Figuring out GE Aerospace's hypersonic aircraft engine breakthrough

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    -Break-
    The race to field reusable hypersonic aircraft just got a whole lot hotter, with GE Aerospace announcing a breakthrough in high-speed jet engine design that could potentially allow aircraft to exceed Mach 10.
    This new propulsion system would combine several different types of air-breathing jet engines to create a combined engine that could make hypersonic aircraft a practical reality in the not-too-distant future. But what sets GE's new turbine-based combined cycle engine apart from other similar efforts is what makes it so exciting... Rotating Detonation Combustion.
    Let's talk about what that is... and what this all means.
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  • @SandboxxApp
    @SandboxxApp  5 місяців тому +56

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    • @kbeasley72
      @kbeasley72 5 місяців тому +1

      Can this engine be used to get to space or low orbit?

    • @geraldmarshall22
      @geraldmarshall22 5 місяців тому

      😊

    • @lanecole-jc4pm
      @lanecole-jc4pm 5 місяців тому +1

      Great news about GEs rotating ignition, I still don't know how it works

    • @steveshoemaker6347
      @steveshoemaker6347 5 місяців тому

      We know that its already in use don't we.....Thanks Alex🇺🇸 for all of your excellent research that goes into your fine videos.........
      Merry Christmas to you and yours...

    • @thehobbyguy7089
      @thehobbyguy7089 5 місяців тому +2

      From the Movie Stealth: "The Talon is capable of hypersonic flight with two combined Pulse Detonation/Scramjet engines." Science fiction has become reality.

  • @erasmus_locke
    @erasmus_locke 5 місяців тому +1008

    Does anyone else think it's funny how turbo fans are mechanically complex but the easiest to make them work whereas scramjets are just a tube but are incredibly hard to make them work?

    • @zspud21
      @zspud21 5 місяців тому +108

      Toob

    • @hussarguitar
      @hussarguitar 5 місяців тому +220

      This is a great illustration of the difference between simple and easy. It also shows that just because something is simple doesn't mean it's easy.

    • @merlesmith6794
      @merlesmith6794 5 місяців тому +72

      Then think about how complex a piston engine is and how much gearing and machining is required to create “power”.

    • @rokadamlje5365
      @rokadamlje5365 5 місяців тому +55

      More like, mechanics makes it possible to control the air. Scramjet is too hot for mechanics. Well thats my view.

    • @kurtwinslow2670
      @kurtwinslow2670 5 місяців тому +21

      @@rokadamlje5365 I think your correct metallurgy is limited by temperature and pressure.

  • @machdaddy6451
    @machdaddy6451 5 місяців тому +366

    This makes me really appreciate how truely advanced, for its time, the SR-71s J58 engine was.

    • @RealKlausSchwab
      @RealKlausSchwab 5 місяців тому +66

      💯 %
      They were designing jet engines that utilize the nose cone shock waves to work properly in a fuselage so advanced it was inadvertently stealthy... in the fifties while writing and designing on pen and paper with a straight edge for reference.
      Absolutely amazing.

    • @ronkreed
      @ronkreed 5 місяців тому +3

      I appreciate the same thing.

    • @frankmcgowan9457
      @frankmcgowan9457 5 місяців тому +18

      Slide rules...

    • @amazin7006
      @amazin7006 5 місяців тому +13

      It was advanced, but just for some perspective, a single F22 F119 engine produces 10,000 pounds more thrust, or about 40% more while weighing 2000 pounds less or about 35% lighter.

    • @sundhaug92
      @sundhaug92 5 місяців тому +25

      @@amazin7006 The complexity of the J58 came from how big the speed-range it had to deal with was

  • @rustymustard7798
    @rustymustard7798 5 місяців тому +407

    The biggest hurdle is going to be finding an acronym for the fancy dual mode rotating detonation turbo fanjet thingy.

    • @Hungary_0987
      @Hungary_0987 5 місяців тому +4

      Yes lol😂

    • @YmusAnon
      @YmusAnon 5 місяців тому +6

      Dmrdj

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 5 місяців тому +32

      FanScramDetJet. There, done:-)

    • @rustymustard7798
      @rustymustard7798 5 місяців тому +59

      @@vanguard9067 It doesn't count because you didn't spend $20 million tax dollars to create it. Also it makes too much sense.

    • @johnle6982
      @johnle6982 5 місяців тому +1

      Where is the rotating moniker?

  • @brandonhultgren5776
    @brandonhultgren5776 5 місяців тому +70

    To quote Perun: “When most have to chose an option, the US (and GE) just says yes.”

  • @rudolphmarchand9644
    @rudolphmarchand9644 5 місяців тому +50

    As a 74 year old geezer, much of this video zooms over my dome at hypersonic speed! Still an interesting presentation! Thanks.😵‍💫

    • @Tam0de
      @Tam0de 5 місяців тому +5

      Hey, you were once a strapping young man at some point. And we'll all get to where you are at some point. It's all a matter of time!

    • @chipsawdust5816
      @chipsawdust5816 5 місяців тому +2

      I'm 65 but have been in the aviation business for over 2/3 of that time so I got a bit more of it...maybe!

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 5 місяців тому +170

    This sounds like the aviation equivalent of cars going from carburetters to direct fuel injection 👍

    • @jayantadebnath781
      @jayantadebnath781 5 місяців тому +8

      I still use carburetor for the Cessna 172 I fly.

    • @n111254789
      @n111254789 5 місяців тому +25

      Yeah, people in developing nations still plow fields using horses too we ain't saying it don't work just saying there is distinct technological leaps and this is one of em'

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 5 місяців тому +7

      Maybe add transition from low-compression flathead to high-compression dual OHC too.

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 5 місяців тому

      @@n111254789a leap for sure.

    • @helldad4689
      @helldad4689 5 місяців тому +17

      Honestly it might be even bigger. Like if fuel injection, turbochargers, and hybrid powertrains all dropped at the same time. If they can get it working reliably enough for military use, it might be able to power the atmospheric leg of an SSTO spaceplane launch. That's probably a few generations away though.

  • @LettuCe_0199
    @LettuCe_0199 5 місяців тому +47

    This was an excellently created video, and I appreciate how you walked through all the technologies like we never heard them before to really grasp how big of a deal this is

    • @jayl878
      @jayl878 5 місяців тому +1

      It really is a good video. I had to rewind a couple of parts a couple of times to ensure I understood it. I have a grasp on it now. Thank you for the great descriptions and graphics to illustrate a complex subject in a more simple way.

  • @jtjames79
    @jtjames79 5 місяців тому +85

    NASA just fired a RDRE for over 4 minutes. That's more than enough for a rocket stage.

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 5 місяців тому +13

      I wonder at what altitude you need to BYOO (Bring Your Own Oxidizer)

    • @Hebdomad7
      @Hebdomad7 5 місяців тому +9

      ​@@vanguard9067depends on how fast you're going.

    • @w8stral
      @w8stral 5 місяців тому +6

      For rockets RDRE makes 100% sense as they need the TIME quotient of thrust to be longer as the time component is squared while the acceleration component is linear and ALSO allows them to have a larger throttle envelope which currently is severely lacking in rocket motors. This is not true in current turbine designs. Maybe it is for scramjets(I do not know, not something I have studied, but varying the opening size would seem to be a fairly effective throttle) Rockets can squeeze the oxygen, but its combustion chamber is fixed in volume whereas in a turboscramjet it is not as limiting factor is fuel in a small volumetric area already.

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 5 місяців тому +4

      @@Hebdomad7 there must be some maximum altitude where there is is insufficient oxygen to support sufficient combustion to maintain thrust. Thinking specifically about the comment about using the engine as a rocket stage.

    • @fxarts9755
      @fxarts9755 5 місяців тому +7

      @@vanguard9067 the RDRE that nasa tested was a rocket engine with oxidizer. so they work outside the atmosphere. ngl i never heared of rdre in the sense of a normal air breathing jet engine

  • @philatwood2086
    @philatwood2086 5 місяців тому +17

    And Kitty Hawk was only 120 years ago.. amazing technological advancements since then. I really appreciate the clear and concise explanations you give in "layman understandable" language... Bravo Zulu

    • @jamesholden5664
      @jamesholden5664 2 місяці тому

      I'm sure the chineese appreciate the clear and concise explanation to.

    • @philatwood2086
      @philatwood2086 2 місяці тому +1

      If this info was released to OUR public, there is no way China hadn't been aware of the tech already. It's not a secret.. it's not so much how something works as much as can it be built.

  • @truvc
    @truvc 5 місяців тому +26

    YESSSSS! I’ve been waiting excitedly to hear more about RDEs for so long! They always seemed like they had such huge potential

  • @joebeach7759
    @joebeach7759 5 місяців тому +33

    I think the major engineering problem is building an aircraft that can handle high Mach speeds. What materials can handle the heat. All the liquids on the SR-71 were preheated and specially formulated. Especially the fuel, which was also used for cooling. Weapons may be feasible, something that is 1 time use, but something that's going to last long enough to be financially feasible is going to be rough

    • @Boomkokogamez
      @Boomkokogamez 5 місяців тому +2

      Well, Sr-71 use tech from 1960s. A lot has advanced since then. So it shouldn't really be a problem.

    • @RAWDEAL064
      @RAWDEAL064 5 місяців тому +5

      I think this will be more useful, and subsequently pushed harder, for unmanned craft

    • @enginerdy
      @enginerdy 5 місяців тому

      “financially feasible”

    • @joebeach7759
      @joebeach7759 5 місяців тому +2

      @@enginerdy nothing is "financially feasible " then you're 32 trillion in the hole.

    • @chipsawdust5816
      @chipsawdust5816 5 місяців тому +1

      I vote for ceramic leading edges.

  • @maddantt7757
    @maddantt7757 5 місяців тому +21

    Thanks for covering this, Alex. Love your videos!

  • @lomotil3370
    @lomotil3370 5 місяців тому +16

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    03:09 🚀 *GE Aerospace has achieved a Hypersonic dual-mode Ramjet test with rotating detonation combustion, a breakthrough in propulsion technology.*
    05:41 ⚙️ *GE aims to integrate four different engine technologies (turbofans, ramjets, scramjets, rotating detonation combustion) into a single combined system for Hypersonic flight.*
    07:43 🛫 *GE's dual-mode Ramjet with rotating detonation combustion may overcome the velocity gap challenge, allowing efficient operation at speeds below Mach 3 and above Mach 2.*
    12:20 💡 *Rotating detonation combustion offers greater efficiency in ignition, potentially leading to smaller, more fuel-efficient engines for Hypersonic aircraft.*
    23:07 📆 *GE expects to demonstrate the rotating detonation combustion dual-mode Ramjet by 2024, with potential applications in Hypersonic reconnaissance planes or precision strike platforms.*
    24:34 💥 *The U.S. publicly commits to non-nuclear Hypersonic weapons, focusing on conventional systems for immediate use, raising questions about the cost-effectiveness of $100 million missiles.*
    25:00 🔄 *Reusable Hypersonic aircraft capable of delivering conventional munitions, collecting intelligence, and returning for another mission could shift the cost-benefit ratio and make Hypersonic speeds part of day-to-day operations.*
    25:27 🌐 *The exact timeline for the deployment of such technology is uncertain, but breakthroughs like GE's rotating detonation combustion engine suggest that the day of practical, reusable Hypersonic aircraft is inevitable and closer than anticipated.*
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  • @ryanroper628
    @ryanroper628 5 місяців тому +11

    Some of your best content yet bro. Love the Deep dive on each part of the motor

  • @Noisy_Cricket
    @Noisy_Cricket 5 місяців тому +6

    Just FYI, the great thing about a rotation detonation engine is that they work both in space and air. In space, for the RDE to work, you just need to carry liquid oxygen with you. You can throw LOX into an RDE and continue to fly with no problem.

  • @crazzylee
    @crazzylee 5 місяців тому +4

    I watched the test-firing of the rotation, detonation engine the other day. It looks a lot better than when I first heard of the engine. From seconds to now minutes.

  • @francishill6365
    @francishill6365 5 місяців тому +55

    Thank you Sir, this was by far the most exciting break through to ponder the US's continued dominance of the sky.

    • @Aaron-zu3xn
      @Aaron-zu3xn 5 місяців тому +5

      now think of it on a missile welcome to the Sentinel program the ICBM of the future

    • @nineofnine
      @nineofnine 5 місяців тому +1

      Spoken like a true Alpha country.

    • @tropicthndr
      @tropicthndr 5 місяців тому

      Now if we could just produce some dominance over the southern border before our country turns to sht, all this would be worth while.

    • @codprawn
      @codprawn 5 місяців тому

      China has more advanced than this apparently. Also look at the British Reaction Engines Sabre. Getting a lot of interest from the US. Be nice if we had got a mention.

    • @HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle
      @HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@codprawn how so?

  • @HATTRICKKELLETT
    @HATTRICKKELLETT 5 місяців тому +4

    This is a legitimate great press + engineering synopses. -Aerospace Engineer

  • @RichardBejtlich
    @RichardBejtlich 5 місяців тому +6

    This was so well explained that I’m sharing it with my USAFA FB group. Hopefully it gets in front of the cadets so they understand the tech they will be flying soon. 👏

  • @heathwirt8919
    @heathwirt8919 5 місяців тому +6

    Another great and informative video Alex, thank you for that. Hope you feel better soon and have a great holiday.

  • @heinous70
    @heinous70 5 місяців тому +21

    It took a while, but GE collaborating with Honda on the Honda Jet, has finally brought us a VTEC jet engine 🤣

    • @jlehm
      @jlehm 5 місяців тому +1

      Looked more like the passport20 to me.

  • @MrCashewkitty
    @MrCashewkitty 5 місяців тому +2

    Been a while since ive watched Sandboxx. Im always left impressed at the delivery and ability to make an interested layman such as myself grasp whats being covered. Well done....as always.

  • @nugmit1
    @nugmit1 5 місяців тому +6

    Interesting subject and Excellent video. I saw the SR-71 take off and land many many times. It was always very impressive. The commentary was very smart but, I've never quite heard 'ad infinitum' (22:16) pronounced that way. Peace.

  • @MaxQ2989
    @MaxQ2989 5 місяців тому +4

    Alex, your reporting and videos are simply “next level”! Please keep it up and great work!!

  • @user-sy8fr3gv2y
    @user-sy8fr3gv2y 5 місяців тому +5

    Greetings Alex, I appreciate your YT channel and all of the Info and updates on various military technologies - just an FYI as a former employee of Leidos (Ret 2 yrs ago) - we always pronounced it as "Ly-dos". It's name is derived from ka-leidos-cope.

    • @j.d.604
      @j.d.604 Місяць тому

      Is it pronounced LIE-DOSE or LAY-DOSE???

  • @kingdiesel68
    @kingdiesel68 5 місяців тому +8

    Wow I'm an idiot and I was able to follow along and even learn a lot! Thanks Alex and thanks to Dr Combes !

    • @caracoidwren944
      @caracoidwren944 5 місяців тому

      Funny, I'm an idiot too and I wasn't able to follow it.

  • @you_tuber
    @you_tuber 5 місяців тому +2

    I really enjoyed this one Alex. Nice work.
    Merry Christmas to you and your family and I hope you all start feeling better real soon.

  • @brianboye8025
    @brianboye8025 5 місяців тому +9

    It is awesome that we now have great 3D illustrations and videos to help visualize these engines.

  • @ronbridegroom8428
    @ronbridegroom8428 5 місяців тому +4

    You are great at explaining very complicated subjects in an understandable manner. Merry Christmas

    • @beingsentient
      @beingsentient 5 місяців тому

      No he isn't. He never explains what rotating detonation really is.

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 5 місяців тому +5

    Makes me glad I have an interview with GE next week

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 5 місяців тому +2

      Good luck with the interview!

    • @daveyhansen
      @daveyhansen 5 місяців тому +2

      Shine your shoes.

    • @philtorrez4198
      @philtorrez4198 5 місяців тому +1

      Hope you have a nice tie!

    • @daveyhansen
      @daveyhansen 5 місяців тому

      Shoes are most important. It is what people judger you on first, so I am told. Maybe a nice neck tatoo that says "Ram This" would help.@@philtorrez4198

    • @MrTmenzo
      @MrTmenzo 2 місяці тому

      Washing machine department 😜

  • @HenryKlausEsq.
    @HenryKlausEsq. 5 місяців тому +2

    This was an excellent video both in information density and respect for the viewers time. AND you're unwell. Appreciate your efforts. Merry Christmas Alex.

  • @heathwirt8919
    @heathwirt8919 5 місяців тому +25

    Hopefully this technology will be applied to the next generation US air superiority aircraft, this would put it in a class of its own.

    • @sonneh86
      @sonneh86 5 місяців тому +6

      And hopefully they will not let themselves get hacked or spied on again by the Chinese

    • @smoshfan439
      @smoshfan439 5 місяців тому

      @@sonneh86 they better use device independent quantum key distribution

  • @wolfgangjr74
    @wolfgangjr74 5 місяців тому +4

    Loved todays intro track and a great show as always.

  • @TheDaveRout
    @TheDaveRout 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for all your hard work to simplify all this into something I could understand, mostly!

  • @stevejordan7275
    @stevejordan7275 5 місяців тому +1

    Wow, fantastic technology, concise explanations.
    And articulated clearly enough that I can watch them at 2x. Thank you!
    Really good work, both in preproduction and production. Keep it up!

  • @syringistic
    @syringistic 5 місяців тому +23

    Alex, you are absolutely amazing. You just gave a lecture on sub and supersonic combustion engines, and it was entertaining AF!!!! I hope to meet you in person one day so we can grab a beer and talk about aerospace tech:D

  • @user-ij6mf2hp3r
    @user-ij6mf2hp3r 5 місяців тому +10

    Sounds quite scary but, can't have another hyper sonic gap. Just squeeze it till it pops is what it sounds like. Fine job Alex. Still hoping for a balloon from the United States Air Force for you on Christmas day. Thank you for keeping us updated. G. Hames

    • @bluemarlin8138
      @bluemarlin8138 5 місяців тому +1

      The thing is, there’s no more of a hypersonic gap than there was a missile gap in 1960. Ruzzia and China can’t compete in technology, so they just pretend to have lots of scary weapons. Then, we develop lots of weapons that are far superior to what they falsely claimed that their fake weapons could do. They never seem to realize that all their false bravado works against them.

    • @user-ij6mf2hp3r
      @user-ij6mf2hp3r 5 місяців тому

      Thank you for liking my comments. I like your podcast more than you know! Professional and informative. Merry Christmas Alex. Santa is coming, saw the NORAD track on your channel. Keep it up. Jane's probably wants you. Greg Hames

  • @georgesackinger2002
    @georgesackinger2002 5 місяців тому +2

    Absolutely incredible presentation. I learned a huge amount about what is being developed in aircraft engines today. I see why you are such a valued channel. thanks so much for all your work and your expertise of presenting that information.

  • @adbell3364
    @adbell3364 5 місяців тому +2

    Wow! Learned more watching this one video, than years of knowledge assimilation through casual video watching!

  • @shenmisheshou7002
    @shenmisheshou7002 5 місяців тому +5

    An engine such as this has very limited application. The reason is the hypersonic flight envelope is very restricted. The faster you go, the more ballistic your flight path has to get. You have to go very high to avoid the extreme air-frame heating and when you do that, your stall speed approaches your cruise speed. The U2 and the SR-71 both had this issue. The A-12 took 150 miles and about 4 minutes to make a 180 degree turn. For Vietnam and Laos, the A12 and SR-71 could take off from Kadena, fly over Vietnam and Laos, descend and turn over Thailand, Climb back to 79,000, cross back over Laos and Vietnam and return to Kadena. While we could do this in the middle east, such an airplane would not really be able to safely overfly China or Russia, and these are really the only places where you would need hypersonic flight. Otherwise, the primary use would likely be more along the lines of an "Interceptor'" but even here, if you were closing on stealthy jet traveling at Mach 1 towards you at 40,000 feet (closing speed of 70 miles a minute) by the time you detected them you would have only seconds to get a radar lock and if they were not more or less directly in front of you, it is doubtful that a missile launched at such an altitude and speed could even turn in time to make the intercept. (At Mach 6.5, the X-15 needed a special ablative coating. and even with this, the aircraft suffered damage during these high mach flights. Cooling an aircraft flying at this speed for more than a few minutes would be a serious problem.) Airliners would be a better application because they don't have to turn mid flight. One could take off from London and NY in a more or less ballistic flight path but the problem here would be range. Even if this engine was 50% more efficient than the J-58, the range would likely still be less that 4000nm, and here the problem is the 45 minutes of reserve fuel that is required for commercial airliners.

    • @j.f.fisher5318
      @j.f.fisher5318 5 місяців тому

      the other side of the interceptor question is that a missile uses most of its fuel just getting up to speed. Combined with hit-to-kill this would allow very miniaturized weapons or weapons with enormous range. And at high altitude then any missile is also benefitting from conversion of potential energy to help maintain its kinetic energy. How big of a hit-to-kill glide bomb would you need to top-attack kill a tank? And how many of those could you carry?

    • @shenmisheshou7002
      @shenmisheshou7002 5 місяців тому +3

      @@j.f.fisher5318 The biggest issue with using them as a weapon is simply the cost. For a one time use, a simple and inexpensive solid fuel motor is a far better choice. Also, as we have learned from the war in Ukraine, Tanks are extremely susceptible to attack by MANPADS. In fact, the Marines could see this vulnerability and with the enormous logistics required to keep a tank battalion on the move, they decided that it was better to have drones than tanks, and when they made this decision about 5 years ago, the vast majority of people thought the Marines were crazy. I was in the very small minority that actually was a Marine and was all to familiar with the limitations of tanks. In fact, during Desert Storm, helicopters, Bradly's, A-10s combined killed far more tanks than the Abrams did.

    • @hazard3020
      @hazard3020 5 місяців тому

      A while ago now but USSR detected Gary Powers travelling quickly at 75000+ ft.... and 4-5 were lost at a similar altitude near China.

    • @shenmisheshou7002
      @shenmisheshou7002 5 місяців тому +1

      @@hazard3020 As far as I know, two U2s were shot down. Powers in 1960 while overflying the USSR, and Ronald Anderson, shot down on a flight over Cuba in 62. There were no SR-71s shot down, but I think 12 lost in accidents. There is limited application for hypersonic recon aircraft because Drones are fine for tier 3 nations like Iraq or Syria and the National Reconnaissance Office has 49 active spy satellites, and these have better resolution than can be achieved in aircraft at high altitudes. while there may be some small demand for a hypersonic airliner, it is doubtful that one could be profitable. There may be a market for small, private hypersonic business jets though.

    • @hazard3020
      @hazard3020 5 місяців тому

      @@shenmisheshou7002 Many thanks for your kind reply. Yes that's what i remembered. I agree with you that Satellites provide far better long term solutions.

  • @adamh1228
    @adamh1228 5 місяців тому +5

    thats prety impressive RDEs i think can deliver like 25% increased efficiency over traditional combustion

  • @bcrisp56
    @bcrisp56 5 місяців тому

    Merry Christmas Alex! Love your videos!

  • @turkeybird7679
    @turkeybird7679 5 місяців тому

    EXCELLENT FREAKING PRESENTATION....I sat there spell bound. Well done young man!

  • @MadMichigander1313
    @MadMichigander1313 5 місяців тому +8

    One other problem is the turbines would be destroyed by the shockwave from detonation combustion. Therefore, you need to use Expansion-Cycle turbomachinery using the 'cracking' into etheline and ethane, and expansion of the fuel vapor as a working fluid driving the turbines before the gas is injected into the dual-mode rotating-detonation combustor. And this could also incorporate a rocket mode..

    • @dynestis2875
      @dynestis2875 5 місяців тому +1

      So what you're saying is we should nuke Africa?

    • @imperialguardsman135
      @imperialguardsman135 5 місяців тому

      Or just use a turbine bypass duct lol

    • @MadMichigander1313
      @MadMichigander1313 5 місяців тому

      @@imperialguardsman135, care to explain what that is? You need something to drive the fuel pump and or compressors before you get to ram/scramjet speeds.

    • @MadMichigander1313
      @MadMichigander1313 5 місяців тому +1

      The idea is similar to the REX-series engines created by Garrett AirResearch/Pratt&Whitney for Project Suntan (originally planned successor for U-2) hydrogen powered aircraft, and led to the development of the RL-10 Cryogenic Rocket Engine.

    • @jeffkavanaugh6988
      @jeffkavanaugh6988 Місяць тому

      @@imperialguardsman135: I see you're not familiar with the "Keep It Simple Stupid" principle, the engine will be running constantly in detonation mode since that is the nature of the combustor

  • @bluemarlin8138
    @bluemarlin8138 5 місяців тому +18

    U.S.: Develops Waverider experimental hypersonic scramjet missile.
    Russia: Pretends to have hypersonic missiles.
    U.S.: “Hey Ivan, remember when you pretended that the Mig-25 was so good, and I made the best fighter ever just in case you weren’t lying, but your plane turned out to be terrible? Well, I did it again, but with missiles.”
    Russia: “Fuckski.”

    • @aznguy771
      @aznguy771 5 місяців тому

      The U.S. should be able to say the same above for China. China's mostly stolen reversed engineered inferior technology and tactics will be crushed by the superior tech and tactics of U.S. and its Allies!

    • @Irowned
      @Irowned 5 місяців тому

      Americans are only stealing things and then they develop it further and then claim that they invented it... They don't invent things. For example, the rocket engine was invented by a german. And the pulse jet was also invented by some european guy et cetera.

  • @TyinAlaska
    @TyinAlaska 5 місяців тому

    This has been a hobby study of mine for quite a few years. This is a nice video. Thanks.

  • @kalebbruwer
    @kalebbruwer 5 місяців тому +2

    Some estimates put the theoretical upper limit of scramjets at around mach 24, which happens to be pretty close to orbital velocity. I don't know enough to say if that will actually be possible, but it's definitely worth keeping an eye on

    • @georgesikimeti2184
      @georgesikimeti2184 5 місяців тому

      Would any materials survived at this speed considering the heat it generates,it didn’t mention here but certainly a vital part in the puzzle.

    • @kalebbruwer
      @kalebbruwer 5 місяців тому +1

      @@georgesikimeti2184 You are right, and it would make rocket engineering significantly more complicated than it is today. But the rocket equation is exponential so any increase in efficiency is a big deal. I'm just wondering if it will be feasible several decades from now

  • @MikeOxlong-
    @MikeOxlong- 5 місяців тому +3

    I’ve never understood the Sandbox News moniker when all the shows are given the name AirPower (unless someday in the far distant future there’s a scope to introduce other shows or media), regardless Alex makes some of the best content out there!!

    • @weilam03
      @weilam03 5 місяців тому +5

      the sandbox refers to the deserts weve been fighting in since 9/11. you still need airpower in the sandbox

  • @warrenwattles8397
    @warrenwattles8397 5 місяців тому +7

    This cites weight as the big hurdle to overcome. But just as important is heat management. The SR-71 struggled with heat in the Mach 3 regime, and those engines were widely spaced. The heat management of a RDE is orders of magnitude harder than anything humans have dealt with before. Throw in the heat of all these various engines all in one system, and your cooling system is going to as big and heavy as the entire engine.

    • @pauljs75
      @pauljs75 5 місяців тому +1

      The fuel routing will be part of the heat management, doesn't seem like there's much of another way.

  • @scottsmith4315
    @scottsmith4315 5 місяців тому

    Great report Alex. As always. Thank you

  • @themoonman-4
    @themoonman-4 5 місяців тому

    Bravo Alex Thank You! Get better soon!

  • @radical137
    @radical137 5 місяців тому +7

    It seems that they might be able use these new engines in legacy platforms as well someday. I wonder how fast you can drive an F-15EX before it melts and bends? Maybe Mach 3.5?

    • @radical137
      @radical137 5 місяців тому +1

      Maybe a Mach 3.2 super hornet with 50 percent more range would be huge for USN.

    • @TymaDem
      @TymaDem 5 місяців тому +3

      Doesn’t make sense to put it into F15. I don’t think F15 airframe is designed to withstand Mach 3.5+ let alone the materials used in it. Also you have to make so many modifications to install inside the F15, that at some point it stops being an F15

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 5 місяців тому +1

      I would not want to be the test pilot:-)

    • @heathwirt8919
      @heathwirt8919 5 місяців тому +2

      The increased efficiency and range would be a welcome improvement but it's doubtful these existing airframes could handle hypersonic speeds and surface temperatures.

    • @CaptRR
      @CaptRR 5 місяців тому +1

      @@TymaDem True, I don't think they would push too much extra speed, but what it could do is make the F15 supercruise-like capable, which also extends its range dramatically. This would have huge ramifications in theaters like the pacific.

  • @mattfromwiisports4910
    @mattfromwiisports4910 5 місяців тому +3

    Sweet jeez. Imagine flying Mach 5+ with a scramjet/detonation engine and just OBLITERATING some poor bird.

    • @DominikPinkas
      @DominikPinkas 5 місяців тому +3

      I believe there are very few birds at 60 000 feet…

    • @TymaDem
      @TymaDem 5 місяців тому +3

      I mean the fact that some birds could fly at 100k+ feet altitude is scarier that potential midair

  • @bobbyhill3340
    @bobbyhill3340 5 місяців тому

    Truly fascinating video, really well done!

  • @jakeroper1096
    @jakeroper1096 5 місяців тому +3

    FOURTEENTH!!4

  • @jona.scholt4362
    @jona.scholt4362 5 місяців тому +6

    I heard they're also working on a Twin Ion Engine Fighter and experimenting with Kyber Crystals.

  • @benthere2667
    @benthere2667 4 місяці тому

    I feel edumacated. Thanks for the hard work and generosity to share this with us. Hawaii

  • @howardking3601
    @howardking3601 2 місяці тому

    Fine job, Mr. Hollings! Thanks.

  • @jtully79
    @jtully79 5 місяців тому

    You covered a rather complex, little known about subject extremely well. Great vid

  • @michaelharrington223
    @michaelharrington223 5 місяців тому

    Alex thanks for the update on the new GE engine. Get to feeling better 💪

  • @markhuebner7580
    @markhuebner7580 5 місяців тому

    Go Alex, go! Awesome presentation on a very interesting and world-shattering reality that is fast approaching!

  • @user-uq1ny8me3v
    @user-uq1ny8me3v 5 місяців тому

    Magnificient analysis...Thank you so much

  • @natey9156
    @natey9156 20 днів тому

    This Channel never disappoints! ty

  • @AerialWaviator
    @AerialWaviator 5 місяців тому +2

    Excellent coverage of RDE's. If there's a need to go even faster, or to space, check out the work of Stoke Space and their use of RDE's to make reusable spacecraft. No need to add a 5th stage to the multi-stage engine, just need an extra tank to cary some lox.

  • @KevinDC5
    @KevinDC5 5 місяців тому +2

    As a lifelong AvGeek it’s great to see Aurora finally coming to life!

  • @JoesfreepizzaNov28Pizza-uh6ij
    @JoesfreepizzaNov28Pizza-uh6ij 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for the ground news tip I’ll actually use this. May quite actually be the first UA-cam suggestion/sponsorship that I’ve ever followed up on. Thanks for shilling the right way;) I mean that as a compliment

  • @davidn.331
    @davidn.331 5 місяців тому +2

    Over my years as an inspector at P&WA. My highlights are having inspected random parts for the J58 back in the late 70's. The F119 prototype then into production and the last F119. The F135 prototype then into production.
    Sad part is P&W isn't working on stuff like this. They made the J58 back in the early 60's and haven't made anything that fast in 60+ years.

  • @marksanney2088
    @marksanney2088 5 місяців тому

    Greatly enjoyed this presentation, my friend. Been looking forward to this for some time.
    Pray that you and your family enjoyed a safe, blessed and merry Christmas, followed by a prosperous new year. 👍🏻🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸👍🏻

  • @raymondg7565
    @raymondg7565 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for the clear report.

  • @brianobrian6637
    @brianobrian6637 5 місяців тому

    Alex; Your very good at what you do! I really, really enjoyed The Son of Blackbird video & this too was superbly done! You are an asset to aviation & greatly appreciated!

  • @martinharris5017
    @martinharris5017 5 місяців тому +1

    It's really interesting to me to see all this detail, as a friend and I were discussing all this back in the 90s when Area 51 was first being publicly discussed and what they were developing out there. It was all theory and written text at the time but we understood the idea of a hybrid engine that reconfigured or "morphed" from a conventional turbofan to a scramjet and ultimately to ramjet, allowing for a craft like the mythical "Aurora" that all the UFO buffs talked about.
    Thanks for the vid.

  • @Mr.Snowboard
    @Mr.Snowboard 5 місяців тому

    Great episode Alex, thanks!

  • @julianwinn4502
    @julianwinn4502 5 місяців тому

    Wow...clever stuff. I built a pulsejet with my 14yr old son last summer. We had a lot of fun and thankfully didn't burn down the garage!

  • @Cyrribrae
    @Cyrribrae 5 місяців тому +2

    I was struggling to find something to listen to while in the store. 3 minutes ago. Perfect timing!!
    Edit: damn alright. This has come sooner than I expected. Excited to see how this shows up

    • @j.f.fisher5318
      @j.f.fisher5318 5 місяців тому +1

      same, I thought they'd be _next_ next gen systems, not for the coming gen.

  • @nomoss9600
    @nomoss9600 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for this report

  • @andyanderson9165
    @andyanderson9165 5 місяців тому

    Nice job! Very well explained...

  • @alexiordache760
    @alexiordache760 5 місяців тому

    This was GREAT, subscribed.

  • @johnhiggs325
    @johnhiggs325 5 місяців тому

    We know for a fact that pulse jet tech was being flight tested with existing air frames just a few years ago. The photo and video evidence is all over the old interweb. The F-15EX and F-16 Super Falcon have been test beds for several different combined jet propulsion systems, but also innovative flight surface controls (cavitation breaking and semi ridged defamation surfaces). Old SR-71 frames have been brought out of the mothball fleet in recent years for high altitude, high speed proof of concept demonstrations, too. I’ve even heard rumblings concerning B1b Lancer being considered for retrofit and used for its original design as a high altitude, high speed recon/strike role.
    I’m truly amazed that these 30 to 50 year old systems have so much left to offer. The Lancer was originally designed with little more than slide rulers!

  • @outsider7658
    @outsider7658 5 місяців тому +1

    Mr "Sandboxx", as an engineer, and VERY interested, in anything "rotating or moving", I am very impressed, as always, concerning Your news.
    This, is very big news, I hope, US gives it a chance.
    Keep those news coming, I will follow. Great work.
    from a Finn in Diaspora

  • @Trojan0304
    @Trojan0304 5 місяців тому

    Offers speed & range just what is needed in the Pacific. Nice presentation Alex

  • @SpamSucker
    @SpamSucker 5 місяців тому

    Outstanding explanations Alex! Very clear. Did you discover in your research the minimum speed at which rotating detonation is expected to function?

  • @Edwardianschool
    @Edwardianschool 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for those awesome F-22 shots at the end.

  • @russellpaape5231
    @russellpaape5231 5 місяців тому

    Outstanding lecture 😊

  • @JoseOrtiz-zb7gq
    @JoseOrtiz-zb7gq 5 місяців тому +1

    Awesome. You had me at HELLO.

  • @DUKE_of_RAMBLE
    @DUKE_of_RAMBLE 5 місяців тому +1

    Huh... I never would've thought you even COULD combine rotating donation, with air breathing engines!
    Of course, I've only seen them talked about as a rocket engine, which fuel and oxidizer are fed at their own rates, unrelated to the outside airspeed!
    _edit:_ 🤔 _Hmm... Using it as an _*_intermediary_*_ propulsion between turbo-fan/jet and SCRAM, might work and is quite smart!!_ 👏😮
    Yay Strep Throat! 😢
    But on that note... I hope you and yours have a happy and safe holidays! ♥️

  • @MichaelRoy-hc3lz
    @MichaelRoy-hc3lz 2 місяці тому

    This is great stuff. I need to watch this a couple more times but that GE engine is super interesting!

  • @chriswandatownley1
    @chriswandatownley1 5 місяців тому

    Merry Christmas Mate!

  • @johngee9018
    @johngee9018 5 місяців тому +1

    It amazes me that this kind of strategically important tech is being discussed publicly like this. Especially as US relations with strategic adversaries continue to deteriorate daily.

    • @curtishakes3577
      @curtishakes3577 2 місяці тому +1

      They have something better in those skunk Works that they haven’t shown us. Like reverse, engineered, alien spacecraft.

  • @kyaintit
    @kyaintit 5 місяців тому

    Great content and great info!

  • @Dadnatron
    @Dadnatron 5 місяців тому

    Excellent overview

  • @a.teague4837
    @a.teague4837 5 місяців тому

    Thank you sir! Wonderful report. You must work on these videos day & night with the data collection, the script writing, filming, editing & production. I'm glad you do it though!

  • @masakela123
    @masakela123 5 місяців тому

    I'm excited to learn about this advancement in engine technology. The future is literally here today!!!

  • @mogilews
    @mogilews 3 місяці тому +1

    The lineage between pulsejets and PDEs - as drawn in this video - is a dangerous illusion. They have different development histories, different working principles, different physics. Scramjets also don't generate usable thrust at Mach 3 - more like Mach 4 - thanks to the needs of the compression geometry. The challenge of RDE is going to be clean detonation fronts in airflow regimes that have every kind of turbulence imaginable - it's worth noting the longest RDE runs have been on LOX.

  • @Scott-hf2qz
    @Scott-hf2qz 5 місяців тому

    This is going to be really interesting in the near future.

  • @brealistic3542
    @brealistic3542 5 місяців тому

    The incredible tech it takes to get a continuous detonation engine to run, not even talking about the original idea, is out of this world. It's truly amazing.

  • @edwardbukstel4777
    @edwardbukstel4777 5 місяців тому

    You had to win the Peter Piper Pickle contest as a kid. Excellent work

  • @therdubya
    @therdubya 5 місяців тому

    As always, well done.

  • @geeussery8849
    @geeussery8849 5 місяців тому

    Great video, thanks.

  • @kevinavillain4616
    @kevinavillain4616 3 місяці тому

    You guys do realize that forms of this engine has been around for about 20 years and has been seen flying in the air as secret aircraft. The rotating combustion engine is so efficient they found they have to start and stop it and not run it continuously. That's why the contrail it leaves has puffs from coasting and restart.
    Strangely enough I have run across quite a few of these concepts working with two stroke engines building expansion chavmbers for the exhausts.