Suffered with a similar condition... 12 hours is a joke. I had pericarditis and it was worse pain than a kick to the nuts. Can't imagine 12 hours of it.
@notme1345 Open borders and more boats are not in their manifesto, you're thinking Greens maybe. If you need to lie to promote Reform, the party is kind of screwed.
Well done! No honest person can hear the stories in this video and think that another year like the last 14 is a good thing for this country. Go for it, and vote Labour!
@@ralphdavidson9542 Between 97 and 2010 do you not remember labour on question time being lambasted for people having to take a Drs appointment with in 2 days!! 2 DAYS! A luxury nowadays!
Would have helped if Labour hadn’t put thousands of foreigners in the queue in front of you. And don’t start blaming the Tories. This rot started with Labour.
friend asked me Morgan Mcsweeney the new chief of staff is he the guy who gave £730,000 to starmer campaign and now gets a top job in the labour party??????
I find that hard to believe that a child would have to wait a year for an NHS dentist appointment if you are lucky to still have an NHS dentist like I have it’s a couple of weeks tops, unless he is referring to orthodontic treatment which will be a year, exactly the same amount of time I waited for my daughter to see if she needed braces, that was when Labour was in power 2009
They don't....all it takes is a parent to take some responsibility and actually arrange an appointment. I took both of my kids yesterday for their 6 month check-up, £30 each - yep I pay to privately and yep it isn't really all a big deal. Sure they might need future work which will cost more...but even years ago when I was young I remember my parents paying some cost towards it. The fact she was in pain and being told "it will be a year" doesn't add up.
I have lived through two Labour Governments the first was characterised by economic turmoil, rampant inflation, strikes so savage that we still to this day recall the sheer squalor of the Winter of Discontent and a country in such decline that the rest of the continent labelled us Europe’s “sick man”. The second saw irresponsible government spending, the start of mass immigration, a ruinous war in Iraq and finally the deepest economic recession that any of us had ever had the misfortune to experience. You got it, Labour ends in disaster. Without fail. And this time will be even worse. I am retired do enjoy !
No triumphalism, and don’t mess it up. Neil Kinnock the former Labour leader, air-punched his way to disaster last century, nobody liked the rashness and arrogance. It’s a job application, so behave. Press on and get into Downing Street, you’re no use if you exhibit triumphalism at every small win.
I have lived through two Labour Governments the first was characterised by economic turmoil, rampant inflation, strikes so savage that we still to this day recall the sheer squalor of the Winter of Discontent and a country in such decline that the rest of the continent labelled us Europe’s “sick man”. The second saw irresponsible government spending, the start of mass immigration, a ruinous war in Iraq and finally the deepest economic recession that any of us had ever had the misfortune to experience. You got it, Labour ends in disaster. Without fail. And this time will be even worse. I am retired do enjoy !
@@garyb455So, in your opinion, the last 14 years have been brilliant. For some maybe, but what about the 7 Million on the NHS waiting lists, hundreds spending many hours on trolleys in A&E, health & social care in steep decline, our roads in an appalling state, thousands of food banks needed, an acute shortage of affordable housing, thousands waiting months to have benefit claims assessed. Oh yes, it’s all gone very well hasn’t it!
@@buzzukfiftythree I'll guarantee this if labour had sat in number 10 for the past 14 years it would be far worse . And you think that labour will solve all the issues you highlighted 🤡🌍 . The government can't solve issues that take working taxpayers to pay for it . Every single one is socialist in its merit ... Too Many fuckin leeches on our system and labour will hand them more while I pay for it . Plastic Marxist twat
The best election ad I have seen. No triumphalism, a recognition that winning the election is just the first step on a long and painful road to recovery.
What bugs me is how many issues could be solved simply via changing the law, and cost virtually no money. There should not be money in the system to pay water company shareholders bonuses. Utility companies providing an essential should simply not have shareholders. Landlords should not be able to take a third of your hard-earned pay. Shareholders should exist when businesses need investment and a risk is taken. There is no risk in providing water, people will always need it. People can't negotiate or walk away. People should have affordable (aka: 10-15% of your pay cheque) places to rent, so one day they can save for a house. There is no risk in providing housing, people will always need it. People can't negotiate or walk away. In a housing shortage, no one should be able to hoard homes. (We didn't let people hoard food during the pandemic.) Lastly... we should be able to generate all energy within Britain, not subsidize other countries like France's EDF Energy. The Tories take British things and sell them to the highest bidder... Just look at Tata Steel in Port Talbot.
1968 Enoch warned us all! Labour rubbed their hands with glee at all the incoming votes! Boy how they miscalculated see Rayner begging the imams for their votes! Maybe Putin will put us all out of our misery!
57yr old, been voting Conservative all my days but not anymore, only real viable option to get this country back on track is to vote Reform UK lets be honest could it really get any worse.
Let's hope these turncoats help Labour and don't turn back to their authentic selves. I've been voting Labour since 1970 - politics is in the blood, it isn't a selfish choice.
I won’t vote Labour for the first time in my adult life. Gaza, Abbot, Faiza, Corbyn treatment too. The purge of the left is disgusting. The swing to blue under Starmer is sickening. Nothing will change.
i feel angry about that too but im voting labour because more years of the tories will be catastrophic and theyre the best bet when voting strategically
I dont undersrand why everyone isnt voting REFORM. At least give them a chance. Im sick of frittering between Tories and Labour. Bith have screwed up massivly. Time to give another party a chance
I am voting for Labour, not because of any of these things but because of the total Elitist, out of touch Gov who think they are above normal people. 8billion waisted on PPE, much to mates, backing MPs, like Patel, when she bullied, costing the tax payer 500K, peerages, Boris's lies, the lettuce, 30billion down the drain. I am comfortable in life, I work hard, pay my bills, but the obscene lining of own pockets while vindictively going after disabled, migrants and the poor really upsets me. The nation should not want the Tories out of power, they should after the parties in No10, Tory HQ etc showing the total distain for normal folk want the Tories to be a nothing party. I fail to see how ANY person, with a sound head could tick that box for more of their corrupt, self absorbed lies, time for change, Time to make Britain great, through hardworking values.
Labour are part of the elite, champagne sipping socialists the lot of them. Starmer changes his stance faster than an octopus changes colour, Labour and the Conservatives are two sides of the same rotten apple. If you want to see a change then look elsewhere.
So your going to vote for someone who will bring in unthinkable numbers of immigrants. It is already costing the tax payers over 8 million a day. That could be going into the NHS instead of people we don't no or want.
The UK's flag; the Union flag, was to represent the unification of England, Wales, N. Ireland & Scotland, unified under one flag with British First attitude, secularism (shared Judaeo-Christian values promoted by a Christian head of state and the UK's institutions) and with it the freedom to believe whatever you want to believe and speak freely. THAT is what the UK was originally. Now we have abandoned secularism and adopted liberalism, which is the absence of shared values - also referred to as "Multi-culturalism" where people have no common ground and avoid each other; choosing to segregate themselves by culture into enclaves. You've heard of "white flight" where white people leave and live together in rural areas. You know about areas of the country where you walk through them and it feels like you are in a different country with almost no white people and all foreigners. Multi-culturalism does not cause cohesion, it causes division. Secularism causes cohesion, by giving the people shared British values upheld by the state, whilst allowing freedom of expression and freedom of religion. The dream of the UK was to recreate Jerusalem in England - where Jews, Muslims and Christians could live in peace and unity, whilst proudly waving their union flags. This dream was destroyed and corrupted by liberals and what we have today is a shadow of the past. There's a song called "Jerusalem" considered to be the English anthem, and towards the end it goes: "I will not cease from mental fight." "Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand." "Till we have built Jerusalem." "In England's green and pleasant land." The union flag represents unity and peace for all peoples and religions - it always did - until the liberals lied, corrupted and erased history from schools and common thought. Don't believe their lies.
You might say the union Jack was to unite the country after an ardent civil war and the restoration of the monarchy ! Or to cod the people that the German protestant kings were really British! I often wonder why we ever fought the germans?most of the ruling classes were German in origin as are the majority of the Anglo Saxon population! But that a story for a future generation ! VOTE REFORM!
I have lived through two Labour Governments the first was characterised by economic turmoil, rampant inflation, strikes so savage that we still to this day recall the sheer squalor of the Winter of Discontent and a country in such decline that the rest of the continent labelled us Europe’s “sick man”. The second saw irresponsible government spending, the start of mass immigration, a ruinous war in Iraq and finally the deepest economic recession that any of us had ever had the misfortune to experience. You got it, Labour ends in disaster. Without fail. And this time will be even worse. I am retired do enjoy !
Why do people constantly lay the Global financial crisis at Labour's feet. That would be like blaming Johnson for covid starting. Gordon Brown's response to the Global financial crisis, was necessary, and whilst painful, saved us a lot more hurt in the long run, even the austerity to bounce back could be argued as necessary for a few years. It was the fact that austerity continued under the tories instead of them investing again once we were out of the woods, that has led us here. I can't argue with the 70s, as I wasn't there, so don't know as much about it, but we need to stop equating spending=bad. Spending in the right way is actually investment and it can, and done correctly, will, lead to benefit for everyone.
I agree that investment is good if correctly and judiciously used! But remember Blair and Brown's PPI investments we will be paying off the mortgages they raised from their friends for decades We need a better educated populace and more voting referenda to keep these politicians clean! Meanwhile give them all a bloody nose and VOTE REFORM!
Many pensioners struggle on low incomes, however, the idea that all pensioners are poor is nonsense. Many of us (and that includes my partner and I) could afford to pay a little more tax each month. We are the fortunate generation in many ways and it is up to us to help a) those less fortunate than ourselves, and b) the next generation who struggle to find affordable homes. The Tories have done so much damage with austerity, hard Brexit, the NHS in a state of collapse etc. It will take time for Labour to repair that damage, so it’s not surprising that Kier Starmer is cautious and realistic about what can be achieved in the short -term.
Why are homes give times as expensive today than thirty years ago? Because the politicians of all parties wanted them to be! An investment , own and leasethem! Wake up read the Reform contact and think give them a chance to turn the shop of state around! Deport the illegals and remove legal aid from immigration law! Give on the job learning to nurses and doctors and increase the work force from our own population! Stop bad education and introduce grammar schools bring back meritocracy and the will to live will flourish! VOTE REFORM!
I struggle to understand why anyone would ever vote Tory and these actors aren't at all convincing - they need to say what possessed them ... Was it perhaps one of the two "B" words ? But then these adverts aren't aimed at me. I trudge to the ballot box every 4 years, pinch my nose and vote without any great enthusiasm...
I wonder whether Starmer went to a grammar school like Cherie and Tony Bluur! Amazing how they stopped that particular benefit to the rest of society! Didn't they have free university education as well! God me there no choice VOTE REFORM!
I'm waiting for the manifesto but I want a wealth tax like a lot in your party want to see done, at least an American style wealth exit tax with capital gains sharing bands and rates with Income tax. The wealthy have enough advantages over regular people already.
Majority of MPs aren't going to give up their own money to poorer people. A lot of them have their fingers in the property market pie, they won't let that go.
From a place of genuinely wanting to understand, not an internet fight, why in a democracy do you think people switching their viewpoint and voting a different way means you can't vote that way now? I admit, labour have moved more centre ground than maybe I would want, but the reality is, the left of the party gave it a go, and got absolutely smashed. Sometimes, in order to get into power and have the chance to make changes, compromise has to be made, I think this is a pragmatic change that will see us better off.
@wildfiresoup morning mate, the fact that so many conservative voters are switching because labour are close enough to be a viable voting intention shows how far labour have gone from their previous positions. Labour have compromised lots of their promises (I'm talking post starmer as leader, not the Corbyn era). This happened to me as a voter before when the liberal democrats went into coalition with the Tories, all their policies went out the window for nothing but a haphazard vote on proportionate representation. What I see in Starmers party is a party that promises nothing, refuses to answer a straight question, picks and chooses which people to save and throw under the bus, and a number of other issues. I don't want to prop up a conservative lite option, if we really want "change" then "more of the same under a different colour" is not change, is it?
@@Mikebloke Morning! Fair enough man, Just interested to get other perspectives. I do hear you on the Lib Dem front, I was promised free uni education then watched it disintegrate with the coalition. From my point of view, whilst I am more ideologically left than the current labour party, I think the reality of modern Britain is that the majority don't agree, so if it means ideological compromise to get power away from the tories, in my view that is a worthy trade off. Risking another defeat under a hardcore left leadership is not worth the risk at this stage! We'll have to see if they keep their promises I guess, my hunch is they'll do a lot better at that than this current government. Have a good one man!
@wildfiresoup thanks for the kind reply, unfortunately I'm a demographic that Labour, Conservatives, Liberal democrats and Reform are all attacking / threatening / disregarding. While others won't have any problem voting for labour as it doesn't directly effect them, I'm unfortunately in a minority which will be targeted just as strongly under labours current leadership than I am under the conservatives.
Keir Starmer is not that change. The system will remain broken, it will just weigh slightly better in the working classes' hands. Our kids will still be told affordable housing means a smaller, lesser quality property than we have now, with often surcharges for upkeep the council refuse to do, some tiny playpark that brings less entertainment than a stick to dig a hole, 50yr mortgage with no certain interest rates... The lady of the family went to work because the white goods made her life easier, the white goods now being terrible quality and breaking all the time is what keeps her at work. Cars are increasingly more expensive to repair and needlessly complicated. Education does not teach children about life. Your NHS jobs are increasingly done by foreigners who bring down your wages, higher housing costs, less NHS appointments, busier roads, etc. Migration is good, economical prop up by migration is bad.
Final scene was flying over Milton Keynes, where we need change the most, to get rid of two sitting conservative MPs. VOTE Labour 4th July for Change and a future with hope.
Why not give the youth a reason to actually vote for you other than solely because they strongly dislike the Tories. There are better options out there that align a lot more with the views of the youth of today (Green and Lib Dem) than Labour do. We've been screwed over with insane uni loans and mental interest rates, housing stock sold off long before our time and not replaced, witness mass privatisation and are apathetic towards politics. Come out with some real policies that can encourage growth for the future of this country instead of benefiting those that have long had their cake and eaten it.
As a 23 year old Green Party member, I completely agree with you. As much as I dislike Blair, he was at least inspiring. I just don't feel inspired by this Labour government, however. Sure, I despite the Tories too, but I want something more than just "we hate the Tories and we're less bad!". I'm voting Green because they actually care about young people, the environment, and don't purge everyone remotely left-wing.
@@bestrafung2754 I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet, a lot of parties are uninspiring and lacking any actual real vision. Obviously there is time for them to change that before the election but a significant volume of MPs and parties are coasting at the moment, it's not great.
Increasing the minimum wage in line with cost of living requirements and scrapping the age bands will be a massive change for young people. Not scrapping 1/8 Uni courses will be good for young people. Nationalising the railways, investing in clean power, Votes at 16, and many more.
It's nice saying all these things. But Labour hasn't proven that they can deliver. I'm not a Tori voter, but I'm not sold on Labour. I'm just going to vote in a way that reduces the Conservatives' chances of forming the opposition. Dare I say it. But up to now, Labour is all talk.
i have been living on my own for 2 years now and i am in a situation where every job requires a qualification. My benefit runs out in December. after that i wont have enough money to pay my rent. im hoping labour can fix this before i end up in the streets.
So sorry for you! But don't rely on Labour! They'll usher into your home a family of illegal immigrants helped by the Tories! VOTE REFORM! They want to increase the number of nurses and carers and abolish the requirements of maths and English diplomas VOTE REFORM!
@@BetaUKtf2 yeah but i live in supported accomodation, when i work my rent increases. also i genuinly just dont get paid enough to keep myself stable after rent. surprisingly less than 100 are in the exact same situation as me where the benifit has fucked me over
hahhahahaa wonder how many in vid are now embarrassed to be shown online for our viewing to show how stupid they are to be an labour voter 😂😂😂 reform voter and proud
Check out your local Green Party candidate, please? Help change our broken, failed voting system. Best chance for nature, NHS .... everything that really matters
Take a look at any reform video and in the comments you' find so much passion for people wanting to vote for them, most positive comments about them receive hundreds of likes. Where is the passion for the Labour party?
It died round about 1969/70 when they allowed our currency to be devalued by decimalizing the pound from 240 to 100 pennies over night! Yesterday a half pound block of lard cost me 15 shillings ! And all the sods have followed suite! But the worst liars are in the house of Lords and if Reform could abolish that cathouse it is worth giving them a vote VOTE REFORM!
In 2024 UK elections.. Vote for qualified decent independents! Vote = 'W o r k e r s P a r t y of B r i t a i n' Britain Deserves Better! (Read Manifesto)
Roses are what we fought a civil war over approximately five hundred years ago! What ever flower the Labour party choses they still stink! £20,000 personal tax allowance VOTE REFORM!
The National Debt has tripled under the Tories. Reform is the Brexit Party under a new name, and in reality it's a private company owned by Farage and Tice.
@@shoelessjoe428 The man needs money to save our country. We true patriots Brits need to do something to save our children and heritage. Labour will give you a little help whilst putting our country into more debt. I can’t understand more than half the shops in go into. All I end up saying is excuse me, sorry, even when it comes to a doctor. Why are we not training our own? I’m now classed as extreme far right by the police. This country is going the wrong way and your children’s, children’s will be living to regret it. Go and get what you want you greedy unpatriotic people. Vote Reform UK to save our country.
@Seanbyford •He has discussed working closer with the EU creating better trade etc and easier Travel but more importantly it’s trade medication etc he has already stated that and they said he met up with EU so don’t think we can reverse things ?I don’t think there is any chance of that it’s created more hatred ,racism and chaos than I ever thought I would need to negotiate not being able to get Epilepsy Meds I am on three lots and since 2016 this has been a problem at one point all 3 where not available my brother has it half my Mum’s Family multiple members died because of the lack of meds available..
those that actually are left wing are voting green and not labour. The current iteration of labour is only marginally better than these sociopathic conservatives.
I voted Conservatives and I genuinely feel ashamed of that. They betrayed all my fate in political system in this country. Fingers crossed Labour will change that.
@@SJ-ty8gb hell no. But tories are gone. We can finally have a government that helps all society. Why arent they offering something that we'd been promised for ages.
It was never my Labour under Jeremy Corbyn...Thankfully I've got my Party back and hopefully going to form the next government rather than being just a protest movement...
@@SJ-ty8gb’We don’t want a right wing Tory party, so vote for a slightly less right wing Tory lite party’. That’s hardly inspiring, I’d rather vote for a party that sticks to its socialist founding principles and seeks radical change for the better, not the status quo and purges of anyone who doesn’t bow down to the leader. Starmer lied to become leader, and crushed all dissent, what do you think he would be like in charge of the country. He’s more authoritarian and more of a liar than Johnson ever was!
@@Uio3eva it's completely uninspiring but a few weeks out from the election there's no alternative that won't divide the ' left of centre vote' and help the tories.
I voted Labour last time, and every time before that since I became old enough to vote in 1980. I attended countless meetings, volunteered on stalls, walked miles delivering leaflets and talking to voters. And then I turned on the TV and saw Labour MPs laughing as they lost. Never again.
@@SJ-ty8gb I don't think 40+ years is a sprint. I would happily vote for Labour again under a different leadership, if they returned to Labour values. I seem to remember it said on the back of my membership card 'Labour is a democratic Socialist party'. I'll come back when they can truthfully say that again.
I'm sorry I misread your post. I've been at it since the 1970s. I just think there's always a chance. Michael Foot and Corbyn weren't too far wrong but they coincided with bad circumstances.
Spending 12 hours in An A and E corridor with my mum suffering from myocarditis was my eye opener tbh, never thought it could get like this
Suffered with a similar condition... 12 hours is a joke. I had pericarditis and it was worse pain than a kick to the nuts. Can't imagine 12 hours of it.
Imagine a long weekend in a waiting room under Liebour! Then you'd have even a worse language barrier when you do see a box ticker.
@@QuoPaperPlaneLabour's previous government improved the NHS... what's this Liebour B.S.
@notme1345 Open borders and more boats are not in their manifesto, you're thinking Greens maybe.
If you need to lie to promote Reform, the party is kind of screwed.
Not if my head was on fire and they had the only bucket of water in the country !!
I wonder if they would say the same thing now? Are they proud of themselves?
I voted reform and proud. and will again
I’ve always voted conservative and am thinking of giving Keir Starmer a chance.
More the fool you to trust either of them.
No surprise. They're the same, politically.
Well done!
No honest person can hear the stories in this video and think that another year like the last 14 is a good thing for this country.
Go for it, and vote Labour!
The tories divide. Labour unite. Time to vote for change.
Vote reform
This time I’m doing it for my family , we are moving to Spain
😂
Remember when you could get DRs and dental appointments with in days!
Yeah. In the 1980's
@@ralphdavidson9542 Lies won't save you.
@@ralphdavidson9542 Between 97 and 2010 do you not remember labour on question time being lambasted for people having to take a Drs appointment with in 2 days!! 2 DAYS! A luxury nowadays!
@@shuggiemcg1 Différent governments spend money on different things… I remember Labour being lambasted for starting a pointless war…
Would have helped if Labour hadn’t put thousands of foreigners in the queue in front of you. And don’t start blaming the Tories. This rot started with Labour.
I'd rather vote to restart the Earth, and wish for a better rerun
I couldn't agree more
This time, I'm steering well clear!
friend asked me Morgan Mcsweeney the new chief of staff is he the guy who gave £730,000 to starmer campaign and now gets a top job in the labour party??????
I find that hard to believe that a child would have to wait a year for an NHS dentist appointment if you are lucky to still have an NHS dentist like I have it’s a couple of weeks tops, unless he is referring to orthodontic treatment which will be a year, exactly the same amount of time I waited for my daughter to see if she needed braces, that was when Labour was in power 2009
They don't....all it takes is a parent to take some responsibility and actually arrange an appointment. I took both of my kids yesterday for their 6 month check-up, £30 each - yep I pay to privately and yep it isn't really all a big deal. Sure they might need future work which will cost more...but even years ago when I was young I remember my parents paying some cost towards it. The fact she was in pain and being told "it will be a year" doesn't add up.
Myself and my family are turning our backs on the Labour party now Farage is Reform UK leader.
Thank you
Excellent 👍 keep up the good work you are smashing it...smashing the Tories. We need to be saved from them. They feel like the enemy within.
I have lived through two Labour Governments the first was characterised by economic turmoil, rampant inflation, strikes so savage that we still to this day recall the sheer squalor of the Winter of Discontent and a country in such decline that the rest of the continent labelled us Europe’s “sick man”. The second saw irresponsible government spending, the start of mass immigration, a ruinous war in Iraq and finally the deepest economic recession that any of us had ever had the misfortune to experience.
You got it, Labour ends in disaster. Without fail. And this time will be even worse. I am retired do enjoy !
I’d rather live under Trump than Labour 😂
@@garyb455 100 percent
Keir Hardie was the best of a bad job I remember this Keir Starmer when he was head of the Criminal Prosecution Service and he was useless then!
No triumphalism, and don’t mess it up. Neil Kinnock the former Labour leader, air-punched his way to disaster last century, nobody liked the rashness and arrogance. It’s a job application, so behave. Press on and get into Downing Street, you’re no use if you exhibit triumphalism at every small win.
I have lived through two Labour Governments the first was characterised by economic turmoil, rampant inflation, strikes so savage that we still to this day recall the sheer squalor of the Winter of Discontent and a country in such decline that the rest of the continent labelled us Europe’s “sick man”. The second saw irresponsible government spending, the start of mass immigration, a ruinous war in Iraq and finally the deepest economic recession that any of us had ever had the misfortune to experience.
You got it, Labour ends in disaster. Without fail. And this time will be even worse. I am retired do enjoy !
@@garyb455So, in your opinion, the last 14 years have been brilliant. For some maybe, but what about the 7 Million on the NHS waiting lists, hundreds spending many hours on trolleys in A&E, health & social care in steep decline, our roads in an appalling state, thousands of food banks needed, an acute shortage of affordable housing, thousands waiting months to have benefit claims assessed. Oh yes, it’s all gone very well hasn’t it!
@@buzzukfiftythree I'll guarantee this if labour had sat in number 10 for the past 14 years it would be far worse . And you think that labour will solve all the issues you highlighted 🤡🌍 . The government can't solve issues that take working taxpayers to pay for it . Every single one is socialist in its merit ... Too Many fuckin leeches on our system and labour will hand them more while I pay for it . Plastic Marxist twat
If your the type that vote for this shite , I'm glad I'm not ....
Neil Kinnock was never prime minister so I don't see how your statement can be true.
The best election ad I have seen. No triumphalism, a recognition that winning the election is just the first step on a long and painful road to recovery.
I bet you liked Jimmy Seville as well!
@@jackiefisher1820 only in your sick mind.
You really think there will be a recovery under Labour 🙄
@@kitswithkaren5003 yes, because unlike the tories they have a costed plan instead of a word salad of dog whistle phrases.
What bugs me is how many issues could be solved simply via changing the law, and cost virtually no money.
There should not be money in the system to pay water company shareholders bonuses. Utility companies providing an essential should simply not have shareholders. Landlords should not be able to take a third of your hard-earned pay.
Shareholders should exist when businesses need investment and a risk is taken. There is no risk in providing water, people will always need it. People can't negotiate or walk away.
People should have affordable (aka: 10-15% of your pay cheque) places to rent, so one day they can save for a house. There is no risk in providing housing, people will always need it. People can't negotiate or walk away.
In a housing shortage, no one should be able to hoard homes. (We didn't let people hoard food during the pandemic.)
Lastly... we should be able to generate all energy within Britain, not subsidize other countries like France's EDF Energy. The Tories take British things and sell them to the highest bidder... Just look at Tata Steel in Port Talbot.
Vote REFORM
You might get your wishes answered!
And £20,000 personal tax free!
There is no way I am voting for Labour with Kier Starmer, Emily thornberry and Diane Abbott. Not in hell!!
Angela Rayner was the final straw for me. She's just too thick for an important job.
If Labour can't upload in 1080p, how can they run the country?
Vote for Reform UK 🇬🇧 Vote Nigel Farage 🇬🇧 . No one can stand Labor and Conservatives anymore.
Stop reading the mirror!
Voting ConLab to keep ConLab out is exactly why the country is in the mess its in.
If you think Labour will improve the NHS, then you don't understand the NHS and you don't understand Labour.
Vote Reform UK 🇬🇧
Pah ha
A vote for labour will send this country down the toilet further
Reform have talked about limited access to the NHS based on income... they won't specify what the cut-off is... why would anybody vote for that?
@@taykitrleevitt4314 hhen vote labour but dont moan when again yhey balls it up
Can we have an update of these voters, i dont see anyone asking for the winter fuel cuts lol.
hahahhaaaa I bet they are embarrassed as f!
Brush up on your Urdu and Arabic, its coming, 70 years left.😅
1968 Enoch warned us all!
Labour rubbed their hands with glee at all the incoming votes!
Boy how they miscalculated see Rayner begging the imams for their votes!
Maybe Putin will put us all out of our misery!
70years very optimistic.
give reform a chance these other parts are a joke can't get any worse same lies and nonsense
57yr old, been voting Conservative all my days but not anymore, only real viable option to get this country back on track is to vote Reform UK lets be honest could it really get any worse.
What a dream team Rayner, Abbot, Lammy on the world stage, what a joke
LabCon or ConLab. Vote Workers and have someone who knows what goes on in your lives as they feel it too. NO MORE Millionaires to Govern US.
Vote for Labour if you want to be poor, enslaved and at war. Starmer will do what he is told to this end.
Let's hope these turncoats help Labour and don't turn back to their authentic selves. I've been voting Labour since 1970 - politics is in the blood, it isn't a selfish choice.
Con and labour are one and the same. We need a good and proper change. Reform...here I come
I won’t vote Labour for the first time in my adult life. Gaza, Abbot, Faiza, Corbyn treatment too. The purge of the left is disgusting. The swing to blue under Starmer is sickening. Nothing will change.
Well said. Thousands of us feel the same.
same here. 61 and never voted for any party other than labour. never again - "Labour Friends of Israel". sickening.
@@keithdavo the cowardice and betrayal of innocent lives will never be forgotten.
i feel angry about that too but im voting labour because more years of the tories will be catastrophic and theyre the best bet when voting strategically
No, Vote REFORM!
I dont undersrand why everyone isnt voting REFORM. At least give them a chance. Im sick of frittering between Tories and Labour. Bith have screwed up massivly. Time to give another party a chance
I am voting for Labour, not because of any of these things but because of the total Elitist, out of touch Gov who think they are above normal people. 8billion waisted on PPE, much to mates, backing MPs, like Patel, when she bullied, costing the tax payer 500K, peerages, Boris's lies, the lettuce, 30billion down the drain. I am comfortable in life, I work hard, pay my bills, but the obscene lining of own pockets while vindictively going after disabled, migrants and the poor really upsets me. The nation should not want the Tories out of power, they should after the parties in No10, Tory HQ etc showing the total distain for normal folk want the Tories to be a nothing party. I fail to see how ANY person, with a sound head could tick that box for more of their corrupt, self absorbed lies, time for change, Time to make Britain great, through hardworking values.
Hear hear. Thank you.
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If you think things will be better under Labour your delusion
Labour are part of the elite, champagne sipping socialists the lot of them. Starmer changes his stance faster than an octopus changes colour, Labour and the Conservatives are two sides of the same rotten apple. If you want to see a change then look elsewhere.
So your going to vote for someone who will bring in unthinkable numbers of immigrants. It is already costing the tax payers over 8 million a day. That could be going into the NHS instead of people we don't no or want.
The UK's flag; the Union flag, was to represent the unification of England, Wales, N. Ireland & Scotland, unified under one flag with British First attitude, secularism (shared Judaeo-Christian values promoted by a Christian head of state and the UK's institutions) and with it the freedom to believe whatever you want to believe and speak freely. THAT is what the UK was originally.
Now we have abandoned secularism and adopted liberalism, which is the absence of shared values - also referred to as "Multi-culturalism" where people have no common ground and avoid each other; choosing to segregate themselves by culture into enclaves. You've heard of "white flight" where white people leave and live together in rural areas. You know about areas of the country where you walk through them and it feels like you are in a different country with almost no white people and all foreigners. Multi-culturalism does not cause cohesion, it causes division.
Secularism causes cohesion, by giving the people shared British values upheld by the state, whilst allowing freedom of expression and freedom of religion.
The dream of the UK was to recreate Jerusalem in England - where Jews, Muslims and Christians could live in peace and unity, whilst proudly waving their union flags. This dream was destroyed and corrupted by liberals and what we have today is a shadow of the past.
There's a song called "Jerusalem" considered to be the English anthem, and towards the end it goes:
"I will not cease from mental fight."
"Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand."
"Till we have built Jerusalem."
"In England's green and pleasant land."
The union flag represents unity and peace for all peoples and religions - it always did - until the liberals lied, corrupted and erased history from schools and common thought. Don't believe their lies.
You might say the union Jack was to unite the country after an ardent civil war and the restoration of the monarchy !
Or to cod the people that the German protestant kings were really British!
I often wonder why we ever fought the germans?most of the ruling classes were German in origin as are the majority of the
Anglo Saxon population!
But that a story for a future generation !
VOTE REFORM!
I have lived through two Labour Governments the first was characterised by economic turmoil, rampant inflation, strikes so savage that we still to this day recall the sheer squalor of the Winter of Discontent and a country in such decline that the rest of the continent labelled us Europe’s “sick man”. The second saw irresponsible government spending, the start of mass immigration, a ruinous war in Iraq and finally the deepest economic recession that any of us had ever had the misfortune to experience.
You got it, Labour ends in disaster. Without fail. And this time will be even worse. I am retired do enjoy !
Why do people constantly lay the Global financial crisis at Labour's feet. That would be like blaming Johnson for covid starting. Gordon Brown's response to the Global financial crisis, was necessary, and whilst painful, saved us a lot more hurt in the long run, even the austerity to bounce back could be argued as necessary for a few years. It was the fact that austerity continued under the tories instead of them investing again once we were out of the woods, that has led us here. I can't argue with the 70s, as I wasn't there, so don't know as much about it, but we need to stop equating spending=bad. Spending in the right way is actually investment and it can, and done correctly, will, lead to benefit for everyone.
I agree that investment is good if correctly and judiciously used!
But remember Blair and Brown's PPI investments we will be paying off the mortgages they raised from their friends for decades
We need a better educated populace and more voting referenda to keep these politicians clean!
Meanwhile give them all a bloody nose and VOTE REFORM!
Reform 2024,This time to try and stop Labour.
I will be voting Labour despite Liz Kendalls views on forcing disabled people back to work being no different than the Tories
Starmer protected Savile when employed at the CSP !!!
@@OneEpicEric Thatchers best friend Jimmy Savile ?
@@gerryhat-trick6375 Vote Reform 🇬🇧
Loads of so-called disabled people could work. They don't have to be hod carriers.
You are allowed to vote for someone else.
Labour will cost every worker thousands. They will demand everyone has to get a heat pump y law.
Absolute Garbage. Just more National Debt , throwing money won’t change everything. …..Reform
Get rid of Pinocchio sunak and the torys for good
Get rid of Yes Man Stermer then you may get somewhere with Labour.
There's more than one yes man in that party!
Many pensioners struggle on low incomes, however, the idea that all pensioners are poor is nonsense. Many of us (and that includes my partner and I) could afford to pay a little more tax each month. We are the fortunate generation in many ways and it is up to us to help a) those less fortunate than ourselves, and b) the next generation who struggle to find affordable homes. The Tories have done so much damage with austerity, hard Brexit, the NHS in a state of collapse etc. It will take time for Labour to repair that damage, so it’s not surprising that Kier Starmer is cautious and realistic about what can be achieved in the short -term.
Pensions sap our GDP like no tomorrow, it's mental
Why are homes give times as expensive today than thirty years ago?
Because the politicians of all parties wanted them to be!
An investment , own and leasethem!
Wake up read the Reform contact and think give them a chance to turn the shop of state around!
Deport the illegals and remove legal aid from immigration law!
Give on the job learning to nurses and doctors and increase the work force from our own population!
Stop bad education and introduce grammar schools bring back meritocracy and the will to live will flourish!
VOTE REFORM!
VOTE REFORM UK !!!!
Vote Reform!
Don't forget to vote for your favourite liar 😂
Why has this been released in 480p quality?
It's to reflect the quality of service we will get if they are voted in
Because Corbyn didn't get everyone free internet.
Vote reform
It's a choice between Labour or Reform UK, the rest are just a distraction
Reform have pledged to restrict access to the NHS, based on income... that sounds like a path to privatisation to me.
Look at all the Labour controlled councils they are useless or bankrupt or both!
VOTE REFORM!
If you vote Labour you will get what you deserve.Look at Labour in wales.Don't vote for a Trotsky style communist vote reform.
PLEASE God me a Christian love children and animals so please stop the crultry to ANIMALS PLEASE LET SOMEONE HELP THEM Margot 🎉🎉🎉
Labour are nasty, but only the lib dems could be classed as animals!
Still I don't hold with cruelty!
'I run about the house making sure every switch is off' .....look behind you.....
I struggle to understand why anyone would ever vote Tory and these actors aren't at all convincing - they need to say what possessed them ...
Was it perhaps one of the two "B" words ?
But then these adverts aren't aimed at me.
I trudge to the ballot box every 4 years, pinch my nose and vote without any great enthusiasm...
They are not actors. They are real people.
@@AngelaToppingA man sees his daughter in pain and doesnt do more to see a dentist... yer ok we believe that.
Then vote reform for a breath of fresh air.
@@kitswithkaren5003 ReformUK is led by cheats and liars.
Someone told me Sir Keir Starmer QC's father was a tool maker ??? is this true.
I wonder whether Starmer went to a grammar school like Cherie and Tony Bluur!
Amazing how they stopped that particular benefit to the rest of society!
Didn't they have free university education as well!
God me there no choice VOTE REFORM!
It's true: Keir Starmer is a tool.
I'm waiting for the manifesto but I want a wealth tax like a lot in your party want to see done, at least an American style wealth exit tax with capital gains sharing bands and rates with Income tax. The wealthy have enough advantages over regular people already.
Majority of MPs aren't going to give up their own money to poorer people. A lot of them have their fingers in the property market pie, they won't let that go.
Vote Reform UK.Labour aim is just to criticise Conservative but not to fix UK downfall.
"I've always voted conservative and now I'm voting labour"
And that is exactly why many of us are not voting labour this time.
From a place of genuinely wanting to understand, not an internet fight, why in a democracy do you think people switching their viewpoint and voting a different way means you can't vote that way now? I admit, labour have moved more centre ground than maybe I would want, but the reality is, the left of the party gave it a go, and got absolutely smashed. Sometimes, in order to get into power and have the chance to make changes, compromise has to be made, I think this is a pragmatic change that will see us better off.
@wildfiresoup morning mate, the fact that so many conservative voters are switching because labour are close enough to be a viable voting intention shows how far labour have gone from their previous positions. Labour have compromised lots of their promises (I'm talking post starmer as leader, not the Corbyn era). This happened to me as a voter before when the liberal democrats went into coalition with the Tories, all their policies went out the window for nothing but a haphazard vote on proportionate representation.
What I see in Starmers party is a party that promises nothing, refuses to answer a straight question, picks and chooses which people to save and throw under the bus, and a number of other issues.
I don't want to prop up a conservative lite option, if we really want "change" then "more of the same under a different colour" is not change, is it?
@@Mikebloke Morning! Fair enough man, Just interested to get other perspectives. I do hear you on the Lib Dem front, I was promised free uni education then watched it disintegrate with the coalition. From my point of view, whilst I am more ideologically left than the current labour party, I think the reality of modern Britain is that the majority don't agree, so if it means ideological compromise to get power away from the tories, in my view that is a worthy trade off. Risking another defeat under a hardcore left leadership is not worth the risk at this stage! We'll have to see if they keep their promises I guess, my hunch is they'll do a lot better at that than this current government. Have a good one man!
@wildfiresoup thanks for the kind reply, unfortunately I'm a demographic that Labour, Conservatives, Liberal democrats and Reform are all attacking / threatening / disregarding. While others won't have any problem voting for labour as it doesn't directly effect them, I'm unfortunately in a minority which will be targeted just as strongly under labours current leadership than I am under the conservatives.
What a load of trollop, '2 cheeks of the same rear end that clap together in unison', as a gentleman and scholar keeps putting it, LOL.
Keir Starmer is not that change. The system will remain broken, it will just weigh slightly better in the working classes' hands.
Our kids will still be told affordable housing means a smaller, lesser quality property than we have now, with often surcharges for upkeep the council refuse to do, some tiny playpark that brings less entertainment than a stick to dig a hole, 50yr mortgage with no certain interest rates...
The lady of the family went to work because the white goods made her life easier, the white goods now being terrible quality and breaking all the time is what keeps her at work.
Cars are increasingly more expensive to repair and needlessly complicated.
Education does not teach children about life.
Your NHS jobs are increasingly done by foreigners who bring down your wages, higher housing costs, less NHS appointments, busier roads, etc. Migration is good, economical prop up by migration is bad.
Final scene was flying over Milton Keynes, where we need change the most, to get rid of two sitting conservative MPs. VOTE Labour 4th July for Change and a future with hope.
she’s changed her tune she worked with David Cameron Government in 2010
£20,000 personal tax allowance
VOTE REFORM!
Why not give the youth a reason to actually vote for you other than solely because they strongly dislike the Tories. There are better options out there that align a lot more with the views of the youth of today (Green and Lib Dem) than Labour do.
We've been screwed over with insane uni loans and mental interest rates, housing stock sold off long before our time and not replaced, witness mass privatisation and are apathetic towards politics. Come out with some real policies that can encourage growth for the future of this country instead of benefiting those that have long had their cake and eaten it.
As a 23 year old Green Party member, I completely agree with you. As much as I dislike Blair, he was at least inspiring. I just don't feel inspired by this Labour government, however. Sure, I despite the Tories too, but I want something more than just "we hate the Tories and we're less bad!". I'm voting Green because they actually care about young people, the environment, and don't purge everyone remotely left-wing.
@@bestrafung2754 I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet, a lot of parties are uninspiring and lacking any actual real vision. Obviously there is time for them to change that before the election but a significant volume of MPs and parties are coasting at the moment, it's not great.
Use your vote wisely. Vote tactically. Stop The Tories. Vote
never sacrifice the good for the perfect
Increasing the minimum wage in line with cost of living requirements and scrapping the age bands will be a massive change for young people. Not scrapping 1/8 Uni courses will be good for young people. Nationalising the railways, investing in clean power, Votes at 16, and many more.
Well done!
It's nice saying all these things. But Labour hasn't proven that they can deliver. I'm not a Tori voter, but I'm not sold on Labour. I'm just going to vote in a way that reduces the Conservatives' chances of forming the opposition. Dare I say it. But up to now, Labour is all talk.
Oh for the Austrian Painter.
In 2024 UK Elections Vote for Qualified Decent Independents! Vote : 'Workers Party of Britain' - Britain Deserves Better!'- (Read the Manifesto)
who?
Not voting labour ever again
I don't blame you
Enjoy £20,000 tax free income courtesy of Reform UK!
Thank you Nigel!
Well done👍
@@kitswithkaren5003 are you voting labour
What a let down labour turned out to be, Liars and liars, Tax increases the lot, Vote reform!
I voted reform and will again 2029
First ever General Election I won't be voting in !!
Shame!
All very true.
I’m doing it for our future
Doing what?
How long for the changes to actually kick in. No matter who you vote for they don’t actually give a shit
i have been living on my own for 2 years now and i am in a situation where every job requires a qualification. My benefit runs out in December. after that i wont have enough money to pay my rent. im hoping labour can fix this before i end up in the streets.
So sorry for you!
But don't rely on Labour!
They'll usher into your home a family of illegal immigrants helped by the Tories!
VOTE REFORM!
They want to increase the number of nurses and carers and abolish the requirements of maths and English diplomas
VOTE REFORM!
Not every job requires a qualification....don't expect the government to keep paying you to stay at home. Any job is a job, good luck.
@@BetaUKtf2 yeah but i live in supported accomodation, when i work my rent increases. also i genuinly just dont get paid enough to keep myself stable after rent.
surprisingly less than 100 are in the exact same situation as me where the benifit has fucked me over
VOTE LABOUR!!!
Starmer protected Savile when employed at the CSP !!!
@@OneEpicEric utter crap
@@chrissanders1027 😁
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@@OneEpicEric if ya need to keep using far-right slurs, ya mustn't have much else to go on...same tactics and lies...
@@El_Paracleto Strange that my prove is being removed. That in itself says a lot 🇬🇧
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They all left it a bit late
I’m doing it because his dad was a toolmaker…..
My dad was a fitter on the bus corporation he always said that took makers were skilled jobs and got the top wages!
Vote reform and take our country back for the future of our children and our children’s children 🇬🇧
In your dream
@@Great_WesternTVFan we’ll see in 2028 won’t we! Seen any nice trains recently? 😂
@@bennvenables1028 waffle harder
hahhahahaa wonder how many in vid are now embarrassed to be shown online for our viewing to show how stupid they are to be an labour voter 😂😂😂 reform voter and proud
This time I’m voting for reform because labour are tories 2.0 beta
Same, I think more people are than the polls suggest (lets see)
You've got to try anything once!
£20,000 personal tax alliwance!
VOTE REFORM!
@@AlexShawI totally agree i don't trust the polls.I think many more people will vote reform than we are being led to believe.
That's pretty good. Keep it up.
How’s things with your corrupt Welsh leader? 😂
Count me out I'm not voting at all I don't trust any politican
Check out your local Green Party candidate, please? Help change our broken, failed voting system. Best chance for nature, NHS .... everything that really matters
@@philipmaber9756 no point Heidi Alexander will be our new local MP I can not stand her
Green = communist by stealth. No way.
Farage will be the best Prime Minister in the UK VOTE REFORM VOTE REFORM VOTE REFORM VOTE REFORM
Reform UK 🇬🇧
Never again Lies or Cons
Im voting labour, im sick of working, i want more benefits and more migrants (so they can work so i dont have to).
I'll come and carry your bag for you!
Take a look at any reform video and in the comments you' find so much passion for people wanting to vote for them, most positive comments about them receive hundreds of likes. Where is the passion for the Labour party?
It died round about 1969/70 when they allowed our currency to be devalued by decimalizing the pound from 240 to 100 pennies over night!
Yesterday a half pound block of lard cost me 15 shillings !
And all the sods have followed suite!
But the worst liars are in the house of Lords and if Reform could abolish that cathouse it is worth giving them a vote
VOTE REFORM!
Let’s get our future back 🌹
How can anyone change parties
I guess it depends how much a party can change
Because it's not a religion you weirdo.
Democracy allows for a person to change there mind. Hopefully morals too.
I’m voting Labour - we need change. The UK has fallen apart under the Conservatives
REFORM UK 🇬🇧
Give them a try
£20,000 personal alliwance!
VOTE REFORM!
In 2024 UK elections..
Vote for qualified decent independents!
Vote = 'W o r k e r s P a r t y of B r i t a i n'
Britain Deserves Better! (Read Manifesto)
Done my research convert your heat pump tory 7.500 pond to convert your car 100.000 to buy a RUV to buy a car 30.000 electric
This time, I''m voting Reform UK.
Vote Labour
No!
July 4 can't happen soon enough 🌹
Roses are what we fought a civil war over approximately five hundred years ago!
What ever flower the Labour party choses they still stink!
£20,000 personal tax allowance
VOTE REFORM!
Labour put our country in Trillions of debt. Vote Reform UK 🇬🇧
Source?
The National Debt has tripled under the Tories. Reform is the Brexit Party under a new name, and in reality it's a private company owned by Farage and Tice.
@@shoelessjoe428 The man needs money to save our country. We true patriots Brits need to do something to save our children and heritage. Labour will give you a little help whilst putting our country into more debt.
I can’t understand more than half the shops in go into. All I end up saying is excuse me, sorry, even when it comes to a doctor. Why are we not training our own? I’m now classed as extreme far right by the police. This country is going the wrong way and your children’s, children’s will be living to regret it. Go and get what you want you greedy unpatriotic people. Vote Reform UK to save our country.
I'll be voting Reform, Labour voters are thick as mince
@@stevenhowe6677 your diluting the Tory vote and you’ll end up with Labour
Why won’t labour discuss brexit
@Seanbyford •He has discussed working closer with the EU creating better trade etc and easier Travel but more importantly it’s trade medication etc he has already stated that and they said he met up with EU so don’t think we can reverse things ?I don’t think there is any chance of that it’s created more hatred ,racism and chaos than I ever thought I would need to negotiate not being able to get Epilepsy Meds I am on three lots and since 2016 this has been a problem at one point all 3 where not available my brother has it half my Mum’s Family multiple members died because of the lack of meds available..
But who do I vote for if I haven't voted tory in the past?
Labour.
@@AngelaTopping did that, thrice.
Lib Dem was always the anti tory vote here in Devon. That was until 2010.
We need Nigel Farage vote reform UK
Excellent. A powerful message for the don't knows. 👍
We are All Voting Labour
No we're not.
Starmer protected Savile when employed at the CSP !!!
those that actually are left wing are voting green and not labour. The current iteration of labour is only marginally better than these sociopathic conservatives.
@@OneEpicEric Lies wont save you.
alll ways vote labour never tories lies
I voted Conservatives and I genuinely feel ashamed of that. They betrayed all my fate in political system in this country. Fingers crossed Labour will change that.
Again the same fools are now voting Labour.
Its not my Labour anymore, so no.
Do you really want the Tories for another 14 years. There's plenty like Johnson and Truss in their party willing to make a mess of the country.
@@SJ-ty8gb hell no. But tories are gone. We can finally have a government that helps all society. Why arent they offering something that we'd been promised for ages.
It was never my Labour under Jeremy Corbyn...Thankfully I've got my Party back and hopefully going to form the next government rather than being just a protest movement...
@@SJ-ty8gb’We don’t want a right wing Tory party, so vote for a slightly less right wing Tory lite party’. That’s hardly inspiring, I’d rather vote for a party that sticks to its socialist founding principles and seeks radical change for the better, not the status quo and purges of anyone who doesn’t bow down to the leader. Starmer lied to become leader, and crushed all dissent, what do you think he would be like in charge of the country. He’s more authoritarian and more of a liar than Johnson ever was!
@@Uio3eva it's completely uninspiring but a few weeks out from the election there's no alternative that won't divide the ' left of centre vote' and help the tories.
I voted Labour last time, and every time before that since I became old enough to vote in 1980. I attended countless meetings, volunteered on stalls, walked miles delivering leaflets and talking to voters. And then I turned on the TV and saw Labour MPs laughing as they lost.
Never again.
You give up too easily. Politics is a long game not a sprint over a few years.
@@SJ-ty8gb I don't think 40+ years is a sprint. I would happily vote for Labour again under a different leadership, if they returned to Labour values. I seem to remember it said on the back of my membership card 'Labour is a democratic Socialist party'. I'll come back when they can truthfully say that again.
I'm sorry I misread your post. I've been at it since the 1970s. I just think there's always a chance. Michael Foot and Corbyn weren't too far wrong but they coincided with bad circumstances.
@@pinknylon1121Labour is still a democratic socialist party, just more modern.