechable, but is there more to it? Maybe more damage? OK, but something Hidden to the eye? In super turbo, yes, some did Not have a whiff Animation, OK this is huge! But what the Point in Sf5?
Yea, most of the health values don't justify the disparity in options between some characters. Most "low health" characters only have 10% less health than the average character. If health is going to be used as a balancing tool, it needs to be applied more liberally, like in gg's case. Chipp sure as fuck should be extremely squishy compared to potemkin, not just for aesthetic reasons, but because his options and movement give him way more versatility in approaching and pressure.
Definitely agree with this - it seems like the devs don't really understand how damage is dealt in this game. They tweak health up and down by 25 and 50 like it's actually doing something. But the reality is that very rarely does this make a difference between whether or not the other character dies after factoring in no chip kills and CA/VT combos with generous damage. The gap between the highest health and lowest health character is too small. Characters like Akuma and Seth doesn't feel particularly fragile considering this is supposed to be a major point of balance in the game.
What tool from V-trigger are you showing when you show akuma ? ... It'd had made 100,000 times more sense to show someone like Juri-Han zipping across the screen... or Dhalism setting the ground on fire... Or if it HAD to be a top tier V-trigger. Cammy going through with Drill kicks.
This video I think really puts some of the issues into a great visual example. Definitely things I dislike with the top tier disparity! SFV is the only fighter I've played where I have to play top tiers just to enjoy the game, and that's messed up. I started the game maining Fang and Gill, and NOT having some of the top tier options actually hampered my learning. One thing that IMO is a definitive top tier privilege not mentioned; The "go-to" pressure button. Almost every character has a st.MP which is +2/+3 on block, and confirmable on hit into a combo point blank. The attributes of this button really define the risk/reward in some matchups, and the disparity of what each character gets for this button is so odd. As an example, Gill's st.MP is a fantastic button on paper, but if he confirms into cr.MP > lariat he doesn't get good OKI. If you st.MP on OKI and they jump you can be put into a minus situation even on hit, so it doesn't very well fulfill it's role. Compared to Rashid st.MP, Akuma cr.MP, or Seth cr.MP. All of these lead back into the same situation, block or hit!
Yea this video definitely had to be made ! People do need to understand how much of an advantage they have with playing some of theses characters.Cr mk from a mile away into a combo is just ridiculous.Sagat not having a lot of options after a knock down is depressing,who the f is developing theses characters and how don’t they see this smh ?That balancing team is trash .
Majority of players who main the game need to see this. This is the facts that people keep ignoring since it's been out. But imho Champion Edition (only good version) is in a great place and can't ever say the same for the other trash versions of SFV.
A lot of these things are things every character should have in some capacity, a greater capacity than this game seems to allows for certain characters.
Excellent video man. This is what I hate most of this game lately. It has become (Or Maybe evolved?)a game where characters are constantly fishing/buffering with their best normals to get oki and proceed to put into a guess situation their opponent. You Guess wrong. Now you are close to stun, ggs. Very well explained.
![SFV Tips - How to Hit Confirm [Play Like the Pros]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RS_KZwcZeH4/mqdefault.jpg)
Typo at 3:58 >
Probably pin it, doesn't show at the top of the comments
I like the vid, would be cool to do it for other sf games
I can’t believe this is how your entire channel comes crashing down.
Really sorry to hear, man! I enjoyed the videos a lot. It was a fantastic run while it lasted.
No one saw it, too distracted by the glorious Alex dive
HIFIGHT! What's the music list used in the video?
HiFight said I’m done with the Twitter arguments
It's game design, the game is rigged from the start.
I think Rashid is the perfect illustration for these concepts as a whole. He gets oki after everything, he puts you in the corner in 2 seconds, he can scape the corner with maybe 4 to 5 different options. He doesn't always have to spend meter, but if he does he can apply safe pressure, his V-Triggers are very good for 2 bars and his throw game is one of the best in SFV. He also has reliable button and command AAs and useful V-Skill. He's got everything. And I almost forgot, you cannot V-Reversal his Super. Meanwhile, we also have Nash.
rashido damage is below average so he has to mix u up more times than other top tiers
"Oh no! Anyway..."
--Akuma players in literally any situation.
We can die in 2-3 touches tho! So much focus on the cannon, never the glass :(
@@ShadesOfGuitar It's SFV. Everyone except Abigail is dying in 2-3 touches.
@@ShadesOfGuitar the difference between akumas and the average character is only 100 or so health. That's like an extra ex move in a combo, throw, or a cmk xx hadouken. Getting one less minor exchange in return for outstanding options overall is always worth it and why overloaded characters with low health like yun, evil ryu and akuma are generally very good.
@@ShadesOfGuitar Akuma in 3rd strike has low HP in V he is just slightly squishy. Huge difference IMO, as an Akuma main I can freely admit that he is pretty damn strong in this game.
@@ShadesOfGuitar I can't think of a main series game where akuma isn't top tier. The slightly lower health than everyone else is inconvenient I guess you could say but the tools you get to work with are definitely more than compensating. Not hatin on the character, but generally the design of akuma makes it so that he excels at offense so well his bad defense is still better than more well rounded fighters. Imo
A top tier character is a character who can capitalize on any situation, especially when their guess are right, also, their V-Trigger tools are useful on any given situation
What i learned in this video: chun li can fly
• Scroll through entire video.
• Don’t see your main.
• “Ok, I’m mid-tier.”
I saw Ed, he is top tier now!
Basically
I saw Falke, but only as a punching bag! That means she's bottom tier. In all seriousness though she's well-balanced, just her V triggers and V skills suck compared to the rest of the cast
Truths spoken by HiFight. Biggest advantage top-tiers seem to have are buttons and moves that have little to no risk and/or stupid hit/hurtboxes. Here's hoping the upcoming patch addresses them.
*whilst still being hit confirmable
Funny thing is they said they weren't gonna nerf stronger characters but buff weaker ones. That's gone out the window, and now they're nerfing everyone.
This video is spot on. Being a ryu main, its been a rough 5 years😅
ryu is good try being a kage main ☠️
this is a quality fuckin video, gives me big MoldyBagel DBFZ vibes (which is definitely a good thing)
Exactly what I'm looking for, and exactly my sentiments brotha.
That Alex moment hit too hard 🥲
Great video to make people understand what makes some characters very strong. I do think SFV has decent balance. I'm excited to see what's going to happen this year.
No doubt the game is balanced. A good player can make low tier very viable. But in any fighting game with a varied cast there will always be top and low tier. It's a fact of life and no way to avoid it.
The game is fairly well balanced if VTs were taken out of the equation, but the game revolves too heavily around them
Yeah, Vega's VT1 being only one use is fucked up, what the hell.
*Laughs in Nash* Hahaha yeah I feel ya
Same for Karinw
More VTs need to be like Vega, Karin, Zeku, Ryu, Sakura, Cody, Kolin VT1 etc Something that gives you an added option or pressure or combo extension without being game changing. There are too many VTs in this game that when the opponent activates its ggs. Kolin VT2 , Akuma VT1, G VT1, Urien VT1, Laura VT1 etc these change the tide of the game way too much.
Same for Cammy
@@nO_d3N1AL Cammys is 2 uses. Its one use if you choose to spend both bars at once.
Yo that would be a legit buff for Vega if he had 3 uses of the rose.
I think I'd pick him up
Karin already has bad triggers
At least then I'd have a reliable antiair😂
@@anotherinternetperson8495 I think Karin triggers are preety balanced, all things considered. They're just not amazing. But she's got everything else with the exception of great anti-airs.
Also, can't forget how great her v-reversal fits in her game, especially when used to keep the corner pressure like Punk usually does.
She's in a preety good place now, imo. It would be hard to give her crazy v-trigger without breaking her.
I've always said that either he should get two rose uses or multiple uses of his vt2...it doesn't make sense for others to have something similar and work better than his...it's things like this that make me think characters like him they intentionally make sure they're weak out of fear of them being strong
@@TheFightingGentleman Outside of his VT, I just want more moves. Several ideas I have:
qcf+K: pressing d+K during the roll will let Vega cancel into his slide. No input makes him do the regular attack which should be an overhead. In claw mode, he can also press P during the roll to end with his classic stab that has tons of pushback.
qcf+P: should get and EX version that recovers much faster (more combos) and also replenishes his claw's health (or replaces claw if he lost it.
@@MansMan42069 while i agree he should have an ex claw switch, i don't think he really needs any more moves...the biggest weakness vega has is that he's the only character with moves that can be lost throughout the match with no ability to regain them...i would prefer that his claw normals, outside of f+heavy, be fully cancelable instead just to claw switch
i can only agree... just a 3f, ex dp etc doesnt make you top tier.. it needs more.. great video !
It’s a good basis for qualifying, I think?
Let's be honest
If one of the best players picked up ryu/ken they'd be called top tier
Fang and Honda will probably go up in japanese lists thanks to daigo
@@anotherinternetperson8495 Daigo has played Ryu for how long now? He plays him for fun on stream and openly states that he’s not good enough for competitive play in his current state, he considered playing Kage in tournament because he thought he had potential and then decided against it, in a recent video I saw he said if Ryu were better he’d consider using him but he finds Guile that fun that maybe he wouldn’t play him in this game even if he were to be improved and put on the same level as Guile.
@@anotherinternetperson8495 I don’t disagree that a good player can make a ‘worse character’ as deemed by the community bump up a couple tiers, but they’re definitely not going from a lower one to top tier, also, the reverse is true too. Sonicfox played Zamasu in season 2 (I think?) of DBFZ and nowadays he’s regarded as bottom 2-3 depending on who you ask, he used to be in A just because fox won tournaments with the character
I feel like I messed up what I meant here but what I’m trying to say is that the perception of a character isn’t always where they actually are, fox played a bad character and people thought he was good until others tried to play the same character, I believe that this same thing would happen if somebody came out and won majors with Ryu
I guess these are things most of us subconsciously know about top tier characters but it's nice having it presented in a way that compares with other characters.
I wish they would show my boy Kage some love. He needs it.
Sugarpunch proposed making Kage an install V-Trigger for Ryu instead of his own character. Were it not for the storyline development of Gouken sealing the Satsui no Hadou, I would probably have preferred that.
These same things apply in 4 as well. They pretty much all center around having to do less work for an advantageous situation. Nice vid
man just straight preached the Gospel!!
Thank you HiFight!
Dood, Vega would be so sick if he got 3 roses!
3 bars for three roses, 2 bars for 2. Should be like that.
3:58 is hilarious
Great vid btw
Poor Alex
For the strangest reason, i have a hard time with Alex on ranked... maybe there are just so few players that i just don't know the matchup :D
when you said no.5 i was expecting to see G vt1 stuff hahaha on another note it would be so cool if vega got two roses
If Urien gets two mirrors
why can't Vega get two roses?
Yes 2 roses or 3 at max, like his VT2
Nickkiller -07 that hit me in the feels
I really enjoyed this, enjoyable and informative.
This is an absolutely excellent video- thanks for articulating these concepts so clearly!
That's a really good breakdown.
I can't believe SFV's Christmas Stages unironically have the best music in the game.
Me, a Gill main, watching all these robbery tools and having none of them
At least we can make anyone foolish enough to jump in on us when we have a bar of meter regret their life decisions.
Akuma is in every example, But Akuma players still don't think he deserves a nerf
because he's not broken. If he was easy to win with you'd see more players but only Tokido makes him work. Everyone else struggled to win with him major events
@@darkfeeels Yeah this is the most delusional comment I've seen in a long time, You must be one of the Akuma players who downplay him that I'm talking about in this comment.
His kit is too good. If they nerf him enough to take him from the top spot, he instantly goes to the bottom. They'd need to rebuild akuma from the ground up if they wanted to balance him.
As it stands, he's in a pretty good place imo. Hard to use, has the best kit in the game, but not so broken that he wins all the tournaments or anything.
I think that instead of nerfing Akuma other characters should get buffed, because if you get rid of Akuma by nerfing him then the only thing that happens is Akuma gets removed from the meta, the game literally doesn’t change outside of that, if Nash or Alex got buffed to be as just outside of top tier then the game completely changes as the entire roster now need to learn to deal with these characters, which leads to shifts in the meta that are greater than just Akuma is no longer on top. Characters that would beat the new ‘high tier characters’ would by extension also go up, like if Gief all of the sudden was best in the game I’m sure Menat would also go up a lot as she can deal with Gief pretty easily, and still hold her own versus other characters too
@@SJNaka101 there is no 1 or 2 things on Akuma that could be nerfed to take him out top 10, he has been the best since his release so is it really gonna pain people to make him even the meet slightly balnced?Also I'm not sure where people are getting this Akuma difficulty thing from, when I tried them they were extremely easy to me.
I wish there was a part at the end that showed how many of each of these factors the most commonly rated top tiers have. Great informative video though
Excellent analysis as always.
@HiFight if you tweet this.......you'll have my support on this one my bro!!! Ill definitely speak on this. I'm glad you saying something about it.. GUD SHITTTTTT
This is such a well made video
This is a really great video! It really brings a higher level of understanding of what's actually going on in a fight and how to map out a great character.
Great work as usual, HiFight!
Could you possibly leave a link to the song(s) used in the video? Absolutely love it.
Excellent video executed perfectly 😍😍😍
great breakdown. I'd definitely add fast heavy normals to the list along with multiple good/reliable AA options. And while having an invincible reversal doesn't automatically make you top tier, pretty-much every top tier has one (on top of all of their other privileges)
Friendly reminder that Nashs Vs2 is 53 recovery frames while all other charged vskills are 50. ( Blanka might be longer but he can dash cancel it ) . Give me one good reason why it needs to be 3f longer?
Nice video! I really didn't expect that at the end haha
I really like those theoretical essays.
Same
Nothing but truth in this video! Wonderful video!
I like how the baseline of this song is the intro to the Street Fighter 4 theme.
Damn such a great video. You put ridiculous amount of work into it
really nice topic man!i feel that apply for other fighting games too, specially the ability to turn neutral to combo, it really defines MK11 top tiers for exemple
For the last bit about v triggers, I'm glad someone else thought of my idea for giving vega more rose activations. I think his VT1 and nash's vt1 should have an additional use after activation.
Great Video! ... It really nicely sums up a lot of what you should be aware of when playing fighting games, especially SFV.
Short and sweet and very informative :)
Reality: Dan will be higher tier than Ryu
You sure about that?
@@CrystalMang0absolutely
@@CrystalMang0 Yeah... Ryu is sadly the worst shoto in SF5.
@@imnot9923 Ok and? There's always going to be a worse character in any game so what's you point. If Ryu is not worst then then another shot would be. Doesn't matter. I'd rather Ryu be the worst then the best cause his gameplay is extremely simple
I find if funny that people always talk about Ryu being low tier or the worst in the game when we have players like Tjommmi and MDZ_jimmY putting that to rest almost daily.
Really well made video 👏🏽
I play Sagat Urien G and Kage can say yes top tiers do get conversions on almost everything.
Good points. Reason #1 is definitely why Seth is so heavily used at high levels (SFL / tournaments), #2 is why Akuma is so OP, #3 is why Rashid is considered high tier, and #5 is why Kolin and Urien are considered top tier (and G is robbery)
Excellent video. One of the best I've seen on Sfv
HiFight always on point
Nice succinct and informative video
At 1:50 shows my reason why I dropped Ed, great HiFight... plus ultra
Awesome, very simple and informative 👌
I like how the only grappler in the video was Abigail in the background
I love that outro so much.
Very respectful and commendable for those last 10seconds of the vid to not cover up your patreons. More UA-cam videos need a couple more seconds to not have those abomination pop-ups on screen. Also great video!
hi from brasil! thx for share with us u amazing content. s2
Shoutouts to HiFight for not including G in part 5
He also didn't add him on part 4 even tho he has free ex moves
@@idk72. shhhhhhhhh
Or urien, just in the preview lol
I can't believe this video has to be made. But it's so fuckin good.
Kage just wanted to play the game
Great content
Eds pushback on cr.mp and the lack of an overhead is a real pain bruh
Really missing out on having a reactable overhead aren't ya
@@chachawho435 reactable?😂 bc every pro in SF-League or in ranked reacts to every single one, right? They just never work..🤨 most overheads aren't really reactable and some can even get big conversions.
@@johannzinnitz8893 They close out rounds every now and again but you guys aren't low tier because of it. Cammy and bison don't have overheads and they are fine. You guys do need however good normals and a better presence in the mid range.
@@chachawho435 fair enough. But having such an option would clearly help. Without bar its so difficult to get mixups or openings in the corner. I play Necalli too( Platinum) and i got various people with 3 overheads/ command grabs in a row ^^
One button dp and one button comboable anti airs will do that.
Excellent video!
This was a great idea!
After watching this Video, but never have played Sf5 before, im still ready to beat daigo now! 👍👍👍
Great video!
And then, as a consequence i´m more mad with capcom xD
What a great video, thank you
Awesome video!
Yo those chuns legit ASCENDED
Really i really wish to have a good neutral or a option to escape corner with Gill.
When you see that you have to sacrifice damage in order to get oki.
Spend meter to gain a chance to get more damage. (If you don't have 2 bars this conversion do less damage)
Is really bad to make Gill works in neutral game.
An important thing to remember is that the whole discussion of top tier characters is basically just math. If you have better frames, options, etc and they're not to difficult to learn, you can do pretty well with them, it doesn't hurt your odds. This however doesn't mean that someone of great skill can't take a lower tier character and beat the odds, they can, but it does mean that they're probably putting in more work and they're also taking a risk that they know how to handle.
"but Akuma and Seth are glass cannons". Smh
You dont have to worry about your lifebar if you have more ways to kick opponent's A S S,who thinks like this don't consider the huge amount of options that akuma and seth have.
Sorry,my engrish is bad
The high damage output of most characters makes pretty much everyone a glass cannon. The total number of touches before you die is almost identical.
I never understood that all you do is survive like 1 tap more
Exactamundo
Something wrong with that statement? Pretty sure you misread Akuma with Full Bar once or twice, you are pretty much dead, same goes for Seth. Big DMG Fast but also die fast since their health stat is not that much
That ending sequence was awese 🤣
'Ed is a strong character' - Infiltration.
Who ?
He won at first with him because pros didn't know Ed at all. But then, he got destroyed. 😆
Personally I see the ability to make an intentionally dangerous universal game mechanic safe as a very strong thing to have for a top tier character.
Like Seth VS1 making ppl afraid to put out buttons in neutral gives him access to free dashes and walk ups, as well as axe kick giving him access to a somewhat safe way to jump in on his opponents.
Akuma having air fireball giving him access to be able to come in by jump very safely, as well as that VT being whatever tf it is.
Kolin VT2.
Abigail.
Ok now I’m getting a bit salty with these but you get my drift 😂
bro I started playing like yesterday and in the recommended videos I already have these videos? FBI wtf ...
Wanna play n_n
FBI outchere moving mad 🤣🤣🤣
Nothing for us Alex mains to see here. We must retreat with our short range grapples for a grapple character and our trash DP
Love the music!
great video!
Fun fact. Since SF4 (arguably when sf became mainstream) Evo, including Evo Japan has only twice been won using characters who did not have a projectile attack. So if you want to win At SF, the first step is having a good projectile character.
SF became mainstream in SF2 era. SF4 is the revival.
The common underlier I've noticed for MOST cases of top tiers is an imbalance of risk/reward.
Aka getting relatively too much value out of something that is either too safe or too easy.
I feel like characters that crazy skill to get relatively too much reward with tend to not be problems - because not enough people play that character.
Nice video
100% agreed... but I will forever be a Ryu main.
quality content
Fire video
The reason why Chun Li is top tier: She has LITERALLY EVERYTHING except a command grab and teleport.
Whats so good about comand Grabs in Sf5? I mean theyre untechable, but is there more to it? Maybe more damage? OK, but something Hidden to the eye? In super turbo, yes, some did Not have a whiff Animation, OK this is huge! But what the Point in Sf5?
@@Crownholder It's quite literally an extra approach option that can also give a combo depending on the character, how is that not good
@@raveelemental4928 i know but somehow i think, in a Situation that you command throwed, why Not Just normal throw?
@@Crownholder being untechable is the point, it limits the opponents options by forcing them to jump or mash instead of delay teching
@@rc8874 OK, thanks! But i heard in Sf5 you can throw some command throws! (Theyre not throw invincible themself)
great video
I love how this video makes Ryu look like an absolute hobo in comparison to the top tiers.
Yea, most of the health values don't justify the disparity in options between some characters. Most "low health" characters only have 10% less health than the average character. If health is going to be used as a balancing tool, it needs to be applied more liberally, like in gg's case. Chipp sure as fuck should be extremely squishy compared to potemkin, not just for aesthetic reasons, but because his options and movement give him way more versatility in approaching and pressure.
Definitely agree with this - it seems like the devs don't really understand how damage is dealt in this game. They tweak health up and down by 25 and 50 like it's actually doing something. But the reality is that very rarely does this make a difference between whether or not the other character dies after factoring in no chip kills and CA/VT combos with generous damage.
The gap between the highest health and lowest health character is too small. Characters like Akuma and Seth doesn't feel particularly fragile considering this is supposed to be a major point of balance in the game.
virgin ryu mains: u play a braindead top tier! your getting carried by a broken character!
Chad akuma mains: demon flip go brrr haha
What tool from V-trigger are you showing when you show akuma ? ... It'd had made 100,000 times more sense to show someone like Juri-Han zipping across the screen... or Dhalism setting the ground on fire... Or if it HAD to be a top tier V-trigger. Cammy going through with Drill kicks.
I just wish some low tiers got some love
This video I think really puts some of the issues into a great visual example. Definitely things I dislike with the top tier disparity! SFV is the only fighter I've played where I have to play top tiers just to enjoy the game, and that's messed up. I started the game maining Fang and Gill, and NOT having some of the top tier options actually hampered my learning.
One thing that IMO is a definitive top tier privilege not mentioned; The "go-to" pressure button. Almost every character has a st.MP which is +2/+3 on block, and confirmable on hit into a combo point blank. The attributes of this button really define the risk/reward in some matchups, and the disparity of what each character gets for this button is so odd. As an example, Gill's st.MP is a fantastic button on paper, but if he confirms into cr.MP > lariat he doesn't get good OKI. If you st.MP on OKI and they jump you can be put into a minus situation even on hit, so it doesn't very well fulfill it's role. Compared to Rashid st.MP, Akuma cr.MP, or Seth cr.MP. All of these lead back into the same situation, block or hit!
Yea this video definitely had to be made ! People do need to understand how much of an advantage they have with playing some of theses characters.Cr mk from a mile away into a combo is just ridiculous.Sagat not having a lot of options after a knock down is depressing,who the f is developing theses characters and how don’t they see this smh ?That balancing team is trash .
Majority of players who main the game need to see this. This is the facts that people keep ignoring since it's been out. But imho Champion Edition (only good version) is in a great place and can't ever say the same for the other trash versions of SFV.
dont forget v skills that can be frequently be used safely or grant massive advantages .
A lot of these things are things every character should have in some capacity, a greater capacity than this game seems to allows for certain characters.
Excellent video man. This is what I hate most of this game lately. It has become (Or Maybe evolved?)a game where characters are constantly fishing/buffering with their best normals to get oki and proceed to put into a guess situation their opponent. You Guess wrong. Now you are close to stun, ggs. Very well explained.
More roses for Vega = More random slides in neutral I guess 😂.....