How Long Should Your Story Be? 10 Tips to Help You

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  • @NapperNeru
    @NapperNeru 4 роки тому +69

    I think the tips can be summatized this way:
    1. Get to the core of the story to not waste time. (You can add fillers later.)*
    2. Get to the point, don't ramble on unimportant details.
    3. Draw out your core timeline
    4. Everything should be there for a reason. Don't put unnecessary things.
    5. Don't work things out along the way, plan everything from head to toe and polish it accordingly. That way the story as a whole would make sense. A story has versions, improve them to the best they can be. Sometimes making the end then the beginning makes a story much better.
    6. Simple and short story, smaller cast of characters. Big and complex story, long and "epic" story. But don't be pressured to write a long story.
    7. You don't have to show everything. Not every little detail is important. Hint at it, but don't show it. If it's unimportant, just drop a line or two on it, or make it an Easter egg. If it's somewhat relevant, make it a montage.
    8. Character driven stories are hard to end compared to story driven ones. To know when to break down the story into episodes, (I personally recommend using cliffhangers to keep the readers interested. However, don't overuse it, only use it when necessary. It can be used not only to keep the readers at the edge of their seats but also to make them wonder what would happen next.)
    9. If you have too many works in progress, maybe you're being too ambitious. Try to make your job easier for yourself. Short and special may be the way to go.
    10. Follow your instincts, that gut feeling is your guide. Trust yourself to make the right decisions.
    *Fillers can be used to develop the world or show characteristics of the more important characters, but they must make sense. Ask yourself how this info can help in the main plotline. If your fillers are not beneficial to the main plot at all, it would likely bore the reader.

    • @akaneakane7893
      @akaneakane7893 4 роки тому +6

      *claps*

    • @sutil5078
      @sutil5078 4 роки тому +4

      thanks for the summary, if you think about it, it all comes down to be brief WITHOUT sacrificing the essential. Most of these points comes to that. Dossification is key.

  • @duchi882
    @duchi882 4 роки тому +77

    How Long a Story Should Be:
    1. *In the first Age, in the First Battle..*

    • @davidxlte
      @davidxlte 4 роки тому +1

      Man angry because rabbit died.

  • @strickerarts
    @strickerarts 4 роки тому +43

    Oh yeah yesterday, I was at Barnes and Noble and saw some of your books, my brother was like who's Mark Crilley? I'm like, oh he's done quite a few projects, like drawing books and Brody's Ghost, I even told him about Bone, because I believe you illustrated the Valley for Jeff Smith. My brother loves the bones book's. He thought that was pretty cool. Thought I would share. 😊

  • @FloatingSunfish
    @FloatingSunfish 4 роки тому +17

    I always love watching these types of videos.
    You're like the Bob Ross of writing and drawing. 👌🏻

  • @dungeon-wn4gw
    @dungeon-wn4gw 4 роки тому +17

    In my experience writing, it's better to write too much and then go back later to tighten it up than to write too little and then go back to add more.

    • @monap8552
      @monap8552 4 роки тому

      I'm working on an animated project of my own, I've done what you mentioned. But since I'm still working on the characters and all, I haven't got the chance to go back and rid of a few loose ends in the story plot.
      I'm not a writer, but I know story/character plot is important for everything.

  • @sociallyineptspider-man2366
    @sociallyineptspider-man2366 4 роки тому +8

    I've been working on a three volume graphic novel for about four years now and your videos have helped me constantly along the way, thank you for always being there every Friday

  • @BlackHei711
    @BlackHei711 4 роки тому +9

    I don't draw comics anymore, I did finish one. I've now moved on to game making, and a lot of this applies to that too. You can find story telling in just about all forms entertainment.

    • @ReubMann
      @ReubMann 3 роки тому

      interesting. I moving inverse to you lol. going from game making to comics

  • @thatguy779
    @thatguy779 4 роки тому +24

    Hey Mark, ever since I became a HUGE Jojos nerd, I’ve become obsessed with how a writer/illustrator can convey information about a character without using exposition. That being said, I would love to know both your thoughts on this type of thing and what your stand would be✨

    • @fishussugon3215
      @fishussugon3215 4 роки тому +1

      nice pun

    • @adrithmanvik1853
      @adrithmanvik1853 4 роки тому +2

      Really? I've read all JoJo parts (and watched all 5 parts) and I feel like there's lots of exposition especially when the characters are talking about their abilities

    • @thatguy779
      @thatguy779 4 роки тому +2

      Anirudh Saravanakumar yes, but there’s a lot of fun characterization in the small details and designs which is absolutely fascinating. Much of the exposition about abilities over time and especially in part five happens once a character has deduced something using information that they and the viewer are presented with. Aside from that, much of the remaining exposition is mainly stuff that teaches the reader/viewer about the world and I’m a sucker for learning about foreign cultures✨

    • @adrithmanvik1853
      @adrithmanvik1853 4 роки тому +1

      @@thatguy779 yeah true (btw I wasn't criticising JoJo because I too like it as well)

    • @thatguy779
      @thatguy779 4 роки тому

      Anirudh Saravanakumar no worries, I hope I didn’t come off as hostile in any way

  • @strickerarts
    @strickerarts 4 роки тому +5

    Love the plot out the story advice as well, that's also what I like to do. It makes it easier to throw readers in a loop and still have it be comprehended. It's definitely for organization mostly but it's a good method.

  • @ashnikfield4224
    @ashnikfield4224 4 роки тому +6

    You posted this at the PERFECT time! I was planning out a graphic novel and I was contemplating how long it should be. I have my characters drawn and such and I really wanted to push this forward without dropping the concept like I've done in the past with many other comics I've tried.

  • @Cavalier753
    @Cavalier753 4 роки тому +15

    Last time I was this early-
    No, I've never been this early. But Mark posts, I fly.

  • @cosmicroar1277
    @cosmicroar1277 4 роки тому +140

    When you're that guy who spends hundreds of hours trying to perfect the first chapter.

    • @andrewgarfield9898
      @andrewgarfield9898 4 роки тому +18

      Emirou『えみろう』 just hours?? One pages takes me days and it still doesn’t come out the way I want it too😭

    • @vermister341
      @vermister341 4 роки тому +2

      Bruh, fucking same!

    • @Cartoonkal
      @Cartoonkal 4 роки тому +1

      Yep. That's me.

    • @Millicomics
      @Millicomics 4 роки тому

      I feel you !

    • @Lily-mw2ki
      @Lily-mw2ki 4 роки тому +1

      i think im kinda that guy. i tend to write the first 10 pages then spend hours turning them inrto like 30 pages

  • @waustii7470
    @waustii7470 4 роки тому +3

    Hey Mark! I just wanted to thank you so much for the continued uploads to this channel. I’ve been watching for years, and a lot of my progress as an artist and storyteller is a direct result of your advice and guidance. Thanks to your help, I’ll be publishing my first official comic this coming May. Thank you again for making such invaluable content! 💖💖💖

  • @user-uf9xk1uv2z
    @user-uf9xk1uv2z 4 роки тому +51

    How long? *Laughs in Naruto*

  • @wolflahti412
    @wolflahti412 4 роки тому +16

    "When you write, try to leave out all the parts that readers skip."
    ―Elmore Leonard

  • @jejehdh
    @jejehdh 4 роки тому +2

    Can’t wait to see your comic

  • @laurawilliams8952
    @laurawilliams8952 2 роки тому +1

    Great advice! I am working on my first short story/comic 🥳 will definitely try to use these tips!

  • @annmccarthy1354
    @annmccarthy1354 4 роки тому

    Looking forward to your new book!!! And for years I have meant to comment on how much I have enjoyed your musical intros..such a talented fellow!!!

  • @monap8552
    @monap8552 4 роки тому +1

    these storytelling vids of yours are awesome. Whenever I get in doubt, I come back to watch a couple more vids to have a better understanding.

  • @sflematti
    @sflematti 4 роки тому

    You've continued to be such an inspiration with your traditional artwork. I don't have anything against digital art but there is such a genuine charm watching someone skilled enough to put thought to paper.

  • @emeraldqueen1994
    @emeraldqueen1994 4 роки тому +3

    I have a werewolf character named Elena who is always making puns like that... I thank you for a much needed smile to end a relaxing day with! Love your videos and I look forward to seeing your next one!

  • @rafaelinio1
    @rafaelinio1 4 роки тому +1

    man the youtube algorithm hasn't been kind to you! I remember your videos used to pop up in my feed years ago, but not anymore!

  • @diditsuto9193
    @diditsuto9193 4 роки тому

    Mark, watching your videos is like watching an excelent show. Only wanting for the next season more & more 👏😁👍

  • @silentfox1738
    @silentfox1738 3 роки тому +1

    i have the book that he is illustrating and i think it was interesting, i will probably continuously come back to it and read it

  • @normas_sketchbook
    @normas_sketchbook 4 роки тому

    Yes! Well summarized! If I not procrastinate watching your wisdom videos, I work this way, writing my books. The plot driven part - that is new to me. My books are always character-driven.

  • @cicero2548
    @cicero2548 4 роки тому

    I forgot how much I genuinely enjoy watching your videos Mr.Crilley.

  • @AwkwardPain
    @AwkwardPain 4 роки тому

    One thing that I would add after listening to this - #9 - Another thing you can do if you already have been working on an epic story is to break out a specific event that has you excited. Create a short story about this specifically to both get something 'done' and to build confidence going forward. (Disclaimer: This is something I have only started adopting fairly recently)

  • @poisontribal9909
    @poisontribal9909 4 роки тому +6

    Awesome! Could you do a video on drawing in small details? Like when you’re making a graphic novel and you have to draw something super small?

  • @ToriKo_
    @ToriKo_ 4 роки тому

    Wow getting this in my recommended was a throwback, so many memories of watching you when I was young

  • @jak100abc
    @jak100abc 4 роки тому +2

    Not gonna lie. When You corrected yourself in saying "The BELOVED white guache" I about passed out. That was too funny. Keep up the great work. 😂😊

  • @ghostofcanidstheinnovator4275
    @ghostofcanidstheinnovator4275 4 роки тому

    Thanks Mark Crilley

  • @sosiem.s.80
    @sosiem.s.80 4 роки тому

    Mark crilley sensei !!! 😄I like listening to your explanation and it really helps in my writing aspirations and your own thoughts; sense of humor, passion in your work inspires me...

  • @DARKGORZ
    @DARKGORZ 4 роки тому

    It took me two days, but I have compiled every video in this series into a set of notes!

  • @jonathanfaber3291
    @jonathanfaber3291 4 роки тому +1

    So basically it boils down to making choices and testing them. Like you could have the bank robber wake up, have breakfast (show overdue bills on table maybe?), get dressed, go to the bank all that malarkey and then suddenly BANG POV character is a bank robber

  • @mystryninja1175
    @mystryninja1175 4 роки тому

    I'm so glad that after all this time, i come back to find your channel still posting!!!! It's been like 8yrs since an i really been wanting to draw an learn again. i'm totally gonna check out much of the content you've posted

  • @goldenbuffalo1987
    @goldenbuffalo1987 4 роки тому

    I congratulate Nowruz on all Iranians and Persian speakers around the world.
    Nowruz begins with the start of spring.
    Which is a sign of the flourishing of the body, soul and humanity in the existence of dignified human beings.

  • @qwekunash2
    @qwekunash2 4 роки тому +3

    Really inspiring MarkCrilley👍❤. You inspired me to start my own channel. Draw with Qweku Nash. U are the man👍👊🏼😎

  • @aswanthsbabu9444
    @aswanthsbabu9444 3 роки тому

    Hi sir,
    Your videos are too helpful to build up my own comic books..
    Thank you for the tips..
    Thank you for all...❤️

  • @jumpiestudios5265
    @jumpiestudios5265 4 роки тому

    About number 5, I'm currently writing a webcomic and I had an idea of where to start the story but then later realized that I actually had to pull back and add a lot of scenes before that to get the most out of the story.

  • @MarluART
    @MarluART 3 роки тому

    I got a small degree for illustration and gave up on it to start working a decent general labor job. I've been wanting to start it up again so looks like I have some Mark Crilley backlog to catch up on :)

  • @glasperle77
    @glasperle77 4 роки тому

    I think it's a huge difference if you write or draw a comic due to its lengh. Problem is moreoften that in books you can put a lot of information plot wise into one sentence while in a single panel it's hard to cut the whole text shot to one or two bubbles.
    As comic artist who focuses on fan-comics I mostly have the simple rule: Make a first comic that isn't too long but still gives the necessary plot, keep it canon (like the characters act like they would in the show/game) and just let them focus on one issue they will solve in the end. That way people have something to enjoy, you get them into a new fandom with new characters they probably didn't know before and if you end it , they had fun.
    But THEN I make a second one , sequel like thing where I explicit warn people that this is not canon. Means you can make it as long as you want, you can make the chracters OoC as you like and people who read the first thing will likely also enjoy the second xD hard to explain but until now for like 15 years it always worked fine like this.
    But sadly there are also writers or comic artist who combine both. And over past years I saw they lost a huuuge amount of readers-simply because it's too long. Meaning the issue they face won't be solved at one point and then they start a second story-the issue remains and will be stretched, more and more characters appear and people get confused and at some point forgot what the main issues are-and stop reading.
    I don't somewhat agree with that people have to show people exactly what's meant. I am more the shortstory-telling-person. Maybe because I grew up with good german but also very complicated literature in school where it was common that the information won't be given directly but rather indirectly. Meaning the reader have to THINK to understand the story. The problem is that there are just a few who do and the rest will be confused especially when they are too young. But I think it's important to create something where people have to actually not just plain read it down for humor, but try to think about your story, about the actions of your characters and question themselves "why do they say this and that?" then they -in their head-go back your whole plot and find eventually the explanation there and be like "aahaaa wow smart!"
    I think that's the greatest reward a writer could get xD" But well it's just a subjective opinion of mine after all

  • @FuryofTiamat-Flip
    @FuryofTiamat-Flip 4 роки тому

    18:50. That cut me deep... great video man

  • @lilkittyanime
    @lilkittyanime 4 роки тому

    Every great manga i ever read eventually ended around the 8th or 12 book. Yes One Piece and Bleach went on longer, yet you see people complain more about that then they praise it😂. Thank you for the vid Mark!❤❤

  • @cheyenneoliver5184
    @cheyenneoliver5184 4 роки тому +35

    Whoever wrote rule one, clearly never wrote a long-running manga

    • @jumpiestudios5265
      @jumpiestudios5265 4 роки тому +4

      I don't think that's neccessarily true.
      These stories may be focusing on introducing a vast world and/or set of characters and explore all of them in depths and the overall story may be working towards a certain seeemingly unachievable goal and the incredibly long build-up to that goal (as long as the stories along the way are interesting) can make the moment they reach that goal all the more satisfying.
      It's like in an RPG where you start out very weak but after like 100 hours you'll be so strong you easily defeat five of the enemy type you used to have a hard time with when there was only one.
      And you got there!
      No montage, no quick way, you put in the time and effort and you went the distance.
      Same if you're following these characters on their way.

    • @akaneakane7893
      @akaneakane7893 4 роки тому

      *uNLeSs...*

  • @thelostlegendnoe4502
    @thelostlegendnoe4502 4 роки тому +1

    Wow just what I needed was just working on my comic and wondering how many pages I should make! Thanks Mark you always have the
    good stuff 😊

  • @squidsquad9460
    @squidsquad9460 4 роки тому

    In the next video could you give advice on page layout? Like panel sizing and spacing?

  • @godeatslemons2288
    @godeatslemons2288 4 роки тому

    I really appreciate all of these videos you make,

  • @devonteedwards2093
    @devonteedwards2093 4 роки тому +1

    These are some great tips for stories

  • @SillhouetteSonata
    @SillhouetteSonata 4 роки тому

    Awesome video! I swear you always come out with just the video I need. :)

  • @HTMangaka
    @HTMangaka 4 роки тому +1

    Not quite sure about this, but it looks like you and me are wearing the same shirt. I was holding my sleeve up to the screen to compare during the video and...they seem identical.

  • @gumshoestudiospresents557
    @gumshoestudiospresents557 4 роки тому

    Nanu nanu, everybody! It's Mork Crilley, back with another shazbot video!

  • @LeyahCheney
    @LeyahCheney 4 роки тому

    Thank you! I really needed this ;-;

  • @DecoyAUT
    @DecoyAUT 4 роки тому

    Hey Mark! Loving your videos, you are such a nice inspiring guy. I hope those videos make you as happy as they make us. On a side note, I would appreciate if you'd think about getting a camera which is a bit more high res, the current one is fine, but the videos are a bit blurry looking for 2020 :)

  • @davidheard709
    @davidheard709 4 роки тому

    As of the length in story, it depends on what the writer plans. Likely for the common fact, less is more.

  • @SuselLee
    @SuselLee 4 роки тому

    You have a new graphic novel ( grouppy scream)!!!! I can't wait for the re-sale.

  • @valasafantastic1055
    @valasafantastic1055 4 роки тому

    Useful tips! Thanks.

  • @dustinrichardson1113
    @dustinrichardson1113 4 роки тому +1

    Markcrilley, I love your channel and want to start one of my own, do you got any tips for me?

  • @larrytoons6220
    @larrytoons6220 4 роки тому

    Mark just in time I'm making a story and my friend says that I should make the story go as long as it can go so my characters can be immortalized but I want my first series to have a good ending. So this video was helpful for me with the layout of my story.

  • @Wolf31222360
    @Wolf31222360 4 роки тому

    My problem is I have too many ideas and I'm good at starting them and ending them, but terrible at the middle portion. I currently have five stories open that I'm at various degrees of "working on". Then I get writers block, or have a new idea that I start that the one I was working on gets left behind.

  • @dks9269
    @dks9269 4 роки тому

    Hey Mark, I was hoping to ask some advice on the kind of camera you use for recording your video tutorials? I'm an art instructor in need of putting my course work online for remote instruction (due to concerns over the pandemic), and am going to make some of my own video demos for class. I wasn't sure who to ask, but I've been showing your videos on 2 and 3 point perspective for years, lol, so I thought it might be ok to ask :) Let me know if you have any advice.

  • @daikaijuzilla
    @daikaijuzilla 4 роки тому +1

    May I ask how you can express a montage through writing alone and not visually? That's what I'm having trouble with!

  • @JohnPeterPressonProtopsaltis
    @JohnPeterPressonProtopsaltis 4 роки тому

    @markcrilley would mind addressing longer story. The project I am working on is more novel scale (outlined and scripted out).

  • @Adamaris_the_Witch
    @Adamaris_the_Witch 4 роки тому

    Hey, can you make a video in how to make Manga/ Comic covers with some tips as well...that whould be kinda helpfull

  • @محمدالحورانييوسفقشطهقشطة

    Hey guys when I see the videos in this channel I am really confusing there are many videos and many lists of videos how should I begin watching those videos ? I hope someone that tells me .

  • @superlynx98
    @superlynx98 4 роки тому

    The intro music sounds so much like Moments In Love, you a fan of Art Of Noise, Mark? 😃

  • @batjoke777
    @batjoke777 4 роки тому +1

    Tip number 1: *EXIST*
    One Piece: *Sight*

  • @Clips_I_Guess
    @Clips_I_Guess 4 роки тому

    First thing I thought of when reading #10 is how many sports animes I've enjoyed...and I don't care for the sports at all.
    Baby steps and Ace of Diamond are two that stick out in this regard. It's weird how great story-tellers can make any type of story interesting...weird in a good way, of course.

  • @geminiflameking7384
    @geminiflameking7384 4 роки тому +1

    in my manga/comic that i make on my channel, i try to make each chapter 60+ panels long.

  • @ramizshould
    @ramizshould 4 роки тому

    Awesome video

  • @MrPokemon248
    @MrPokemon248 4 роки тому

    For the length of a story follow the experts. A normal comic is 22 pages 11 double sided. A complete story is 6 issues put into one paperback.

  • @DezzieYT
    @DezzieYT 4 роки тому

    I tend to write short stories because I find I start to get "lost" as it gets longer. Though I've been writing a continuing series of short stories with the same characters / setting for two years... Not sure that qualifies as "short stories" anymore. Chapters?

  • @elation00
    @elation00 4 роки тому

    I wonder if I should make clear what the world setting is in the first chapter or in the first volume gradually and then some backgrounds for the characters, for the world...

    • @elation00
      @elation00 4 роки тому

      actually nvm I think I got an idea

  • @HIDDENWORLDS00
    @HIDDENWORLDS00 4 роки тому

    Okay I got a question
    You said certain things need to be cut if it's not important to the overall narrative but what if it's a scene that doesn't necessarily diver the current plot forward but the overall effects of the scene is to leave an open thread for something important in later chapter's?

    • @rachellynncreates2703
      @rachellynncreates2703 4 роки тому

      Kaivon saddler then that would be necessary. It’s necessary for the future of the plot.

  • @athanasiaskondra1222
    @athanasiaskondra1222 4 роки тому

    a small critique for your intros: either make the intro longer before you start speaking of make the tune shorter. It kinda bugs me when the tune continues for a good few seconds after you started talking. it feels like you fight the music. i believe you can reach a balance of intro and music.
    on a more cheery tone, why not make a side character for Captain Indicate? Like his battler, Old Man TimeLapse. you know, to be the Alfred to C.I's Bruce.
    Also, another video i would like to see is hair underwater. I really struggle finding reference for this.

  • @squirrelsavage1600
    @squirrelsavage1600 4 роки тому

    I know this has nothing to do with the video but do copic markers work with Bristol paper and do not bleed through?

  • @Cartoonkal
    @Cartoonkal 4 роки тому +1

    Will Brody's Ghost be back in print any time soon? I've been trying to get the collected edition but I don't want a kindle version, nor do I want to spend 40+ dollars on a paperback from a 3rd party seller. Thanks in advance.

  • @swingtop632
    @swingtop632 4 роки тому

    Hi, for the manga book (first one) is it necessary to have prior knowledge or experience about drawing before starting it? And about drawing human anatomy as well? Or will the book teach how to draw anatomy?

  • @mitsubas-swagger-soda
    @mitsubas-swagger-soda 4 роки тому

    I have a question markcrilley
    Do I draw one of my book pages full page? And do the pubishers put the pages together or not😊?

  • @dinosar9230
    @dinosar9230 4 роки тому

    Is it a good idea to draw on both sides of the papper for a comic?

  • @demonkingtengoku9034
    @demonkingtengoku9034 4 роки тому

    @markcrilley could you make your next video about how to color the sky I'm struggling with this aspect as well as making the coloring look smooth an natural with prismacolored pencils anything would help me

  • @AlchemistsCookbook
    @AlchemistsCookbook 4 роки тому

    You should really read Aristotle's "Poetics", it's the gospel of storytelling.

  • @OpalKaboi
    @OpalKaboi 4 роки тому

    I'm doing it. I have Spring break to get my stuff together and work on one of my bazillion characters. I'll start a scene from my childhood and find a way to kill my dad so it fits my character. Thanks Mark!

  • @artloveranimation
    @artloveranimation 4 роки тому

    I know you made a video forever ago about story ideas, but I am struggling with deciding on a plot. I can create characters but I am nervous about making goals too cliche

    • @DarkoFoxfire
      @DarkoFoxfire 4 роки тому

      ArtLover Animation It’s not about if a story is cliche or not but about the execution of it! The story might have things we seen many times before but if your characters and writing is strong then it makes it work very well!

  • @capitanstoodeows8123
    @capitanstoodeows8123 3 роки тому

    Remove unnecessary plot points
    Bleach: imma pretend I didn’t hear that

  • @AznPwnK4i
    @AznPwnK4i 4 роки тому

    Hey, Mark. When you sell your books on Amazon, are they sold directly by you or by a publishing company?

  • @dylansearcy3966
    @dylansearcy3966 4 роки тому

    I'm kinda disappointed that you didnt do a tribute for Kobe Bryant

  • @qwekunash2
    @qwekunash2 4 роки тому +2

    For once am also early❤😎

  • @quiettornado1970
    @quiettornado1970 4 роки тому

    Most of my old story I have in storage, are all just story idea jotted down. It is not really a story type story.

  • @brokenredflag
    @brokenredflag 4 роки тому

    Very helpfull 0o0

  • @supersuave246
    @supersuave246 4 роки тому

    I have your book lol

  • @TreyPDB
    @TreyPDB 4 роки тому

    Oda: 2500 chapters

  • @andrewgarfield9898
    @andrewgarfield9898 4 роки тому

    Watching this as if I’ll ever get past the first chapter lol.

  • @Bloodray19
    @Bloodray19 4 роки тому +1

    If your name is Tolkien, you can just ignore this viddo

  • @dissonanceparadiddle
    @dissonanceparadiddle 4 роки тому

    If a scene has no purpose it is a waste

  • @derpyman4480
    @derpyman4480 4 роки тому

    Cheese

  • @thelostlegendnoe4502
    @thelostlegendnoe4502 4 роки тому

    First

  • @LJTILL
    @LJTILL 4 роки тому

    early