Thinking in Shapes to Simplify an Image

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  • @sunnyseacat6857
    @sunnyseacat6857 Місяць тому +13

    "... the thinking that goes on before you pick up a brush." Oh!
    3rd time watching and learning more each time. Thank you Ian. You explain everything so well.

  • @ericsprouse4549
    @ericsprouse4549 Місяць тому +31

    You are a gift to the art community. Thanks for sharing!

  • @paulamitchem1476
    @paulamitchem1476 Місяць тому +7

    Ian, thanks for re-releasing these videos as a monthly theme. I think if people really want to see in shapes they need to take your drawing class. My problem with simplifying is that I have been letting my left brain take over but I am working on it.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому +1

      Hi Paula, it really is just a constant leaning into the design side of the painting. It takes as you know a neurological shift. Just takes some time. Good luck and all the best to you.

  • @gsansoucie
    @gsansoucie Місяць тому +7

    Wow, I’ve watched endless videos around sketching, watercolor, etc. This is the first one that really spoke to me. I’ve been looking for something to do on a daily basis to help build my skills and to be fun. I’ve been getting so lost in the details that my daily projects have all failed. What you have shown me here is a way to focus on the tones, something I’ve done for decades with B&W photography.
    Thank you for this, this summer, we are touring Newfoundland. I hope to have many great opportunities to test this out.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому +1

      I've never been to Newfoundland. And have always wanted to go to paint. Every painter I know who goes says it is fantastic. Have a great trip. And delighted you found the video helpful. All the best.

  • @obmaps
    @obmaps Місяць тому +7

    Dear Ian, I only recently discovered your video tutorials, and must say I’m in love with your style of painting and teaching and your compelling demeanor! I am retired now after a lifetime of work as an advertising and graphic designer. I had my own business. You could say that I’m a skilled ‘conceptual creative’. But I have been stumbling along with painting and felt very frustrated by my inclination to focus on detail yet I yearn to paint more loosely, like you do. Your guidance has helped me to realize that I can see the composition of a drawing or painting more as a graphic design. (Insert head smack emoji here!) You gave me permission to purposely make the composition the strongest aspect of the narrative. With this epiphany I am so excited to explore painting again! Thank you. Thank you.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому +1

      I've had a lot of students over the years and for me the ones that were graphic designers get the whole idea fastest. Because as you say I explain the idea of you are developing first and foremost a design, a dramatic design. Oh you mean like I"ve been doing all my life! Yes exactly that.

    • @kathleenm3443
      @kathleenm3443 Місяць тому

      @obmaps I also had a career in Graphic Design. I started taking Ian’s classes two years ago and have found them to me super helpful, and instructive. I highly recommend them. 😊

  • @cynthiahale9888
    @cynthiahale9888 Місяць тому +13

    If I am grasping this correctly, the drawing is the “middle plane” of your painting break down, then you decide which if any details you eventually put in after painting the block in. A notan, or quick thumbnail sketch would be the “back” plane to check compositional structure. I have such a difficult time choosing which details to put in my sketch. This was very helpful.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому +6

      Hi Cynthia, I don't always do the drawings. Only if I'm not clear on something. Often I can pretty tell what'll happen. The thumbnail I almost always to as you say for structure of the whole. But I like doing these drawings just for themselves. And I will say when I do it does help with being really clear on the main value masses since that is really the only tool you have to make the drawing. All the best.

    • @cynthiahale9888
      @cynthiahale9888 Місяць тому

      Thank you, I was pretty sure that this type of drawing would not be practical in a lot of cases, but often very helpful when you do them serving as a road map for the block in. I imagine using this more for larger studio paintings. And of course they are quite lovely on their own. BTW, do you teach this drawing style in one of your courses?

    • @juliegriffiths4272
      @juliegriffiths4272 Місяць тому

      This is exactly what I need to get my head around. I'm forever struggling with this. Would you use this method to cut out too much detail in a close up of a hedgerow? Thank you.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому +2

      @@cynthiahale9888 Hi Cynthia, I often use these drawings, about 6” along the bottom edge, in advance of, as you say, larger studio painting. So the big masses are really clear to me before doing a fairly fast block in of the whole thing. I use thumbnails which, mine at least if you see them, are really just sketch maps of the main structure. And sometimes it’s just nice to draw for it’s own sake. I do teach exactly this in my Mastering Composition course. How to draw like as a way to think through your paintings before you put brush to canvas. It in the end saves so much time and really helps build confidence. If you are getting my UA-cam videos as an email, like today, then when I teach it again, which might not be until next spring, then you will get word. If you are not on my email list go to ianroberts.com and sign up and you’ll get the free 4 themed videos monthly. All the best.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому +4

      @@juliegriffiths4272 Hi Julie, if you have a hedgerow in front of you there are two major considerations to painting that without getting caught up in detail. One is the sun shining and are parts of the hedge in light and are parts in shadow. Perhaps the top in light and the side in shadow. Then THAT is the main thing you want to get across. We know already the hedgerow is made of masses of leaves. You don’t need to tell us that. Then the second thing is the edge of the hedgerow against what is behind it. Or the edge between the lit side of the hedge and the shadow side of the hedge. Most of the information about the hedgerow we give to the viewer right along that edge. That is where the “detail” is. Along the edge. The main mass you paint very simply. Hope that helps.

  • @paulmorey9233
    @paulmorey9233 Місяць тому +5

    Hi Ian. As an avid watcher of your vids for the last 4 years or so,I would like to thank you, and it is with the greatest joy that I will look forward to your new direction of travel, and wish you the very best on your new path. (Old dogs can't learn new tricks EH) Sincerest thanks again Cheers Paul

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому

      Well Paul we'll see how those new tricks work out. But I'm excited and that of course is a good start. Delighted you have been enjoying the videos. All the best.

  • @bloomhavenstudios
    @bloomhavenstudios Місяць тому +3

    You have finally given me the answer I have been searching for. I know I include too much detail in my paintings but I couldn't find an answer on how to simplify. Your explanation is so clear and logical. This will become part of my process. Thank you.😮

  • @FatMatters
    @FatMatters Місяць тому +6

    You’re the best. Thank you. I’m a watercolorist but I’ve been able to relate what you teach to my medium.

  • @markdonovan1540
    @markdonovan1540 Місяць тому +5

    A goldmine of insights presented in a visually understandable way. Thank you for sharing.

  • @dutchamericanman
    @dutchamericanman Місяць тому +2

    What a rich and meaningful blessing it is to have these, your videos, your excellent instruction and direction. I’m grateful to have these, to learn from your experience, and to benefit from your very excellent teaching. Thank you.

  • @christinedozier6071
    @christinedozier6071 Місяць тому +3

    Shaft of Light photo really brought it home! Thanks so much. Perfect timing for me

  • @martinsancassani3207
    @martinsancassani3207 Місяць тому +3

    Good Teacher! I thank you

  • @108bhavani
    @108bhavani Місяць тому +1

    Thank you Ian I have been in the dead zone Art wise for a while .Watching you videos inspire me to take up the pencils once again. I so appreciate your teaching style and generosity Miriam .

  • @conniemanriquez2144
    @conniemanriquez2144 Місяць тому +1

    THANKS IAN, I appreciate any new video that you are able to share with your followers!

  • @esmaanderson1802
    @esmaanderson1802 24 дні тому

    This has been incredibly instructional for me as someone who started fairly late on this journey and felt overwhelmed by all I have to learn. Thank you dweply and profoundly.

  • @rhonamocke6527
    @rhonamocke6527 Місяць тому +1

    I was so looking forward to your video and at last. Love it, thanks

  • @peggysharrow2312
    @peggysharrow2312 Місяць тому +2

    Our local plein air painting group starts its painting season this coming Wed. these simplifying videos are very helpful. Peggy

  • @angelamccoll9786
    @angelamccoll9786 8 годин тому

    Fabulous info....thank you so much..👍👍💫💫💫

  • @saltandiron3379
    @saltandiron3379 23 дні тому

    You rock dude! This is the best instructional video I’ve seen on UA-cam.

  • @corallall
    @corallall Місяць тому +5

    I remember good old times when this video was uploaded in first time😊

  • @aekorfker
    @aekorfker Місяць тому +1

    I skipped my study step on a little in between the painting last week because I wasn’t feeling like making a sketch first, let me tell you it was one big struggle and not of the good kind. The chances of succes exponentially increase by not skipping the thumbnail! I’ve got to thank you and Diane mize for learning this.

  • @biniways1
    @biniways1 Місяць тому

    Thank you so much for this! 🎉Much appreciated!

  • @echopathy
    @echopathy Місяць тому

    As i'm currently deciding which portions of an animation background to keep, this helps immensely. Thank you.

  • @judynail1690
    @judynail1690 Місяць тому +1

    That was so helpful! Especially when outdoors and so much information everywhere.

  • @andrzejmaranda3699
    @andrzejmaranda3699 Місяць тому +3

    VERY IMPORTANT, INTERESTING & VALUABLE video!

  • @thefeelcompany
    @thefeelcompany Місяць тому

    Fabulous explanation !!!

  • @acrylicpoursgalore6843
    @acrylicpoursgalore6843 Місяць тому +1

    I really really appreciate you!!! Your videos are so perfectly put together and inspire - thank you!!!

  • @simonnemason2162
    @simonnemason2162 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you. Food for serious thought.

  • @MattHalpain
    @MattHalpain 26 днів тому

    Beautiful art style.

  • @Valentin-sz3wd
    @Valentin-sz3wd Місяць тому +13

    I think your shelves are collapsing. 😅

  • @PhotoWix
    @PhotoWix Місяць тому

    Wonderful simplification of composition design decisions. Very accessible. Wonderful examples. Gratitude for your generosity.

  • @dragomegaman3711
    @dragomegaman3711 29 днів тому

    I Thank You for your contribution Sir

  • @bebop54
    @bebop54 Місяць тому

    🖼😇🎨💖🙏🏼thank you so much Ian for all that you do
    & your great generosity...

  • @Ruhi60444
    @Ruhi60444 Місяць тому

    Thank you❤

  • @fernandoboavida1475
    @fernandoboavida1475 Місяць тому

    Amazing video! Fantastic advice! Thanks!

  • @hippopotamusbosch
    @hippopotamusbosch Місяць тому +1

    I remember having 40 minutes to make a painting or drawing every day in high school art class. Nothing like having a tight schedule to focus the mind.

  • @redlady37
    @redlady37 Місяць тому

    Thank you for this simple yet important insight.

  • @midoann
    @midoann 28 днів тому

    Arigatou! No one told me how to simplify and that made me nuts! At the beginning the explanation graphic didn’t help because I didn’t know the tech terms but then the whole video was crystal clear. Wow! Amazing! I went back to the graphic at the beginning and ah! okay, I took a photo of the graphic so I can use it when I’m drawing. Thanks from 🇯🇵

  • @danja7691
    @danja7691 Місяць тому

    This has helped me tremendously. I've been working on a sketch of a motorcycle that up until now has been giving me fits. This video has now shown me a better way forward. 😎

  • @kee04O
    @kee04O 27 днів тому

    That is amazing

  • @falcongreens2570
    @falcongreens2570 Місяць тому

    I needed this, thank you.

  • @TM10000
    @TM10000 Місяць тому

    This was a very educational video. I always fall into the trap of trying to show too much detail. I think on your awesome restaurant photo though you may have lost something in the simplification. I found the closest chair to be a major component as well as the glassware on the table. The picture is an amazing study in varieties of light, from the diffused window behind the standing woman and her translucent apron to the glaring white on the other window, sparkling glassware, geometrical highlights on the chairs and finally the hard to replicate polished waves on the bench. Really beautiful.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому

      If I were painting it I might include more. But in a small drawing I just leave things, like say the glasses, out because it's just too small to really show. But in a painting, say 16 or 20 inches wide, well then you're probably right they would be worth including. Best wishes.

  • @maryloueppard425
    @maryloueppard425 Місяць тому

    Thank you very much. Immensely helpful! Blessings!

  • @adrianwilliams763
    @adrianwilliams763 Місяць тому

    Beautifully explained. All about learning to ‘see’ a picture, not what is actually there. There concept is a a bit weird until you understand it.

  • @Izegrim59
    @Izegrim59 24 дні тому

    Very interesting, thx

  • @tonyaredchenko142
    @tonyaredchenko142 Місяць тому

    Thank youuuu Master !!! 🤍🤍🤍

  • @user-ld9eu4tk1c
    @user-ld9eu4tk1c Місяць тому

    Hello Ian, great teaching, as usual. Thank you

  • @vilhelmlarsen9565
    @vilhelmlarsen9565 Місяць тому

    amazing

  • @markcaselius5993
    @markcaselius5993 Місяць тому

    Really valuable video Ian. Seeing the process makes all the difference. However, for me, seeing and doing aren't always compatible.😂

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому +1

      I think you bridge that gap with practice Mark. We all know it of course. But nothing really replaces it. All the best.

  • @davejones732
    @davejones732 Місяць тому

    Thank U. Great class.

  • @salauddeensyed5295
    @salauddeensyed5295 Місяць тому

    Thank you Sir, for explaining to see differently as an artist...

  • @annakoot9762
    @annakoot9762 Місяць тому

    Thank you!

  • @maryhigginson9710
    @maryhigginson9710 Місяць тому

    Very useful.Thanks.

  • @karincarter4962
    @karincarter4962 Місяць тому

    Thank you 😊

  • @sherrierichard2848
    @sherrierichard2848 Місяць тому

    Your drawing is so good…all those perfectly spaced strokes you make to show shapes and values! Where would you suggest we begin to study how to draw as proficiently as you do? Thanks for your videos Ian!

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому

      Well not a great one for self-promotion but I do teach exactly how to do that once a year. Probably the next one will be in the spring. I'm not sure how else teaches it. Someone must.

  • @suekeeling3960
    @suekeeling3960 Місяць тому

    Many thanks

  • @blueluckylon
    @blueluckylon Місяць тому

    Thank you so much…

  • @hannaknapczyk5645
    @hannaknapczyk5645 Місяць тому

    thank you

  • @naturevideos6496
    @naturevideos6496 Місяць тому

    Great!

  • @MsSarah32503
    @MsSarah32503 Місяць тому

    Thank you :)

  • @marygawley2637
    @marygawley2637 Місяць тому

    Thanks for the video ian. I found it very instructive. Have you any hints on how to sketch easily? I'm useless at drawing.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  28 днів тому

      Hi Mary, you see those marks I make one after another close together to create a large simple value shape. Try that. I mean it is not rocket science but it does take practice. You take a sharp pencil and grind one surface so it is a bit flat and then draw using that chiselled edge. It stops your drawings from what one of my students call his chicken scratches. Good luck.

  • @artofmiles
    @artofmiles Місяць тому

    Usually this approach of minimalizing comes intuitively when painting from the beginning to the end. It's nice to show and remind us artists the basics about structure and to have it broken down and explained. It's also interesting to note that he's using photo as an important reference for the reduction process. A photo is still in charge here. So no sign of adding items from elsewhere to possibly change the structure. Staying true to the photo source. Why is that?

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому

      I think there are two reasons I worked from the photo as it was. One is I chose the photo because I liked it pretty much (structurally) as it was. And second if I am trying to explain one idea in a video I don't want to add confusion by introducing new elements, like pulling things from other photos say at the same time. One thing at a time is sort of my motto for each video. All the best.

  • @irvine3392
    @irvine3392 Місяць тому +1

    Welcome back😄

  • @MaisnerProductions
    @MaisnerProductions Місяць тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @AdrianLobodzinski
    @AdrianLobodzinski 19 днів тому

    What's your camera of choice? Do you use one pencil or more for these sketches?

  • @katrinweigel3796
    @katrinweigel3796 29 днів тому

    Hi Ian, how long does a drawing like the small ones here take you?

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  28 днів тому

      Hi Katrin, maybe 30-40 minutes. I can lay down those flat value masses pretty quickly. At first you have to go slower to make sure they look like flat shapes and we don't get distracted by the marks themselves.

  • @nickrodis6862
    @nickrodis6862 Місяць тому

    Salamat po

  • @corallall
    @corallall Місяць тому +1

    As far as I remember, you promised that this would be the last video and what do I see now you have released a new video?😊

    • @yijumiller5659
      @yijumiller5659 Місяць тому +1

      It is old video

    • @corallall
      @corallall Місяць тому +2

      @@yijumiller5659 yeah I realized that already 😀 no problem anyway ❤️ no problem anyway

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому

      Yes, it is a reupload. I am glad you enjoyed it. Thank you and all the best

  • @loretacolantonio7398
    @loretacolantonio7398 Місяць тому +1

    Grazie from Italy!

  • @JanaSovger
    @JanaSovger Місяць тому +1

    🙏🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷

  • @mahmoudelhennawy5505
    @mahmoudelhennawy5505 Місяць тому

    🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤

  • @deniseewert6372
    @deniseewert6372 Місяць тому

    😊😊😊❤❤❤

  • @tigermtnk9
    @tigermtnk9 Місяць тому

    I'm curious as to why you leave in the telephone poles on this and the previous. image?

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому

      I like telephone poles. Not a lot of them. But one say gives a good vertical placeholder in space. Really clear where it sits in space. And helps engage the vertical structure on the picture plane. I put them in for design reasons.

    • @tigermtnk9
      @tigermtnk9 Місяць тому

      @@IanRobertsMasteringComposition thank you!

  • @313R3N
    @313R3N 23 дні тому

    11:34 nice! 8==D

  • @veroniquesterckendries9143
    @veroniquesterckendries9143 Місяць тому

  • @house_xm
    @house_xm 16 днів тому

    9:21 lol!
    *Sigh* yes, im almost 30 yrs old.

    • @house_xm
      @house_xm 16 днів тому

      Awesome video by the way! Thank you!

  • @nickhayley
    @nickhayley Місяць тому

    I suppose the last video was your second last video 😂

  • @maryloueppard425
    @maryloueppard425 Місяць тому

    Why did you keep that telephone pole in the foreground? Seemed quite distracting to the whole.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Місяць тому +2

      Hi Mary, I very often put telephone poles in. Usually just one, not masses of them. I find they are a great vertical place setter in a composition.