Is 2024 The Year AAA Console Exclusives Die? - Beyond 848

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  • Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
  • Once upon a time, video game consoles were defined by their exclusive game lineups… these days, that seems like less of a sure thing, and with the rising cost of game development, it’s not hard to see why. Between a simultaneous PC release making Helldivers 2 PlayStation’s fastest-selling game ever, to Square-Enix aggressively exploring a multi-platform strategy, to Xbox Game Studios games like Sea of Thieves topping PS5 sales charts, it sure looks like more publishers are ditching the idea of keeping their games on just one platform or device. On a semi-related note, back in our day, video game controllers were small enough for little kids to play them, and now they’re too darn big! But really, maybe Nintendo’s on to something by offering teeny-tiny Joycon, but also a Switch Pro Controller. Meanwhile, the DualSense is practically twice the size of the first three generations of DualShock controllers, could there be a market for a smaller controller? Animal Well is, well, a game about animals at the bottom of a well, and that’s all well and good. Little Kitty Big City is the latest adorable indie game that has entirely too much NPC dialogue for its own good, and if you don’t mind reading the Elden Ring manga is easily the funniest interpretation of a FromSoft game this side of Prepare To Try. Podcast Beyond this week is Max Scoville, Brian Altano, Jada Griffin, and Akeem Lawanson.
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  • @XiTSlash
    @XiTSlash 25 днів тому +44

    No, as long as Nintendo is still around, exclusives will still exist

  • @Sparticulous
    @Sparticulous 25 днів тому +61

    Making a $300 million dollar game exclusive on a system with only 50 million users may not be enough

    • @JakeySte
      @JakeySte 25 днів тому +3

      *cough* 60 and counting 😅 but yeah Spidey budget got waaaay out of proportion

    • @marcosramos5117
      @marcosramos5117 25 днів тому +11

      Stellar Blade is a prime example of making a killer game and on a decent budget. The environments are still artistic but not crazy detailed - they put the emphasis on their combat mechanics, OST & their protagonist’s “assets” lol - but it works! It’s smart design. Curious to see what the sales come out to be.

    • @richardferguson8259
      @richardferguson8259 25 днів тому +2

      That near 60 also includes impulse buys that rarely if ever use it, 2nd or even 3rd consoles or replacements for broken units so it's really not that many users in reality, of course.
      Helldivers being on pc and ps at launch and being their fastest selling game to date (despite sonys attempt at self sabotage) speaks volumes.
      Sony will be thinking....imagine if we released on Xbox, mobile and Nintendo as well.

    • @smok3sho587
      @smok3sho587 25 днів тому +2

      ​@@JakeySte shipped not sold

    • @austinjoseph2881
      @austinjoseph2881 25 днів тому

      @@marcosramos5117The environments are still very expensive to make

  • @toot1st105
    @toot1st105 25 днів тому +29

    Max hit the nail on the head for me wish we coud go back to talking about video games and not what happenes behind close door of multi billion doller corps

    • @Alex_Logan22
      @Alex_Logan22 25 днів тому +3

      They can though, they just choose not to.

    • @AA-ng9yn
      @AA-ng9yn 25 днів тому +1

      ​@@Alex_Logan22 exactly. Acting like they don't choose the subject of the podcast. They chose not to talk about the insomniac leaks lol

    • @BrianAltano
      @BrianAltano 24 дні тому +4

      @@Alex_Logan22 We frequently do entire episodes about one game. We did so for Stellar Blade. Two weeks ago we talked almost entirely about Sandland and Another Crab's Treasure. This week we planned to cover news in the first half and then games we're playing in the second half and ended up going longer on the exclusivity convo. Saying we "choose not to" talk about video games is wildly disingenuous.

  • @BolognaRob
    @BolognaRob 25 днів тому +14

    PS3 is still free multiplayer online.

  • @SerialBitBanger
    @SerialBitBanger 25 днів тому +4

    Stray was a perfect game. No way I’d play it without the talking robots

  • @muhammadseifullah272
    @muhammadseifullah272 25 днів тому +3

    The animal game that Max couldn't think of, that has similar vibes to ANIMAL WELL, is called KarmaZoo. It was released in November 2023.

  • @ChesterMan-qd3xj
    @ChesterMan-qd3xj 24 дні тому +2

    “Back in the day,” games were just made to be fun, and were experimental in the process because publishers didn’t really know yet what would sell. Now publishers see what sells, and it’s like the modern day gold rush. Everyone is trying to get a piece of that, but only a couple are actually striking gold, and there will be a lot of losses in the process.

  • @H0rnets52
    @H0rnets52 25 днів тому +2

    Ultimately, publishers don't come up with expectations for a game. Shareholders do. Investors expect a certain amount of profits from a company, or they sell their stock, lowering the value of the company.

  • @XiTSlash
    @XiTSlash 25 днів тому +3

    Online mp was always free on PS3, hell it still is

  • @the_realJAMES
    @the_realJAMES 25 днів тому +2

    Games need to be better. Not more expensive. Take me back to the PS3 days and give me a PSP2 to play on.

  • @AshyLarryBoi
    @AshyLarryBoi 25 днів тому +3

    the n64 had a crazy controller and all my friends had it at around 7 years old along with the playstation controller and sega dreamcast. not sure if you want your kid getting that into games younger than that. If you play at elementary school then theres a safe bet youve built a connection with whatever console you have. you dont have to play a console sub 5 years old to have a connection with a console.

  • @Sneeks33129
    @Sneeks33129 25 днів тому +1

    Thanks for the show, gang!

  • @jasonearls4823
    @jasonearls4823 22 дні тому

    We bought a Hori controller for our kids back on PS4. It was smaller portioned for little kid hands. They really liked it.

  • @AllAndreasIs
    @AllAndreasIs 25 днів тому +3

    Thanks for the sensible, level-headed and passionate talks about the games industry and how it can continue thriving amongst lay-offs and cuts! Best podcast! Beyond!

    • @BrianAltano
      @BrianAltano 25 днів тому +1

      Thanks for rocking with us and leaving a nice comment! Way better than reading the ones from dudes who hate watch every week and don’t know the difference between “there” and “they’re”

  • @ByungSuk
    @ByungSuk 24 дні тому +2

    Is AAA console exclusive dying? Things we have this discussion 15 years ago during the ps3, Xbox 360 era?

    • @BrianAltano
      @BrianAltano 23 дні тому +5

      During the PS3 era Naughty Dog shipped four new games plus the Left Behind DLC. They haven’t shipped one so far on PS5 outside of remasters of PS4 games and everything they made last gen is now on PC. It’s absolutely a very different world than it was 15 years ago.

    • @ByungSuk
      @ByungSuk 23 дні тому

      @@BrianAltano it definitely is not the same. With a few exceptions, or more likely some devs being more secretive about the games they are making (Nintendo)... AAA devs will release smaller games and smaller devs will take majority of the earnings per year since it's smaller costs and development. AAA devs will still exist. But the gaming landscape will change more. The concerning part is will the quality remain consistent vs a flood of games that hit the market for the sake of money.
      AAA games will continue but the risk will remain great. The PS3 era was expensive being over 75m+ for a single title but the risk wasn't so dire as it is now. Obviously we're seeing this in our own industry now.
      We might be able to craft amazing worlds and games with a AA title and use that as a pivoting point for bigger ideas later on.

  • @iXiClub
    @iXiClub 23 дні тому +1

    Lmao calling out Greg was the best bit 😂

  • @MichaelClarkJR
    @MichaelClarkJR 25 днів тому

    Why does the guy look like he is in a cyberpunk setting with the lights in the background

  • @Younghoon15
    @Younghoon15 21 день тому

    The over inflated budgets of triple A games have made exclusivity non profitable or lose a bunch of potential profit. Big shock these billion dollar video game publishers and companies don't want exclusivity since it means they could make less money

  • @maxducoudray
    @maxducoudray 25 днів тому +1

    This feels like a hole in Sony's strategy. They always worked to make their console the best selling and could then rely on having the market share to profit off of game sales. But that's harder to do now, so that entire approach feels weak. Nintendo focuses more on the games themselves and are doing great. Sony has some great games, of course, but a lot of their big games all feel the same to me. I'm tired of open world, third person, generic action, hunting for waypoints on a map.

    • @Alex_Logan22
      @Alex_Logan22 25 днів тому +1

      Because none of Nintendo’s games are samey

  • @HDGaminTutorials
    @HDGaminTutorials 25 днів тому

    This is all about options more games for gamers = more money

  • @IBODEGAI
    @IBODEGAI 25 днів тому +3

    I’ve always had big Wreck-It Ralph hands. Keep making giant controllers for people like me FTK.

  • @tritun5154
    @tritun5154 21 день тому

    Pretty sure 70hr AAA games will be prompt pretty soon.

  • @koffypr1
    @koffypr1 21 день тому

    How about same game different DLC?

  • @leeroy1986
    @leeroy1986 25 днів тому +2

    Exclusivity used to matter when consoles weren't loss leaders. With the population growth of PC/ mobile gaming, much of the monetary growth is to be found there (sadly).

  • @11d3adly11
    @11d3adly11 25 днів тому +1

    Great taking pts on console exclusively between the 3 of ya'll...I definitely see sony doin day 1 on PC in the future for all games

  • @hododod246
    @hododod246 25 днів тому

    If Sony didn't care about console sales, yeah they could release the games on PC day one.

  • @Skateandcreate9
    @Skateandcreate9 21 день тому

    If we’re doing this then bring more pc games to console

  • @RougeMephilesClone
    @RougeMephilesClone 25 днів тому +2

    The end of console exclusives...? For some, it might be.
    **Glances back to Nintendo doing sit-ups in a dark corner.**
    For some.

  • @horizon92lee
    @horizon92lee 25 днів тому

    Smt v vengeance hype

  • @Oruninn
    @Oruninn 25 днів тому

    Consoles will turn into handhelds and Xbox may have a desktop mode

  • @jasonsmith530
    @jasonsmith530 24 дні тому

    Can’t wait to play with halo on my

  • @jakebbibwoii
    @jakebbibwoii 25 днів тому +6

    Does Akeem need to have a flashing background for this? Not great for people with epilepsy 😅

    • @11d3adly11
      @11d3adly11 25 днів тому +1

      Ikr it's very distracting

    • @kadosho02
      @kadosho02 25 днів тому +5

      Akeem is having a rave party

  • @dustingowens4771
    @dustingowens4771 25 днів тому +9

    This panel was way off

  • @leesi25
    @leesi25 25 днів тому

    😢😢 I can't

  • @greenchile6554
    @greenchile6554 25 днів тому +5

    "why buy a $500 Playstation"? vs. a $2000+ PC gaming rig capable of running the Playstation PC games...? really? lol

    • @BrianAltano
      @BrianAltano 25 днів тому +2

      We say this in the episode...

    • @greenchile6554
      @greenchile6554 24 дні тому +5

      @@BrianAltano kind of ...but then spent most of the episode referencing how everyone can just pick up the latest/greatest on PC vs. Console, as if everyone has the rig to play them at the same quality on console (or better) or wants to deal with the constant maintenance/upgrade/compatibility/shitty port issues PC gaming brings vs. the simplicity of a console.

    • @mrpetebojangles21
      @mrpetebojangles21 24 дні тому +1

      You can easily beat the performance of a PS5 for around $800-1000.

    • @greenchile6554
      @greenchile6554 19 днів тому

      @@mrpetebojangles21so twice what a PS5 costs and then I'll need to upgrade again in 1 to 2 yrs to play the latest/greatest? No thanks.

  • @angelofthelight1
    @angelofthelight1 20 днів тому

    No it wont, since nintendo still have exclusivities, but might be the only one then.

  • @leighhockridge3198
    @leighhockridge3198 25 днів тому

    Can anyone remember the last time these guys didnt talk about or mention nintendo on this playstation podcast? Yeah me either 🙄🙄

    • @BrianAltano
      @BrianAltano 24 дні тому +1

      We also mentioned Xbox and PC a bunch on this episode. Discussing PlayStation within the context of their competition and the history of the medium in general makes more sense than doing so in a vacuum.

  • @jorgealonso9792
    @jorgealonso9792 25 днів тому +1

    Stellar blade says hi besides basically most of Nintendo's ip's will stay on that console What's happening over at failbox is not what's happening industry wide that's just a nonsense title for this video!

    • @krspaceT1
      @krspaceT1 21 день тому

      And by most we mean all but Mighty 101

  • @domtrimboli1799
    @domtrimboli1799 25 днів тому

    Gonna be honest, couldn't watch this with the background on the far right. Way too distracting, was bothering my eyes.

    • @Pofuk363
      @Pofuk363 23 дні тому

      Akeemjarquavious

  • @johanblomquist8705
    @johanblomquist8705 25 днів тому +3

    From platform holders? No.
    From third party. Yes’ish.

    • @krspaceT1
      @krspaceT1 21 день тому

      Xbox and Sony may disagree. But for Nintendo it will remain

  • @MorrisWilsonFvcks
    @MorrisWilsonFvcks 21 день тому

    If anything PC exclusives should go extinct. It's unfair that there are many pc games that aren't availed on console.

  • @mushypee1
    @mushypee1 25 днів тому +2

    Nope exclusives still.needed just a tough time, things will iron out themselves.

  • @ARIXANDRE
    @ARIXANDRE 25 днів тому +1

    Nintendo left the chat room.

  • @Axtmoerder
    @Axtmoerder 24 дні тому +1

    Of course not, with Xbox dying we will see more and more ps5 console exclusives as publisher will making less and less Xbox versions, it’s just not worth if games get outsold 10:1 in favour of ps5. Not to mention the struggle to make 2024 games even run on series s

  • @thegamegeezer5424
    @thegamegeezer5424 25 днів тому

    Is this a PlayStation podcast?

  • @MarsWrestlingKingdom
    @MarsWrestlingKingdom 21 день тому

    Hopefully yes we dont need AAA games which are mostly open world and repetitive, we also need Less Budget high quality games like Hifi Rush, Hellblade 1 and a plague tales.

  • @jermelpurse3018
    @jermelpurse3018 25 днів тому

    For crying out loud IGN timestamps get with the times quite literally get with the times

  • @davidhamid8025
    @davidhamid8025 25 днів тому +1

    Not for Nintendo 😂

  • @jonnywildbuns
    @jonnywildbuns 24 дні тому +1

    Steam is the future. Always has.

  • @JakeySte
    @JakeySte 25 днів тому

    Nope. Not yet at least!

  • @Bman220
    @Bman220 25 днів тому +3

    Nope lol

  • @suripto746
    @suripto746 21 день тому

    PS5 is overpriced paperweight 😂

  • @Bman220
    @Bman220 25 днів тому +3

    Ppl want cross platform so that Sony can prop up a failing console…Xbox

    • @BrianAltano
      @BrianAltano 25 днів тому +9

      Sony wants cross platform because their fastest selling game in history just launched day and date on PC. Last year they launched Spider-Man 2 on PS5 only and then had to lay off Insomniac staff. You will absolutely see more first party Sony games launch on PC day one in the future.

    • @AllThingsInfamous1
      @AllThingsInfamous1 25 днів тому +4

      @@BrianAltanoyou are so some acid. Hell divers was a multiplayer game so of course day and date with pc makes sense. The ps5 will be worthless without exclusives. Exclusives matters but people just want everything day and date because Xbox is struggling.

    • @11d3adly11
      @11d3adly11 25 днів тому +2

      ​@AllThingsInfamous1 exclusively is dying system dude ..look at square enix ff16 and rebirth both only ps5 didn't perform well so now they goin all out ...and one time atlus with the persona series and sega with yakuza series was only on sony systems, now both of those series selling even better being on everything..xbox of course is heading full 3rd party and sony will definitely do day 1 pc at least ..

    • @BrianAltano
      @BrianAltano 25 днів тому +5

      @@AllThingsInfamous1 Don't shoot the messenger. Just watch and see how many first party PlayStation games launch on PC day one or soon after. Almost all of their first party PS5 games are on PC or are coming to PC. It's either that or keep laying off staff at each studio when a game doesn't recoup its losses.

    • @leeroy1986
      @leeroy1986 25 днів тому +4

      ​@AllThingsInfamous1 The PS5's most played games are: Call of Duty, Fifa, Fortnite and GTA. None of them are exclusive games, lol.