The Mold War Challenge: Comparing Basement Finishing Materials
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
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This video will show you how different basement finishing materials react in the event of a basement flood, leak, a water accident, or just by being exposed to typical basement humidity.
Larry Janesky, owner and president of Total Basement Finishing and Dr. Energy Saver, recently conducted this experiment to compare how these different basement walls and flooring solutions behave when exposed to moisture.
To do this, they created an environment that simulates a basement plumbing leakage incident, and tested four flooring assemblies and four wall assemblies.
For the floors, they compared:
• Typical wood decking under carpet or regular laminate.
• A basement subfloor product sold in hardware stores consisting on a chip-board with a dimpled plastic mat on the bottom.
• The ThermalDry Insulated Floor Decking, developed by Total Basement Finishing, which is an inorganic magnesium oxide board insulated with rigid foam insulation.
• The MillCreek Flooring, also available through the Total Basement Finishing network, which is a 100% waterproof, inorganic flooring option that mimics hardwood floors and can be installed straight against the slab without a subfloor.
For the walls, the following assemblies were tested:
• Wood studs, fiberglass insulation and drywall, with a wood baseboard (the most common wall assembly in the U.S.)
• Metal studs, fiberglass insulation, water and mold-resistant drywall, and a pre-primed wood baseboard.
• Total Basement Finishing EverLast Wall panel, which is vinyl-finished cement board insulated with rigid foam, and a PVC baseboard.
• Total Basement Finishing Smart Wall System, which is a variation of the EverLast system, consisting of continuous rigid foam board insulation installed against the wall, with attached metal studs over the foam board, to hang a vinyl-finished cement board, and a PVC baseboard.
The time-lapse video shows how these different assemblies perform in contact with water, in terms of water absorption and mold growth. Total Basement Finishing products clearly outperform all the typical assemblies because they were specifically developed for basements by the world’s authority in basement environment specialization.
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If your house has water in the basement, you have other issues to worry about, but I can see how products that repel water would be a good thing.
Didn’t hear anything about the cement board at all.
It's really easy to stage a test that would show your product being superior. I have a couple of issues with this video. First, it is true for sure that the foam and plastic products are better for the simple fact they are water resistant. The scenarios played out are likely not typical. For example, if your basement floods are you going to just leave it there for weeks? Probably not. With a controlled environment and proper maintenance, even drywall with fiberglass over time would not show the results demonstrated.
The drywall shown in the video is touching the floor. If installed properly, the drywall would be raised from the flooring for the exact reason of avoiding water.
A more modern approach would be to use EPS or XPS foam panels which could be purchased from any major hardware store and then put your studs after it even with drywall. Using proper moisture control and water removal.
next, making sure water leaks are patched before finishing is proper...
Thank you...this is important lesson for me but will require more research. TY
Just to make sure, there's no organic material in the TBF materials? So no cellulose in the Everlast Panels?
Try roxul. Any water does not even reach the middle of the batt. It repels water. Seen other videos where the chip board has a foam underlayment with lines to pass water. Plus it's a good idea for a sump pump. The ending was a no brained. Of course your product survived. Plus it also depends on how prep your walls are before drywall. Keep it a half inch off the ground n use PVC baseboard. Any leaks, fix first.
@2:35 The video is correct about plumbing. And if you live in a flood plain, a wet year followed by a couple hard rains will provide moisture in the basement that cannot be controlled even with a good drain tile and sump pump. Just sayin.
Did I just watch an ad?
Anybody knows that you never place wood or fiberglass insulation in direct contact with a basement concrete wall or floor.
Apparently the previous owners of my house hired a contractor to finish the basement who did not know this...😭
I did not know this.. but i live in Arizona. For some reason we don't have basements. Wish we did though, would stay a lot cooler and cost less for my $400 Summer AC bill
what is the best products for basement remolding ?
Bob Yang paint
comparing this to fiberglass batts on a basement wall is so 1970's.
Basement subfloor. Canadian product call DryBarrier. Much cheaper, stronger, and will not absorb water
I am completely agreeing with Tadziu, and want to say on TOP of them being terrible with replies. THEY DON'T SELL THE PRODUCT to consumers. You HAVE to have a company nearby to install it, as they only sell it to companies who install it. I have no idea why they don't sell to consumers. It's not hard to install, and I guarantee its exactly the same as Rigid EPS/XPS panels with T&G Plywood. This video is just a scare tactic. If you have flood issues, your homeowners insurance will cover ALL repairs!
Haha. I got a quote for this system. Might be the "best" but they wanted $30k for a 600 sq ft area. I did it myself for $5k in materials. I can tear the walls and carpet our 6 or 7 times and still be ahead. Great product if you can afford it. I can't, just don't let the basement flood.
lol
Holy cow! They were charging 30k just for materials????
@@mikes8016 30k was materials and labor.
Were they quoting you floors, walls, ceilings and electrical? Did your 5k include floors, walls, ceilings and electrical? Did you use drywall or fiber rock or hardie board? Trying to get an idea for myself.
@@mikes8016 The 5k included everything but fixtures (toilet, vanity, cabinets countertops, etc). I used standard drywall walls and ceilings, green drywall in the bathroom. I ran all my own electrical, pulled a permit and had it inspected. I rented a jackhammer and broke up the floor to access the drain line for the toilet myself, but hired a licensed plumber to hook everything up and stub out the half bath. I also hired a guy to do the drywall finishing. I wanted it to look good. I assume the 30k they quoted was for a 100% complete finished space, but I didn't look at the fine print because there was no point. It was not a real option.
No protective gear there then with the mold....
Something to be said for selling fear....
There's nothing like showing the absolutely worst basements on Earth to sell your products. Maybe try having conditioned air in your basement with an air return.
I have a man cave in my basement that's 424sqft. How much would it be to have my walls, flooring an ceiling done the right way??? Please and thanks.
@@tadzius5829 ^this. You'll never be able to afford beer for the man cave again.
At the point of such saturation, it’s a gut job anyway.
Who puts wood and fiberglass directly against a concrete wall anymore
I was going to put my bear rug in my basement man cave !
90# per panel? This will be a great product for the Ferrigno family. You installed the panels in a pond. This was a ridiculous test.
The house I bought years ago had fiberglass insulation WORST thing for a basement! Gets wet and moist and smells. I through out lots of bags full of that crap. Never buy or use it!
2” poly styrofoam is best thing for a basement insulation, no issues now.
Your weights are not apples to apples. If you truly want the amount of water absorption, you need to dab off all exterior water on our test pieces.
Mold is bad but you can achieve a great finished basement without a huge cost do your research
Drywall is too weak for the basement
Paper-faced Drywall, yes. Fiberglass-faced (DensGlass Gold) does well
this is not a true test of moisture, this a flood test. you have a puddle of water on the floor and then you let the pipe leak for over a week. You got a bigger problem I would call a foundation specialist LOL
Moral of the story - do not have a basement.