Hello Patrick, indeed. Once I hear the same exact words from more than one guy... I lose interest as I know they are feeding me the copy provided by corporate, and not only their opinions. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding I get it, I feel the same way. I suck at reviews, but I’m not doing one if I’m told what to say. I have a video talking about the Carpuride coming soon, but it’s my opinion on something I paid for. No compensation whatsoever.
Yep, that sums it up perfectly, and it’s a shame that there seems to be fewer and fewer channels on UA-cam for almost all genres that aren’t influenced by some type of graft, whether monetary or access related. I am a photographer and the photography business is even worse.
Hello, the way of business I suppose. I have been spending more time looking for small channels with 5K and 10K mile reviews and enjoying it! Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
Hello William, I am a fan on liking things, and I have yet to ride I bike I did not enjoy, but I am certain not everything is "great" on every bike! Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
This is bigdave. Im on my work account. But I agree with you completely. I have seen so many channels I started out really enjoying slowly creep into infomercials etc. A couple who were admitted beginners 1 to 2 yrs ago suddenly playing the expert and pimping products. One has changed bikes 3 times in 13 mos. And of course each new one is a different brand and is way better supposedly than the one before. I caught one in several untruths. Saying the latest bike had more ground clearance etc etc than the prior when this was nowhere near correct.
Rant over 😂 Very valid points Frank. I've seen the same on the tech side from channels with millions of subscribers. Mr. Marcus for example. Way less critical conversation and more why you need to buy it. I think part of it could also be that they used to review and be critical of everything they can get their hands on but now… That they have access to anything they want... they might only choose the things that they know will be good. And… Not necessarily review those things that have not so good qualities. I do know that some of those channels used to refuse free goods so they could say that they purchased them and could objectively say anything they wanted to about them. I do believe that has changed recently, and some of those creators are getting free goods and therefore I do think that they might feel a little loyalty to the company when it comes to the not so desirable parts of those products, I do see that there is a fine line.
Hello Kyle, it does seem recent. I wonder if sagging sales has led to more marketing, more money hitting channels. You're a good example of what I like to see. Yes, you have sponsored products. However, you show me how you use the products. You show me a spent tire, and how long it took, and the terrain. You show me a child can use the Rabaconda and change a tire. (I hope the California Dept, of Labor does not watch your channel!), and you have told me straight up in videos "This product will not work well for this type of rider." I appreciate that kind of content. - Frank
Hello Matt, I need to wait for more guys who buy a bike and take it to the top of of a pass to review it. Or a frozen campsite after 10K miles... - Frank
Thanks for sharing Frank! I agree and I have noticed a change in some channels recently. It seems the bigger the channel gets, the more you see this trend. Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 anyone . . .
Hello Two Wheels, It does seem recent. I wonder if sagging sales has led to more marketing, more money hitting channels... Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
Yep, it happens to most big UA-cam channels at some point... and that's when they lose a LOT of viewers. And it's not just motorcycle content. Can't piss off the sponsors! This is why I don't trust any one reviewer wholeheartedly - I watch multiple reviews of something before I buy it. If I do a review of something, I'll be as fair as possible, without downplaying negatives.
Hello RR, I agree with your idea of more than one review. That said, suspiciously, many are using the same words to say the same thing... Talking points if you will. I am just looking for guys who have owned a bike for reviews now! - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding Good call - the people that OWN something aren't going to go off the press release bullet points - and bonus points if they bought it themselves. That said, if multiple YT channels "review" a product and go over the same stuff - chances are it's a sponsored video [whether they marked it as Sponsored or not] and they're being told what to say.
It's a bit like "never meet your heroes" (don't look too closely): All channels eventually settle into a money focussed beat (subscribe\ like). We're all grown-ups, we know how this works, so always have that salt shaker at the ready. Personally I take any channel as more of guideline than a rule. Yes, I've heard the exact same lines on different reviews, so I know the OEM has paid them to say the lines, because they are usually so unnatural that no one except Marketing would say those words. And yup, at that point trust is lost in the reviewer and the product. My pet peeve is claiming a new bike is absolutely great, then 6-12 months later they tear it a new one.
Hello Cpuuk, I like that line " take any channel as more of a guide than a rule." It's certainly the same line that bugs me... really you are reading copy provided by the manufacturer? I came here for your experience and opinion, not company lines! Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
How dare you think about honesty. I give you credit, when your having problems with your bike your let us know. Everyone wants the manufacturers to like the reviews so the get free stuff. The truth always comes out and they just ignore the problems. That is an evil path that will get them in the end.
It’s more that you once honest content creators are now less so for financial/business reasons. It’s something to be mindful of when evaluating who you view/listen to in this or any other sphere.
Well said. I am just remembering... these are businessmen. Helping me is not all they need to do to stay in business, and sometimes, it's not in their best interests to help me... - Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
Well, I think you are spot on. When UA-cam becomes a “business”, the content is compromised. Honestly is the best policy for sure. Great video Frank!
Hello William, Right? You should see this Beta shill in NC! He was much more authentic as a Suzuki fan! - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding Don't understand. Who is the Beta shill? Let me know so I can go ride with him!
Once you have trust issues, they never go away!!!
Hello Patrick, indeed. Once I hear the same exact words from more than one guy... I lose interest as I know they are feeding me the copy provided by corporate, and not only their opinions. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding I get it, I feel the same way. I suck at reviews, but I’m not doing one if I’m told what to say. I have a video talking about the Carpuride coming soon, but it’s my opinion on something I paid for. No compensation whatsoever.
Yep, that sums it up perfectly, and it’s a shame that there seems to be fewer and fewer channels on UA-cam for almost all genres that aren’t influenced by some type of graft, whether monetary or access related. I am a photographer and the photography business is even worse.
Hello, the way of business I suppose. I have been spending more time looking for small channels with 5K and 10K mile reviews and enjoying it! Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
For the record, the air filter is under the tank on the V-Strom 1050. That sucks! No sugar coating on that. Other than that, it’s a great bike!
Hello William, thats a BIG tank to move for the filter too! I did a Versys once, and once was enough! - Frank
Good points. Things have become a lot more vanilla in the critique departments...
Hello William, I am a fan on liking things, and I have yet to ride I bike I did not enjoy, but I am certain not everything is "great" on every bike! Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
This is bigdave. Im on my work account. But I agree with you completely. I have seen so many channels I started out really enjoying slowly creep into infomercials etc. A couple who were admitted beginners 1 to 2 yrs ago suddenly playing the expert and pimping products. One has changed bikes 3 times in 13 mos. And of course each new one is a different brand and is way better supposedly than the one before. I caught one in several untruths. Saying the latest bike had more ground clearance etc etc than the prior when this was nowhere near correct.
Hello Dave, thank you for your view. Your example is so clear, I think we feel the same way about the same channel! - Frank
Rant over 😂 Very valid points Frank. I've seen the same on the tech side from channels with millions of subscribers. Mr. Marcus for example. Way less critical conversation and more why you need to buy it. I think part of it could also be that they used to review and be critical of everything they can get their hands on but now… That they have access to anything they want... they might only choose the things that they know will be good. And… Not necessarily review those things that have not so good qualities. I do know that some of those channels used to refuse free goods so they could say that they purchased them and could objectively say anything they wanted to about them. I do believe that has changed recently, and some of those creators are getting free goods and therefore I do think that they might feel a little loyalty to the company when it comes to the not so desirable parts of those products, I do see that there is a fine line.
Hello Kyle, it does seem recent. I wonder if sagging sales has led to more marketing, more money hitting channels. You're a good example of what I like to see. Yes, you have sponsored products. However, you show me how you use the products. You show me a spent tire, and how long it took, and the terrain. You show me a child can use the Rabaconda and change a tire. (I hope the California Dept, of Labor does not watch your channel!), and you have told me straight up in videos "This product will not work well for this type of rider." I appreciate that kind of content. - Frank
Amen. The 1000 mile reviews are really dumb. Three days on a bike says nothing about it.
Hello Matt, I need to wait for more guys who buy a bike and take it to the top of of a pass to review it. Or a frozen campsite after 10K miles... - Frank
Thanks for sharing Frank! I agree and I have noticed a change in some channels recently. It seems the bigger the channel gets, the more you see this trend. Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 anyone . . .
Hello Two Wheels, It does seem recent. I wonder if sagging sales has led to more marketing, more money hitting channels... Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
I don't watch big channels anymore. Far too compromised.
I am mostly unsubbed. I came here for an opinion, not a company line. Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
Yep, it happens to most big UA-cam channels at some point... and that's when they lose a LOT of viewers. And it's not just motorcycle content. Can't piss off the sponsors!
This is why I don't trust any one reviewer wholeheartedly - I watch multiple reviews of something before I buy it. If I do a review of something, I'll be as fair as possible, without downplaying negatives.
Hello RR, I agree with your idea of more than one review. That said, suspiciously, many are using the same words to say the same thing... Talking points if you will.
I am just looking for guys who have owned a bike for reviews now! - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding Good call - the people that OWN something aren't going to go off the press release bullet points - and bonus points if they bought it themselves.
That said, if multiple YT channels "review" a product and go over the same stuff - chances are it's a sponsored video [whether they marked it as Sponsored or not] and they're being told what to say.
It's a bit like "never meet your heroes" (don't look too closely): All channels eventually settle into a money focussed beat (subscribe\ like). We're all grown-ups, we know how this works, so always have that salt shaker at the ready. Personally I take any channel as more of guideline than a rule.
Yes, I've heard the exact same lines on different reviews, so I know the OEM has paid them to say the lines, because they are usually so unnatural that no one except Marketing would say those words. And yup, at that point trust is lost in the reviewer and the product.
My pet peeve is claiming a new bike is absolutely great, then 6-12 months later they tear it a new one.
Hello Cpuuk, I like that line " take any channel as more of a guide than a rule."
It's certainly the same line that bugs me... really you are reading copy provided by the manufacturer? I came here for your experience and opinion, not company lines! Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
This why Iam very selective of the reviews I take seriously and often dislike some videos.
Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
Unsubscribe from the bs
I have, YT keeps pushing! 😂 Great name by the way! Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
How dare you think about honesty.
I give you credit, when your having problems with your bike your let us know. Everyone wants the manufacturers to like the reviews so the get free stuff.
The truth always comes out and they just ignore the problems.
That is an evil path that will get them in the end.
Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
So you mean that the motorcycle industry is just part of the real world? I'm disillusioned.
😂
It’s more that you once honest content creators are now less so for financial/business reasons. It’s something to be mindful of when evaluating who you view/listen to in this or any other sphere.
I am so sad Rob! These guys used to be helpful and honest! Now we have guys who used to ride a DR650 telling me its Beta or nothing! Bastards! - Frank
Timfest 2025, we miss you Pete! - Frank
Well said. I am just remembering... these are businessmen. Helping me is not all they need to do to stay in business, and sometimes, it's not in their best interests to help me... - Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
You have a REAL BAD habit of drifting outside the arc in curves.
Hello, totally fair, especially when recording. I mention it often. Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank